Audio flashbacks: The great Kerry-McCain flirt of 2004

posted at 11:22 am on February 2, 2008 by Bryan

Maverick. Political switch hitter. Flirted with joining a ticket with John Kerry against a sitting Republican president back in 2004? This is old ground, but it’s worth going over as a reminder of who we’re dealing with in John McCain.

Here’s a 2007 clip of John Kerry on how John McCain’s people approached Kerry about a possible 2004 fusion ticket.

JOHN KERRY: His people similarly approached me, to engage in a discussion about his potentially being on the ticket, as vice president. So, his people were active. Let’s put it that way.

Is Kerry lying? Could be, but here’s a story that fleshes this gambit out in more detail. Kerry gave that soundbite in an interview with the liberal blog MyDD, presumably friendly confines for Kerry.

Jonathan Singer: There’s a story in The Hill, I think on Tuesday, by Bob Cusack on the front page of the paper talking about how John McCain’s people — John Weaver — had approached Tom Daschle and a New York Congressman, I don’t remember his name, about switching parties. And I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about what your discussions were with him in 2004, how far it went, who approached whom… if there was any “there” there.

John Kerry: I don’t know all the details of it. I know that Tom, from a conversation with him, was in conversation with a number of Republicans back then. It doesn’t surprise me completely because his people similarly approached me to engage in a discussion about his potentially being on the ticket as Vice President. So his people were active — let’s put it that way.

Singer: Okay. And just to confirm, you said it, but this is something they approached you rather than…

Kerry: Absolutely correct. John Weaver of his shop.

John Weaver certainly did work for John McCain up until the McCain campaign imploded last year.

And here’s John McCain himself on running with Kerry, from March 2004.

CHARLES GIBSON: Let me imagine it. If he asked you, if he came across the aisle and asked you, would you even entertain the idea? Or will you rule it out for good and all and ever right now?
MCCAIN: John Kerry is a very close friend of mine, and we’ve been friends for years. Obviously I would entertain it…

That soundbite finishes with

but there is, I see no scenario, no scenario, no scenario, where, I foresee no scenario where that will happen.”

And he goes on to state that he will campaign for President Bush, not against Sen. Kerry, and that the Democrats would be unlikely to put a hawkish, pro-life Republican on the ticket. Which is true as far as that goes.

In July 2004 after Kerry had picked John Edwards as his running mate, then radio talk show host Tony Snow asked John McCain about whether McCain had considered running with Kerry against Bush. McCain says that Kerry never offered him the slot. But in that interview McCain didn’t say that he never sent his own people to Kerry to check into the possibility.

SNOW: It was never offered. So, it may have been discussed elliptically, but never flat out request.

McCAIN: Never was an offer, no.

SNOW: When you had conversations, did you think it was a little weird that he’d be calling you, even in general terms about this sort of thing?

McCAIN: Well, he and I have been friends for a number of years because of our efforts on POWs and MIAs which was a very hot issue back in the early 90’s, a lot of people have forgotten about it, but it was a- and we worked together to try to resolve that issue and I appreciate the work that he did on it. And, so it’s not unusual for us to have conversations.

SNOW: Right. But, so- I want to just lay to rest once and for all: never approached you, never hinted that he wanted to talk to you about being vice president. All that kind of stuff was made up.

McCAIN: Well, I cannot attest to that. All I can tell you is my conversations with him were private conversations, but he never offered it.

So in March 2004, McCain says he would entertain the unlikely Kerry offer if it came, and in July 2004 he says he was never offered the slot, but that’s after Edwards was already on the ticket. “It was never offered” does not equal “I never sought it or sent out feelers.” So did he? In April 2007 John Weaver flatly denied that McCain ever sought to be on the Kerry ticket, and McCain chief of staff Mark Salter called it a “fantasy” and said that Kerry approached McCain as early as 2003. But in that Snow interview, McCain himself seemed to leave the possibility open that he approached Kerry by how carefully he worded his answers. Someone here isn’t telling the truth. Maybe all involved aren’t. There is history of both Kerry and McCain dissembling, with McCain as recently as this week baldly mischaracterizing Mitt Romney’s position on Iraq.

As the saying goes, where there’s smoke there’s fire, so obviously there was some discussion between Kerry and McCain of creating a fusion ticket against Bush. How far those talks got is hard to say: Kerry says there were feelers, McCain doesn’t answer the question, but the man Kerry named as McCain’s agent in 2004 flatly denies the whole thing. It seems possible to me that Kerry approached McCain in 2003 but it was too early, so McCain put Kerry off. But in 2004 once Kerry became the Democrat front-runner, McCain may have very quietly sought intel on whether Kerry’s 2003 overture was still on the table. It wasn’t. But that’s conjecture. If McCain did approach Kerry and Kerry rejected him, then Maverick is a turncoat and Kerry is a fool, because Edwards brought nothing to that ticket and McCain probably would have made enough of a difference to give us a President Kerry now. One thing we do know that McCain went on in that Snow interview to declare support for President Bush, and that McCain became an energetic campaigner for Bush throughout the rest of that year. But we also know that McCain has been a thorn to Republicans on most other issues ever since he lost to Bush in 2000.

Whatever did happen in 2004, it’s not quite the end of the story. Here’s former House Speaker Dennis Hastert on the Mark Levin Show Friday night. Hastert endorses Mitt Romney and describes what it was like working with the Straight Talkin’ Maverick in Congress. Hastert makes many of the same anti-McCain points that the conservative pundits stress: McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, etc. But coming from a fellow Republican member of Congress, Hastert’s obvious annoyance at McCain packs a little bit more of a punch.

That’s how hard it was for conservatives to work with Senator McCain. Imagine them having to work with President McCain.


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When do we stop bashin Mav and unite to defeat Billary?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

JOHN KERRY: His people similarly approached me, to engage in a discussion about his potentially being on the ticket, as vice president.

I doubt that, but this year, if McCain is nominated, he will have Joe Lieberman as his V.P.

Tony737 on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Rick Santorum said it as hell trying to work with McCain on Marriage, Family and life issues.

Rick said McCain would fight him at every turn to keep proposals from making it to the Senate floor for a vote.

McCain hates to vote on the conservative side of things but knows he has had to from time to time to stay in the good graces of the party.

John McCains CURRENT American Conservative Union Rating is A FAILING 63%. I can assure you the number for the year just ended will be much lower.

EJDolbow on February 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM

The very fact that there is discussion of this proves that McCain is more a Democrat than a Republican. And he stands a good chance of being the Repub. nominee? Saints preserve us!

Sloan Morganstern on February 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM

When do we stop bashin Mav and unite to defeat Billary?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Nope, the goal is too defeat McCain.

EJDolbow on February 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM

I doubt that, but this year, if McCain is nominated, he will have Joe Lieberman as his V.P.

Tony737 on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Wrong bro. I’ll bet the family farm, and my twin sisters that it’s Lindsey Graham. Take it to the bank.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM

John McCain is a despicable creep.

Tried to join the Dems once…
he’ll do it again once he realizes he has no base among conservatives.

He’s a trojan horse. Behind John McCain are all the political enemies of our party. Why the HELL are we running this guy again?

CABE on February 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Nope, the goal is too defeat McCain.

EJDolbow on February 2, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Dude, this primary is OVER. Now if you’re willing to join Coulter and Bruce behind behind Hillary, it’s your funeral.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM

Wrong bro. I’ll bet the family farm, and my twin sisters that it’s Lindsey Graham. Take it to the bank.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM

That is WORSE than Lieberman

EJDolbow on February 2, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Dude, this primary is OVER. Now if you’re willing to join Coulter and Bruce behind behind Hillary, it’s your funeral.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM

Nope, the Funeral of John McCain’s presidential aspirations. I will go on as before.

EJDolbow on February 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM

More Mac Hate.

I have no doubt this will continue to escalate until Tuesday morning when an item will be posted here accusing McCain of having fathered an interracial child and collbarating with the VC.

Do you really think any of this will help Romney?

The reason voters are turned off by Romney and some of the other candidates are supporting Mac is because of all the slime being poured out of the Romney camp.

More slime doesn’t make your candidate any more attractive.

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Better be careful looking back, Reagan raised taxes in Calif, cut taxes as Pres. then raised them, gave amnesty, be careful

KBird on February 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Sounds like John reached across the aisle once more. Bipartisanship is where it’s all at. I believe Yogi once said, “When you come to a fork in the road, take it.” A guy has to look out for himself,..what’s wrong with that?

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Why the HELL are we running this guy again? – CABE

Name recognition. Just like Bob Dole, “It’s his turn”. And just like Bob Dole, he’s gonna lose.

Tony737 on February 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM

War Hero vs The Liars. I like Mav’s chances.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:35 AM

When do we stop bashin Mav and unite to defeat Billary?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

I notice you haven’t offered your opinion on whether this was a good move by McCain. Would you?

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 11:36 AM

I know nothing.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:38 AM

I’ll bet the family farm, and my twin sisters that it’s Lindsey Graham. Take it to the bank. – THE CHOSEN ONE

Or maybe one of the Kennedys? Not much of a difference either way. Moving the Pubbie Party to the left is the best way to lose.

Tony737 on February 2, 2008 at 11:39 AM

I just saw a BREAKING NEWS on ESPN. Looks like the Patriots spygate extends to the super bowl vs. Rams a few years back. Developing….

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:39 AM

George McGovern was a war hero too. How did that work out again?

McCain is a one trick phony.

CABE on February 2, 2008 at 11:40 AM

I wonder if this might not be a good time for some more anti-Mormonism posts by the McCain staffers,..just to sort of divert things?

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 11:40 AM

When do we stop bashin Mav and unite to defeat Billary?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

When do we stop supporting the hyjack of the Republican party to defeat the Democrats?

John McDole will NEVER, EVER get my vote. I see a lot of these threads and on FR that many many are going to do the same. John will lose in November. That, MY FRIEND, is an absolute.

He has found conservatives to be the spot to urinate for the past 4 years. We will not forget. The independent vote will absolutely go to Obama, should he win. And most will go to Hillary, should she win. Some women Republicans will vote for Hillary (Ann Coulter, Tammy Bruce). And many conservatives will write in Fred or Huck. Mini-Me Dole will NOT win.

stenwin77 on February 2, 2008 at 11:40 AM

BRYAN — POST TODAY’s RASSMUSEN DAILY TRACKING POLL BETWEEN ROMNEY AND MCCAIN!!

EJDolbow on February 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM

stenwin77 on February 2, 2008 at 11:40 AM

Stay at home. We don’t need you to win.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM

War Hero vs The Liars. I like Mav’s chances. – THE CHOSEN ONE

Daddy Bush – War Hero.

Bob Dole – War Hero.

Bill Clinton – Liar.

Bill Clinton – President.

Tony737 on February 2, 2008 at 11:42 AM

EJDolbow on February 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Dude. It’s over. Now super bowl coverage dominates. No room for Romney to buy influence.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM

independent vote will absolutely go to Obama

And you think the independents will flock to a manufactured plastic candidate like Romney?

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 2, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Denny Hastert? He lost any right to be taken seriously when he took the criminal’s case in the House. I couldn’t care less what he has to say about anything, and good riddance to him. Same for DeLay.

rightwingprof on February 2, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Wrong bro. I’ll bet the family farm, and my twin sisters that it’s Lindsey Graham. Take it to the bank.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM

He’s got so many lemming OLD Party dynasaurs licking his behind, thinking they will be his selection (Charlie Crist, Lindsie, Joe Loserman, ….). What difference does it make. He will lose in November. (DOLE, FORD)

OUR PARTY IS BEING TAKEN FROM US… VOTE MITT ON TUESDAY!

stenwin77 on February 2, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Stay at home. We don’t need you to win.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM

You heard it here first, folks. Geez, and on another thread, one of the McCain staffers promised us that McCain was going to start making nice with conservatives on Wednesday. Don’t know who to believe. Guess I’ll go with The Chosen One.

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 11:46 AM

From 5th from the bottom of his class at Annapolis to commander-in-chief. Proof that the dumbing of the United States has arrived. The choice of two lying libs means no choice.

volsense on February 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Seems evident to me that the anti-McCain brigade is grasping at weak straws here. When you get to the “but, he didn’t say…” stage, that’s pretty lame.

Not saying I want McC to get the nod, because I don’t. Not a big Romney fan, either, and would prefer to see the convention draft someone — Thompson, Hunter, Tancredo, etc. — who is trustworthy.

But the relentless McCain-bashing is doing far more damage than good. Having, Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, Malkin, et al yammering 24/7 about what an awful guy he is will turn off those voters who must cross the lines to help defeat the democrat machine.

Like it or not, he has an R after his name. So does the current president. The two of them are laving a hell of a lot of baggage behind for true conservatives to overcome.

MrScribbler on February 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM

And you think the independents will flock to a manufactured plastic candidate like Romney?

Picture Obama in a debate against the old-man, John. I think Mitt certainly stands a better chance to appeal to young people and independent thinkers.

stenwin77 on February 2, 2008 at 11:48 AM

McCain’s economic experience: Salting the fries at McDonalds.

McCain vs Anyone: Economy loses.

CABE on February 2, 2008 at 11:50 AM

But the relentless McCain-bashing is doing far more damage than good. Having, Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, Malkin, et al yammering 24/7 about what an awful guy he is will turn off those voters who must cross the lines to help defeat the democrat machine.

These conservatives were “our heros” during the Supreme Court chaos and the illegal alien nightmere. Now they aren’t to be believed? Geeze, talk about fair weather friends.

They’re trying to wake conservatives UP – this is the future of the Republican party. PERIOD.

stenwin77 on February 2, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Like it or not, he has an R after his name.

So did Jumpin’ Jim till he beat McCain to the punch and crossed over as kingmaker. First time I can remember John losing a race for headlines.

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 11:52 AM

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 2, 2008 at 11:33 AM

You’re right, how dare we criticize a presidential candidate…

Verbal Abuse on February 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM

mC is playing on the uninformed, disengauged, while the dems set him up.
now days, if you’re conservative and tuned-in, these are the bleak days.

jimmer on February 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM

McCain’s rich trophy wife Cindy won’t even pony up any of her inherited $30 mill liquor fortune for his campaign.

Let the peasants pay.

Maybe she knows something?

profitsbeard on February 2, 2008 at 11:59 AM

Bryan,

Thanks for posting this in all its excruciating detail. History does not begin this morning for conservatives, and it is entirely appropriate to educate voters on how McCain flirted with betrayal yet now wants to head the Republican Party and be our Commander in Chief.

I wonder how our military men and women feel about the prospect of having a CinC who was prepared to leap into John Kerry’s arms, defeat George Bush, and effectively sabotage W’s strategy to win the W.O.T.?

One more point – Lieberman is as Hawkish as McCain. Does that qualify him to be our candidate in November?

/rq.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Yeah but Bryan this is an old story…

Thanks for posting it.

It sure rebuts the the ole ‘Cain bias going on around here.

Mcguyver on February 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Hey, guys, I detest John McCain as much as most of you do, and I’m certainly not campaigning for him. But here’s the deal:

If John McCain were exactly like Hillary Clinton on every single issue except the war…he would still be better than Hillary Clinton.

It could be worse. Not much worse, but worse.

aero on February 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM

stenwin77 –

Turn that reasoning 180 degrees. Should we hang on their every word because they supported some causes we believe in? By that argument, we should all be buffing McCain’s shoes.

If any of the four “leading” candidates get elected in November, we’re in for bad times. All in all, I’d rather take my chances with McCain or Romney simply because, like all politicians, their reelection campaigns will begin on Jan 20, ’09, and I doubt either would take the Demos’ Robin Hood road.

MrScribbler on February 2, 2008 at 12:05 PM

McCain’s rich trophy wife Cindy won’t even pony up any of her inherited $30 mill liquor fortune for his campaign.

Let the peasants pay.

Maybe she knows something?

profitsbeard on February 2, 2008 at 11:59 AM

She knows enough to not get in a car accident. He’ll shuck her like table scraps and find another. As presidential nominee, I’ll bet there is someone even richer who is available.

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 12:06 PM

aero on February 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Cloverfield 49%
Godzilla 51%

I ain’t voting for Godzilla just because he’s a little better. The two choices between McCain and the Dem really suck. We’d be better off writing in Han Solo to send a message to the party.

CABE on February 2, 2008 at 12:06 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Not happening this year :-) No el’ Presidente Juan McVaino here. I guess Billary or Obama it is.

TOPV on February 2, 2008 at 12:08 PM

It could be worse. Not much worse, but worse.

aero on February 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM

But, you forgot this part.

Stay at home. We don’t need you to win.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM

The choice has already been made for us.

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 12:09 PM

What disconcerts me about all of this is just how many people are more concerned about the R behind the name than the concepts in the brain. Just another fear and loathing campaign while the GOP turns into Democrat Lite.

The GOP needs to figure out that conservatives can learn not to hold their noses and vote for crappy candidates. Weren’t the 2006 midterms lesson enough… apparently not.

Buzzy on February 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Don’t worry folks when Maverick’s in office he won’t marganilize you like conservatives have done to moderates for years.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM

It could be worse. Not much worse, but worse.

aero on February 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM

no. i dont want to see the country go down the toilet for four years while the president has an R beside their name.

Mcain cant beat hillary or obama. accept this as fact.

hes a tired grumpy foul mouthed old man that thinks the country owes him something. we do owe him respect for his service in the military. however his service to his country in Washington is hideous. and that is why i would not or will not vote for him. even if he is the “chosen one”.

palefaced on February 2, 2008 at 12:13 PM

BRYAN — POST TODAY’s RASSMUSEN DAILY TRACKING POLL BETWEEN ROMNEY AND MCCAIN!!

EJDolbow on February 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Thanks for the hat tip.

RASSMUSEN Daily Presidential Tracking Poll:

In the race for the Republican Presidential Nomination, it’s John McCain at 30%, Mitt Romney at 30%, and Mike Huckabee at 21%. Ron Paul is supported by 5% of Likely Republican Primary Voters (see recent daily numbers). Romney leads by sixteen percentage points among conservatives while McCain has a two-to-one advantage among moderate Primary Voters.

Hugh Hewitt, God love him, sure is crazy, but smart!

Like he says .. Mitt is the one with upward momentum in all the polls.

I well remember when Mitt was way down….!

Mcguyver on February 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Don’t worry folks when Maverick’s in office he won’t marganilize you like conservatives have done to moderates for years.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Now you are officially nuts. That has to be the biggest lie I’ve ever heard. McCain’s been marginalizing conservatives for years.

CABE on February 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Hasn’t been a conservative in office since the 1980′s so how would you know?

Buzzy on February 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM

In today’s Washington Post: Arizona activists are covered protesting the influx of illegals into the state (and the country), calling McCain’s campaign bus “The Forked-Tongue Express“.

Let them eat Bunuelos!” the maverick’s wife was overheard sneering.

profitsbeard on February 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Coverfield 49%
Godzilla 51%

McCain Voter: “I’m voting for Godzilla, because, um, his name is more familiar to me and uh, he deserves it and um, it’s his turn, and uh … um …”

Tony737 on February 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM

There is no way that Maverick chooses a true conservative as a running mate. His ego could not stand for him being obviously the least popular guy on the ticket. Lock it in. It’s Graham or Huckabee… probably Graham with Huckabee guaranteed a cabinet spot. Well… guaranteed as far as that goes. Maverick gets rolled in November.

Sugar Land on February 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Don’t worry folks when Maverick’s in office he won’t marganilize you like conservatives have done to moderates for years.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Huh? How do you equate that statement with this one?

Stay at home. We don’t need you to win.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:41 AM

You’re getting dizzy. Perhaps if you would rotate the other direction for a while?

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 12:23 PM

The sad fact is that Mitt Romney can’t beat Hillary or Obama. Mitt can’t help it but he reminds people of the guy who went to prep school when they went to pubic school. He reminds people of the guy who always drove the better car, wore better clothes, went to better vacations etc. That is just the way it is. People do not want a prissy Harvard preppie. They don’t care if they agree with him. Romney reminds people of Oliver from the movie Love Story. And he can’t get elected. McCain is a mean son of a B _ _ _ H but the man comes across as a guy you could have a beer and some shots with.

Larraby on February 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM

Mitt can’t help it but he reminds people of the guy who went to prep school when they went to pubic [sic] school…

Larraby on February 2, 2008 at 12:25 PM

You mean like Kerry, Kennedy, and Gore?

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 12:28 PM

Heck, with that latest Rasmussen poll, maybe the conservatives should tell the moderates to stay home, ’cause we can win without them…naw, let’s be inclusive and have a group hug under the big tent. People that say things like that are really crying out for help.

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Tony737-

McCain is more like MOTHRA.

Only in reverse.

The media butterfly …that they will immediately start turning back into a gray, shrivelled figure, and who will end up in a wispy white cocoon of irrelevance.

The MSM is salivating and planning the attacks that they can eviscerate the “mav” with. (“Too old”, “Washington insider”, “Keating 5″, “Alienates the base”, etc., etc.)

His followers won’t believe have fast the Ny Times, which endorses him now, will begin the seppuku on the “hero”.

Swift Boating will look like slo-mo.

profitsbeard on February 2, 2008 at 12:29 PM

McCain would have to do all of these combined in order to get my vote:

1) He builds part of the border fence himself.
2) He picks a very conservative VP.
3) He reverses his global warming stance.
4) Apologizes to Romney for the false timetables attack.
5) Apologizes to Sen Cornyn for the “go f*** yourself” comment.
6) Apologizes for his moms bigoted statement against Mormons.
7) Apologizes for voting against the Tax cuts.
8) Apologizes for McCain-Kennedy and propose new legislation increasing enforcement and deportation.
9) Disassociates himself from Sen. Graham.
10) Swallows a gallon of tabasco sauce.

CABE on February 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM

You mean like Kerry, Kennedy, and Gore?

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 12:28 PM

I suppose it also doesn’t hurt a military guy’s career if his dad is an Admiral, or coming up for promotion to it.

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 12:32 PM

MCCAIN: John Kerry is a very close friend of mine, and we’ve been friends for years. Obviously I would entertain it…

That soundbite finishes with

but there is, I see no scenario, no scenario, no scenario, where, I foresee no scenario where that will happen.”

Compare that with his answer on the illegal immigrant amnesty bill he supported. He is on record with saying that he wouldn’t have to worry about that because the legislation wouldn’t come across his desk.
Really??? With Dems in control of the congress how can you say the legislation wouldn’t come across your desk? And if it does he will sign it.
He is good at disarming people by just dismissing matters like this by telling us the scenario wouldn’t happen rather then telling us what he would do.
Oh did I mention he was in command of the largest squadron in Vietnam. Guess what? Somebody else was in cahrge of it before you and somebody was in charge of it when you were gone. That squadron didn’t just cease to exist. So should we vote for those commanders too?

Just A Grunt on February 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Sugar Land on February 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM

All true.

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Here is McAmnesty on listening to the most popular talk radio host in America …

McCain noted that he did not see himself appearing on Limbaugh’s radio show because he does not have guest interviews.

When reporters pointed out that indeed Limbaugh has phone-in guests like Vice President Dick Cheney, McCain responded: “I don’t listen to him very much. There’s a certain trace of masochism in my family, but not that deep.”

Get it now? McBillary thinks listening to conservative ideology causes pain.

I’m going to vote for ANYBODY but that lying liberal Juan McCain. I invite all to join me.

DannoJyd on February 2, 2008 at 12:40 PM

CABE on February 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Ditto!

TOPV on February 2, 2008 at 12:40 PM

So should we vote for those commanders too?

Just A Grunt on February 2, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Wesley Clark was a commander, wasn’t he? Heck, he even appeared on a gay magazine cover with his shirt unbuttoned. Just reaching across the aisle. It’s a new and different day, my friends.

a capella on February 2, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Anybody seen Gen Honore? He is retired now.

Just A Grunt on February 2, 2008 at 12:45 PM

“DON’T GET STUCK ON McSTUPID!”

Tony737 on February 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

We’re about 20 years behind Europe. Looks like we’ll start to see the rise of a nationalist party here too.

JiangxiDad on February 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Dude, this primary is OVER.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:31 AM

um, latest poll i saw shows them tied going into Tuesday. WTF do you mean ‘over’?

Midas on February 2, 2008 at 1:45 PM

When do we stop bashin Mav and unite to defeat Billary?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Unite with McCainiac the Manchurian candidate? NEVER

bill30097 on February 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM

When do we stop bashin Mav and unite to defeat Billary?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

There is little difference between the two when in office.

You cannot see that?

Kini on February 2, 2008 at 2:24 PM

um, latest poll i saw shows them tied going into Tuesday. WTF do you mean ‘over’?

Keep grasping that straw. After Tuesday, reality will be much more clear.

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 2, 2008 at 2:25 PM

When do we stop bashin Mav and unite to defeat Billary?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 2, 2008 at 11:26 AM

As soon as the Republican voters pull their heads out of their collective asses.

I’m not a Romney guy. I could care less that Hewitt regularly craws out from under Romney’s desk, wipes his mouth off and does his radio show.

But I am starting to think I may vote for Romney. I was for Duncan Hunter, then Fred. I like Ron Pauls domestic policy (here) but will never vote for a ‘blame America’ or a 9-11 truther. On top of that ensuring John McCain does NOT get the republican nomination is my #1 priority. A vote for Huckabee or Ron Paul is a vote FOR McCain and all he represents (Amnesty, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman)… and that is unacceptable.

Romney I can live with… especially if he picks someone like Duncan Hunter as his VP.

BadBrad on February 2, 2008 at 2:26 PM

I’m late to the discussion so I beg your pardon if this has already been said: Sheesh, this makes me retch! When you look up the definition of “RINO” you will find “John McCain.” Taxes, First Amendment, Border Security/Immigration; his stances and his rhetoric (“I am conservative”) are outrageous!!! It is pathetic that this man will be the Republican nominee for the Presidency. And, what’s more pathetic is that I will ultimately vote for this b*stard if he gets the nomination! (Go Mitt!). Two issues give him only a slightly marginal advantage over Billary, IMHO: First, his Second Amendment support is better that “Pantsuit.” Yes, I have seen where he wants to close the gunshow “loophole” and I certainly disagree with him on that (Cold dead hands is my motto). However, compared to Billary, he is the lesser weevil on that score. Second, with regard to SCOTUS appointments, I acknowlege he cannot be trusted but at least the hard-core conservatives have a chance of leveraging him into some conservative appointments. Let’s face it, Stevens and Bader-Ginsburg are the next ones up to retire, and the last thing I want to do is give the appointment of replacements to that “Stand by your man” scum.

second digit on February 2, 2008 at 2:33 PM

You mean like Kerry, Kennedy, and Gore?

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 12:28 PM

Not to forget both Clintons.

Entelechy on February 2, 2008 at 2:39 PM

um, latest poll i saw shows them tied going into Tuesday. WTF do you mean ‘over’?

Keep grasping that straw. After Tuesday, reality will be much more clear.

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 2, 2008 at 2:25 PM

Well, you can call a tie in the polls a straw if you wish. Yes, I’m eager to see how the race pans out when we truly get some states where independents and democrats can’t vote in the republican primary.

And I’d rather grasp at straws than vote for the liberal establishments favorite ‘republican’ Again, if McCain wins the nomination and loses in the general, it won’t be my fault for not voting for him – it’ll be your fault for foisting a crappy candidate on the rest of us.

Midas on February 2, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Not to forget both Clintons.

Entelechy on February 2, 2008 at 2:39 PM

The Clintons are a little different. They weren’t members of the elite growing up but their daughter Chelsea is a preppie.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Buy Danish, look into Hillary’s family, schooling, and while Bill grew up poor, look where he went to school. Yes, they are the elite, even if he was born/grew up in Hope, AK.

Hypocrits all…

Entelechy on February 2, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Entelechy on February 2, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Neither of them were members of the upper classes. They went to elite colleges, but they were not part of that set growing up.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM

So McCain was trying to get a VP slot on the ticket he was campaigning against? On the anti-war ticket he was campaigning against? Doubt it.

RightOFLeft on February 2, 2008 at 3:48 PM

maybe George Soros will buy John McCain his own John Kerry V.P.?

DANEgerus on February 2, 2008 at 6:08 PM

You wanna dig up the past? McCain has never been anywhere near as liberal as Romney was as governor of Mass.

jgapinoy on February 2, 2008 at 7:59 PM

McVain is part of a sleeper cell of scocialist in the republican party. He gets in acts like he’s one of the boys them BOOM he blows up the Constitution and everything conservatives stand for. He was in that pow camp for too long.

Stockholm syndrome: A phenomenon in which a hostage begins to identify with and grow sympathetic to his or her captor.

He says he’ll aways hate the gooks (which is good), but he also votes against things that will strengthen America. I think it’s stockholm syndrome.

HotAirExpert on February 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM