Connie thinks those couple of million have all struck a deal with the GOP.

right2bright on February 4, 2008 at 9:14 AM

Connie didn’t say that. Connie’s original post had a link, see if you can get someone to read it to you.

right2bright on February 4, 2008 at 9:14 AM

Can you really be so frickin stupid to think votes can’t be manipulated, misplaced, lost? Do you really believe only Dems can screw with voting?

The Phoenix Clear Channel talk station – every host *except* one is against McCain. That one happens to be a state Republican party hack. I bet thats what you are too.

Mike – “A mass movement of people voting on the magnitude of Ross Perot’s votes from 1992 for a 3rd Party Conservative in 2008 will send a wake-up call to the GOP …”

Again, I love your enthusiam, but that ain’t gonna happen. If Fred had enough votes to do that, he’d still be in the race. McCain is winning because of name recognition. If the Base rallies around Mitt, and he is nominated, he WILL have name rec too. Mitt can beat Hillary, but McCain will lose like our last name rec candidate, Bob Dole.

Tony737 on February 4, 2008 at 1:06 AM

I appreciate Mike’s enthusiasm as well. I just voted for Fred in the WA primary (our absentee ballot still has his name on it) and I will be writing in Fred in the general election. I won’t forget who I voted for the day after the election, and to me that’s all that really matters. In this sea of RINOs, I refuse to give up my values. No matter who takes the white house in 2009, this country is screwed. I have NO faith that Romney would uphold the claims he is making to win the nomination and I am tired of defending the Rino in office now. I refuse to do it for the next 4-8 years.

I will be working to write-in Fred Thompson to repeat 1992. (Unless, of course, he endorses McCain, then I’m at a loss for what Conservative to write-in. Newt lost me with his man-caused global warming big government nonsense.).

Michael in MI on February 4, 2008 at 12:14 AM

I will help!

Since they beat the “inevitable” team Patriots, the Romney camp has the public acceptance of the possibility for his come-from-behind to take the lead by 4 points before the whistle.

Will Romney seize the day, or will McCain blow him to bits in the line of friendly fire? “My friend” preceding every address exposes McCain as the Caesar wanna-be that he is. Caesar suffered death by the alliance of senators including his trusted Brutus. Bloggers can’t take down McCain. But bloggers can barrage their senators to WITHDRAW any support for McCain.

To date, Mitt has failed to create a reason for senatorial unity toward his campaign for presidency. Senators probably have many established reasons to NOT ally with Mitt. But the barrage of phone calls and e-mails AGAINST MCCAIN with the ultimate constituent vote against their legislator would make an impact on current “good” behavior from senators towards McCain’s POTUS campaign.

Grassroots successful influence on Capitol Hill depends on unity, and at present there is none. Mitt’s camp should get beyond amnesty for illegal aliens as it alone does not make Americans unite AGAINST McCain’s campaign for POTUS. It is amnesty for McCain’s crimes against America that would bind the grassroots movement to prevent him from taking hold of the presidency.

It is McCain’s corruption and his wife’s corruption destroying the public trust at the expense of the most vulnerable people on earth that remains McCain’s bane. He and his wife never were prosecuted though federal investigations proved their guilt. McCain sold himself and his wife to the powers that be in order to survive without prosecution, all guilt swept under the rug. They are thieving criminals, and thieving not as private citizens, but as professional stewards of public trust, money, and medical supplies to destroy lives and cause victims the worst physical and financial ruin, pain and suffering. Amnesty for McCain the POW stops as he is no longer a POW returned home. McCain as a senator becoming a president has proved his affinity for crime and ability to evade prosecution and deny American justice, granting amnesty where none is deserved and none is called for except to create a larger population of submissive participants in crime. Having returned to the USA following Nixon’s “honorable” withdrawal from Viet Nam, ex-POW McCain has since broken sworn alliegance to all but himself and his thieving second wife. Surely, Nixon was no crook as McCain is.

Shay on February 4, 2008 at 8:41 AM

Oh my, desperation seeps in.
So all of the voters in Florida were part of the conspiracy. All you need to do is to stop a couple of million people from voting for McCain, but then Connie thinks those couple of million have all struck a deal with the GOP.
It is open voting for whomever the majority want…Huckabee a plant, I don’t think so. Thompson a plant, I don’t think so. It is now down to two people, Mitt and McCain. The one with the most votes wins…unless you think several million people are meeting secretly with a Bush/McCain ninja group.

The War for the GOP

Connie on February 3, 2008 at 11:49 PM

Connie, thank you for this link. I have an aversion to conpiracy theorists and yet I’ve suspected that very thing since 2004. We know what Bush did to McCain in 2000. I know from long experience watching Arizona politics that McCain has a long, long memory and is a very unforgiving and vindictive person. So to see him supporting the Bush campaign in 2004 was a huge surprise. It was also a surprise to one of my Democrat relatives who liked McCain. We both surmised a deal had been made for the 2008 election.

If it’s true, then the RNC is going to do everything in its power to engineer the primary votes and if they fail in that, to engineer the convention. The will to fight back against amnesty last year shows that they can be overcome. But the energy doesn’t seem to be there now.

Fred running third party, instead of Mitt, would be OK too, I just don’t think that Fred would have the resources. For any chance of success it would have to be as a third party
I was a Fred supporter. His obvious lack of spirit and fight (giving up WAY too early in the primary process) gives me concern.

As President, we need a FIGHTER ! (i.e., Mitt ?)

Stop wasting our time with third party nonesense. The only way a “third party” ever can work, is when you take and morph one of the big two, into something else: our like the GOP has been working on: morph it into the other (Dem) party.

But third party candidacies are only externalizations of mental illness on the part of its constituents. There is little I agree about with Michael Medved these days, but I do on third party “losertarian” candidacies.

Forget about it. It may feel good at the time, but trust me (as Rush would say: “Don’t Doubt Me”)…it is only mental illness kicking in.

Fight it. Fight it. Take a pill. Attend a meeting. Whatever you need to do. But forget this third party nonesense.

Again, I love your enthusiam, but that ain’t gonna happen. If Fred had enough votes to do that, he’d still be in the race. McCain is winning because of name recognition. If the Base rallies around Mitt, and he is nominated, he WILL have name rec too. Mitt can beat Hillary, but McCain will lose like our last name rec candidate, Bob Dole.

Tony737 on February 4, 2008 at 1:06 AM
I disagree. The GOP voters are depressed and the Democrat voters are extremely energized. I don’t see either Mitt or McCain defeating either Hillary or Obama. Not a chance. Mitt does not have enough people energized to rally around him and McCain is basically a liberal socialist in the GOP. When it comes to making a decision between the GOP and Democrats, if there is no real distinction, people are going to choose the Democrats for a “change”.

The key to any Republican chance in November — and I believe that there is a good chance under one scenario — is what we can call the “Harriet Miers Factor” (or “Immigration Amnesty” – or “Dubai Ports” if you please).

Conservatives did not lose in Nov ’06: They surrendered on behalf of a party that was not (is not) representing their values, goals and interests. But they (we) CAN rally to a cause when we need to.

McCain vs. Hillary (or McCain vs. Obama) is NOT such a cause, and every real conservative out there knows it.

But – and this is a big BUT, which will only play out if Romney pulls out of this thing, and gets the nomination: Like with a cause such as Harriet Miers, or Shamnesty, we can pull together to beat Hillathing in November if it is NOT behind McCain.

Fred running third party, instead of Mitt, would be OK too, I just don’t think that Fred would have the resources. For any chance of success it would have to be as a third party

I was a Fred supporter. His obvious lack of spirit and fight (giving up WAY too early in the primary process) gives me concern.

As President, we need a FIGHTER ! (i.e., Mitt ?)

Agreed, but really, let’s be honest. I think the reason people didn’t get behind Fred is bcause he looked like he was about to croak. Sorry, no disrespect, I liked the guy and would have proudly voted for him in the generals, but man, he looked like he was about to keel over dead and I think that turned people off.

Tony737 on February 4, 2008 at 1:39 AM

Hard to argue, except to say that McCain has both the look and the temperament of Grandpa Simpson.

Things that make you go hmmm

Big S on February 4, 2008 at 2:06 AM

So I take it once again NH SC IA Fl wins mean more then winning in the largest state in the union {just like they down played Maine Wyoming Nevada and Michigan } and it should be seen for what it is. In a closed primary a neighboring state refuses to jump on the talk out of his a$$ express.

I am sure they will down play it in the rush to crown McLame the winner.

To be sure, the candidates’ staffs do seem to have bonded in their dislike of Romney. “It was very common for e-mails to be flying around between the Thompson, McCain and Giuliani campaigns,” says the former Thompson staffer, “Saying, ‘No matter what happens with us, we all need to make sure it’s not him.’” The staffer says that campaigns would share opposition research on Romney and offer each other tips on how best to undermine him: “Like, ‘Hey, I saw you hit Mitt on immigration – have you thought about going after him on this issue?” In some cases, the attitude even extends to the top of the campaigns. The night of the Iowa caucuses, after getting a congratulatory call from McCain, Huckabee told the candidate, according to aides: “Now it’s your turn to kick his butt.”

The article brings up a very good reason for Mitt to be the nominee. He’s been playing 4 on 1 since the campaign began and he’s still in the game. He’s also been the most scrutinized by the MSM. John McCain has gotten to where he is today largely by being given a pass by his opponents and the MSM. Romney has already survived a barrage of attacks by his Republican opponents, the MSM, attacks on his religion and he is now in first place in California. How did he do it? By promoting conservative values, and conservative principles.

The conservative message still resonates with the American people because they are by and large conservative. They believe in the rule of law, lower taxes, strengthening families and WINNING the war against global jihadists. The only reason McCain is ahead right now has nothing to do with his record, or his message. He is up because even to this day 30% of voters are undecided, which means 30% of voters are grossly uninformed. They vote for whoever their local paper tells them to vote for, or whoever they hear say something nice on the news the night before the election. This is not just a battle for the heart and soul of the Republican party – it’s a battle between ignorance and information.

May the best conservative win.

I told them they were calling the wrong people, as both my husband and I had requested the RNC not call us again because we were angry with them. I told the guy that if Romney gets the nomination we’d mail a cheque to the RNC. I said I was tired of the party changing and not being Republican any more. (I also cataloged an abbreviated list of McCain’s faux pas).

The guy said to me, “Ma’am I understand; a lot of people aren’t happy with John McCain”. I thought, ha! So maybe other people are saying similar things.

The upshot? They’re sending me a letter so ‘if’ Mitt gets the nod, we can send them a cheque.

Interesting, nes ce pas? An RNC calling blabbing that he knows lots of people aren’t happy with McCain? Maybe someone is getting an earful…

Yes, I know, but what about Hillary? Well, that’s the whole point. Why are we even worrying about Hillary if what we are fighting her with is so weak and self-destructive?

TexasJew on February 4, 2008 at 1:51 AM

Yes, it is like we are going out on the battlefield to meet the enemy and with Generalissimo Juan we have our guns aimed at ourselves.

Then WE’LL all be in Hell..

They CAN all go to hell.

Domino on February 4, 2008 at 2:15 AM

One can always hope.

Rudy is nothing to me now.
Huckabee never was.
John McCain is a creep. I can’t have a creep for my President.
As far as the campaign staff comments they call all go to hell.