Zogby: Mitt leads by eight in California?

posted at 9:34 am on February 4, 2008 by Allahpundit

Again, California isn’t winner-take-all whereas New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Arizona, where McCain has prohibitive leads, all are. But if you’re looking for something to keep Mitt in the race awhile longer, a win tomorrow in Disneyland might do it.

“Romney is widening his lead in California and has a really big advantage with conservatives,” Zogby said. “Romney winning California would give some Republicans pause when they look at McCain as the potential nominee.”

Romney said he would cut short a scheduled trip to Georgia and fly back to California on Monday for a last-minute campaign visit.

“People there are taking a real close look at the race and it looks like I’ve got a good shot there,” Romney told reporters.

Romney’s best shot in a winner-take-all state is Missouri, where’s he’s been inching closer but still trails Maverick by 5-10 points in most polls.

How to explain the tidal wave towards McCain? Ruffini reminds us that the Republican base of conservatives isn’t so vast that a slight lead among them for Mitt can’t offset a huge lead for Mac among moderates. But that only prompts the question of why Mitt’s lead even among the core is so marginal. Politico has the answer, although Karl had it before they did. It’s not about policy, it’s about character — or perceptions thereof:

In every state since New Hampshire where exit polls have asked voters what was more important, a candidate’s position on the issues or a candidate’s leadership and personal qualities, McCain has won among those who said that character mattered more than policy stances.

And he’s not just winning among voters motivated by strength of character – he’s blowing away the competition. With the exception of Michigan, he’s enjoyed a double-digit margin over his rivals among this subset. And even in Michigan, which he lost to Mitt Romney by nine points, McCain still outpaced the former Massachusetts governor by four points on the question of personal qualities versus leadership…

[His core supporters of older voters] are driven more by timeless principles of sacrifice and integrity than they are by hot-button social issues.

For these voters – and at times, it would seem, for the candidate himself – issues are almost beside the point when compared to the importance that personal qualities play in molding a potentially great president.

It’s duty, honor, and country, stupid.

The ironic punchline? It’s his character, not his policies, that’s alienated so many of his colleagues in the senate. Although of course not so terribly much that they won’t happily kiss ass if he’s the nominee. Exit question: If Kaus is right that McCain is the most dangerous candidate vis-a-vis amnesty on either side, won’t some of those senate grudges come in mighty handy in mobilizing opposition to him? That is to say, isn’t it Obama who’s the big threat on this issue, especially since he’ll be looking for a way to shore up Hispanic support ahead of 2012?

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Bull. National polls are a question of name recognition at this point – and unlike this board, most of the country hasn’t started paying attention yet. If Romney can win in Massachusetts he can win anywhere.

joncoltonis on February 4, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Uhh… Super Tuesday is tomorrow. You can’t open a newspaper or turn on the TV without hearing Romney’s name mentioned. If they haven’t started paying attention by now, they probably never will.

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM

amerpundit….Kerry approached McCain. McCain said no thank you, but I appreciate the offer.

McCain didn’t approach Kerry.

Don’t reinvent history, there is enough real stuff to disagree with McCain over.

funky chicken on February 4, 2008 at 10:57 AM

Not necessarily. The Hill reported that McCain’s campaign advisor and Ambassador to Democratopia, John Weaver, first approached the Dems because he was livid at G.W. Bush.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was close to leaving the Republican Party in 2001, weeks before then-Sen. Jim Jeffords (Vt.) famously announced his decision to become an Independent, according to former Democratic lawmakers who say they were involved in the discussions.

In interviews with The Hill this month, former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) and ex-Rep. Tom Downey (D-N.Y.) said there were nearly two months of talks with the maverick lawmaker following an approach by John Weaver, McCain’s chief political strategist.

Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 11:26 AM

I hate to bring anyones hopes down but this is a normal thing to see things tighten up at the last moment. “The neck and neck” horse race aspect tends to occur late to add some exceitment to the nomination.

Its a classic “second look” at everyone in the race. It narrows but usually the frontrunner pulls things out because the establishment falls in behind them. In the event that underdog does well enough to stay close the party elites step in to back the frontrunner to end the threat of a nomination dragging out. In fact that is why the primaries and caucuses were created to break all those brokered conventions.

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Please God, let somebody have a camera AND microphone near McCain at all times tomorrow night as the resuls are coming in.

EJDolbow on February 4, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Not necessarily. The Hill reported that McCain’s campaign advisor and Ambassador to Democratopia, John Weaver, first approached the Dems because he was livid at G.W. Bush.

Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP

Again that source is from DEMOCRATIC circles and isnt without it suspected spin. Remmeber in 2000 the dems were pretty ticked off at Bush for “Stealing” the eelction so a little rumourmongering by them certainly would be something they would do.

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 11:32 AM

John Weaver is going to be a very, very sad boy this week, I think. LOL

If nothing else comes of this election, I hope to hell that these gadfly aides up there in many GOP senator’s offices get a come to Jesus meeting with the boss.

McCain likes being elected in AZ. He would have been defeated if he’d jumped parties. He’s not stupid, ergo, he wasn’t ever serious about any of it.

And yeah, Weaver was royally POd at the way McCain was treated in 2000, as well he should have been. The shit that was flung at McCain was unbelievably horrible.

So Weaver went around shopping the party switch idea because his boss got treated like shit. McCain even met with Daschle to get his ego stroked by the opposite party after his own party treated him like shit. But in the end, he stayed GOP (see my 3rd paragraph).

funky chicken on February 4, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Hollowpoint–if you’re still here, a fun story for you. My husband has a large, devout Roman Catholic, college educated, staunchly pro-life family up there in Minnesota. They all plan to vote for Al Franken because moderate/liberal Norm Coleman doesn’t care enough about “the children” or “the poor.”

The husband and I just laugh about it, but it is a puzzlement.

funky chicken on February 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM

And yeah, Weaver was royally POd at the way McCain was treated in 2000, as well he should have been. The shit that was flung at McCain was unbelievably horrible.

Ah, but its okay when McShamnesty does it now…

So Weaver went around shopping the party switch idea because his boss got treated like shit. McCain even met with Daschle to get his ego stroked by the opposite party after his own party treated him like shit. But in the end, he stayed GOP (see my 3rd paragraph).

funky chicken on February 4, 2008 at 11:32 AM

So, either its that McCain is so fragile that he needs his ego stroked, or he’s willing to lie with the enemy (and betraying his so-called conservative principles) to seek revenge against conservatives. I’m sorry, I don’t see how either is a selling point in choosing him as a president.

Darksean on February 4, 2008 at 11:37 AM

The Wall Street Journal (which loves illegal immigration) is supporting McCain.

The New York Times supports McCain.

Doesn’t this mean something to the McCain fans?

profitsbeard on February 4, 2008 at 11:39 AM

The ironic punchline? It’s his character, not his policies, that’s alienated so many of his colleagues in the senate.

From the linked article:

“I forgive him for whatever disagreements he has had with me. We can disagree on things, but I have great admiration for him,” said Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), a senior member of the Appropriations Committee who has often argued with McCain over government spending.

Dash on February 4, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Uhh… Super Tuesday is tomorrow. You can’t open a newspaper or turn on the TV without hearing Romney’s name mentioned. If they haven’t started paying attention by now, they probably never will.

Really? Whenever I turn on the TV, all they talk about is Obama and Hillary. Sometimes they mention John McCain, and occasionally the will slip in something about Romney.

That being said, you are still comparing a primary to a national election. It’s apples and oranges. Anyone who thinks the polls in November are going to be the same as the polls in February is kidding themselves.

joncoltonis on February 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM

bnelson44

This is for you:

Romney For President Announces Massachusetts Republican Leadership Team.

I believe Mitt’s list is longer than Mac the Knife’s list.

Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 11:46 AM

You know what is my biggest indicator, some Obama douche with homemade signs (kinda like the Ron Paul varietal with lower quality) torn down my signs I put up on Saturday. It tells me I’m the enemy – I like that. Lots of mittmentum in the AZ!

If only someone would tell my hand sledge that my finger isn’t the enemy, I would be grateful (It’s Niiiice and purple, and not from hammering. It spun out of my hand putting it back in my ride.) I should post a photo!

SkinnerVic on February 4, 2008 at 11:46 AM

The Wall Street Journal (which loves illegal immigration) is supporting McCain.

The New York Times supports McCain.

Doesn’t this mean something to the McCain fans?

profitsbeard on February 4, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Stellar post!

Darksean on February 4, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Close Gitmo?

Support McCain?

profitsbeard on February 4, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Lots of mittmentum in the AZ!

OMG! If by some miricle Mitt could just squeeze out the slightest win in McLames home state……

kcd on February 4, 2008 at 11:55 AM

BTW the Wall Street Journal has backed McCain

Wall Street Journal: McCain And The Supreme Court

By Steven G. Calabresi and John O. McGinnis

The conservative movement has made enormous gains over the past three decades in restoring constitutional government. The Roberts Supreme Court shows every sign of building on these gains.

Accordingly, for judicial conservatives electability must be a paramount consideration. By all accounts, Mr. McCain is more electable than Mr. Romney. He runs ahead or even with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in the national polls, and actually leads the Democratic candidates in key swing states like Wisconsin. Mr. Romney trails well behind both Democratic candidates by double digits. The fundamental dynamic of this race points in Mr. McCain’s way as well. He appeals to independents, while Mr. Romney’s support is largely confined to Republicans.

With many more Republican senators up for re-election than Democrats, the nomination of Mr. Romney could easily lead to a Goldwater-like debacle, in which the GOP loses not only the White House but also its ability in practice to filibuster in the Senate. Thus, even if we believed that Mr. Romney’s judicial appointments were likely to be better than Mr. McCain’s — and we are not persuaded of that — we would find ourselves hard-pressed to support his candidacy, given that he is so much less likely to make any appointments at all.

In fact, there is no reason to believe that Mr. McCain will not make excellent appointments to the court. On judicial nominations, he has voted soundly in the past from Robert Bork in 1987 to Samuel Alito in 2006. His pro-life record also provides a surety that he will not appoint judicial activists.

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 12:01 PM

kcd on February 4, 2008 at 11:55 AM

You do know that Mac is loved in AZ and was re-elected with over 80% of the vote in the last election?

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 4, 2008 at 12:04 PM

That being said, you are still comparing a primary to a national election. It’s apples and oranges. Anyone who thinks the polls in November are going to be the same as the polls in February is kidding themselves.

joncoltonis on February 4, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Sure, the numbers will change over the course of the general election campaign- they always do, often dramatically. However to say that Romney doesn’t have name recognition amongst likely voters is a bit of a stretch this late in the game.

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 12:06 PM

In fact, there is no reason to believe that Mr. McCain will not make excellent appointments to the court. On judicial nominations, he has voted soundly in the past from Robert Bork in 1987 to Samuel Alito in 2006. His pro-life record also provides a surety that he will not appoint judicial activists.

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Aside from, you know, the “Alito wears his conservatism on his sleeve” comments and McCain’s willingness to “cross the aisle” on free speech, amnesty, and global warming.

BKennedy on February 4, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Hollowpoint–if you’re still here, a fun story for you. My husband has a large, devout Roman Catholic, college educated, staunchly pro-life family up there in Minnesota. They all plan to vote for Al Franken because moderate/liberal Norm Coleman doesn’t care enough about “the children” or “the poor.”

The husband and I just laugh about it, but it is a puzzlement.

funky chicken on February 4, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Yeah, it sounds strange… though being Catholic and pro-life doesn’t necessarily mean one is a Republican. A lot of devout Christians confuse beliefs in charity and sympathy for the poor with government welfare programs and such.

Voluntary giving and government largess with taxpayer money ain’t exactly the same thing, but some don’t see that.

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Can we have a predictions ? For these states tomorrow ?

Alabama – McCain
Arizona – McCain
Arkansas – Huck
California – McCain
Colorado – Mitt
Connecticut – McCain
Delaware – Mitt
Georgia – Huck
Idaho – Mitt
Illinois – McCain
Kansas – Huck
Massachusetts – Mitt
Missouri – McCain
Minnesota – McCain
New Jersey – McCain
New Mexico – McCain
New York – McCain
Oklahoma – McCain
Tennessee – McCain
Utah – Mitt

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 12:13 PM

“McCain is better than HillObama” = “McCain fan”

Just like
“Syphilis is better than HIV” = “Syphilis fan”

But it’s a religion with you people, the McCain hate. No amount of polite discussion or factual presentation will change your minds, just like no amount of polite explanation of Mormonism will change the minds of the loons who think Mormons are some kind of threat, or members of a dangerous cult, or whatever.

So enjoy the screeching folks. I’ve got stuff to do.

funky chicken on February 4, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Huck takes Kansas? Behold the KS GOP, the one that got Kathleen Sebilius elected. The ones who got evolution thrown out of the state science curriculum, among other “accomplishments” which led to having a lib dem gal with zero charisma being elected governor.

funky chicken on February 4, 2008 at 12:16 PM

I say Mitt wins CA, and the nomination, as the presidency

ConservativePartyNow on February 4, 2008 at 12:18 PM

ConservativePartyNow on February 4, 2008 at 12:18 PM

and then goes on to win King of the World and later becomes god of his own planet.

If you are going to fantasize, do it big!

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 4, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Well it certainly shows how busy people are quoting one story, from Bob Cusack.
*
Wasn’t it that handsome indignant man, whom last week chided McCain for not coming to Mitt to find out the true story? What was that brilliant line that dashing Mitt used “How is it that you are an expert on my position?” that all you Mitt-wits went ga-ga over.
*
And now…that wonderful line isn’t so wonderful. All Mitt has to do, is pick up the phone and ask McCain, rather then making how many quotes off one article? Just to make it seem like a stream of articles were written? But then there are the quotes from Daschle, a person so valued for his honesty and “unbias” candor.
Oh the irony, of caught in his own faux indignation…wonder where he learned that trick?

right2bright on February 4, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Can we have a predictions ? For these states tomorrow ?

Alabama – McCain
Arizona – McCain
Arkansas – Huck
California – McCain
Colorado – Mitt
Connecticut – McCain
Delaware – Mitt
Georgia – Huck
Idaho – Mitt
Illinois – McCain
Kansas – Huck
Massachusetts – Mitt
Missouri – McCain
Minnesota – McCain
New Jersey – McCain
New Mexico – McCain
New York – McCain
Oklahoma – McCain
Tennessee – McCain
Utah – Mitt

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 12:13 PM

What are you smoking. Here is what I think will pan out:
Can we have a predictions ? For these states tomorrow ?

Alabama – Mitt
Arizona – McCain
Arkansas – Mitt or McCain
California – Mitt 60%/McCain30%
Colorado – Mitt
Connecticut – McCain
Delaware – Mitt
Georgia – Huck
Idaho – Mitt
Illinois – McCain
Kansas – Mitt
Massachusetts – Mitt
Missouri – Mitt (MO has alot of people who have morals that compare more to MItt)
Minnesota – McCain
New Jersey – McCain
New Mexico – McCain
New York – McCain
Oklahoma – Mitt
Tennessee – Fred(I still thinks he wins this from his home state)
Utah – Mitt

ConservativePartyNow on February 4, 2008 at 12:23 PM

You do know that Mac is loved in AZ and was re-elected with over 80% of the vote in the last election?

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 4, 2008 at 12:04 PM

You would never know the love from talk radio here in Tucson this morning. People here HATE McCain on multiple levels, and that is translating directly to favor Romney. 20+ People out on one of the busiest corners Saturday said they had TONS of positive honks, and some finger salutes.

After Tancredo endorsed him, Sierra Vista (big Army community) and the whole SE Cochise county rallied around Mitt because they are tired of the illegals trash, crime on their porch. That coupled with Sheriff Joe in Phoenix shilling for Mitt, and you have a big combo that may make AZ closer than you would think.

SkinnerVic on February 4, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Can we have a predictions ? For these states tomorrow ?

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Keep in mind that some states (New York) are winner take all, others (California) are divided propotionally. Thus a “win” in some states is worth a lot more than a narrow win in others. Calculating delegates won tomorrow would take a state by state count- too ambitious for my slightly hungover post Super Bowl brain.

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Wait, Romneys website…21 references to stories (about McCain going to the Dems), but only one print story with 17 quotes from the one story.
And 2 of the other 4 quoting Kerry…HAHAAHAAH, Mitt cracks me up, nobody would buy that…but wait there’s more…
He has fooled more than a few with that list…There is no end to Mitt-wits loyalty, none…why they would give up their first born to him.

right2bright on February 4, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Keep in mind that some states (New York) are winner take all, others (California) are divided propotionally. Thus a “win” in some states is worth a lot more than a narrow win in others. Calculating delegates won tomorrow would take a state by state count- too ambitious for my slightly hungover post Super Bowl brain.

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Which is why predicting who will win the state has some validity.

BTW I guess the press is trying their best to remain noncomittal

2 articles on Yahoo right now

Romney’s economic claims challenged
AP – Mon Feb 4, 6:23 AM ET

BOSTON – It’s part of Mitt Romney’s core narrative: Massachusetts, in the throes of a fiscal freefall, fell back on his CEO skills and turnaround wizardry to spark — in his words — “a dramatic reversal of state fortunes and a period of sustained economic expansion.”

McCain already sounds like GOP nominee
AP – Mon Feb 4, 4:28 AM ET

ATLANTA – To hear John McCain talk, you’d think he already was the Republican nominee. “The first thing we’ve got to do after Tuesday is unite this party,” he says repeatedly these days — as if the 21 states holding caucuses and primaries this week are simply a formality.

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Alabama – McCain
Arizona – McCain or Romney
Arkansas – Huckabee
California – Mitt
Colorado – Mitt
Connecticut – McCain
Delaware – Mitt
Georgia – Mitt
Idaho – Mitt
Illinois – ???
Kansas – ???
Massachusetts – Mitt
Missouri – Mitt
Minnesota – ???
New Jersey – McCain
New Mexico – McCain
New York – McCain
Oklahoma – McCain
Tennessee – Mitt
Utah – Mitt

Hopefully Mitt continues after Super Tuesday.

CABE on February 4, 2008 at 12:46 PM

If Mitt wins Alabama I’ll take back everything I ever said about evangelicals not voting for a Mormon, but I ain’t too worried.

SouthernGent on February 4, 2008 at 12:47 PM

But it’s a religion with you people, the McCain hate. No amount of polite discussion or factual presentation will change

HIS RECORD?

joncoltonis on February 4, 2008 at 1:05 PM

What are you smoking. Here is what I think will pan out:

California – Mitt 60%/McCain30%

ConservativePartyNow on February 4, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Uh… whatever he might be on, it looks like you’re smoking a much more potent strain.

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 1:11 PM

I live in California and I wanted to vote for Mitt tomorrow but found out that since I’m registered as “non partisan” that I will be unable to do so. The Republican party has closed their primary voting to Republican voters only. Non-partisan voters can vote for the Democrat party or the American Independent party only. The Republican party failed to file the requisite statement to the Secretary of State indicating that they would allow unaffiliated voters to participate. Used to be that you could just request whatever ballot you wanted at the polling place. Bummer! Is there any way I can do a write-in?

jane1 on February 4, 2008 at 1:14 PM

There is a danger of living in a bubble. In this case, a bubble composed of listening to like minded talk radio and only reading like minded blogs. People that live inside a bubble are always astounded that people outside the bubble do not think the way they do.

When Reagan won a landslide victory with 49 states, a liberal newspaper reporter made the incredulous statement, “How could he possibly have won, no one I know voted for him.”

The view from inside a Talk Radio/Conservative Blog bubble is no less distorted. How can McCain be winning when everyone tha posts on HotAir hates him?!?!?!?!!?

Outside the bubble, McCain is perceived differently. Get used to it.

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 4, 2008 at 1:20 PM

You do know that Mac is loved in AZ and was re-elected with over 80% of the vote in the last election?

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 4, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Yes, I know. I did say by some miracle…

kcd on February 4, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Sometimes you just have to laugh at these things.

All that matters to so many voters is that he was in the military, and was in the Vietcong prison.

That’s all it takes to be president.

A friend of mine used nothing more than that criteria to vote for him.

*sigh*

It’s little wonder many in Washington view the electorate as gullible lemmings.

If the shoe fits……..

Hawkins1701 on February 4, 2008 at 1:45 PM

If Mitt wins Alabama I’ll take back everything I ever said about evangelicals not voting for a Mormon, but I ain’t too worried.

SouthernGent on February 4, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Might be closer than you think. Most polls have a 3 way tie in Al. I also listen to wvnn talk radio here in AL. I have only heard a couple people say they are voting for McCain or Huckabee. Most everyone says Mitt. We shall see tomorrow…Hope I don’t have to call in sick wednesday…

kcd on February 4, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Romney’s best shot in a winner-take-all state is Missouri, where’s he’s been inching closer but still trails Maverick by 5-10 points in most polls.

Isn’t Utah Mitt’s best shot in a winner-take-all state?

flip on February 4, 2008 at 2:33 PM

a few years ago the “mav” stated that john kerry would make a good president. recently hes said hillary would make a good president. (i heard it in his own voice. unless levin was pulling a hoax.)
check the “mavs” web page and see how many liberal endorsements he has.
mclaim-feingold/kennedy/silky. that alone speaks volumes.
his record does not lie.
then again im a dumb construction worker. surrounded by, most likely, “migrant” workers.

i was for fred. now hoping for mitt as mcain scares the crap out of me. mitt has been a very successful business man and govenor. he has some pretty impressive credentials to me.

washington is afraid of mitt. his statements about cutting all the govt jobs in mass. and how he cant wait to get his hands on washington. they all lose.

palefaced on February 4, 2008 at 3:23 PM

The Republican party has closed their primary voting to Republican voters only.

Jane,

Do you blame them? Look at the state and the way the Democrat Party/liberals run everything and completely disregard the values of conservative voters. A primary open to non-Republicans would just invite all the liberals who have no intention of voting for any Republican to skew the GOP’s nominee. I support a system that prevents the dope-smoking sodomites of San Francisco foisting John McCain on the party! It’s bad enough the number of McCain supporters on this forum that get nasty and talk about how they intend to “stuff” McCain on us (they know who they are!)

highhopes on February 4, 2008 at 3:43 PM

Well, we are almost there. I will be so glad when I can come to my favorite websites and not have to defend McCain. Maybe then we can start defeating Hillary/Obama.

Rightwingsparkle on February 4, 2008 at 3:57 PM

McCain is predicted to have a near insurmountable delegate lead after tomorrow’s vote. And you know who that benefits? Mitt Romney.

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 4:12 PM

Well, we are almost there. I will be so glad when I can come to my favorite websites and not have to defend McCain.
Rightwingsparkle on February 4, 2008 at 3:57 PM

Can’t blame ya- I wouldn’t want to have to defend McCain either.

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 4:13 PM

California Republican Duncan Hunter endorsed Mike Huckabee

California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger endorsed John McCain

Rudy Giuliani(who led California MOST of the year) endorsed John McCain

McCain, should win CA.

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:18 PM

Jane,

Do you blame them? Look at the state and the way the Democrat Party/liberals run everything and completely disregard the values of conservative voters. A primary open to non-Republicans would just invite all the liberals who have no intention of voting for any Republican to skew the GOP’s nominee. I support a system that prevents the dope-smoking sodomites of San Francisco foisting John McCain on the party! It’s bad enough the number of McCain supporters on this forum that get nasty and talk about how they intend to “stuff” McCain on us (they know who they are!)

highhopes on February 4, 2008 at 3:43 PM

No, I don’t blame them at all. I understand the position they’re in. I’m just kicking myself for not changing my party affiliation to Repub on time for this primary. What I’d really like to know is if I can write-in Romney and if I do, will it actually be counted for him?

jane1 on February 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM

someone said the GOP pimary isn’t open in CA? That’s because during the McCain/Bush primary, independents and dems were voting for McCain to mess up our election, since they knew Gore had the lock. Changed it to an
void non-repubs voting for another party’s primary candidate.

Living in SoCal, I see Mitt stickers, signs, and TV ads. The only others I see is rarely for Obama or Clinton, but not in any numerous cases. I do for Mitt though. I don’t see anyone pumping for McCain… ???? Does anyone actually support him on the grassroots level? If so, I don’t see it. What I see is a lot of elitist conservative talking heads saying he’s the De Facto candidate and GOPers have to get behind him be aide, like it or not, he’s one of our own. Somehow that translated into a lot of defeatist votes in that direction. Conservatives are our own worse enemies. Still playing the underdog, still believing you can’t get the legislation you want, and still thinking you have to go along to get along.

Sultry Beauty on February 4, 2008 at 6:33 PM

The Republican Party needs to toss out all those saggy-assed old bags of you-know-what Senators who seem to love each other so much (“my good friend”) while they steal from and lie to the rest of us.

Getting rid of the slime in the Senate would be very cathartic; that would do wonders to reinvigorate the Republican Party.

Besides, all those old crooks and gladhanders and “reach-across-the-aisle” logrollers are how we got into this predicament. Our bench is thin, to put it mildly. And old. Real old. No wonder they all love each other, who else ever would?

How else would a McCain have gotten this far in the first place? Whose dream candidate could he possibly be? He has no vision beyond his own solipsism and has never managed a tiny candy store. In addition, he seems to hate our free enterprise system.

Our free market system to a dimwitted nullity like him must seem like examining the insides of a massive supercomputer. It’s all too complex… did he mention that he was in Vietnam, almost 40 years ago? Such a hero! Let’s make him our President! What impeccable logic drives that argument. But remember – rich smart people bad – Ted Kennedy good…

Speaking of computers (the rand() function for you geeks out there), thinking randomly, Apu in the “Simpsons” would be a far better choice, since he is experienced in inventory control, business planning, paying his (and not just his rich wife’s) taxes and seems to know how to handle firearms. He also knows about things that were invented after 1970. But, alas, Apu is foreign born.

I’ll still write in “Apu” before I ever vote for that crooked freedom-hating SOB.

TexasJew on February 4, 2008 at 7:32 PM

TexasJew on February 4, 2008 at 7:32 PM

Those old hot dog wieners that have gone years past the expiration date are sure to draw some criticism. He knowingly put people at risk and that is something we cannot accept in a candidate. Also the hiring of incompetent workers such as Homer J. Simpson and others is a setback. And most importantly do you recall the old man that got frozen in the freezer at the Kwik-E-Mart? Apu profited off of him.

Paid for by the Huckabee campaign

CABE on February 4, 2008 at 7:46 PM

Living in SoCal, I see Mitt stickers, signs, and TV ads.

Don’t know where in SoCal you are living but does it really matter? I lived in the Oxnard/Ventura area a few years ago (just after redistricting). My Congresswoman was a nutjob socialist Democrat whose biggest issue was federal money to remove gang tats from all the “upstanding citizens” of our district. Think my concerns about the GWOT or fiscal responsiblity even got a response? I was truly disenfranchised because California is better represented by the Berkeley city council that wants to kick the Marines out than they are by folks who display Romney stickers. These people, BTW, are far braver than I am because I know just how nasty and vindictive California Democrats can be to conservatives.

highhopes on February 4, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Zogby: Mitt leads by eight in California?

James (“Jim”) J. Zogby (Arabic,جيمس زغبي) is the founder and president of the Washington, D.C.-based Arab American Institute. In 2001, Zogby was elected to the Executive Committee of the United States Democratic National Committee (DNC).

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 10:55 PM

Zogby is also a senior analyst with the polling firm Zogby International, founded and managed by his brother John Zogby, and is a prominent lecturer and scholar on Middle East issues.

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Why does the DNC want Mitt to win?

I think that is Obvious.

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 10:57 PM

If Mitt wins Alabama I’ll take back everything I ever said about evangelicals not voting for a Mormon, but I ain’t too worried.

SouthernGent on February 4, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Mormons, Protestants, Catholics, Jews and Agnostics: we ALL gots to get together and pray for Mitt!

Tzetzes on February 4, 2008 at 11:12 PM

All I can say at this point is:

GO MITT ROMNEY!!!!!

Dave R. on February 5, 2008 at 1:11 AM

Go, Mitt, go!

No more 3.1 trillion dollar budgets!

linlithgow on February 5, 2008 at 3:22 AM

And no more McCain-Kennedy/Feingold/Lieberman’s.

profitsbeard on February 5, 2008 at 9:25 AM

I’M WITH MITT TO THE END.

madmonkphotog on February 5, 2008 at 9:53 AM

And the national polls have been……totally unreliable. Tomorrow I will believe them aftre the final vote count.

hpk1942 on February 5, 2008 at 7:51 PM

Why does the DNC want Mitt to win?

I think that is Obvious.

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 10:57 PM

I was right again..

Can i get some applause anyone?

Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 2:46 AM

Mitt leads by eight in California?

OOps…

Chakra Hammer on February 6, 2008 at 2:47 AM

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