Audio: McCain’s not so straight-talkin’ immigration robocall
posted at 7:24 pm on February 4, 2008 by Bryan
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This McCain campaign robocall was intercepted and preserved by an intrepid soul out in California, where Romney either leads by a little or a lot and where he has been surging over the weekend. Immigration is one of those issues where McCain’s maverickness shines through most brightly. Better hide that light under a bushel, stat!
Here’s what McCain says in the call.
SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN: On the issue of immigration, there’s no debate that our borders are broken. There are 12 million people here illegally. I’ve listened and learned. We must secure our borders first and restore trust and confidence in our government. As president, I’ll hire new border patrol guards, build a fence, ask governors to certify that their borders are secure. The 2 million people who have committed crimes will be deported immediately. No one will be rewarded for illegal behavior. They’ll go the back of the line, pay fines and learn English. For those already in our country, there will be no special privileges and we’ll punish employers who hire illegal immigrants. We’ll be humane and compassionate, but we will be firm. It’s a matter of national security.
What kind of fence would McCain build? Oh yeah…
How would McCain inspire confidence in government? Give former Mexican cabinet officer Juan Hernandez a post in Homeland Security? Along with Sen. Lindsay “we’re gonna tell the bigots to shut up” Graham as Attorney General? And by signing his own McCain-Kennedy bill once a Democrat Congress has sent it to his desk?
Yeah, probably all that.
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Full court press today…
Vizzini on February 4, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Wow.
How many people are going to fall for this?
Still voting McCain? I hope not.
CABE on February 4, 2008 at 7:28 PM
From Dr Thomas Sowell
Wade on February 4, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Fake! C’mon guys, we all know that was Stephen Hawking…
doubleplusundead on February 4, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Bush said it before. Money Trumps All.
Are open borders ranchers lining the pockets of McCain?
Kini on February 4, 2008 at 7:30 PM
I just got a call from TrustHuckabee.com (caller ID: Herndon,VA). They got the class warfare thing going on big time and start off talking about how… Senator McCain is a millionaire.
Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 7:32 PM
I thought we can’t deport millions of people?
Bryan, you know what this reminds me of? Reagan’s 11th. Stop the
criticismsmears and fall in line.amerpundit on February 4, 2008 at 7:33 PM
I’ve heard of them. Did you get it recorded?
Bryan on February 4, 2008 at 7:34 PM
What are we waiting for?
Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Mechanical b.s.
Marching fecal stools, with little steel rivets, like something out of “The Wall”.
McCanical.
profitsbeard on February 4, 2008 at 7:37 PM
No, sorry! I can’t record (that I know of) since I use voice mail, but if anyone gets a call from Herndon VA and can record, that’s who is calling. That is where Common Sense issues is located.
I got a call from Huck toobut I hung up as soon as I knew who it was- shoulda stayed on to see what he said. DUH!
Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 7:38 PM
McCainez has morphed into a disgusting creature. He was born too late and belongs in the failing days of the Roman Empire as Rome’s politicians pandered to every ethinic group in search of votes, whether it was in the best interest of Rome or not. I think we all know how that played out.
Juan McCainez … Et Tu?
darwin on February 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM
The last time we heard a Republican introduce compassionate conservatism was King Read-My-Lips George Ist.
No thanks you.
I’ll be compassionate…I won’t shoot ‘em in the ass after I kick em out of the copter….
mksmithwriter on February 4, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Paleface Juan McCain speak with crooked tongue and ride in a forked tongue express train.
He will try to steal your land for cheap beads.
Must get what is left of his scalp soon.
- Chief Hinmahtooyahlatkekt
MB4 on February 4, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Dude…that’s why they don’t teach real history in American schools anymore. Read US Today’s story on student’s top ten Americans. One founding father in the whole bunch (no, not Washington). And I think Ophra was number 7.
Gack gack gack….
mksmithwriter on February 4, 2008 at 7:43 PM
I just got a robocall from Romney that started out like this “Hello, Shawn, this is Mitt Romney…” My name’s not Shawn, but I’m going to vote for him anyway.
I’ll be glad when all these damn robocalls stop. I’ve gotten at least 5 today. I should have gone to the office.
Bad Penny on February 4, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Forewarning: Grande Juan McMexico will win California tomorrow…
Vizzini on February 4, 2008 at 7:47 PM
wade, that’s what the whole campaign finance reform thing was about…just a smoke screen for McCain to hide behind while he desperately tried to make us forget that he was caught with his hand in Keating’s pocket, along with Dennis DiConcini and 3 other sitting US Senators.
I’m an Arizonan and a Conservative, but haven’t voted for McCain in a Republican primary since the Keating scandal broke.
DrW on February 4, 2008 at 7:48 PM
Anyone ever watch The Cain Mutiny?
It reminds me of McCain.
NTWR on February 4, 2008 at 7:49 PM
So many lies…so little time.
Jaibones on February 4, 2008 at 7:51 PM
You know, I would LOVE to hear what everyone would do about illegals. Round up 12 million people tomorrow, and shove them out? McCain’s views and Romney’s are very similar. But it seems McCain is viciously attacked over and over…
I fail to see the problem with securing the borders FIRST, then we can do something about illegals that are here. I truly do.
btw…the only robo-call I’ve gotten so far is one message on my machine from a Ron Paul group. Figures…
JetBoy on February 4, 2008 at 7:52 PM
sorry to contradict that statement danish, but McCain ain’t no millionaire. his wife cindy is…he daddy owned the biggest beer distributor in AZ. but johnny hasn’t any money of his own..just like a certain long faced Senator from Mass, no?
want to hear about McCain’s first wife and kids that he abandoned and basically disavowed?
DrW on February 4, 2008 at 7:53 PM
I realize that, and I know all about Cindy’s bootlegging dad, her having stolen drugs from her own charity, and so forth. This will all be whispered about in the general election.
I’m just reporting what the robocall from TrustHucakbee said, and that part I am quoting verbatim.
Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 7:58 PM
I do not vote for Liars.
All the conservative pundits who are urging people like me to “take one for the team” seem to forget a few things:
1. McCain is a liberal democrat (yes I know about his voting record being 80% conservative but I doubt that number assigns weights to the IMPORTANT votes)
2. The primaries are still going on—McCain may have been crowned by the MSM and by news and internet pundits—but Mitt is still in the race (and others). Let’s continue the debates.
3. I vote per my beliefs. I vote for the person I feel best represents my beliefs and who can best lead our country. To help me know who to vote for, we have debates and primaries. I do not simply vote for the frontrunner. That is why I got so sick and tired of pundits who try to prejudice the electoral process just to show their written wit.
Back to the topic. McCain is a damn liar.
Montana on February 4, 2008 at 7:59 PM
This sounds like some kind of loophole he’ll use as an excuse down the road.
ctmom on February 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM
You beat me to it, except that you’re wrong in that it was Cindy’s dad that is the Alcohol Distributor.
omnipotent on February 4, 2008 at 8:02 PM
At the time I was angry about how lightly she got off, thinking that anyone else would probably have seen prison time.
But I also thought about what it must be like to be married to him. I’ve seen him go off more than once, I would surely need drugs if I lived with him.
sloopy on February 4, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Probably had to watch Humprhy Bogart’s modernized version, rolling those ball-bearings and drooling down his chin…just like McCaniac…
mksmithwriter on February 4, 2008 at 8:03 PM
But…but…McCain sounded so SINCERE in that ad!
Okay, yeah, I’ve heard less stilted delivery from “Para [Espanol], selecte el numero dos”.
sulla on February 4, 2008 at 8:07 PM
While securing the borders transistion Education Department workers into Border Patrol agency. Train ‘em and send em out on the straights and round ‘em up. Start with the large companies, first. Call out National Guard to truck ‘em to to the boarder. Force ‘em to build a wall comparable to the Great Wall of China. Shove ‘em over the top when they’re done.
I’m done screwing around. With the illegals and the cheap-assed businesses suppressing our wages with cheap labor.
Think I’m kiddin’? You talkin’ to me? You talkin’ to me.
Dude. 1..2..3…done deal.
mksmithwriter on February 4, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Bingo! Maybe we should start calling him “Queeg”.
NTWR on February 4, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Loophole - governors are not border enforcers…it’s a Fed job.
Yeah, ShwarzenEGGER and the rest of ‘em ‘certify’ the borders are secure…riiiiiiiiight.
mksmithwriter on February 4, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I just drove home and heard this on KFI 640AM. Nearly drove into the creek I parallel. It’s surreal.
Right before/after this, John & Ken are hammering McCain on their 3-7p.m. show, which has 1 million listeners, a great majority of them independents. Btw, they advocate, as an independent, to vote for Hillary tomorrow, to push Obama back in CA.
Entelechy on February 4, 2008 at 8:11 PM
MB4 on February 4, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Yeah…that’s the movie - forced to watch it all those years he was in Hanoi…why he’s call the Hanoi Candidate…
mksmithwriter on February 4, 2008 at 8:12 PM
I talked with a few Huck supporters in CA they are going to vote for McCain.
Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
McPandermania
Starlink on February 4, 2008 at 8:22 PM
I heard this same ad on KEARTH 101 this morning.
I don’t know who he thinks he’s gonna fool with this crap but I’m telling you it ain’t gonna work.
The Ugly American on February 4, 2008 at 8:23 PM
LOL……
The Ugly American on February 4, 2008 at 8:28 PM
When a politician like McCain gets to wield the power of this kind of money, it’s no wonder why he panders to the illegals.
TheSitRep on February 4, 2008 at 8:35 PM
Look…RIGHT NOW there are laws on the books in regards to people who are in this country illegally. RIGHT NOW there is funding set aside to build a majority of that border fence. If we’re not going to enforce laws we have, then I believe that no one can come up with new laws, and enforce those.
We really need to come to the realization that 12 million people are NOT going to be deported. By anyone. You can call it “amnesty” or whatever else, but I have to settle with calling it “reality”…whether I like it, or not.
There’s far too much over-reacting to the immigration issue. The GOP is tearing itself apart over it…and for what? Nothing’s changed. Even Reagan knew the reality of it. And of anyone on the ticket who’s closest to Reagan was, it’s McCain.
And anyone who thinks Mitt Romney’s plan of a case-by-case basis (sounds like amnesty to me!) is really going to work when you’re talking about 12 million people, is crazy. Just imagine the buerocracy that would have to be implemented just to deal with the paperwork alone?
JetBoy on February 4, 2008 at 8:40 PM
I tend to give people who are addicted to prescription drugs after suffering debilitating pain a pass.
Where I get irritated with McCain is:
1. When he plays the class warfare game against Mitt (which would not be unlike John Kerry doing that while married to Teresa Heinz).
2. I loathe politicians who when caught doing something wrong (Keating Five) aren’t thankful that they got off and look for redemption, but turn around and create new laws as if those laws would have prevented them from screwing up in the first place. In his case his “tempation” gave us CFR.
Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Spot on. 8 years of a Republican POTUS hasn’t been able to solve the problem, because the President knows he cannot just uproot and deport tens of millions of people to God knows where. McCain’s proposal of securing the border and separating the criminals from the workers is sensible enough.
But the shrilling about it on HotAir is more about MM’s own crusade, and her personal antagonism with Geraldo Rivera. She’s invested far too much in the issue to drop it off the top of the agenda.
Pax americana on February 4, 2008 at 8:55 PM
And if you believe that robo-call, I’ve got a couple of bridges to sell you.
countywolf on February 4, 2008 at 8:56 PM
Thank you!!!
Again with the straw man.
We don’t HAVE to deport 12 million. Take away the incentive to be here read: employment, free education, paid-for (by me!) healthcare, and they’ll deport themselves.
It’s already happening in places it’s being implemented.
And guess what, one of those place is in Arizona!
X_LA_Native on February 4, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Look, I don’t know how practical his plan is from a bureaucratic standpoint, but it is not amnesty. He wants to give people a chance to get their affairs in order, let their kids end the school year, and so forth - and them kick them out and have them go back to the end of the line.
His proposal which would have let people pay a measly $3000 fine and get to live here forever. That was not sensible.
Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Fixed.
jwp1964 on February 4, 2008 at 9:01 PM
That is also a radio ad on KFI about 10 minutes ago. Stop hyperventilating, if you don’t believe McCain on this, what makes you believe Romney on anything? Romney will raise taxes because he is a deal maker. Romney will cave on Iraq when the pressure mounts. Romney will get straight crushed by Hillary anyway. Get real.
Froggy on February 4, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Bingo. They need to do that in Western Europe too but, for example, in Britain they are now going to give Muslim Bigamists extra welfare bucks for the wives (up to 4) they left back home.
Are you saying that that is your opinion or what a radio ad said?
Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 9:07 PM
I thought they were living in the shadows. How are they going to find them?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 4, 2008 at 9:17 PM
That’s just it…Romney’s “plan” is not practical. It’s not even a “plan”, just ideas. What exactly constitutes “getting affairs in order?” And will he let someone stay so their kid(s) can finish their current school year, or through their entire school years?
The whole “case-by-case” thing is absurd, and ridiculous. Who decides? Is their an appeals process? Bureaucratic nightmare. And, IMHO, if someone’s here illegally, and you let them stay, that’s “amnesty”. And that’s Romneys plan?
JetBoy on February 4, 2008 at 9:19 PM
It’s not amnesty anymore than letting someone out on bail is amnesty. It’s a temporary reprieve, not a permanent route to citizenship.
Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Michael Medved had it right when he called that “simplistic sloganeering”…Romney, and anyone else, can say whatever they want, but there is absolutely no way that 12 million people are going to be sent packing. Not even mentioning what I said above…who is going to decide who stays, and for how long?
Romney’s “plan” makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Just my opinion…
JetBoy on February 4, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Are you ready to retract your amnesty statement?
Buy Danish on February 4, 2008 at 9:45 PM
1st Tell them to to take a hike: No Work, No Citizenship, No Hospital, No Nothing. The “12 million” will leave to “oh beautiful Mexico” in a New York MINUTE. And they will SELF DEPORT !!!
mred on February 4, 2008 at 9:54 PM
actions speak louder then your words liar. and your actions prove your a bold face liar
now go away or i shall taunt you a second time.
Mojack420 on February 4, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Go Mac Go!!!
Stick a fork in Mitt, he’s done.
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 4, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Flip the Waffles!
Chakra Hammer on February 4, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Saw this on Drudge: Dutch robots will soon be pumping gas.
…Doing the jobs our illegal aliens are unwilling to do.
Tzetzes on February 4, 2008 at 11:08 PM
You know, if Hillary and McCain are the nominee’s, we can run an ad that says. “We know Hillary’s too Liberal for America, she voted to support the McCain Kennedy Amnesty bill.” That will get all the moderates on our side right?
Snake307 on February 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM
So McCainiac is ahead in the delegate count by 16, and Mitt is done and he should get out according to the drive-by media….and some delusional supporters.
Yet the Seahag is 15 delegates behind Obama, and it’s neck and neck.
Right. It’s over.
91Veteran on February 4, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Jetboy & cheering section pax Americana:
Oklahoma just passed one of the toughest Illegal immigration laws in the nation. One of four states to do so.
IT’S WORKING.
Sorry Texas, they’re coming your way.
Janna on February 4, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Yeah, verifying who was legal and who was illegal and getting them to pay their fine would be tough wouldn’t it? …and getting them to go to the back of the line, getting them to learn English, yahdah, yahdah.
91Veteran on February 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM
His securing the border and separating the criminals wouldn’t work…didn’t you see jetboy lamenting the bureaucracy needed? How can it be both ways? Too big of a nightmare to deport them all yet they’ll find the criminals and deport them, while making all the rest pay fines?
Oh, and, I haven’t seen MM posting a comment here in, like, forever.
91Veteran on February 4, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Speaker phone + computer Mic
- The Cat
MirCat on February 5, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Did you just get off the Willie Nelson conspiracy bus? MM doesn’t post here and her views are likely at odds (at times) with either Allahpundit or Bryan. My views sure as hell are at odds with Allahpundit.
But seriously–McCain spent all that time trying to shove amnesty down America’s throat and he just now decides he needs to enforce the law?
Yeaa…mkay…I’m gunna-sorta-kinda-hafta call BS on that…mkay? Yeaaa….thanks.
There is no conspiracy. There is no derangement. There are many reasons for people to not like McCain–let alone to not like the idea of him being POTUS.
But it sure is easy to press the conspiracy alarm. No need to dig into the facts and then apply reason and logic.
Besides Oprah Winfrey picks our reading material. She may as well pick out President.
Montana on February 5, 2008 at 12:34 AM
…bed-wetting English pig-dog!
Jaibones on February 5, 2008 at 12:41 AM
True. She got tired of me hitting on her all the time.
Jaibones on February 5, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Ding, ding… you get the cookie. Now, with all those “Laws” that are on those “books”, how much is actually getting done? Yea, pretty much nothing. Which is why McCain is trotting out the “restore trust in government” line. Because we truely DON’T trust them to secure the boarder later, soon, sometime, when we get around to it… crap, we need ANOTHER Amnesty bill…
“Waaa, Waaaaaaa, Waa… the problem is too big, can’t do it, it’s too Harrrrrrrrrd.”
Stop the tidalwave of people coming over our boarders, deport the criminals, allow the police to ask immigration status, enforce punishment of those who hire illegals… while making it easier for them to come here and work legally (while preferably holding a percentage of their paycheck at the boarder which would be given to them when they leave) and for us to track who IS, and IS NOT, in this country…. and those who are illegal will leave on their own w/o having to deport them.
And look how well Reagan handled immigration? (Ref. 1st point above). Bill Bennett put it best when he said “Even Reagan was not Reagan before he was Reagan.” or something to that effect. Meaning your memory of someone is not often as it really was. Reagan is not a god and was not perfect. 1986 Amnesty bill (the one never to be repeated… like the NFA machine gun amnesty) was an example of that.
And McCain-Kennedy will be any better? That bill was designed to fail… just like his new “version.” We have become sheep, we don’t care abour freedom and liberty, even as it is taken from us inch by inch from these career criminal politicians. Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave at the thought of what we have become.
Wake up, vote, washington needs new blood… and we need an end to the string of gutless career politicians.
Brad
“Were we directed from Washington when to sow, and when to reap, we should soon want bread.”
– Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, 1821
“Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it.”
– Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
BadBrad on February 5, 2008 at 6:45 AM
Good idea! I’ll try that during the general election :)
Buy Danish on February 5, 2008 at 7:38 AM