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California: McCain 39, Romney 36, Huckabee 9; Update: “California means everything”

posted at 4:25 pm on February 4, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Within the margin of error but in line with the RCP average and Rasmussen. Again, Cali awards delegates proportionally so the only suspense is whether Mitt earns bragging rights to having won the popular vote in the country’s most populous state. If he gets wiped out elsewhere and pulls the upset on the coast, is that enough Mitt-mentum to make him go forward? I’m guessing no, in which case … SECOND LOOK AT HUCKABEE!

No, no. There shall be no second look at Huckabee.

Maverick’s ahead in the only major contested winner-take-all state, too, although that’s also within the margin. Exit question: Is there any bright spot in this otherwise bleak hour? There is indeed, although that poll’s very much an outlier. And note well this ominous trend. There’s one candidate above all others who’s known for bringing out new voters and independents, and it ain’t Hillary Clinton:

Election officials expect a high turnout, and Democratic leaders say voters are enthusiastic about their choices.

A record number of new voters — almost 151,000 — registered as Democrats in the final 45 days of eligibility for Tuesday’s election, party officials say.

“We have not seen this level of enthusiasm in a presidential primary in decades,” said California Democratic Party Chairman Art Torres. Independent voters, who make up nearly 20% of the electorate, also can vote in the Democratic primary if they request a ballot.

The GOP primary is closed which means those indies have only one place to go. Gulp.

Update: Ah, I neglected to compare this to the last Survey USA poll of California taken January 28. Big jump for Romney. There’s definitely Mitt-mentum out there, but maybe not enough time.

Update: Byron York leads with optimism but just keep reading, all the way down. Sounds to me like Mitt needs a surprise in California and in at least one additional state to suggest some sort of grassroots McCain backlash.

“The question in my mind is whether this is the beginning of the coalescing of the conservative movement against McCain, or whether it is something less than that,” the first Romney aide tells me. “Is he going forward on the basis of a conservative wave, although at the 11th hour and 59th minute?” If Romney believes there is such a conservative wave, he will certainly keep on.

And if Romney does keep on — yet another aide tells me “We’re already looking at February 9, February 12, and February 15” — that will give McCain’s opponents in the conservative world more time to press their case. “There is an increasing sense of urgency among conservatives that has led them to rally toward Romney, in that he would be a better standard bearer for the party on issues that are important to conservatives,” the aide says.


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I was just listening to Hannity, who had Zogby and Rasmussen on. They’re discussing Mitt continuing to gain in California, Georgia and a few others. As you said, they’re awarded proportionally, so he can still take quite a few.

The GOP primary is closed which means those indies have only one place to go.

Florida was supposed to be closed, too. Wonder if it will actually be so in CA.

amerpundit on February 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM

Second look at Paul :) He beat Mccain in the Maine caucus

offroadaz on February 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM

They lie in your face
all the time tryin to take your place
the backstabbers, backstabbers

The Race Card on February 4, 2008 at 4:29 PM

I can’t see Huck staying in the race past Tuesday

bnelson44 on February 4, 2008 at 4:30 PM

The POS Huckleberry needs to realize his time is up. Get off the stage and scurry back to Arkansas. You and Chuck can commiserate on the back porch wating for your popcorn squirrel to get done. If were lucky, we’ll never hear about you in national politics again.

Mallard T. Drake on February 4, 2008 at 4:33 PM

Get off the stage and scurry back to Arkansas.

Mallard T. Drake on February 4, 2008 at 4:33 PM

La Huckaracha!

sloopy on February 4, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Turnout is expected to be high in this weekend’s Democratic Maine caucus as well.

Ominous sign? So far, 4,539 votes have been counted in the GOP caucus.

From the story:

Looking past the Super Tuesday voting elsewhere toward their own caucuses next Sunday, Maine Democratic Party officials said over the weekend they had already processed 4,100 absentee ballot requests.

Yikes.

Slublog on February 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM

I wish Fred was still in it.

Anyways, I hope Mitt can do well

ConservativePartyNow on February 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Stick in a fork in Mitt, and serve up the waffles.

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

SECOND LOOK AT HUCKABEE!
No, no. There shall be no second look at Huckabee.

Whew. I was worried about you for a minute, AP.

TX Mom on February 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

The GOP primary is closed which means those indies have only one place to go. Gulp.

If Allah hosted Wheel Of Fortune, it would be Wheel of Nuance, and the only three spots on the wheel would be $150, Lose A Turn, and Bankrupt. :)

fiatboomer on February 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Stick in a fork in Mitt, and serve up the waffles.
Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Tiresome.

Slublog on February 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Stick in a fork in Mitt, and serve up the waffles.

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Dream on. First the Giants, next Mitt (ultimately a Giant)

Onager on February 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Huck has every right to stay in the race as long as he wants. I recall quite a few Fredheads around here begging Fred to stay in just long enough so they could have the pleasure of pulling the lever for that hunk of man meat. I’m sure Huck supporters are just as committed and want their voices to be heard. Huck is a very different candidate from Mitt and McCain. Those thinking they would all vote for Mitt are fooling themselves.

tommylotto on February 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Rasmussen and Zogby both agree Mitt is gaining in Alabama, too.

amerpundit on February 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Great pic of the 3 amigos. What’s Grahamnesty eating?

Brat on February 4, 2008 at 4:40 PM

Go Mitt! Conservative voters in California are waking up. Pray that the voters in the rest of the Super Tuesday states do the same.

AZCoyote on February 4, 2008 at 4:40 PM

No, no. There shall be no second look at Huckabee.

Words to be memorialized!

The GOP primary is closed which means those indies have only one place to go. Gulp.

Vote for/against the propositions, and go home.

Entelechy on February 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

fiatboomer on February 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Nah. The spots would be Free Spin, Lose a turn, and Bankrupt. Nothing to win, nothing to lose.

BacaDog on February 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

For god’s sake, Allah, don’t call California “Cali”. It grates on the ears of real Californians like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Nessuno on February 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Stick in a fork in Mitt, and serve up the waffles.
Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Tiresome.

Slublog on February 4, 2008 at 4:38 PM

+1
Exactly my feelings as well.

Nineball on February 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

To the picture, note to Mr. Lieberman “tell me who you’re friends are, and I’ll tell you…”

Entelechy on February 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

And I’m agreeing with Sublog if that wasn’t clear enough.

Nineball on February 4, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Stick in a fork in Mitt, and serve up the waffles.
Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:37 PM

LOL

Chakra, if Mitt were to make a comeback, are you gonna stick around and let us whip up on you? Surely you won’t tuck your tail and run.

BacaDog on February 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

For god’s sake, Allah, don’t call California “Cali”. It grates on the ears of real Californians like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Nessuno on February 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Kinda like calling the city “Frisco”

bnelson44 on February 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

“California means everything”

Since when?

LOL..

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:47 PM

McCain is projected to have a near insurmountable lead after tomorrow’s vote. And you know who that benefits? Mitt Romney.

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Chakra, if Mitt were to make a comeback, are you gonna stick around and let us whip up on you? Surely you won’t tuck your tail and run.

BacaDog on February 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Thats not gonna happen, Willard is done, he has pretty much already written is O-Mit-tuary

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Kinda like calling the city “Frisco”

bnelson44 on February 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

They don’t like it when we call it Frisco? Good, Frisco it is. We should call that Marxist hellhole nothing but Frisco (or Marxist hellhole) from here on out.

doubleplusundead on February 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Hollowpoint, since when do Americans love a loser?

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM

McCain is projected to have a near insurmountable lead after tomorrow’s vote. And you know who that benefits? Mitt Romney.
Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 4:50 PM

Haha. Like death and taxes.

Slublog on February 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Mitt loses Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida after outspending EVERYONE, and being the favorite of the “Establishment blogs and Radio” !

Oh what a remarkable candidate with a resonating message!

BWWAHAHAHA!

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:53 PM

I wonder what Hewitt thinks about all the goofing we do on him….

doubleplusundead on February 4, 2008 at 4:54 PM

Hollowpoint, since when do Americans love a loser?

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Chakra Hammer, since when do you fail to get the long running joke?

Hollowpoint on February 4, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Within the margin of error but in line with the RCP average and Rasmussen. Again, Cali awards delegates proportionally so the only suspense is whether Mitt earns bragging rights to having won the popular vote in the country’s most populous state.

Actually, there is a little bonus for the winner:

170 of 173 of California’s delegates to the Republican National Convention are pledged to presidential contenders in today’s California Presidential Primary: 159 delegates allocated to presidential contenders based on the primary results in each of the 53 congressional districts (each congressional district is assigned 3 National Convention delegates) and 11 delegates allocated statewide. Delegates are pledged to the presidential contender receiving the greatest number of votes in the primary at either the congressional district or statewide level.

bnelson44 on February 4, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Hewitt needs to wipe the brown stuff off his nose!

Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Cali awards delegates proportionally

No we don’t. It’s per district, which means my Republican vote in a Democratic district counts more than usual (making up for the years in which a California vote didn’t count at all). I’ve seen signs up for all of the big four except McCain, for what it’s worth. If Romney can convince blue-district libertarian-leaning Republicans and red-district military and rural voters to vote for him in a slight plurality per district, he could win big. Otherwise, he could lose big.

calbear on February 4, 2008 at 4:55 PM

I wonder what Hewitt thinks about all the goofing we do on him….

doubleplusundead on February 4, 2008 at 4:54 PM

He thinks it benefits Mitt Romney

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 4:55 PM

that will give McCain’s opponents in the conservative world more time to press their case.

Uh. Isn’t this Mitt’s job?

lorien1973 on February 4, 2008 at 4:57 PM

Surely you won’t tuck your tail and run.

..back to the D.U.

ftfy

ChrisM on February 4, 2008 at 4:57 PM

Lindsey Graham is John McCain with a lower IQ.

I want to slap that silly hillbilly grin of that fool’s face.

Roger Waters on February 4, 2008 at 4:58 PM

No we don’t. It’s per district, which means my Republican vote in a Democratic district counts more than usual (making up for the years in which a California vote didn’t count at all). I’ve seen signs up for all of the big four except McCain, for what it’s worth. If Romney can convince blue-district libertarian-leaning Republicans and red-district military and rural voters to vote for him in a slight plurality per district, he could win big. Otherwise, he could lose big.

calbear on February 4, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Is it possible to win the state but not win the majority of the congressional districts?

bnelson44 on February 4, 2008 at 5:03 PM

He thinks it benefits Mitt Romney

William Amos on February 4, 2008 at 4:55 PM

Heh.

doubleplusundead on February 4, 2008 at 5:04 PM

Half the state voted weeks ago by mail.

crosspatch on February 4, 2008 at 5:05 PM

Chakra, if Mitt were to make a comeback, are you gonna stick around and let us whip up on you? Surely you won’t tuck your tail and run.

BacaDog on February 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Nah, he’d be off the field faster than that Bellachik fellow.

sulla on February 4, 2008 at 5:06 PM

Los Angeles, CA (AHN) – Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Barack Obama (D-IL) are neck and neck in California, while Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) leads Republican rivals by a wide margin, according to the latest Field Poll released on Sunday.

Among Republicans, McCain has 32 percent followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney with 24 percent, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee with 13 percent, and Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) with 10 percent. Fifteen percent said they were undecided and 6 percent said they supported other candidates.

The results are based on interviews of 511 likely Democratic primary voters and 481 likely Republican primary voters in California conducted from January 25 to February 1. The margin of error is 4.5 percentage points for Democrats and 4.6 percentage points for Republicans.

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009929415

bnelson44 on February 4, 2008 at 5:07 PM

Just hit Mitt’s tip jar with another donation.

sulla on February 4, 2008 at 5:08 PM

For god’s sake, Allah, don’t call California “Cali”. It grates on the ears of real Californians like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Nessuno on February 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Hey, if it’s good enough for the rap industry, it’s good enough for me.

ErikTheRed on February 4, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Huck has every right to stay in the race as long as he wants. I recall quite a few Fredheads around here begging Fred to stay in just long enough so they could have the pleasure of pulling the lever for that hunk of man meat. I’m sure Huck supporters are just as committed and want their voices to be heard. Huck is a very different candidate from Mitt and McCain. Those thinking they would all vote for Mitt are fooling themselves.

tommylotto on February 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Of course, that way at the convention he gets to pledge his delegates to whomever tosses his salad.

ErikTheRed on February 4, 2008 at 5:10 PM

For god’s sake, Allah, don’t call California “Cali”. It grates on the ears of real Californians like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Nessuno on February 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

By the way, California means “land of the Caliph”

bnelson44 on February 4, 2008 at 5:11 PM

For god’s sake, Allah, don’t call California “Cali”. It grates on the ears of real Californians like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Nessuno on February 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Cali, Cali, Cali /real Californian :-)

baldilocks on February 4, 2008 at 5:17 PM

Second look at Paul :) He beat Mccain in the Maine caucus

offroadaz on February 4, 2008 at 4:28 PM

He did not. There shall be no second look at Paul. The first was bad enough. I would prefer Mitt Con-mey to this nutcase.

Pax americana on February 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Is it possible to win the state but not win the majority of the congressional districts?

bnelson44 on February 4, 2008 at 5:03 PM

Definitely. Romney could rack up huge numbers in right-leaning parts of So Cal and the Central Valley, and still lose districts along the coast and across the north by relatively tiny margins on the Republican side, since in many of those areas implying that you might have voted for Bush, support the war, or maintain doubts about gay marriage and abortion is considered hate speech punishable by loss of employment and heavy fines. If McCain caries 2 out of the 3 remaining Republicans in Santa Monica, for instance, his only problem will be persuading one of them to travel to the convention as a delegate.

CK MacLeod on February 4, 2008 at 5:29 PM

29 Hours 29 Minutes Countdown to Moderation

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 4, 2008 at 5:31 PM

Well I know of five Californians who already voted for Mitt. (Yeah, I know, bfd…)

Go Mitt!

NTWR on February 4, 2008 at 5:42 PM

After Romney loses in CA and the rest of the country tomorrow, can we go back to bashing Dems for a while? Please?

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 4, 2008 at 5:44 PM

NTWR on February 4, 2008 at 5:42 PM

And I offset one of them with my vote for Mac!

Go California!!! Go Mac!!!

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 4, 2008 at 5:45 PM

Romneymania in Georgia! (????)

Insider Advantage Poll (FWIW) And this trend is evident in a couple of other polls, too.

SouthernGent on February 4, 2008 at 6:18 PM

I admit it, I am being lazy. Can anyone point me to a succinct summation of what is wrong with Huckabee’s positions? I’ve got a lot of stuff bouncing around in my head but am looking for something I can send in response to these Pro-Huck e-mails that frankly just plain lie about his positions. I’m hoping to persuade some of my “evangelical” associations to ote mitt. Thanks in advance.

infidel2 on February 4, 2008 at 6:19 PM

He did not. There shall be no second look at Paul. The first was bad enough. I would prefer Mitt Con-mey to this nutcase.

Pax americana on February 4, 2008 at 5:21 PM

Yes he did. He won more delegates then Mccain. Over 1/3rd of the Maine delegates are for Paul

offroadaz on February 4, 2008 at 6:22 PM

After Romney loses in CA and the rest of the country tomorrow, can we go back to bashing Dems for a while? Please?

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 4, 2008 at 5:44 PM

What do you think we’ve been doing? McShamnesty is a democrat.

lan astaslem on February 4, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Of course, that way at the convention he gets to pledge his delegates to whomever tosses his salad.

ErikTheRed on February 4, 2008 at 5:10 PM

Does that mean that if Huckabee stays in it, he controls who gets his delegates at the convention? If so, that’s terrible for Mitt, doesn’t that mean that we can just count all of Huck’s delegates in the McCain column?

JustTruth101 on February 4, 2008 at 6:36 PM

Does that mean that if Huckabee stays in it, he controls who gets his delegates at the convention? If so, that’s terrible for Mitt, doesn’t that mean that we can just count all of Huck’s delegates in the McCain column?

JustTruth101 on February 4, 2008 at 6:36 PM

Probably…BUT…preachers (especially politician preachers) are money ho’s. Mitt could put some money in a silver collection plate and Hucky would swoon.

SouthernGent on February 4, 2008 at 6:49 PM

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