Great post, very informative. Have learned a lot from your site…….

WTF? I mean, seriously: WTF?!?!?!

I’m really baffled at how conservatives have gone all moon-eyed for Mitt.

I mean, think about it. As Governor this guy was pro-choice, pro-amnesty, pro-Ted Kennedy. Now that he’s running in a Prez primary, suddenly he’s Ann Coulter with balls.

So what does this tell us about Mitt? That he will pander to whatever will make him popular at the moment. Now take a second and think about what President Romney will do under the constant, daily pressure of the national MSM (in the unlikely event he could even win a general).

Do we want to nominate a windsock just because he blows our way at the moment?

It pains me to say this, but McCain would probably be a more conservative President than Romney, just because he’s ornery.

McGuyver…the most fundamental point that a “non Christian” is missing is the fact that this great country was founded on fundamental Judeo/Christian values and I am and will not apologize for having my free will to express those beliefs. If I am further “ruining” the respect for Christians for my belief..am I suppose to shake rattle and shrival away because you don’t agree with me or respect my faith to begin with???? I think not… I will say what I believe in..which is the very thing you are trying to say I don’t have the right to say..so who’s being the hyprocrite here??? I’m not telling you or anyone else on this board to believe me…I simply addressing Bryan’s comment about why so many have a problem with his Mormonism…I just stated something that many on here are thinking but are too afraid to say it right out. Does that make sense to you now????!! I think not.

Regardless of who takes the lead, there is a chance there. C’mon! It would be them against Hildabeast and/or Hussein! Coulter is right on at least one thing: This is a gimme if we don’t mess it up.

If the conservative base become fundamentally irreconciled to a Republican Party seen as disastrously liberal on social policy, immigration, and so forth, the far-right constituency of the party may bolt the coalition never to return……

Does it matter that one year he is a liberal Republican in the Pataki, Whitman model….heck yes! Does it matter that suddenly many of his views changed? Yes! I still do not know why the very people who rightly went after Kerry for flip flopping, support this guy. Don’t bite your nose to spite your face. arizonateacher on February 2, 2008 at 7:34 PM

I believe Mitt was 100% sincere as a liberal. Now, I believe he’s 100% sincere as a conservative. I really do believe he is a conservative and would govern as such. Does his flip/flop bother me. Oh yah! This year is not about good choices though, it’s about the least bad one.

TexasBella on February 3, 2008 at 2:13 AM

Meant no harm. My work used to center around the over 50 crowd here in AZ so I’ve become sensitized to the ways that our politicians communicate to an important constituency here in snow-bird country and how they respond in turn.

My dad has been having fun for years pushing my buttons on the issues of Soc. Sec. and Medicare.

He gets a pass though because when he retired he said he’d rather join the communist party than AARP.

Well, I just spent an afternoon dancing around like a lunatic on a street corner here in AZ holding up a Mitt sign to rally support on Tues. Man, it would be so sweet to see McCain defeated right here in his home state.
Lots of positive feedback over all. Only negatives were shrieks from Cankels supporters and some stern sour-pusses shaking their heads in bitter disapproval.
I did notice the cottony hue of the head shaker’s heads and that they tended to be driving cars w/ out of state plates.
D’ya think it would have been too over the top to scream ” RESIST THE GERONTOCRACY!!!!”?

Deety on February 2, 2008 at 7:21 PM

Easy on the older folks, my father who is 77 supports Mitt Romney wholeheartedly. He even mentioned to me that Fox News was blasting Mitt while turning McCain into their golden boy and he refused to watch any longer.

This isn’t an age thing, it’s a common sense thing.

Deety on February 2, 2008 at 7:21 PM

I hear that – I got a friendly honk when I was putting out signs in NW Tucson. 10 down, 5 more accounted for, getting more soon.

JustTruth101 on February 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Yes, for the most part. I have a hard-a#$ friend of mine playing with me today saying he’s voting for John McCain. I tore him a new a-hole (all in a nice fun joking way). “If you want McCain, that’s fine I’ll let the air out of your tires on Tues so you’re not going anywhere biotch!”

On a side note, I can’t believe how easy it is to talk people into voting for Mitt! Geez, i wish I didn’t have so much studying to do…today I convinced 3 gals at the nail salon, I convinced the cashier in Walgreen’s, really pissed off some chick in line at Walgreen’s (Mitt ain’t getting her vote!) and I even convinced a wildly liberal family member to vote for Mitt in the primary Tuesday. So how many is that for today…5…I know it won’t make a difference, but I feel like I gotta try.

Gooooo Mitt!

arizonateacher on February 2, 2008 at 7:34 PM

And what about Huckabee changing his views depending on the polls?

Bryan I am bewildered at your lack of understanding the hearts and minds of your evangelical friends as you put it.

If you understood us..you’d understand it goes against all our natural grain to vote for a President over our beloved nation..a contender who happens to worship a false God…one other than the One True God who has blessed this country for 200 plus years for his god, if you’ve read up on their doctrine..is not in any remote way the same God we know in our hearts that is God of the Bible.
hotvol on February 2, 2008 at 5:35 PM

It’s real simple……

You wanted (speaking to Americans) a country in where you have complete religious freedom to worship however you please.

Because of this, this country has had the greatest expression of religious varieties out the wahzoo.

As such, from this very basic premise, one cannot use religion as the basis for electing someone fairly, everything else being equal.

That is the most fundamental point that you “Christians” are missing.

But apparently you’d rather vote for one of the ten most corrupt politicians.

As such you will further ruin the respect that “Christians” have, even at this point, because you are so biased towards Huckabee exclusively because of his religion.

Which in turn, will repel more people away from your religion and assist in making you irrelevant, not because you stood on principle mind you, but because you are being a hypocrite, in that, you sacrificed your Christian principles, voting for a corrupt politician in the likes of Bil Clinton.

Does that make sense to you?

That doesn’t have anything to do with Romney’s lack of core political convictions. Fact is that he will do and say whatever it takes to get whichever political audience he is speaking to on his side.

And it isn’t just a one or two year old thing. He’s done it in this campiagn – Michigan ring a bell.

Yesterday on Hannity, Santorum actually said that Romney’s conversion is about two weeks old but he is certain it is heart felt. Wish I could find the transcripts or audio. Any suggestions on where to look? Not up on Hannity.com.

Most Mormons are, if anything, on the right end of social conservatism.

In my opinion most baptist are good people too, and like mormons are on the right end of social conservatism. The irony among all the religious in fighting is that we all have a lot more in common than we are different, but some have to focus it all on the differences.