Open thread: Super Tuesday results! Update: McCain wins New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois; Update: McCain 36, Romney 36 in … Arizona? Update: Hillary wins Massachusetts, New Jersey; Update: Maverick takes Arizona; Update: Hillary wins Missouri
posted at 6:15 pm on February 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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We’ll stay with this thread as long as we can. Georgia closes at 7 p.m.; if there’s a late conservative surge towards Mitt, presumably it’ll show up there first. Missouri, which is winner take all, checks in at 8 p.m. After that, it’s a long hard slog until California at 11.
Have I mentioned yet that it would be worth your while to cross over and vote for Hillary? I think I have, but in case you missed it, vote Hillary.
Exit polls as soon as I get them. Stand by.
Update: As of 6 p.m., Megyn Kelly says on Fox that Huck earns 33% of the half or so of GOP voters who voted today who call themselves evangelicals. Mitt leads among immigration voters, with 48%, but McCain leads among economy voters and Iraq voters.
Update: Mitt wins Missouri — but McCain wins California?
Update: Obama leads among black voters, 44-17, and trails among whites only 50-44. Among white women, he trails only 57-44. She’s in trouble, although she does lead big among Latinos.
Update: CNN should have Georgia results at 7 and other states at 8.
Update: “Obama large in exit polls,” says Drudge. Start praying.
Update: Via Drudge, brutal.
OBAMA: Alabama: Obama 60, Clinton 37… Arizona: Obama 51, Clinton 45… Connecticut: Obama 53, Clinton 45… Delaware: Obama 56, Clinton 42… Georgia: Obama 75, Clinton 26… Illinois: Obama 70, Clinton 30… Massachusetts: Obama 50, Clinton 48… Missouri: Obama 50, Clinton 46… New Jersey: Obama 53, Clinton 47…
CLINTON: Arkansas: Clinton 72, Obama 26… California: Clinton 50, Obama 47… New York: Clinton 56, Obama 43… Oklahoma: Clinton 61, Obama 31… Tennessee: Clinton 52, Obama 41…
Update: Obama wins Georgia on the strength of blacks. GOP is too close to call.
Update: Good lord — 86-13 for Obama.
Update: The exit polls give Huck a six-point lead among women in Georgia. It’s a proportional state, so each candidate will take about a third of the delegates.
Update: McCain wins New Jersey, Illinois, and Connecticut, as expected. Huck steals Alabama. Mitt wins Massachusettes. Hillary wins Oklahoma and Obama takes his home state of Illinois.
Megyn Kelly says Obama wins among whites(!) in Connecticut and Hispanics in Illinois, 51-47. Huckabee’s killing Romney among evangelicals in Georgia.
Hillary wins Tennessee.
Update: Wow indeed: Maverick’s home state is in play?
Update: Romney’s running a fairly distant third in Georgia right now, 37-33-25 with Huck in the lead. If Huck holds on, this makes three wins for him already: Georgia, West Virginia, and Alabama, which McCain was supposed to win.
Update: Rove is on FNC right now calling McCain’s decision to campaign in a lost cause like Massachusetts a huge mistake. Georgia was the early prize, not Mitt’s backyard.
Update: Good lord. As of 9 p.m., Fox still can’t call Arizona for Maverick yet. The Glacier wins New York and, whew, Massachusetts too, negating the Waffles/Teddy effect. But Obama wins Delaware and is in position to steal Connecticut.
Update: Whew. Hillary holds onto New Jersey.
Update: No surprise — Maverick takes New York’s winner-take-all delegates. As for Massachusetts, Hillary wins among women 57-40; in Delaware, Obama wins 90% of the black vote.
Update: Dean Barnett e-mails to say Hillary is doing better than the exit polls predicted — and Mitt’s doing worse. The only state McCain’s lost so far that he hoped to carry was Alabama. If Hillary sneaks out of California with a win, it’s a good night for her. 90 minutes until the polls close.
Update: Obama locks up Alabama. Meanwhile, Huck’s on the brink of taking WTA Missouri while McCain leads in Tennessee and it’s a dogfight between Maverick and Huck in Oklahoma. Where’s Romney? The only state he’s won thus far is Massachusetts.
Update: MM notes that McCain’s in trouble in a number of states he was supposed to win: Missouri, Georgia, Arizona, and Alabama (which he’s already supposedly lost). True enough — but it’s Huckabee, not Mitt, who’s knocking him off.
Update: Maverick knocks off Huckabee in Oklahoma. Still no big wins for Mitt.
Update: Mitt wins Utah, as expected. So does Obama.
Update: Damn. Obama takes Connecticut from Hillary.
Update: Mitt takes the North Dakota caucuses. Obama takes the Minnesota caucuses.
Update: Took him long enough but McCain came through in his home state. Arizona goes to Maverick, winner take all.
Update: Drudge says Mitt takes Minnesota, Colorado, and Montana. That’s super, but McCain’s swept all the winner-take-all states and is poised to take Missouri too. If Romney doesn’t take California, this is a disappointment.
Update: Atta girl. The Glacier sneaks through in Missouri. But does she trail in the delegate count?
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We have to MAKE it work, unfortunately.
Think about it:
If we stay home, not only will we get a RINO in the Whitehouse (or a Clinton, which isn’t much better,) but we will also have zero representation in congress. I, for one, will not stay home just because McCain is a lying, hopelessly flawed candidate. Even though my vote won’t matter in Massachusetts, I will still vote.
We need to, through HA, Michelle, Talk Radio, and every other conservative outlet emphasize the important of keeping the RINOs and the Dems in check. If we just stay home, McCain and the Democrats (I apologize for the redundancy) win.
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Watching Foxnews Bill Kristol is a smarmy SOB who needs a real man to slap his light in the loafers face
bill30097 on February 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM
No, you’re right. I can’t believe how many people I have to remind that there are other races that are very important and that they shouldn’t stay home.
sloopy on February 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM
So would you prefer to vote for HRC or Obama in Nov? Or are you old enough to vote?
fiatboomer on February 5, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Alaska Governor Sarah Palin
Louisiani Governor Bobby Jindall
Rep Mike Pence of Indiana
Former Lt. Governor of Maryland Michael Steele
Rep Jeff Flake of Arizona
American-Infidels.com on February 5, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Which is sad since conservatism is really about keeping the power close to home. We should be more concerned about local elections than anyone.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I`ve held my comments `til later this night, to see how things are shaking up. I wonder if it`ll be settled after tonight. If not, what happens next?
ThePrez on February 5, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Aye, ye matey! Who needs sharks when thar’ be trolls!
Weebork on February 5, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I have voted Straight Republican my whole life why would i vote for Democrat now?
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:40 PM
I tell you right now. The Republican party has definitely Left me behind.
p0s3r on February 5, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Grew up there, know nothing about their voting patterns now, except for the fact that they like Claire McCaskill, who is a good, conservative democrat and a decent person.
My folks retired out west. Dad’s for McCain, Mom voted for Hillary in the primary. She may listen to my husband by time for the general LOL
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 10:40 PM
This whole primary reminds me of early King Crimson. Noisy and experimental.
Coronagold on February 5, 2008 at 10:40 PM
@ BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Dont get me wrong, I agree with everything you are saying. It just wont work. People arent going to take time out of their day to go vote for just a congressional race. Look at the dropoff between congressional races and presidential races. The congressional races are just as important those years, but there is a massive dropoff. Its time to just come to terms with the idea that there will be a democratic president, and a giant majority for the dems in the house and senate.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:40 PM
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Don’t apologize, you’re right on target!! And it needs to be said over and over again!!!!!
jerrytbg on February 5, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Work on your Ulcer. Mines almost done.
Geronimo on February 5, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Tennessee goes to Huckabee. McCain apparently just wins his home state. Georgia goes to Huckabee, too.
amerpundit on February 5, 2008 at 10:41 PM
CNN Just called Arizona for McCain!
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:41 PM
‘Cause you’re a Dem troll!
fiatboomer on February 5, 2008 at 10:41 PM
How interesting that the exit polls don’t seem to be very reliable anymore. Why are they still used? Old habits?
Weebork on February 5, 2008 at 10:41 PM
@ Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Wait, dont you support McCain? How can you claim you vote straignt republican?
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:41 PM
He was able to win his home state that he’s been serving for decades? No way!
amerpundit on February 5, 2008 at 10:42 PM
What about, New York, New Jearsey, Illinois, Connecticut and Delaware?
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Ugh…that’s enough. Sleep tight conservatism. Its going to be a long year.
blankminde on February 5, 2008 at 10:42 PM
There is a lot to like about Flake. He’s a Mormon. Perhaps Mitt’s campaign will help him in the future.
dedalus on February 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
He has been a Republican longer than Romney!
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Yea, they seemed to have conflicting exit polls and it took forever for us to report real ballots. Sorry for the suspense. We are still cleaning up from the super bowl out here. Hope you all enjoyed the game!
bnelson44 on February 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Why do you ask? I’m reporting on the newest Fox News projections that came out while Mitt was speaking. We’ve known about the others ones for a while.
amerpundit on February 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
If you had been following this thread, you would know that Chakra is-
-33 years of age
-supports McCain for no discernable reason
-recently discovered he has a penis
-is as annoying as hell
billy on February 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
@ Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
You could have fooled me when looking at his ontheissues page. You know having an R next to your name doesnt make you a conservative.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Oh yea and Oklahoma!
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:40 PM
That’s a dfeatist attitude!
jerrytbg on February 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Oh DUH headquarters for the RLDS church is in Independence, MO. One of my best friend’s parents are super bigwigs in that church. Fabulous people.
RLDS runs a nursing school in KC, and a good hospital in Independence too. I would certainly expect Romney to do well there.
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Better take those capital gains before next summer ladies and gentlemen. High taxes and socialism are on the way. Better start getting those assets off-shore. Tax lawyers are going to have a good run!
jwp1964 on February 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Michael Steele may well be a player in the McCain administration, if there is one.
News2Use on February 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Scroll down to the bottom of the ontheissues page and look at the chart, McCain and Romney are the same.
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM
I tend not to dwell on bad news long enough for that stuff.
ThePrez on February 5, 2008 at 10:45 PM
We sure as heck did, thank you sir.
TheGoblinKing on February 5, 2008 at 10:45 PM
It seems like Huck is beating Romney, but actually Romney is a head, 1,400,000 to 1,300,000.
This was quick math with rounding up, counting Huck first.
1,850,000 for McCain
WoosterOh on February 5, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Ug - Hillary is fixin’ to speak. I’m going to have to mute the TV.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:45 PM
@ jerrytbg on February 5, 2008 at 10:44 PM
How could I not have a defeatist attitude? The F&#^$NG GOP didnt run a single conservative. How is it conservatives are supposed to win in a race with NOTHING but liberals?
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Well, this cycle, Huck took care of that. He peeled off a good share of the social conservatives, but actually, Bush pretty well screwed up the GOP coalition before these elections. I think Bush is a decent honest guy. But, he fragmented the coalition and the moderates won’t let it be rebuilt. I’m not going to keep throwing money and energy down a black pit with no return. This isn’t just aggravation over the night’s results talking. I’ve felt this way since Bush crossed over for the drug bill and No Child left Behind. It isn’t going to be changed back. The tent is too big.
a capella on February 5, 2008 at 10:46 PM
McCain takes Arizona by a good length.
Bad news for Romney - just CA left to prevent this being a bad night.
Pax americana on February 5, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Then I think we really need to reform conservatism. Quite frankly I’m GLAD there’s a dropoff.
Imagine, if we can increase the conservative vote in every single congressional election, we can elect more conservatives to office. If we’re the only ones that show up, then our candidates will be elected to office.
We really need to mobilize. This really is the “now or never” year.
You think Bush and Pelosi/Reid were bad? Imagine MCCAIN and a veto-proof dem majority!
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Dude, it’s going to be a long 8 years at least. The republican party maybe dead at the end of this mess.
jwp1964 on February 5, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Indeed. The point is this miserable doof has never spoke well of his boy Mav. All he does is attack people. If he likes McCain so much, why?
The answer is that this loathesome tool is a Dem stealth troll and always has been - period.
fiatboomer on February 5, 2008 at 10:47 PM
AZ is already in the McCain column as a win. Sorry. Not.
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 5, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Bye.
Wise Golden on February 5, 2008 at 10:47 PM
RLDS changed name to Community of Christ church.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_Christ
Community of Christ, known from 1872 to 2001 as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS), is an American-based Latter Day Saint denomination that claims as its mission “to proclaim Jesus Christ and promote communities of joy, hope, love, and peace,”[1] and reports approximately 250,000 members in 50 nations.
Community of Christ is part of the Latter Day Saint movement begun by Joseph Smith Jr. It also adheres to the Restorationism traditions. Although in some respects it is theologically innovative, it nevertheless considers itself congruent with mainline Protestant Christian attitudes.
Community of Christ follows a largely non-liturgical tradition based loosely on the revised common lectionary.[2] From its headquarters in Independence, Missouri, the church offers special focus on evangelism, peace and justice ministries, spirituality and wholeness, youth ministries and outreach ministries.[3] Church teachings emphasize that “all are called” as “persons of worth” to “share the peace of Christ.”
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 10:48 PM
@ BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:47 PM
What does a veto proof majority matter if McCain is president?
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Huckabee’s back on Fox with his populism.
amerpundit on February 5, 2008 at 10:48 PM
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I’m talking about congressial races.
jerrytbg on February 5, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Um, the GOP does not pick the candidates. Maybe there is not one willing to go through the conservative anal exam.
myamphibian on February 5, 2008 at 10:49 PM
* TOTAL DELEGATES
John McCain 383
Mitt Romney 135
Mike Huckabee 54
Ron Paul 6
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Come to think of it, it doesn’t look like anyone’s done the due dilligence on Judge Robert Schnider and who controls him. He was the one who unsealed the divorce records against an agreement between ryan and his wife.
his hot, hot wife.
Hiney Von Pewps on February 5, 2008 at 10:49 PM
@ jerrytbg on February 5, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Oh, then yea. I agree.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:49 PM
I totally agree.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:49 PM
“Honor” when talking about McCain and Huckabee…coming from Huckabee?
THERE.ARE.NO.WORDS.
SouthernGent on February 5, 2008 at 10:49 PM
The moderates won’t stay with the coalition? Good God, how many “moderates” have you heard squealing that they’re gonna take their ball and go home if their guy doesn’t win?
Puh-leeze
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 10:50 PM
McCain and Huckabee score big on Super Tuesday, leaving Romney in the dust and thereby virtually guaranteeing a McCain win. And you know who doesn’t benefit? John McCain.
/HH
Hollowpoint on February 5, 2008 at 10:50 PM
How could I not have a defeatist attitude? The F&#^$NG GOP didnt run a single conservative. How is it conservatives are supposed to win in a race with NOTHING but liberals?
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:46 PM
You must be deranged. McCain, Romney and Huckabee are moderate conservatives at worst; but Alan Keyes and Fred don’t fit the word liberal at ANY stretch. Apart from slinging names at Keyes, which is all some posters here seem to do at the GOP candidates, pray tell why you think he is not conservative enough for you?
Pax americana on February 5, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Because it means two things:
The Republicans will be unable to fillibuster.
On the rare occaision McCain remembers he’s a Republican, he can be overturned and overrun.
Add his willingness to bend over backwards for Democrat and media adulation, and we will have quite possibly the worst possible scenario in US history short of the Civil War.
BKennedy on February 5, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Do’nt forget Colorado…purple as it may be.
SouthernGent on February 5, 2008 at 10:51 PM
When I type fast I always screw it up!lol at myself!
jerrytbg on February 5, 2008 at 10:51 PM
OK, I thought Brit and Chris were funny about the lack of negative campaigning. It would be truly historic to have an American political campaign where no one slung a little mud.
TX Mom on February 5, 2008 at 10:51 PM
I’ve seen Mitt, Huck and Clinton talk. Has Bob Dole 2.0 spoken yet?
amerpundit on February 5, 2008 at 10:52 PM
California won’t go for Romney.
I know my peeps!
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 5, 2008 at 10:52 PM
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:49 PM
kool
jerrytbg on February 5, 2008 at 10:52 PM
@ Pax americana on February 5, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Alan Keyes isnt a serious candidate. He is a religious nutjob. Fred was a good candidate, but he ran a campaign like an idiot. The people left are not conservative.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Anytime!
bnelson44 on February 5, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I think the immigration debate gave the ultra right wingers a false sense of supreme relevance.
This must really be a shock.
myamphibian on February 5, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Did someone say peeps??
bnelson44 on February 5, 2008 at 10:55 PM
LOL. HH has become a parody of Baghdad Bob.
Pax americana on February 5, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Gulp…I could live with McCain/Hucakbee better than Shrillery. But then again Obama is soooooo unexperienced he might not get much done…..
CCRWM on February 5, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Im listening to Hillary and she is starting to make sense. OMG, has it come to the point where the republicans have gotten that bad?
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Hillary is on now. I much prefer listening to her over Huckster and McCain.
a capella on February 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM
You are correct sir. I feel a bit like the last of the dinosaurs must have felt. Apparently conservatism is dead.
jwp1964 on February 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM
McCain Wins So Far
Arizona(Today)
Connecticut(Today)
Delaware(Today)
Illinois(Today)
New Jersey(Today)
New York(Today)
Oklahoma(Today)
———
Florida
South Carolina
New Hampshire
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM
@ a capella on February 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM
OMG, its spreading.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 10:56 PM
bnelson44 on February 5, 2008 at 10:55 PM
I knew I was going to regret hitting that link!lol
jerrytbg on February 5, 2008 at 10:57 PM
I don’t.
phronesis on February 5, 2008 at 10:57 PM
yep.
How do you know? Have the polls even closed there yet?
malan89 on February 5, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Actually, I just typed it. I don’t say my comments out loud as I type them. Do you?
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 5, 2008 at 10:58 PM
And how does Flip-Romney score by coming in 3rd?
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Why haven’t they updates Romney’s totals? They seem to update McCain’s, Obama’s and Clinton’s, but not Romney’s yet. Still stuck at 93.
It’s interesting Clinton’s comments are prepared it appears, but just about everyone else can speak off the cuff some.
linlithgow on February 5, 2008 at 10:58 PM
I really hate McShamnesty’s supporters…a lot.
malan89 on February 5, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Jack M. on Ace of Spades does a good imitation of Hugh. This is beyond that, Hugh is becoming a parody of himself.
Complete7 on February 5, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Now that is a the definition of a troll.
Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:59 PM
The rebate of $600 will cover a Ruger SP101 .357 magnum with a 3″ - 4″ barrel and some ammo. Or, if one is so inclined, the new .327 magnum and some ammo.
Although I’ve already got one of the .357s in a 2″ barrel I’m getting at least one more in the 3″ - 4″ barrel … while I still can.
Bread and circuses are coming our way.
BowHuntingTexas on February 5, 2008 at 11:00 PM
@ Chakra Hammer on February 5, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Coming from king troll.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 11:00 PM
The more I listen to Hillary, the more resolved I am to support WHOEVER the Republican candidate is. It won’t be the first time I held my nose in the voting booth. ANYBODY but Hillary.
mogilla on February 5, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Is Joel Osteen writing speeches for her now?
LevStrauss on February 5, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Hillary….SHUT UP! i would vote for johnkerry over pants
custer on February 5, 2008 at 11:01 PM
@ BowHuntingTexas on February 5, 2008 at 11:00 PM
I am more of a fan of spending that money on a nice new Springfield XD45 or maybe a nice AK74 with a few thousand rounds of ammunition.
muyoso on February 5, 2008 at 11:01 PM
She seems full of hope and optimism. Promises change. Cheerful. Doesn’t wrap herself in a POW shirt as her main credential. What’s not to like?
a capella on February 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM
So, my donation to John McCain, should it go in honor of Ann Coulter or James Dobson.
And thanks to you two for not supporting somebody like Duncan Hunter or Fred! right out of the gate. You couldn’t be a positive force for somebody that most of us could feel excited about, but now we have to listen to you bitch. Lovely.
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM
custer, that might be a bridge too far LOL
funky chicken on February 5, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Your hatred has alot more effect on your own life than it does theirs. I’m just sayin..
myamphibian on February 5, 2008 at 11:03 PM
If Mitt doesn’t win big in CA, Geraghty asks the question on my mind:
I’m sure this is not what his supporters want to hear, but… why?
With the results Mitt got tonight, how much in donations will he get?
Of course a huge win in CA can off set all this.
bnelson44 on February 5, 2008 at 11:03 PM
going to get myself a gun and move to Alaska
custer on February 5, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I’d vote Joel over Hill.
mikeyboss on February 5, 2008 at 11:03 PM
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