Frum on McCain: “He is really trying to build a personal movement with the Republican party as its vehicle”
posted at 4:50 pm on February 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
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In this there’s much truth, although in hindsight the same could be said of Bush (which is reason enough to be wary of McCain). Is this a point that registers with rank and file Republicans, though? Bloggers and their readers see this through the bent lens of people who follow politics day in and out. What about the guy who knows McCain’s a “maverick,” disagrees with him on immigration, but doesn’t keep up closely enough to savor the little eruptions of antipathy towards conservative principles that occasionally fly off the Straight Talk Express? That, as much as his policies, is what adds spice to the anti-McCain animus and that’s what Frum is talking about here. “[H]e does not love this party, and the party knows it,” he says. Do they know it? Have you seen the polls, David? Click the image to watch.
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Support McCain, he will be the nominee…
He has promised border security first..
Lets ALL hold him to THAT!
We can get that accomplished.
IF he wants a 2nd term, we had better see real results.
Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 4:54 PM
I don’t like him but i will vote for him. Then I wont have to defend him if he does stupid liberal stuff. Point to him as not a true Republican.
Win Win Win on February 2, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Payback will be a beeyotch, Johnny Mac.
Greenhorn on February 2, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Actions speak louder then words
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Did Tucker Carlson just say he’s more conservative than John McCain? LOL.
terryannonline on February 2, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Truer words have never been spoken, David.
F Juan McVain…and F anyone that asks me to desert my principles for a backstabbing liberal RINO.
*Middle finger up in salute* THIS is for him…and THIS is for the horse he rode in on.
Principles before Party.
GOP no longer for me.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 5:00 PM
I’ll give you this: you’re persistent. Of course, that’s how communism succeeds so well.
The fallacy of your argument is one – just trust him to do what he says. Two, that the Dems in charge will allow him to do so.
Would you please listen to the guy – he claims he’ll close the border, while at the same time saying amnesty for the ones here. Same argument from the 80s – when he was also in the Senate.
No. No. Hell NO!
mksmithwriter on February 2, 2008 at 5:00 PM
How can I miss you if you won’t go away? Dobro, fiddle, and steel guitar in the background.
a capella on February 2, 2008 at 5:01 PM
I saw Frum’s interview last night on Tucker. And what really bothers me about so many on the right–who aren’t quite anti-McCain, nor are they pro-McCain–is that they seem to hold out hope that he’s going to come around to their, to our way of thinking. In other words, all of the sudden he’ll become a true conservative. These people act as if McCain’s a stock on Wall Street they’re not quite sure they should buy.
coffee260 on February 2, 2008 at 5:02 PM
In the unlikely event he wins the general, he’ll be a lame duck from day 1.
a capella on February 2, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Chakra, please just stuff a sock in it. You’re an unwelcome broken record at a party that already has a good band.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 5:04 PM
To him the Republican party is a vehicle. That absolutely nails it. But the same could have been said for Ike or Teddy, so that itself is not condemning. Therefore motive comes into play.
He sure did, and he sure is.
Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Winner of the thread.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 5:06 PM
@ Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 4:54 PM
I trust McCain to secure the border as much as I trust Hillary to pull out of Iraq. Candidates promise things they never plan on delivering during campaigns. Its what they do before the campaign that is a good indicator of their future actions.
muyoso on February 2, 2008 at 5:07 PM
What he said :-)
TOPV on February 2, 2008 at 5:09 PM
He has no intention of going two terms. Look to see his VP though, that is who will be the 2012 runner, bank on it.
bbz123 on February 2, 2008 at 5:09 PM
How is Tucker Carlson more conservative? At least McCain has stayed consistent on the Iraq. Carlson thinks we should have never gone.
terryannonline on February 2, 2008 at 5:11 PM
One advantage of a McCain candidacy: conservative Congressional candidates could run on a vote-for-me-and-I’ll-stop-St. John platform thereby moving the Republican caucus in the House and Senate to the right.
No?
Really I’m trying to see some silver lining in this coming debacle.
billy on February 2, 2008 at 5:11 PM
Well, it is up the executive branch to enforce the laws..
And he does have one of the strongest law enforcers right at his side, in Rudy Giuliani that has also made it one of his Commitments to end Illegal immigration and he has the plans to do it..
Trust, but verify.. as I said.
Thats goes with ANY Politician, when Mitt said he was a lifelong hunter, or that he had the endorsement of the NRA, or that he saw his father marching with Martin Luther King jr. did you trust him or did you have to verify those false statements?
If Mitt said that he would deport the illegals that were working on his lawn for several years do you just trust him?
And if so.. why? given his past history.
Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 5:11 PM
McCain HATES CONSERVATIVES
Why don’t we want McCain- BECAUSE McCAIN WANTS TO CRUSH OUT CONSERVATISM as badly as the Dems. do.
Do you see how much McCain likes conservative ideas now??? Look fast because AS SOON AS HE GETS THE PRESIDENCY it will be bye-bye conservatives…
…HELLO ILLEGALS!!
“What me WATERBOARD TERRORISTS???-I DON’T THINK SO! STRICT CONSTRUCTIONIST JURISTS??? Are you kidding – IF I DID THAT THE MEDIA WOULDN’T WOULDN’T LIKE ME!! I’M JOHN McCAIN!! The Anti-Republican Maverick!!!
Don’t just roll over and take it up- well ya’ll know the rest.
DONATE TO MITT. TODAY.
RIGHT NOW.
SEND A MESSAGE Damn it!
Ex-tex on February 2, 2008 at 5:12 PM
We already have a pro-amnesty president, and did he get his way? No, we stopped him. He never got the chance to sign the bill, and neither will McCain.
McCain clearly understands this. So if amnesty is your number one concern you have little to fear from a McCain administration.
infidel65 on February 2, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Is war a measure of conservativism? Tucker didn’t advocate for going in the first place, but he doesn’t advocate leaving now either.
He is conservative on economics, on immigration, on government etc. And that’s the heart of conservatism: small government. Trusting the people over government.
Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM
No offense, but there are many broken records here.
C’mon, we need a few McCainiacs. Y’know, for balance.
SouthernDem on February 2, 2008 at 5:16 PM
“She”, thanks! :)
Tickleddragon – F, NC.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 5:16 PM
McCain for Arizona Senator!
Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Heh. That’s the spirit!
SouthernDem on February 2, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Why Mitt has plenty of his own Money that he can spend he doesn’t need your money.
BTW, he outspent everyone in Iowa, NH, SC and Florida and still lost..
Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Points for billy! That’s one hell of a silver lining.
Sadly, not enough for me to abandon my principles. But if he wins, that’s what we can hope for. :)
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Well that’s a nice weak straw, I think I’ll grasp it.
Sure we’ll have a pro-amnesty president and a pro-amnesty Congress for the next 4 years but not to worry ’cause Washington will listen to the will of the people.
Okay.
I feeel much, much better my friends.
billy on February 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Mitt spent his to prove his viability. Why shouldn’t his supporters put their money where the mouth is? Quid pro quo.
Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 5:20 PM
If I was a SINGLE issue protester on the subject of McVain, that still wouldn’t make me think positively about him.
But I’m not a single issue gal on him…He’s backstabbed FAR too many times, and called me a nativist for my opinions.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 5:20 PM
I don’t mind the McCainiacs, as long as they don’t say the same stupid shite over and over again. Two or three of ours do.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 5:21 PM
We had a pro-amnesty Prez and congress last year. Amnesty is wildly unpopular. It’s not just us evil right-wingers who oppose it. A large majority of indies and at least half democrat voters are against it too. Why do you think we won?
infidel65 on February 2, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Because the race is already lost. This is shaping up like the “DONATE TO FRED!” threads a few days before South Carolina, where dead-enders dumped good money on a dying campaign. Speaking of which, has anyone heard from tommylotto lately, on the status of Fred’s campaign accounts?
Big S on February 2, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Don’t try to tell people what to do with their own money. You sound like a liberal. :)
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 5:27 PM
He has also said he learned his lesson.
If you look at his advisor’s (unpaid or not), it should tell you that he has not and that he is lying.
Frankly when a candidate lies directly to my face, I place little trust in what he says he is going to do.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Even if what you say is true, (which I don’t think is true, though I do think McCain will get the nom), the effects of the campaigns are yet to be determined. First of all, donations to his campaign, even if he withdrew, offset his personal losses. His staying after Fred left did give conservatives a place to rally to and that’s appreciated. Secondly, it helps solidify his position in the conservative base. Whether you want him as President or not, sure you recognize he is a man of unusual talents, and has the sort of class that would make a welcome future nominee.
Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Dude, STOP watchin’ FOX and CNN and think for yourself. Mitt still has the most delegates and folks haven’t voted yet.
Now’s the time to git on the “Stop McCain EXPRESS”
Come’on son go buy yer ticket!
Ex-tex on February 2, 2008 at 5:31 PM
If, If, If. Are you trying to conduct a creative writing class?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Everybody knows who McCain is while Romney was largely unknown so he had to spend money to introduce himself to voters.
As for who “needs” our money, you sound like a liberal Dem justifying tax increases.
Just for that I think I’m going to chip in a few more dollars to Mitt. As some have said, he needs to get the message that we are behind him.
Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 5:33 PM
That trust but verify part sounds really good. What exactly do we do if the verification fails to come about after he’s pres? He said he will build the fence, but what if he doesn’t? Will we blame Congress for him not living up to his promises after he is elected? That is a fairly popular pass the buck gimmick. If it is up to the executive branch to enforce the laws and congress decides to defund the wall, are you telling us he’ll fight for the money ’cause he promised us he would build it? What if he doesn’t fight for the money? Trust but verify sounds fine but it doesn’t really mean anything if the official is already elected. It is too late then to do anything but wonder why we believed him. His history indicates we shouldn’t.
a capella on February 2, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Actually he was an advocate of the war in Iraq at first then he changed his mind. Of course war doesn’t measure conservative. However, the few of times I’ve watched him on MSNBC he seems kind of wishy washy to me. But that could be just my impression.
terryannonline on February 2, 2008 at 5:40 PM
McCain falls within my principles. Barely, but he is on the right side. So I vote for him over Hillary and my disdain for the Republican party, and the two party system in general will remain. We are headed for the abyss. At least McCain is taking the scenic route.
sweeper on February 2, 2008 at 5:44 PM
McCain “doesn’t love his party?” What, the party of Jorge Boosh and Mel Martinez, or the dogmatic “my way or the highway” party of Limbaugh, Levin, Malkin and the rest of the yammering heads?
When we allowed social tinkering into political parties (thank you, FDR) and quit focusing on basic principles, that was the thin end of the wedge that has led to the messed-up system we have today.
Barry Goldwater — and we need a “new Goldwater” more than we need a “new Reagan,” IMO — understood this.
Time for government that does certain basic things efficiently — and with as few employees as possible — and takes the minimum from its citizens. We need fewer laws, fewer federal programs.
Don’t see either McCain or Romney leading this fight. But I do see Osama Obama and The Hildebeest doing their best to run things the exact opposite way.
So I don’t “love” the Republican Party — whatever it is at this moment — but I will vote for its candidates as a kind of holding action against homegrown socialism and communism.
MrScribbler on February 2, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Exactly
It is my money/and my vote, I am “free to chose” how I handle either.
If I fall into debt, that is my problem not yours (for the record the only debt I have is credit cards, and I have roughly 4x the money in my savings account to pay off my credit cards).
Thank does not count my cash reserve account/401k etc/investments etc.
Big S
Are you going to take my vote away because you think I am unable to handle my vote because I am throwing it away?
If you think that way with a vote/why stop at a election?
If I can’t manage money then lets take that away as well.
How does that sound to you?
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 5:46 PM
No, you’re right. He’s a pud. Reaches across the aisle a lot. But, he isn’t as objectionable as Ann Coulter. Of course Ann is starting to develop a bit of that reach disease herself, what with Hillary and all. Anything for a buck.
a capella on February 2, 2008 at 5:47 PM
In the unlikely event that McCain somehow manages to win the White House he will have a clear mandate to provide amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants. Considering McCain’s antipathy toward the 1st amendment he will probably start by signing the fairness doctrine and once Rush and the other conservative talk show circuit is shut up he will shove his amnesty down our throats—-and there won’t be a thing we can do to stop it. Even if we flood the phone banks of everybody in DC, surpassing the effort this past summer, Washington will laugh in our faces and explain how our threats mean nothing to them because there is no price to be paid.
If people continue to vote amnesty supporters back into office, even promote them to POTUS, then the politicians will surely learn their lesson, which is that the American people support amnesty and open-borders politicians in spite of their threats to the contrary.
FloatingRock on February 2, 2008 at 5:47 PM
McShame won’t win the national election…Ann Coulter has it right…repubs will fight(whimper) against a dem and agree with Juan. Think not…just watch if somehow he is elected, more than likely ‘76 “all over again”(yogi)
oldernslower on February 2, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Wow. As the mother, no way in hell that I want my son to grow up and be like John McCain and his Back Talk Express.
Yes, he exhibited great courage as a P.O.W. but he is nasty, vindictive, disloyal, and dishonest. No thanks, Tuck.
Someone like Mitt is what I have in mind.
Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 5:55 PM
I don’t remember that but I’ll yield to your memory.
I don’t think he is wishy-washy at all. I don’t think he has wavered on a single principle he has held. I could be wrong of course, I’m not in his head.
But from most of the criticisms I hear about him, most are about him not attacking the left on something, etc. But those really miss what he is about. He is much more of an inside baseball guy. He talks a great deal about political maneuvering and viability and he is quite critical of the press, unlike most of his peers. He will temporarily accept an assertion for discussion sake, and then pick it apart from the inside, like Socrates might, but then conservatives get angry that he accepted the premise at all. I happen to like that a great deal because it deconstructs arguments instead of dismisses them.
No one ever won a battle of ideas by shouting over everyone else, as our trolls prove daily.
Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 5:58 PM
PUT A LINK Damn it!
RushBaby on February 2, 2008 at 5:59 PM
No McCain–not no way,never! I will do what I can to see this happen.
jeanie on February 2, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Now, let’s be clear on this. With as close as the last two elections were, do we think McCain can win when 10-15% of the Republican party don’t show up to vote?
I’m predicting a huge landslide win for Hillary or Obama, when all those Moderates who love McCain dump him for their greater love, the Democratic Party.
Snake307 on February 2, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Please
Here is McCain being asked about Hernandez
Here is Hernandez on the M-Factor (see first clip)
I call that wishy-washy
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 6:11 PM
I agree. Even if you are an infidel.
I’ll vote for someone we may be able to influence rather than take chances on somebody we can’t.
*Typing in White House e-mail address and putting White House on speed dial*
davidk on February 2, 2008 at 6:12 PM
Pat Paulson?
davidk on February 2, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Here’s how I look at it. If McVain gets the nom, there will be two Dems running for office. Little different between. Only if the fake R gets into the Oval Office, the Rs will be blamed for everything that he does, regardless of the fact that it is Liberal in nature. It will be decades before we get it again.
So, I’ll root for (not vote for…I will write in Fred) the Dem to win, so they will get the blame for the bad liberal policies. A la Carter.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Are you talking about McCain or Tucker? Looks like from your links you are talking about Mac. I was not.
Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 6:15 PM
This should end the debate right now …
“Novak: Bush won’t support Romney because of immigration”
El hombre Bushez favors shamnesty hombre Juan McCainez.
Romney all the way.
darwin on February 2, 2008 at 6:15 PM
If it is McCain v. Hillary – Hillary gets my vote
If it is the Huckster v. Hillary – Hillary gets my vote
If it is McCain v. Obama – I stay home
If it is The Huckster v. Obama – I stay home
Onager on February 2, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Thanks for that tidbit. Not surprised at all.
Now it’s solidified….
Go Romney!
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Are we just supposed to take that chance?
For the record when it come to McCain amensty is my #2 issue.
My lack of trust is my #1 issue.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Yes I was talking about Mac
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 6:19 PM
“Novak: Bush won’t support Romney because of immigration”
link should work now.
darwin on February 2, 2008 at 6:19 PM
I have a son and I would be bitterly disappointed if he grew up to be like John McCain.
I have spent his entire life teaching him humility and graciousness. I stress that is is important that he be generous and kind and stick up for the little guy. His father and I want him to be faithful to his wife and a good role model for his children.
No, I do not want my son to be like John McCain.
EJDolbow on February 2, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Ah. Then we are not at odds after all.
Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Never! Ever. Under any circumstances! I will vote democrap, no matter who the democrap nominee is if McVain is the nominee. If it is Huckabee I stay home. I will not reward a man who has repeatedly shown nothing but disdain for conservatives. I believe this maybe the end of the Republican party. I’ve done my part. I re-registered as an Independent this week. If the party has no interest in conservatives I will go elsewhere. Try winning the general as a Repub without conservatives. Good luck with that.
jwp1964 on February 2, 2008 at 6:23 PM
+1
I left the GOP during Shamnesty. Will not be going back unless the Conservatives get the control back.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Illegals drive down wages, suck up enormous amounts of taxpayers dollars in schools, health care, crime related issues and so on. Legalizing over 30 million illegals will just make them eligible for MORE. The great majoirty would put much less into the system than they take out. It’s national suicide and bad economics.
Juam McCainez … Go Home.
Anyone who prays please say one for Mitt. Those who don’t please express a positive thought for him.
darwin on February 2, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Makes sense because if I recall correctly Bush called for “comprehensive immigration reform” (amnesty) during his last SOTU address.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Yes … remember how disappointed he was that shamnesty didn’t get rammed down our throats?
darwin on February 2, 2008 at 6:27 PM
appears we are not. Sorry my bad I did not see your reference to Tucker and thought you were talking about McCain.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 6:29 PM
I remember that day perfectly :)
When MM’s website crashed that day (and HA ran very slow with an occasional timeout) I knew things were going well.
Course the humping robot “victory video” Allah posted was the most beautiful thing I ever saw.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 6:34 PM
There is one blaring omission in McCain’s border stance. He always says he got the message, the people want the border secured first. What comes second?????? He never tells us what comes after securing the borders. Want to guess what he and his amnesty advisor have planned?
hilchar on February 2, 2008 at 6:35 PM
It was a gorgeous gorgeous day!!
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 6:40 PM
This is one of his major lies…
He did not “get the message” like he claims in the debates.
Just look at his current advisor’s.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 6:44 PM
How about this
F UJuan McLame you can have my vote when you can pry it from my cold dead hand.And that means never so better suck up to your base the left and hope for illegals to vote you in .
Mojack420 on February 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Yes it was.
I think that was the first time the # of comments per thread broke 1000.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM
I was never so proud to be part of an online community than that period. I’ve been here since “fauxtography” was coined. But the Shamnesty backlash was just pure poetry.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 6:54 PM
I remember it as well. It was the day I thought our voices could be heard, that we the people had a say in our government. We the people are supposed to tell the govt what they can do, the govt is not supposed to tell us what we can do.
I thought our voices could really make an impact.
It was on that day that the political establishment and big media (ie, the ruling class) were quite unnerved by our actions, and hatched the perfect plan: A democrat or a democrat in republican clothing. They win either way. Say hello to the Fairness Doctrine.
OUR LAST CHANCE IS TUESDAY….VOTE MITT!
JustTruth101 on February 2, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Heh back in the “fauxtography” days I was unable to leave comments. (I did get a response from Allah via (tips@hotair.com) however.
That is what is so cool about the internet. The major media still has it’s sheeple, however they are losing control on a daily basis.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 7:08 PM
I begged my way in during a closed registration period…During the Israeli conflict. THANKS Allah!!
He made me promise I’d not say anything inflamitory about the muzzies. I’ve lived up to that, tho I’m sure I’ve enflamed a few opponents. :)
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Man,
I guess I was not female enough or “Alpha male” enough to beg my way in during that time.
Course not to long after HA had open registration, so maybe I was “just enough” :)
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 7:20 PM
I see my GIS tag is catching on. Awesome.
fourstringfuror on February 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM
It works for me. Too much confusion sometimes on gender.
Single conservative Girl needs to know who her intelligent conservative guys are, no?
:) JK.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM
I think he took pity on me. I did beg shamelessly. :)
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 7:32 PM
If one finally comes to the realization that party politics is for:
- Morons
- Those invested in the system
One can put one candidate against another without bias.
So what issue is important to you?
WOT, Immigration, Abortion, etc, etc
John McCain didn’t abandon the Republican Party. The Republican Party put forward intellectual midgets and party hacks and we all embraced it to fight down the other side. But we lost our sight in the process.
sweeper on February 2, 2008 at 7:33 PM
No offense but the A/S/L check is so old school AOL.
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 7:34 PM
F15 –
This came about as part of a discussion over “masculine” handles, and mistaking a user for a man/woman. My suggestion, in jest, was to implement the Gender Identification System, much like our elected officials affix to their names (e.g. Sen. Jim DeMint R-SC)
It’s not really the same as the ASL stuff. Either way, it was just a suggestion. My handle leaves little doubt as to my gender, but someone with a less gender-specific name might consider it.
Besides, what’s wrong with old school? :)
http://oldversion.com
fourstringfuror on February 2, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Nothing is wrong with old school, and for the record AOL used to be a client of mine.
I will even go as far to say AOL runs the tightest ship in the business, no other ISP invests as much money in the infrastructure as AOL.
That said I don’t need an A/S/L check.
If you read enough posts you get to know people and where they are coming from.
No check is needed to reply/get to know someone, that is easily done if you do a little research.
My point is that I dont
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Hmmmm, I thought John McCain’s personal movement was contained in the Soros funded REFORM INSTITUTE where he hangs with all his criminal immigration buddies and has raked in millions of bucks circumventing the exact lobby money the McCain Feinberg bill was supposed to prevent.
Hernandez and McCain will probably build a few miles of border fence but it will do little good since they plan for open border crossings all along.
Do a search on the REFORM INSTITUTE and look at who finances it and then look at what those people also finance.
Buzzy on February 2, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Does his record in the Senate mean NOTHING?
oldleprechaun on February 2, 2008 at 8:02 PM
All here on HA- listen up- McCain says all further criticism of him online must now stop.
According to a rarely-noticed sub-clause in the McCain-Feingold Bi-Partisan Campaign Finance Reform Act, all such loose talk is hereby prohibited, starting on the Saturday evening before any Tuesday primaries.
1st Amendment be damned.
Silence peons.
McShamnesty knows best.
_________________________________________________________
Romney needs to run this ad:
Sepia shot of McCain’s grumpy face, and then the line (spoken and printed)
“John “Amnesty” McCain: 20 million illegals can’t be wrong.”
CUE: Coyote howl.
Period.
profitsbeard on February 2, 2008 at 8:11 PM
I think this is true, there are a great many RINO’s in the party that have slowly been taking control over the past twenty years. GWB is one of them. And they have been trying to undermine the conservative movement all along. McCain is just the latest more liberal version of the same old guys.
40 years ago these guys were or would have been democrats. I think this is just a remanifestation of the old dixie-crats, who left the party some time ago and identified with the republicans.
conservnut on February 2, 2008 at 8:13 PM
McCain for Ambassador! To Burkina Faso!
Misha I on February 2, 2008 at 8:22 PM
F15Mech on February 2, 2008 at 7:57 PM
It was a joke, Mech.
I mistaked malan89 for a woman, which prompted the joke.
Don’t take it so seriously.
tickleddragon on February 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM
This guy’s a joke, right? Vote for goofy McCain because he ‘promised’ border security? This guy even resembles comedian Albert Brooks! Maybe he’s doing standup with Tucker as the straight man.
countywolf on February 2, 2008 at 8:45 PM
It’s all good. It’s hard to understand the joke when you weren’t there. Even harder to explain it on a message board!
fourstringfuror on February 2, 2008 at 8:47 PM
If I’m called “racist, wrong, and stupid” by a man like McCain, I’ll take it as a compliment.
fourstringfuror on February 2, 2008 at 9:01 PM
Sorry if I’m brining already-reported news here, but Drudge has a link to the country’s largest Spanish-language newspaper’s endorsement of McCain.
Tzetzes on February 2, 2008 at 9:33 PM
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