Open thread: Super Tuesday results! Update: McCain wins New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois; Update: McCain 36, Romney 36 in … Arizona? Update: Hillary wins Massachusetts, New Jersey; Update: Maverick takes Arizona; Update: Hillary wins Missouri
posted at 6:15 pm on February 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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We’ll stay with this thread as long as we can. Georgia closes at 7 p.m.; if there’s a late conservative surge towards Mitt, presumably it’ll show up there first. Missouri, which is winner take all, checks in at 8 p.m. After that, it’s a long hard slog until California at 11.
Have I mentioned yet that it would be worth your while to cross over and vote for Hillary? I think I have, but in case you missed it, vote Hillary.
Exit polls as soon as I get them. Stand by.
Update: As of 6 p.m., Megyn Kelly says on Fox that Huck earns 33% of the half or so of GOP voters who voted today who call themselves evangelicals. Mitt leads among immigration voters, with 48%, but McCain leads among economy voters and Iraq voters.
Update: Mitt wins Missouri — but McCain wins California?
Update: Obama leads among black voters, 44-17, and trails among whites only 50-44. Among white women, he trails only 57-44. She’s in trouble, although she does lead big among Latinos.
Update: CNN should have Georgia results at 7 and other states at 8.
Update: “Obama large in exit polls,” says Drudge. Start praying.
Update: Via Drudge, brutal.
OBAMA: Alabama: Obama 60, Clinton 37… Arizona: Obama 51, Clinton 45… Connecticut: Obama 53, Clinton 45… Delaware: Obama 56, Clinton 42… Georgia: Obama 75, Clinton 26… Illinois: Obama 70, Clinton 30… Massachusetts: Obama 50, Clinton 48… Missouri: Obama 50, Clinton 46… New Jersey: Obama 53, Clinton 47…
CLINTON: Arkansas: Clinton 72, Obama 26… California: Clinton 50, Obama 47… New York: Clinton 56, Obama 43… Oklahoma: Clinton 61, Obama 31… Tennessee: Clinton 52, Obama 41…
Update: Obama wins Georgia on the strength of blacks. GOP is too close to call.
Update: Good lord — 86-13 for Obama.
Update: The exit polls give Huck a six-point lead among women in Georgia. It’s a proportional state, so each candidate will take about a third of the delegates.
Update: McCain wins New Jersey, Illinois, and Connecticut, as expected. Huck steals Alabama. Mitt wins Massachusettes. Hillary wins Oklahoma and Obama takes his home state of Illinois.
Megyn Kelly says Obama wins among whites(!) in Connecticut and Hispanics in Illinois, 51-47. Huckabee’s killing Romney among evangelicals in Georgia.
Hillary wins Tennessee.
Update: Wow indeed: Maverick’s home state is in play?
Update: Romney’s running a fairly distant third in Georgia right now, 37-33-25 with Huck in the lead. If Huck holds on, this makes three wins for him already: Georgia, West Virginia, and Alabama, which McCain was supposed to win.
Update: Rove is on FNC right now calling McCain’s decision to campaign in a lost cause like Massachusetts a huge mistake. Georgia was the early prize, not Mitt’s backyard.
Update: Good lord. As of 9 p.m., Fox still can’t call Arizona for Maverick yet. The Glacier wins New York and, whew, Massachusetts too, negating the Waffles/Teddy effect. But Obama wins Delaware and is in position to steal Connecticut.
Update: Whew. Hillary holds onto New Jersey.
Update: No surprise — Maverick takes New York’s winner-take-all delegates. As for Massachusetts, Hillary wins among women 57-40; in Delaware, Obama wins 90% of the black vote.
Update: Dean Barnett e-mails to say Hillary is doing better than the exit polls predicted — and Mitt’s doing worse. The only state McCain’s lost so far that he hoped to carry was Alabama. If Hillary sneaks out of California with a win, it’s a good night for her. 90 minutes until the polls close.
Update: Obama locks up Alabama. Meanwhile, Huck’s on the brink of taking WTA Missouri while McCain leads in Tennessee and it’s a dogfight between Maverick and Huck in Oklahoma. Where’s Romney? The only state he’s won thus far is Massachusetts.
Update: MM notes that McCain’s in trouble in a number of states he was supposed to win: Missouri, Georgia, Arizona, and Alabama (which he’s already supposedly lost). True enough — but it’s Huckabee, not Mitt, who’s knocking him off.
Update: Maverick knocks off Huckabee in Oklahoma. Still no big wins for Mitt.
Update: Mitt wins Utah, as expected. So does Obama.
Update: Damn. Obama takes Connecticut from Hillary.
Update: Mitt takes the North Dakota caucuses. Obama takes the Minnesota caucuses.
Update: Took him long enough but McCain came through in his home state. Arizona goes to Maverick, winner take all.
Update: Drudge says Mitt takes Minnesota, Colorado, and Montana. That’s super, but McCain’s swept all the winner-take-all states and is poised to take Missouri too. If Romney doesn’t take California, this is a disappointment.
Update: Atta girl. The Glacier sneaks through in Missouri. But does she trail in the delegate count?
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Hardly ironic, or an obstacle. McCain/Huckabee has been a probability for the general ever since Iowa. Between them they have powerful support in the South, while offering a strong challenge in Democratic strongholds. The biggest loser from tonight looks like being Romney, unless he can turn things around by taking Arizona and California.
Pax americana on February 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Nope. Sadly you’re not.
blankminde on February 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Is it the fact that he shouts “Lord, Lord! Have I not done great things for you? Have I not prophesied in your name?” or the fact he completely ignores the commandment against bearing false witness? (a trait he shares with McCain)
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Huck does crack me up! >:}
He has a wicked sense of humor.
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Anybody but McVain! ANYBODY!
livermush on February 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM
No, but you’re welcome to wander the Superstition Mtns. if you like. I don’t advise it though - last hike of my friend there totally stepped right on a Western Diamondback and stunned it so, he just kept walking not to dwell on the stupidity that occured.
SkinnerVic on February 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM
@ Pax americana on February 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM
A McCain/Huckabee ticket means I have 2 reasons not to vote republican this fall.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM
I also Like Rudy’s sense of Humor also. >:}
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM
I just thought of another reason why Huck did well in Georgia. Neal Boortz endorsed him because of the Fair Tax. I wonder how many votes he got from that.
Buy Danish on February 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Was Ryan forced out or did he bow out to avoid embarassment?
billy on February 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM
i really, really dislike what the GOP has become. Second look at a new conservative party?
therightwinger on February 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I can see why people like Huckabee, especially if they only nominally pay attention to the issues. He’s personable, he sounds good on the stump, and he says a lot of family value stuff that plays well in the South. And the South has a long history of populism. I know y’all don’t like his Bible talk, but most people down here do and think it is refreshing that a candidate speaks openly about his faith.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM
muyoso,
I chose the words “personally verify” carefully. If you can do this with evolution science, I’ll grant you a superior position to the huckster. Until then, do your best to steer clear of bigotry lest you be compared to Huck.
ConstantSorrow on February 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I believe this is the first time I have ever agreed with you.
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I know this is off topic, but Huckabee isnt a bad looking guy. How freaking drunk was he when he decided to marry that . . . THING.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Ya know, I felt more secure in this country when we were living under the threat of Soviet Bombs.
Speaking of, I think I’m going to play Red Alert 2 again for a while.
- The Cat
MirCat on February 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM
@ BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Oh you agree with me all the time. That is like the 4th time you have said that exact same line. LOL
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM
[BacaDog on February 5, 2008 at 10:10 PM]
I don’t know about that. I think Huck could out vain McVain and think he can take it all the way to the convention. If Romney stays in, that would put him as the spoiler. Now having both McCain and Huck trying to do a deal with Romney would be ironic.
Dusty on February 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Democratic Wave is hitting as Democrats well outpaced Republicans in votes in all but Alabama and Georgia, and these two were just barely on the Republican side. Some place 3-1 for the Dems.
WoosterOh on February 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Well, clearly, but I have extensive experience posting stuff on the intarnets. For instance, I’m going to take a shot in th dark and predict that the text you have loaded and ready to fire off goes something like, “STFU NOOB”.
Hiney Von Pewps on February 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Remember that he’s lost a ton of weight recently.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM
FTFY
blankminde on February 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Now now muyoso, why must you be so harsh on Huckabee’s wife? Huck himself isn’t that bad looking, although I admit she could have done better :-D.
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Huckabee seems like an awesome guy to have a beer with. Just not be POTUS.
BlackCapitalist on February 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM
How about just a first look at rebuilding the conservative movement after the November bloodbath we have coming?
billy on February 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Yeah, let’s start a 3rd party. This is just depressing. I hate that if I vote, it’s for someone I can’t stand less than the other.
Geronimo on February 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM
I like the spin by the media (a la New Hampshire), Hillary outperforming exit poll expectations. Interesting spin since she was winning every state but Illinois and Georgia up to yesterday’s polling(except for the weird anomaly that is CA). The only thing they polling averages showed was that Obama was closing the gap considerably but the polling averages did not have him winning.
As for McCain and Huchkabee…lol…to funny. I bet Mc Vain is cursing and foaming a the mouth “I helped him out and he repays me like this”…classic. And ole’ Huckabee is now going to get as big an ego as McVain. Where’s my popcorn :-)
TOPV on February 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM
@ TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Oh jesus, I forgot about that. You just jogged my memory of a photo I saw of him. I get it now. Damn, he should have bought twice the Trimspa when he was at GNC.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Unless America is somewhere in Asia, I don’t think we are still the most knowledgeable in science, at least among high school students.
dedalus on February 5, 2008 at 10:21 PM
So can we now call it for McCain…. reluctantly….
Kini on February 5, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Here’s his family portrait from earlier on.
amerpundit on February 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Haley Barbour: “None of these guys are as conservative as I am.”
Tell me about it, Governor.
fiatboomer on February 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM
gotta go, tornado in nashville…gulp
ConstantSorrow on February 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Dude,
I’m no Huckster fan, but going after the wife’s looks is a little low. Candidates are fair game, but dude?
jwp1964 on February 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM
If you want to divide the country into quarters, very well then. Blah blah blah.
It’s not up to me or you to define the Northeast. It is what it is and it’s incredibly irritating that you can’t just accept the facts and move on.
Buy Danish on February 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM
good luck
bnelson44 on February 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I agree.
EnochCain on February 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I liked that remark, too.
What conservative leaders do we have waiting in the wings??
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Yikes!…early spring in TX too….run, dude, run!
Limerick on February 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Good luck and God bless.
amerpundit on February 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Don’t forget Pelosi lurking in the wings. I’ll bet she’s already got average longevity stats on guys who have lost a hundred lbs and still brag about eating fried squirrel and fried chicken skin. I’ll also bet she’ll send Huck a box of chocolates and pork rinds for Valentines Day.
a capella on February 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Thar’ be trollin’ in these waters.
Weebork on February 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
@ jwp1964 on February 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Nobody isnt fair game. Its not like people dont say anything about Bill Clinton when HIllary is running, or vice versa. Calm down and block your eyes from the TV whenever you hear Huck speaking, a little trick i figured out.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
30 minutes and the big enchilada closes its polls
bnelson44 on February 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Yeah, good luck in Nashville.
Geronimo on February 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Battle lost Ready to move on to the Conservative Party!
ihasurnominashun on February 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Some folks have been working that out for some time. Interesting ideas I suppose. Let’s see if there’s a country to try them out on?
blankminde on February 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Stay safe.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Arrr! Ye thinks, matey??
fiatboomer on February 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Romney’s crowd looks very enthusiastic while Wendall pronounces their doom!
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Yeah, Romney’s not giving in. Kickass
Geronimo on February 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Hopefully the Republicans win back the House and “Madame Speaker Pelosi” will be dropped back into the garbage bin of ineffectual, useless leaders whose only footnotes in the history book were how horribly wrong they were.
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Obama wins Minnesota.
amerpundit on February 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM
It turns out a lot of states are just as dumb, if not dumber than Iowa. Who would have thought? I think we can all agree that No Child Left Behind has been a huge, failure. I’m a big fan of home schooling, but it appears that home schooling is in peril too as it supposedly goes to Huckabee. Also it doesn’t help much to the level that Talk Radio has dumbed down their rhetoric. I also think that the Blue Collar Comedy Tour type stuff is gangsta rap for white people. It glorifies stupidity and has effects on certain demographics that don’t need encouragement. When you drift away from reason these are the results you get. The electorate is irrational. Is McCain still getting the anti-war vote?
LevStrauss on February 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I agree.
As far as Huckabee goes, could I vote for him? I’d have to pray about that (pun intented).
If its McCain, I’m voting PRESENT.
Darnell Clayton on February 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Remember all that stuff about how Arkansas republicans supposedly hate Huckabee? It doesn’t look like it to me.
No, I am not a Huckabee supporter.
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Forced out. By Hastert, no less.
Hiney Von Pewps on February 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM
I think if McCain or Hillary/Obama wins in ‘08, we’re in terrible trouble if there’s still a Democratic congress.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Well, someone could come out of nowhere like Messiah did. On the other hand, we don’t have willing accomplices in the MSM.
fiatboomer on February 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM
@ BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I may be wrong, but arent voters usually driven to the polls by a strong republican presidential nominee, and THEN vote for congressional races? I dont think people will really show up just to vote for congressional races.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM
I’ve been trying to put that to words for years. Bravo. Didn’t Jay Leno ask people really simple questions in parking lots and 90% of them were clueless? Say hello to the electorate.
blankminde on February 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM
The Dems look smart tonight, and I never thought I’d say that.
They have a two pony race, we have a 4-way one.
Huckabee is so unbelievable too; he actually THINKS we believe his shtick that he’ll be the GOP nominee. He delivered it with a smirk… not very convincing.
I find it interesting that McCain isn’t really getting more than a third in most states. Hardly a big consensus, hardly resounding.
linlithgow on February 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM
That is the only way conservative views will survive. It won’t be done by trying to redo the GOP. The establishment is well entrenched, and with no term limits the incumbent fossils will stay on forever. It just isn’t going to be changed back.
a capella on February 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM
My sense of the homeschoolers is not that they are block voting for Huckabee. He certainly has his supporters, but we aren’t a monolith. We’re not even all conservative/Republican.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM
It is up to me. My opinion is the only one that matters.
So there…. (raspberry’s)
Kini on February 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM
The Arkansas Republican insiders hated Huck, not the voters.
WoosterOh on February 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Well that worked out pretty good didn’t it?
The GOP-RBI
grand old party, run by idiots.
billy on February 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Bobby Jindal in LA who just became governor there. He’s the man to watch. It’s too bad it’s not the future already.
INC on February 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM
There goes his grandchildren’s college education.
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM
North Dakota goes to Romney.
amerpundit on February 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I’ve been gone since page 2 of this thread- any Romniac online suicides yet? Or are the Romney supporters still holding out an almost irrational hope that makes us former Fredheads look like we were calm and subdued when he was in?
Hollowpoint on February 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Not going to happen in 08. Repubs have nothing to get excited about with a McCain ticket. Repubs will lose many more seats and dems may even reach a filibuster and veto proof majority. It is going to be ugly. Remember that many of us conservatives will be sitting this one out.
jwp1964 on February 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Then that would make the conservative movement stupid.
Even if you leave the President blank, we should be encouraging every single conservative to go out on election day and vote in conservatives. Screw McCain, write in Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney, or Daffy Duck if you want, but MAKE SURE you vote for a Republican congress. That should be our message all election long.
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Whoa. I’m afraid Mitt is finished.
Baphomet on February 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
As we keep Steele in the cold locker.
Limerick on February 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Looks like Romney is taking Minnesota, North Dakota, Montana, and Arizona.
Onto California!
Enoxo on February 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Bob Riley, the governor of AL is a good guy. He would be a better choice for a McCain veep than Huckabee.
Really, Huckabee would be OK as secretary of ? Perhaps he could run the faith based charity effort?
My fave would be if McCain chose Giuliani for veep LOL just to watch Ann Coulter lose her mind completely
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Illinois
1,145,000 Dem voters
270,000 Rep voters
WoosterOh on February 5, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Hollowpoint Hey, Romney won Utah, Montana, and North Dakota
The frozen tundra candidate
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 10:32 PM
@ BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
That is a fine message, but it wont work.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Go Mitt!
fourstringfuror on February 5, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Mitt vows to go on! MITT MITT MITT MITT MITT MITT
SouthernGent on February 5, 2008 at 10:33 PM
How is Mitt going to spin this into a positive?
I do like the crack that that is the entire Republican state leg. behind him.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Clearly Romney needed to live in more states.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Sorry, context of my McCain/Giuliani remark: Coulter said back in Feb. 2007 that she would support Hillary instead of Giuliani, or said that Giuliani wouldn’t get her vote against Hillary or something.
So she jumped the shark on Giuli a year before doing so on McCain.
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Too bad Mitt didn’t live in more states.
dedalus on February 5, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Looks like Romney is taking Minnesota, North Dakota, Montana, and Arizona.
Onto California!
Enoxo on February 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
greekinfidel on February 5, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Pinch, poke . . .
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Mitt isn’t taking Arizona..
EXIT POLLS: Arizona
Male(54%) McCain 45% Romney 37%
Female(46%) McCain 42% Romney 38%
—————-
Currently
McCain 51%
Romney 29%
19%
reporting
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:35 PM
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Brilliant!! THE only reason for us to vote this cycle.
jerrytbg on February 5, 2008 at 10:36 PM
I heard a rumor the other day about Mark Sanford, SC’s Gov, a possible VP choice for McCain.
SCGOPgirl on February 5, 2008 at 10:36 PM
We’re only 24 years removed from Reagan winning 49 states(and #50 was a sqeaker) on an overtly conservative agenda. We need to start building the conservative movement, not the republican party, from the ground up.
Republicans have been trying to live off Reagan’s
legacy for too long.
billy on February 5, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Looks like Mitt is slowly closing the gap in Missouri via the Kansas City suburbs…Any Missourians/Missourites able to clarify?
SouthernGent on February 5, 2008 at 10:36 PM
I really do like Mitt. I could absolutely listen to him give presidential speeches for 4 years.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:36 PM
They should Call Arizona for McCain soon.
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Too soon to call MN- big difference politically here between the outstate, suburban and urban areas- McCain was favored here. Arizona will be close, but McCain is favored there as well. ND and MT? They have what, a half a delegate between them?
Hollowpoint on February 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I hope Mitt pulls this through,I just got home,
whats the score!
canopfor on February 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Was that a little hunk of fried squirrel on Huck’s lip?
Or just a bit of the usual b.s. he spews?
Can’t anyone spell gullible in the Southern states?
Or even duped?
Huck is as much a preacher as McCain is a straight talker.
It’s like a bad old Second City TV skit come through the screen.
The hectoring, hoary “hero” and the reprobate, retrograde Reverend.
John Candy and Andy Kaufman are dead and these two sleazels live?
Nooooooooo!!!!!!
profitsbeard on February 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM
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