Rasmussen national poll: Mitt 30, McCain 30, Huckabee 21; Update: “Battle for the future of the party”; Update: McCain 44, Mitt 24, says Gallup

posted at 1:06 pm on February 2, 2008 by Allahpundit

See-Dub’s search for reasons to climb down off the ledge has taken him to strange hallucinatory places that only the diehard Fredhead knows, so let’s give him something a bit more reality-based. 30-30-21, a two-point gain for Mitt from the day before although he and Maverick have been bouncing around within a few points of each other for the past week. How to square this with Fox News’s suicide poll yesterday? Gallup has it 39-24, more in line with FNC than with Ramussen, but the national polls mean less than the state polls anyway so let’s look at those instead. There’s cause for hope in California, but otherwise, er…

I’m hoping Mitt has some surprise endorsements lined up for Monday although I can’t think of anyone so big that they might turn the tide. It’s safe to say no Republican governors will be among them. George H.W. Bush would be nice, as would Condi Rice, but neither’s in the offing. The best hope is for some sort of coordinated effort by talk radio to all endorse him on the same day: Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingraham, etc etc. That’d make for a sweet headline on Tuesday morning as people go to vote, but then that gets us back to their dilemma: If they pull the trigger and McCain wins anyway, they’ll never live it down. The media won’t let them.

Update: MM highlights the Times’s account of Romney’s last-ditch strategy:

Operating in survival mode, Mr. Romney’s circle of advisers has come up with a detailed road map to try to salvage his campaign. The plan is complete with a new infusion of cash from Mr. Romney, a long-term strategy intended to turn the campaign into a protracted delegate fight and a reframing of the race as a one-on-one battle for the future of the party that seeks to sound the alarm among conservatives about Mr. McCain.

The advisers have drawn up a list of states, dividing and ranking them into those considered relatively easy and inexpensive targets, along with a broader grouping of more costly battlegrounds where the advisers hope that Mr. Romney can be competitive.

Remember, he outspent McCain 10 to one on ads in Florida.

Update: Oy. That’s a five-point pick-up for Maverick in 24 hours and 12 points since Florida.


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I don’t know who the we is well yes i do the msm the open boarder shills , the establishment moderate rinos . But they sure in the hell don’t speak for me.

Mojack420 on February 2, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Mojack they don’t speak for me either. I thought that Fred Thompson was the only reasonable candidate in the race and he got sandbagged by the MSM because I think he was their worst nightmare. As far as Arizona is concerned Romney may well beat McCain. There are a lot of LDS in Arizona.

duff65 on February 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Mojack420 on February 2, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Your hate-filled rhetoric notwithstanding: McCain on Border Security

As president, I will secure the border. I will restore the trust Americans should have in the basic competency of their government. A secure border is an essential element of our national security. Tight border security includes not just the entry and exit of people, but also the effective screening of cargo at our ports and other points of entry.But a secure border will contribute to addressing our immigration problem most effectively if we also:

Recognize the importance of building strong allies in Mexico and Latin America who reject the siren call of authoritarians like Hugo Chavez, support freedom and democracy, and seek strong domestic economies with abundant economic opportunities for their citizens.

Recognize the importance of pro-growth policies — keeping government spending in check, holding down taxes, and cutting unnecessary regulatory burdens — so American businesses can hire and pay the best.

Recognize the importance of a flexible labor market to keep employers in business and our economy on top. It should provide skilled Americans and immigrants with opportunity. Our education system should ensure skills for our younger workers, and our retraining and assistance programs for displaced workers must be modernized so they can pursue those opportunities

Recognize the importance of assimilation of our immigrant population, which includes learning English, American history and civics, and respecting the values of a democratic society.

Recognize that America will always be that “shining city upon a hill,” a beacon of hope and opportunity for those seeking a better life built on hard work and optimism.
Border security and our failed immigration system are more examples of an ailing Washington culture in need of reform to regain the trust of Americans. In too many areas — from immigration and pork barrel spending to Social Security, health care, energy security and tax relief — business-as-usual politics prevents addressing the important challenges facing our nation.

I understand there are some legitimate concerns about McCain, as a long time Dittohead, I have them too. But in the best interest of my country, I’m willing to wipe the slate clean and give him the benefit of the doubt and a second chance.

myamphibian on February 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM

duff65 on February 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM

I thought Fred had the best message for the conservatives but I gained a new found respect for mitt when I saw him weather the dog pile attacks during the debates in NH. He didn’t get all excited he sat there and took it in stride and answered back. What would McLame have done if everyone jumped on him for his BS??? He would scream I am a war hero and you are not. YOU WILL Respect my athoritah

Mojack420 on February 2, 2008 at 3:40 PM

I understand there are some legitimate concerns about McCain, as a long time Dittohead, I have them too. But in the best interest of my country, I’m willing to wipe the slate clean and give him the benefit of the doubt and a second chance.
myamphibian on February 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM

I would be willing to give a second chance also. In this case however I think you are asking for a fifth or sixth chance.

duff65 on February 2, 2008 at 3:42 PM

I’m willing to wipe the slate clean and give him the benefit of the doubt and a second chance.

myamphibian on February 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM

I’d rather struggle through 4 years of Obama to get to a conservative ala through Carter to get Mr. R.

Onager on February 2, 2008 at 3:43 PM

But in the best interest of my country, I’m willing to wipe the slate clean and give him the benefit of the doubt and a second chance.

The electorate has a responsibility to hold the elected accountable. What you are advocating is not “the best interest of country”, it is the best interest of self.

I’m not trying to tell you how to vote, but wiping the slate “clean” serves no one except to alleviate your own conscience when you vote.

Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 3:46 PM

myamphibian on February 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Wow I can fertilize a few fields with the BS right there.

If he was being honest, why in the hell dose he employ the open boarder pushing pos Juan Hernandez? I’m sorry your a bold faced liar McLame and you have earned by your actions the contempt and hatred I have for you.

Mojack420 on February 2, 2008 at 3:47 PM

I’d rather struggle through 4 years of Obama to get to a conservative ala through Carter to get Mr. R.

Onager on February 2, 2008 at 3:43 PM

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Again people said that in 1992 that they would take 4 years of Bill Clinton then vote him out in 1996. It didnt happen and we almost got a gore presidency.

Thats one huge gamble to take. Because the dems will enact every law they can to keep their majority. Votes for Felons and illegals no ID needed !

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM

I want to know exactly to whom these questions and polls are being posed. I want to know more than who they “like,” I want an individual breakdown of their stance on the issues. Independents wrecking our party has gone far enough.

Anyone who hasn’t been living under a rock for the past, say, quarter century knows McCain is not, by any reasonable standard, a “conservative.” He’s not even a Rockefeller Republican – he’s a Democrat.

If we’re really willing to sell ourselves to McCain, because we think he’s “electable,” then you’d better be prepared for some more Clinton scandals.

emailnuevo on February 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Border security and our failed immigration system are more examples of an ailing Washington culture in need of reform to regain the trust of Americans. In too many areas — from immigration and pork barrel spending to Social Security, health care, energy security and tax relief — business-as-usual politics prevents addressing the important challenges facing our nation.

myamphibian on February 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM

McCain is asking us not to vote for him! The guy has been in Washington for decades. What has he done on any of the issues he cites?

Not only did he screw up Immigration “reform”, he screwed up campaign finance “reform”, he was the deciding vote in killing ANWR which would have helped our energy security, he voted against tax relief, and so forth.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM

I don’t see either of them as king makers. I see them more as people who articulate conservative ideas and help voters focus on those principles.

In the process they help the Republican Party even if their candidates don’t always win, but their loyalty to the Party is dependent on that core conservatism.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 3:13 PM

I agree they are a type of conservative before they are Republicans. The issue for the next couple of weeks is whether they have a veto on a candidate (McCain) who falls ouside the bounds of their definition of conservative.

Rergardless their shows will continue to be educational and entertaining. At question will be how influential those shows are within the Republican party. It isn’t all or nothing, but a Coulter-style abandonment of the GOP would diminish their future influence with GOP politicians–though not with their core audience.

dedalus on February 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM

Again people said that in 1992 that they would take 4 years of Bill Clinton then vote him out in 1996. It didnt happen and we almost got a gore presidency.

Thats one huge gamble to take. Because the dems will enact every law they can to keep their majority. Votes for Felons and illegals no ID needed !

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM

then we get what we deserve. Frankly if we’re going to nominate a democrat-in-BSclothing I’d much rather help elect a real Demorcrat and not spend my time defending an absolutely unprincipled con man, aka McCain.

Onager on February 2, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Recognize the importance of assimilation of our immigrant population, which includes learning English, American history and civics, and respecting the values of a democratic society.

myamphibian on February 2, 2008 at 3:37 PM

One of the most important values in a democratic society is the rule of law.

Rewarding tens of millions of lawbreaking foreigners with instant “Z” visas, or amnesty (or a “path to citizenship,” or whichever of McCain’s euphemisms you prefer) undermines the rule of law. It is idiotic public policy to reward people for breaking the law. It only serves to guarantee that millions more people will break the law in the future, in the expectation that they, too, will be rewarded. We gave amnesty to 3 million lawbreakers in 1986, and now we have more than 20 million anticipating the next amnesty. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting to get a different result. We will never stop illegal immigration — or the contempt for our laws that it inspires — until we stop rewarding it.

McCain refuses to recognize these simple truths.

AZCoyote on February 2, 2008 at 3:54 PM

then we get what we deserve. Frankly if we’re going to nominate a democrat-in-BSclothing I’d much rather help elect a real Demorcrat and not spend my time defending an absolutely unprincipled con man, aka McCain.

Onager on February 2, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Well gotta love that rational. McCain is a sell out so hey lets be even BIGGER SELLOUTS and give the democrats everything ! That will show em !

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 3:55 PM

McCain won’t win the general election. Period. No way.

We lose, either way.

stenwin77 on February 2, 2008 at 3:57 PM

Oahhhh Interesting

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080202/ap_on_el_pr/campaign_rdp

In Tennessee, McCain made a pitch for the supporters of campaign dropout Fred Thompson, a former Tennessee senator. “He is a fine man. I had the distinct pleasure and honor of sitting next, my desk right next to Fred Thompson for eight years in the United States Senate,” he said. Thompson has not endorsed any of the remaining candidates.

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM

Well gotta love that rational. McCain is a sell out so hey lets be even BIGGER SELLOUTS and give the democrats everything ! That will show em !
William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 3:55 PM

I would agree with you except for one thing. Mitt can probably win the general election and he doesn’t give much away. So lets go with the more reasonable candidate.

duff65 on February 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM

The polls underline that McCain at the very least would have a fighting chance to fend off a Democratic take over of all three branches of government at a time of peril to the Republicans’ basic political viability.

With McCain in the White House, the Democrats will not only have control of all three branches of government, they will also have control of the Republican Party itself.

Second Look at Juan Hernandez for GOP Chairman!

Watcher on February 2, 2008 at 4:03 PM

And all the talk now about securing the boarder doesn’t undo all the actions of McLair when he has done the exact opposite.

he doesn’t want to actually debate the issue of his past actions or else he wouldn’t throw out the straw man defense about the solider who died in Iraq and he wouldn’t deport his illegal wife or this one just slays me ” they are gods children “ come on lets be real God has an immigration policy too and just because we are all his children dose not mean we all get into heaven.

No one forced these people to sneak in. They choose to break our laws and excusing them is amnesty no matter how you slice it or try to shield yourself from being held accountable for you’re past actions. If your going to try and tug on my heart strings don’t try doing it with god , I understand that whole free will thing .

Talk is real cheep when your past actions speak volumes about your true motivation.

You try to talk the talk but you fail to walk the walk when its time.

so once again i have to say “dont piss on my back and tell me its just rain”

Mojack420 on February 2, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Well gotta love that rational. McCain is a sell out so hey lets be even BIGGER SELLOUTS and give the democrats everything ! That will show em !

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 3:55 PM

Doesn’t a vote for any of them mean you support non-enforcement of federal law? Kind of a slippery slope for such an important concept, isn’t it?

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Wow, the calls and candidates are coming in fast and furious to St. Louis. I’m getting phone calls and emails. Here’s what I’ve been told by volunteers today asking for my vote:

Hillary will be at the Machinist’s Hall on the Rock Road tomorrow, speaking at 11 am, doors open at 10 am, and she will be taking questions.

Mitt will be at Dave ‘n Busters, arriving sometime between 5:30 and 8:30, doors open at 4:25, don’t know exact time or whether he’ll be taking questions.

JustTruth101 on February 2, 2008 at 4:06 PM

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM

It’s just a matter of timing. After Rudy and Ted Olsen showed their colors, there is no reason to trust any of them.

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Go Mitt!

JellyToast on February 2, 2008 at 4:13 PM

I would agree with you except for one thing. Mitt can probably win the general election and he doesn’t give much away. So lets go with the more reasonable candidate.

duff65 on February 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Actually the reverse is true

Rasmussen Mitt’s like/disike numbers

MITT ROMNEY (R)

12/13/07 19% Definitely Vote For/ 47% Definitely Vote Against/ 27% Depends

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Actually the reverse is true
William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 4:14 PM

What good is a December poll? At that point McCain didn’t have a chance. If you have any faith in polls you need a subscription to the Literary Digest. If they had been right it might have spared us almost 16 years of FDR.

duff65 on February 2, 2008 at 4:23 PM

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Ouch! Negatives on par with Hillary. Talk about Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory

myamphibian on February 2, 2008 at 4:29 PM

AZCoyote on February 2, 2008 at 3:54 PM

You saved me a LOT of typing. Thanks. But I need to vent anyway.

McCain’s bumper sticker, “You can’t do it, my friends (i. e., American citizens)”, says everything I need to know about the man. That is the most unpatriotic, insulting, ethnocentricic piece of crap I have ever heard. And when his buddy Graham called ME a bigot in front of the racist La Raza convention, he lost me forever.

Last Summer, McCain and Kennedy plotted in secret to foist on America the biggest giveaway in history with the most deceptive tactic: sneaking in a change to the waiting period for a Z visa from the 2006 version of 90 days to the cynical one business day in 2007, in a 1000+ page bill that had a generous 36 hour review period. That alone was a giant middle finger to all American citizens and would-be immigrants patiently waiting in line.

Perfidy. Treachery. Any way you look at it.

Look what four American state legislatures have done to counter what McCain, Kennedy, Bush, et al, have been pushing. And at least two of those states have Democrat governors who signed the laws. And many more states right behind them. Just in Utah this past month alone:

Since the opening of the 2008 session on Jan. 21, Utah legislators have discussed around a dozen measures that would dramatically curb rights for illegal immigrants in this non-border state,

Wake up, voters. McCain is trying to give away your country to foreign invaders – no exaggeration.

fred5678 on February 2, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Its quite Obvious that Rasputan’s number are the outliar.

Real Clear Politics Republican Presidential Nomination

Fox News has McCain up +28 and Gallup has McCain up +20

Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 4:33 PM

Rasputin* even..

Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 4:34 PM

With McCain in the White House, the Democrats will not only have control of all three branches of government, they will also have control of the Republican Party itself

That presumes that having control of the Republican Party is worth something. Who needs a permanent minority party run by self-immolating zealots? You couldn’t sell it on eBay at starting bid $0.95.

CK MacLeod on February 2, 2008 at 4:35 PM

then we get what we deserve. Frankly if we’re going to nominate a democrat-in-BSclothing I’d much rather help elect a real Demorcrat and not spend my time defending an absolutely unprincipled con man, aka McCain.

Onager on February 2, 2008 at 3:54 PM

Well gotta love that rational. McCain is a sell out so hey lets be even BIGGER SELLOUTS and give the democrats everything ! That will show em !

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 3:55 PM

I think the guy’s point was why waste time finishing this country’s turn to communism – let’s just go ahead and git ‘er done.

mksmithwriter on February 2, 2008 at 4:37 PM

At question will be how influential those shows are within the Republican party.

dedalus on February 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM

If McCain is elected his feet will be to the fire on conservative issues because of talk radio so in that sense they will continue to have influence.

As for Ann Coulter, the prospect of her campaigning for Hillary is very entertaining. Can you imagine how far and fast Hillary would run from that? While Ann was out there touting Hillary’s creds on the Iraq War, Hillary would be claiming she wasn’t really for it. It would be comedy gold.

I think she is largely making a satirical point and shouldn’t be taken too seriously on these things.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Hmmmm. That Rasmeussen poll sure seems a little off of the political buzz that I’m feeling.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 4:41 PM

If McCain is elected his feet will be to the fire on conservative issues because of talk radio so in that sense they will continue to have influence.

As for Ann Coulter, the prospect of her campaigning for Hillary is very entertaining. Can you imagine how far and fast Hillary would run from that? While Ann was out there touting Hillary’s creds on the Iraq War, Hillary would be claiming she wasn’t really for it. It would be comedy gold.

I think she is largely making a satirical point and shouldn’t be taken too seriously on these things.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Those mad Obama voters would point to Ann Coulter’s support for Hillary as a way of not supporting hillary..

See it’s all evens out.

Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 4:41 PM

McCain ENDORSES…..

MITT ROMNEY!!!!!

(I know this is oldBUT it SHOULD BE A COMMERCIAL!! NOW. FOR SUPER TUESDAY!)

Ex-tex on February 2, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Someone needs to ask McCain just what is it he has led? Everyone who endorces McCain calls him a great leader. Do they mean how he led in violating the 1st amendment with McCain-Finegold campaign finance reform? Led in offering the equivilant of amnesty with McCain-Kennedy, which they tried to sneak in the back door? If McCain is such a great leader, why is it he does not lead Senate Republicans? Beside, look into his eyes and say he is not insane.

Zelsdorf Ragshaft on February 2, 2008 at 4:44 PM

Hmmmm. That Rasmeussen poll sure seems a little off of the political buzz that I’m feeling.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Per that Fox News poll IF it were only between McCain and Mitt
this would be the results..

McCain Republicans 62% Independents 60%
Romney Republicans 29% Independents 21%

Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Ex-tex, nice that someone is a team player.

Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 4:47 PM

Mitt needs a new TV-AD team.

His commercials lack PUNCH/EMOTION/POWER.

His attacks ads need to stress that McCain’s “MAVERICKNESS” means “anti-conservative/anti-GOP” – and that McCain is old, unhealthy and emotionally unstable.

reliapundit on February 2, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 4:46 PM

FOXnews LIES and manipulates data all the time.

Ex-tex on February 2, 2008 at 4:51 PM

As for Ann Coulter, the prospect of her campaigning for Hillary is very entertaining. Can you imagine how far and fast Hillary would run from that? While Ann was out there touting Hillary’s creds on the Iraq War, Hillary would be claiming she wasn’t really for it. It would be comedy gold.

I think she is largely making a satirical point and shouldn’t be taken too seriously on these things.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 4:37 PM

You’re on fire today, BD! I would dearly love to watch the spectacle of Ann’s “campaign” for Hillary. Why it’s fashionable to dump on Ann, I will never understand. Maybe the education system in this country, slowly and surely being engulfed by the Marxist Leftists, has squelched appreciation for sublime humour from folks who are otherwise earnest conservatives.

RushBaby on February 2, 2008 at 4:52 PM

Mitt needs a new TV-AD team.

reliapundit on February 2, 2008 at 4:51 PM

I agree. All the ads I’m hearing in Georgia are contrasting him with Hillary Clinton.

I don’t agree that he should point out how old Mac is, but it wouldn’t hurt to point out what an unreliable loose cannon he is.

RushBaby on February 2, 2008 at 4:52 PM

Glad you appreciate my perspective :-)

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 5:11 PM

I think she is largely making a satirical point and shouldn’t be taken too seriously on these things.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 4:37 PM

That is usually where conversations about Coulter’s comments end up–she’s satirical, she’s tweaking the media, don’t take her seriously. She’s more performance artist than pundit.

dedalus on February 2, 2008 at 5:12 PM

I would dearly love to watch the spectacle of Ann’s “campaign” for Hillary.

I’m sure it all works very well for her at the parties she attends on the arm of her rich liberal Democrat boyfriend (or has there been news on that “item”?).

CK MacLeod on February 2, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Remember, he outspent McCain 10 to one on ads in Florida

This sums it up for me. He’s spending 10 to 1 and cant beat McCain, who is loathed by so much of the base.

I’ll probably vote Obama in the primary. =p

Dash on February 2, 2008 at 5:44 PM

I’M WITH MITT!!!

I won’t vote for Benedict McCain just to save the White House. I don’t compromise my positions for any reason… and Bush gave all true Conseratives reason not to trust someone with a forked tongue.

madmonkphotog on February 2, 2008 at 5:46 PM

God has an immigration policy too and just because we are all his children does not mean we all get into heaven.
Mojack420 on February 2, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Wow! I never thought of that. That’s very nearly profound!. Thanks!

LegendHasIt on February 2, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Let’s see if we get Stupid Tuesday and choose McLame for the nominee.

McCain’s Mutiny!

Mojave Mark on February 2, 2008 at 5:49 PM

God has an immigration policy too and just because we are all his children does not mean we all get into heaven. Mojack420 on February 2, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Excellent point. AND we’re not all treated the same once we get there. Some get a better reward than others based on their lives here on earth. Sounds almost capitalistic huh?

BTW McCain, God’s chosen way to destroy a culture is multilingualism. Get it?

Mojave Mark on February 2, 2008 at 5:53 PM

I’m sure it all works very well for her at the parties she attends on the arm of her rich liberal Democrat boyfriend (or has there been news on that “item”?).

CK MacLeod on February 2, 2008 at 5:44 PM

OOOOOOH! I may have to rethink my p.o.v. on Coulter.

/sarc

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Here’s the details of the tabloid gossip for ya:

October 25, 2007 — ANN Coulter – who might be more despised than Dick Cheney in some neighborhoods – riled up some enemies even more with her recent remarks on “The Big Idea With Donny Deutsch” over how Jews could “perfect” themselves by becoming Christians. While the leggy blonde was dining with Andrew Stein at Centolire on Madison Avenue the other night, a wild-eyed man came up to their table and shouted at Coulter for her right-wing views and at Stein for dating her. Stein told the heckler, “Listen pal, get lost and learn some manners!” The lifelong Democrat, who was City Council president before he quit politics, told Page Six, “On the issue of her supposedly anti-Semitic remarks, I’m a Jew, and Joe Lieberman is her favorite Democrat. While I disagree with her on a lot of issues, she is a strong supporter of Israel and doesn’t have an anti-Semitic bone in her body.”

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 6:09 PM

OOOOOOH! I may have to rethink my p.o.v. on Coulter.

Take heart, AnnFanboys, I’m sure that the self-appointed arbitrix of conservative purity will drop her donkey boy for the first right-winger whose condemnation of John McCain is sufficiently full-throated and spittle-beflecked. Have at it!

CK MacLeod on February 2, 2008 at 6:57 PM

Sorry, AP, endorsements from Bush 41 and especially Rice would make me go in the opposite direction. Rice is desperately trying to create a new terrorist state. She is a huge disappointment, and thoroughgoing dhimmi.

Surak on February 2, 2008 at 7:03 PM

There are Americans who do not approve of the idea that a multi-millionaire or billionaire can effectively buy himself the Presidency of the United States. Mitt is not the only one with big bucks. Others with less integrity are observing his every move, planning their own future bid.

maverick muse on February 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM

Who votes polls?

Except pimps like the Clintons?

profitsbeard on February 2, 2008 at 7:18 PM

CK MacLeod on February 2, 2008 at 6:57 PM

I don’t know about you, but I never wanted to vote for my boyfriends.

It’s hope you don’t support McCain because it would be quite ironic if you support the consummate reach across the aisle and screw my own party guy, but disapprove of personal relationships which are not sufficiently loyal to the Party Apparatchik.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 7:22 PM

Thats one huge gamble to take. Because the dems will enact every law they can to keep their majority. Votes for Felons and illegals no ID needed !

William Amos on February 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Tell me again how that differs from McShamnesty allowing 20 million more dems into the country? I will vote dem to stick it to McCain. If you want to forgive and forget that’s your call, but many of us are unwilling to be lied to then laughed at by McCain while he screws us again. No Thanks.

jwp1964 on February 2, 2008 at 7:24 PM

So McCain won more medals than Audie Murphy for the “heroism” of being shot down?

The more you look at his “heroics” the shabbier this “war hero” looks.

Write in, 2008.

If McVain doesn’t get caught on his b.s. this Tuesday.

profitsbeard on February 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM

CK MacLeod on February 2, 2008 at 6:57 PM

P.S. lest you misconstrue, I am not a fanboy.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Sorry, no forgiveness for anyone on this blog who votes Democrat unless ye repents when it all begins to fall apart.

CliffHanger on February 2, 2008 at 7:45 PM

What would McLame do if everyone jumped on him…?

duh. Everyone IS jumping on him.

If Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. endorse Mitt & McCain wins anyway, the media won’t let them live it down

Like I said yesterday, Rush does what’s good for Rush.

jgapinoy on February 2, 2008 at 7:51 PM

et-tex-

Be nice if Romney ran that pro-Mitt, McCain endorsement ad the next few days.

Opening with:

Let’s hear what John McCain says about Mitt Romney…”

And end:

Romney For President.

profitsbeard on February 2, 2008 at 8:27 PM

Sorry, no forgiveness for anyone on this blog who votes Democrat unless ye repents when it all begins to fall apart.

CliffHanger on February 2, 2008 at 7:45 PM

I don’t know that anyone is entertaining that idea.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM

Sorry, no forgiveness for anyone on this blog who votes Democrat unless ye repents when it all begins to fall apart.

CliffHanger on February 2, 2008 at 7:45 PM

You’ll need to do the repenting and begging to get us back…or nominate a real conservative in 2012 otherwise you can continue to look at our big middle finger. Nominate McShamnesty and enjoy Hillary, reward for backing MShamnesty. You and the others know our stance, we;re not hiding the ball…nominate McLiar and we walk…you live with your choice.

jwp1964 on February 2, 2008 at 8:47 PM

Mitt won the Maine caucus. What’s that old expression?:

As Maine goes, so goes the nation. :)

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 8:59 PM

I thought the Main caucus was some weird three day event where all of the delegates are unpledged anyway. Anybody know more about this?

Deety on February 2, 2008 at 9:21 PM

hope you don’t support McCain because it would be quite ironic if you support the consummate reach across the aisle and screw my own party guy, but disapprove of personal relationships which are not sufficiently loyal to the Party Apparatchik.

No, what or who Ann Coulter does is of no importance to me. I’m more interested in those whom she manages to stir up under the obviously mistaken impression that she’s any less a hypocrite than many of the people she has pretended to judge.

CK MacLeod on February 2, 2008 at 9:23 PM

Nevermind. Found the Headline

Deety on February 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM

under the obviously mistaken impression that she’s any less a hypocrite than many of the people she has pretended to judge.

You’re skating on thin ice there, Spanky. She’s a hypocrite because she dates a jewish liberal? I don’t ever remember Ann giving dating advice nor do I ever remember her telling anyone to hate. Your inability to comprehend sarcastic humor or passionate debate leads you to break things down into the simplest denominators. You must believe that disagreement must then = hatred. Lack of nuance or subtlety? Definitely a liberal trait. No wonder you are a mccain voter. He oozes both hatred and liberalism.

peacenprosperity on February 2, 2008 at 9:50 PM

She’s a hypocrite because she dates a jewish liberal

His religion is your concern, not mine, p & p. I wouldn’t stoop to bring it up. Her personal conduct and morality is only an issue because she has so frequently made an issue of her perceptions regarding the personal conduct and morality of her political opponents. Otherwise, like you, I also don’t recall her ever telling anyone to hate. That would be an odd instruction, wouldn’t it? “Please go hate.” No, in this one and only regard she’s fairly subtle. She merely goes out of her way to inspire hatred and to conduct herself in a hateful manner, all the while living the life and now even promising to support the candidate of the people she pretends to despise.

CK MacLeod on February 3, 2008 at 1:30 AM

Her personal conduct and morality is only an issue

You know nothing of her personal conduct and morality. What an arrogant statement.

peacenprosperity on February 3, 2008 at 7:04 AM

To peacenprosperity,

It really ironic that CK MacLeod is accusing Ann C. of being a hypocrite when at the same time he is blatantly supporting McShamnesty, yet, at the same blogging that about the fact that uncontrolled immigration is what eventually collapse the Roman empire.

To wit, from his blog:
Dated: December 15, 2007
Titled: Empires Rising and Falling

I’m almost surprised that in all of the discussion of illegal immigration, I haven’t yet seen someone attempt to use, or perhaps misuse, Peter Heather’s THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE, which sums up the last few generations of archaeological and historical research to overthrow widespread beliefs about what finally brought the Empire of the West to an end.

Not financial mismanagement and overstretch,
not moral decline and decadence,
not the disorder and violence of periodic succession crises always on the brink of civil war,
not the softening of old Roman brutality and cruelty under the establishment of Christianity,
not military attack and competition by powers like the Huns and Persians – though all of these played their roles –

but, rather, uncontrolled immigration appears to Heather to have been the key:

He then further expands on this here:

[I]t is impossible to escape the fact that the western Empire broke up because too many outside groups established themselves on its territories and expanded their holdings by warfare.

Or…

[T]he Roman state became its own worst enemy. Its military power and financial sophistication both hastened the process whereby streams of incomers became coherent forces capable of carving out kingdoms from its own body politic.
…..
….
The Inca Empire was also destroyed by outsiders, but the denouement, as described in Kim McQuarrie’s THE LAST DAYS OF THE INCAS, struck me as altogether displeasing, in fact as rather relentlessly ugly – the destruction of one cruel and brutal ruling elite (the Incas) by an even more cruel and brutal would-be elite (the Conquistadors). One observation stood out for me amidst the frequently fascinating but ultimately alienating tale of depravity, torture, greed, megalomania, and combat as desperate as it was unequal:

(Conquest… had little to do with adventure, but rather had everything to do with groups of men willing to do just about anything in order to avoid working for a living.)

I’m not saying I buy it – but there’s an element of truth to the statement. I think McQuarrie’s book rather effectively reports a fuller context.

The problem with hypocrites is that they are very lazy. Which is why they are also so easy too expose.

I’ve often said this:
“Hypocrisy is the lazy man’s sin, because, at some point, they are required to take a principled stand, and whatever hypocrisy is, it’s not standing on principle. Rather it’s taking the easy way out.”

P.S. I’ve screen capped his blog and stored it here for posterity.

Enjoy.

Mcguyver on February 3, 2008 at 11:40 AM

LOL – I’m pleased as punch that anyone bothered to read those comments, and don’t expect ever to be embarrassed by those screen captures unless someone happens to discover weaknesses in my prose style.

I’ll just say that, in short, the situation of the Roman Empire ca. 400 AD and of the US in the present day show some interesting parallels, as noted, but it ends there, in my opinion – which is why I spoke of the potential misuse of Heather’s conclusions.

Just so you know, the Roman Empire did pretty well for generations trading with, assimilating, subduing, and on occasion accepting infusions of population from the barbarian tribes that surrounded its borders. Without such a policy, it never would have lasted twice as long (or, in the East, around seven times as long) as our republic has been in existence, while expanding beyond its technical abilities to administer the territory.

However, when rampaging and pillaging armies of indigenous Central Americans cut a swath of destruction from El Paso to Chicago, then proceed East, capture Manhattan, and deny its trade, tax income, and general use permanently to the rest of the country, we can re-visit the issue!

Also, it’s not a political blog, but rather an amusement blog, attached to a business I run. Those of you heading there for further enlightenment may be disappointed – but feel free to drop me a line if you’re interested in movie posters and other collectibles!

CK MacLeod on February 3, 2008 at 12:37 PM

CK Macleod,
Again you are demonstrating your laziness with the fundamental facts and prinicples.
The fact that you laughed it off and declared it an amusement blog of yours speaks wonders, coupled with the fact that not even a shred of your response is a debate of the issue.
Suggesting that we don’t need to discuss this until Central Americans invade Manhattan is far worse than a chicken out.
It displays your shilling for McCain because as others who support McShamesty you don’t care to stand on principle regarding immigration.

So for the record I’ll again attempt to have a debate here.

As quoted above:

Its military power and financial sophistication both hastened the process whereby streams of incomers became coherent forces capable of carving out kingdoms from its own body politic.

They don’t need a military army to invade.

By allowing illegals to come in unrestrained they increase their voting block and power.

Rewarding illegals with citizenship if they serve in the military is also an important issue regarding their gaining voting block power in favor of all things unrestrained immigration, which is what is at stake here.

With the size of our military needed to protect us, rewarding too many illegals citizenship for serving, is a pitfall in itself, which is what is referred to in the quote.

Our, financial sophistication can also be a cause for our downfall, when it is allowed to import so many illegals, that, if unrestrained will suck us dry.

That’s pretty simple stuff, not complicated at all.

Mcguyver on February 3, 2008 at 10:45 PM

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