Tammy Bruce: Come to think of it, I might vote for Hillary over McCain too

posted at 10:15 pm on February 1, 2008 by Allahpundit

The right-wing blogosphere’s going to be an interesting place this summer.

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The right-wing blogosphere’s going to be an interesting place this summer.

So when are you going to announce a write-in campaign? :-)

If memory serves, Tammy is an ex-Dem, so that is not exactly surprising.

steveegg on February 1, 2008 at 10:17 PM

In spite of all of the angst, hand wringing and irrational threats, I predict that everyone will fall into line once Romney finally concedes.

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM

It’s because McCain is a Morlock
and Hillary is an Eloi

Kini on February 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Hannity does not get it.

The reason many of us will NEVER vote for McCain is the sheer pleasure he showed while telling COnservatives we needed to bend over, grab our ankles and accept his amnesty plan, gang of 14, assualt on free speech, global warming nonsense, etc.

He enjoyed “beating” conservatives every chance he got.

He hated us first.
Or
He drew first blood.

EJDolbow on February 1, 2008 at 10:22 PM

I don’t intend to fall in line. How can a handful of States decide the winner? I live in CA. and haven’t voted yet. There are more than two Parties on the General Election ballot, I will vote against McCain and the Beast/Obami

calgrammy on February 1, 2008 at 10:22 PM

In spite of all of the angst, hand wringing and irrational threats, I predict that everyone will fall into line once Romney finally concedes.
JayHaw Phrenzie on February 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Do you mean sell out? Do you mean reward a liar and a man who has total contempt for conservatives?
If you vote for this man, than you are just as stupid as he thinks you are, and you deseve what he gives you.

paulsur on February 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Tammy said herself on H&C that she was a Dem. Either way her point is taken.

Spirit of 1776 on February 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM

the kossacks tok over the dem party.

the dlc is nothing now. the dems are leftists.

SADLY: the right, conservatives, need to do the sdame thing wioth the gop.

YUP: 20 years after reagan and the rockefeller wing of the GOP owns the party: spector/graham/mccain/chafee/martinez/smith/snowe et al.

we need to take it back.

electing mccain won’t achieve that.

mccain in 2008 is more liberal than clinton was in 1992.

i could NEVER vote for him.

reliapundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Gosh, its so easy to get Sean totally flummoxed, isnt it?

All takes is for someone he thinks will agree with him not to agree with him.

Always Right on February 1, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Just got an email solicitation from “Catholics for McCain”. For Real.
I told them Judas doesn’t get a nickel from me.

bbz123 on February 1, 2008 at 10:24 PM

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM

If there’s one thing I’m totally sick of, it’s the “fall in line” bit RE: McCain. Not sure what it is about it, but it annoys me.

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:25 PM

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Don’t count on it. A lot of people feel the way AC and TB do. If we are going to head for the wall at 80 mph, it’s better to have a Democrat at the wheel. That way, people are more likely to fight for the wheel and if we hit the wall anyway, better to have Hillary driving.

TheBigOldDog on February 1, 2008 at 10:25 PM

The Moderate Republicans are trying to teach the Conservatives “our Place”

It will make millions of us HAPPY to see them defeated in November.

EJDolbow on February 1, 2008 at 10:25 PM

In spite of all of the angst, hand wringing and irrational threats, I predict that everyone will fall into line once Romney finally concedes.

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM

So does McCain. And without his making any effort to go back to the right on any issue. He can keep Juan Hernandez around and continue to say that he will sign an amnesty bill, and continue the class warfare rhetoric and continue to be conservative on just about nothing. And we’ll fall right in line.

This is what angers me so.

Hawkins1701 on February 1, 2008 at 10:26 PM

Don’t count on it. A lot of people feel the way AC and TB do. If we are going to head for the wall at 80 mph, it’s better to have a Democrat at the wheel. That way, people are more likely to fight for the wheel and if we hit the wall anyway, better to have Hillary driving.

Also worthy of though is that the Republicans in the house won’t fight a President McCain, and they will fight a Dem president. So on the big issues that McCain will put on the table (amnesty for ex), I’d like to see the conservative party, such as it is, trying to thwart it, not assist it.

Spirit of 1776 on February 1, 2008 at 10:27 PM

Pardon my typo: …worthy of thought…

Spirit of 1776 on February 1, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Regardless of Maverick’s election bid, conservatism is alive, but no longer the majority of the party.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:29 PM

“In spite of all of the angst, hand wringing and irrational threats, I predict that everyone will fall into line once Romney finally concedes.”

Yeah, I’ll fall inline to put my enemy in front of me (not vote or vote for Obama) as opposed to my enemy in my rear (ole’ Maverick)

TOPV on February 1, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Hell, I’ll vote for Mayor McCheese before McCain, but Hillary? Only if I intended to pull a Baldwin and leave the country. Oh wait…

Big Daddy Cool on February 1, 2008 at 10:30 PM

Conservative crack-up mania!

Conservative crack-up mania isn’t the fact that we’re going to refuse to vote for McCain. Conservative crack-up mania is the fact that conservatives are in the process of nominating him in the first place. That’s what’s causing this entire mess.

Gregor on February 1, 2008 at 10:30 PM

Let nothing but fear, and
fear itself not hold you
back!hehe

canopfor on February 1, 2008 at 10:30 PM

In case you RINO’s are missing the message, the conservatives are in the process of taking a pound of flesh out of your puppet liberal. If we lose this nomination, you aren’t going to win either.

FWIW – I would rather live with a small group of like minded folks than a large group comprised of like minded folks and a bunch of BS artists. Get with the program or go to the dark side …..

David in ATL on February 1, 2008 at 10:30 PM

Stay at home is one thing, but Hildabeast?!

Where is all this support for McCrankypants coming from, anyway? I never understood it.

PolitiNOOB on February 1, 2008 at 10:30 PM

LMAO at Alan Colmes.

His reactions are priceless.

The Ugly American on February 1, 2008 at 10:31 PM

It is one thing to say that you won’t or can’t vote for McCain. I respect that view. Write in Fred Thompson or Rush Limbaugh or whoever you truly wanted to be President.

However, it is entirely something different – and for me unacceptable – to say that you’ll vote for Clinton.

Folks who embrace such a view simply do not, it seems to me, have any credibility in criticizing the lack of conservativism in McCain.

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:31 PM

Mitt Romney was on the LA KNX 640 AM one million viewership popular John & Ken radio show today, for 20 minutes. I heard only the last 10 but he sounded very good.

J & K were tough but polite and let Mr. Romney make his case. Most here would have been happy with what he said on immigration, taxes, credits for savings accounts, and a series of other conservative-hot issues.

John and Ken are working avidly on his behalf, and they are independents.

Entelechy on February 1, 2008 at 10:32 PM

Well, at least now the lunatics are out of the box and are self-identifying. Crybabies. That is just such juvenile stuff. I don’t like the candidate on my team so I am going to vote for the other team to “punish” my team.

Oh, crap … the other team won … now I am REALLY in trouble …

It’s called cutting off your nose to spite your face. It is called doing something really stupid because you are throwing a tantrum. It is an emotional reaction, not one well thought out … or thought out at all. It is the stuff one would expect from morons and emotionally unstable people. Narcissists act like that. They think their vote is so bloody important that they are going to “punish” the party.

crosspatch on February 1, 2008 at 10:32 PM

Michael Savage brought up a good point about McCain today. He said that normally this is when Republican candidates run to the right (in the primaries) to get the nomination. Then, after getting the nomination they will move towards the middle.

So, what you have seen from McCain in these primaries is as good as it gets. He will never become more conservative than he is right now – and that is scary!

joncoltonis on February 1, 2008 at 10:33 PM

It’s not very “conservative” to be a quitter, a whiner, or poor sport.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:33 PM

steveegg on February 1, 2008 at 10:17 PM

she is not an ex dem she is a dem. I can respect her opinion unlike the rest of the sheep that just vote on the fact if they have an {r} or {d} after the name she choices on the substance of the person .

Mojack420 on February 1, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Conservative crack-up mania!

myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 10:35 PM

Ronald Reagan would want each and every one of you to strap on a helmet. Batten down the hatches, and beat Hillary Clinton back to the stone age. Mav and Ronnie were buddies, and Nancy simply adores him. Suck it up. Let’s roll.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM

I don’t like the candidate on my team so I am going to vote for the other team to “punish” my team.

crosspatch on February 1, 2008 at 10:32 PM

Most of the time the member of your team will be beneficial to your team and help your team. Where does he help besides defense, where he even has major weaknesses? Judges? Taxes? Free Speech? Immigration? ANWR?

He has very little benefit. I’m not saying I won’t vote for him when the time comes (I haven’t fully made up my mind), but he’s not exactly a reliable member of the team. As a matter of fact, he’s gone after and fought for the other tem quite a few times.

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:37 PM

In spite of all of the angst, hand wringing and irrational threats, I predict that everyone will fall into line once Romney finally concedes.

JayHaw Phrenzie on February 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM

I predict a blowout if he faces Obama, with a low GOP base turnout. It’s going to hurt him badly, and also burn down the GOP base in Congress. I predict a tight race against Hillary with larger base turnout. If you want your boy to have a chance, better hope Hillary gets the nod.

a capella on February 1, 2008 at 10:38 PM

YUP: 20 years after reagan and the rockefeller wing of the GOP owns the party: spector/graham/mccain/chafee/martinez/smith/snowe et al.

Dude, hard-core conservatives are a majority in the GOP, and a minority in the electorate. The only reason you see moderate Republicans with any power is because they are a swing vote, and need to be courted if the GOP is to ever vote as a majority in Congress. What seems to be happening in the right-wing blogosphere is an effort to classify more and more conservatives as “moderates” or “RINOs” on account of a few perceived transgressions. When conservative voters refuse to support a candidate with some moderate tendencies over Hillary Clinton, in a misguided effort to purify the party via a “lose-to-win” gambit, they only end up marginalizing themselves. I’m not sure what purpose this is supposed to serve, but believe me, we moderates will be more than happy to take the reins.

Big S on February 1, 2008 at 10:38 PM

joncoltonis on February 1, 2008 at 10:33 PM

How do you know this? Was McCain POTUS in your previous life? Clue us in Hiroshi.

myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 10:39 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM

AMEN!

myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 10:41 PM

It’s not very “conservative” to be a quitter, a whiner, or poor sport.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:33 PM

From your posts it is obvious you are unfamiliar with Conservatism.

It is a set of beliefs and values — not a political party.

EJDolbow on February 1, 2008 at 10:41 PM

11th Commandment.

W]hen the chips are down and the decisions are made as to who the candidates will be, then the 11th commandment prevails and everybody goes to work, and that is: Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.

Ronald Wilson Reagan

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Nancy simply adores him.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Did she ever confirm her endorsement? Or is it still one of Drudge sources that hasn’t been identified or confirmed? I ask honestly.

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:42 PM

Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 10:41 PM

See, therein…nah, too easy.

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM

I’m not a Republican. I happen to be an individual who agrees with the Woody Allen character at the end of SLEEPER, “political solutions don’t work.”

With that in mind, the idiot RINOs here don’t understand the point that the rational people are making about electing McCain as president and how he will be able to enact Demosocialist agendas with more ease than Hobama.

There are two basic forms of political parties, STRONG and WEAK. A STRONG party is one in which the party central authority has actual control over the -privilege- of party membership. This form is most common in multiparty parliamentary democracies and is mandated by the need for party discipline in such circumstances. England has STRONG parties, and as long as the party leader has control over the caucus, he or she can expell “mavericks,” as Tony Blair did to George Galloway.

In this country, we have a WEAK party system, where the central party authority has NO control over the party label. That’s why anyone from a LaRouchite to McCain to Ron Paul to David Duke can join the Republican Party and have it stick. Discipline in such parties comes from external forces, such as being in the minority, or having to deal with an executive with veto power from the opposite party.
(although, as this Congress proves, that’s not always the case)

Notice how Dubya grew more of a “surging” spine after the ‘06 loss? That’s not a coincidence. The greatest amount of party indiscipline in a WP system comes with a party that has both the executive and a -small- majority in the legislature, since mavericks will be disproportionately rewarded for being dogs in the manger. (see McCain and Jeffords) Once that margin is lost, then the Executive can use his veto threat to actually cause his minority party faction to obstruct majority party stupidity and get more things done.

That’s the “paradox” that you’re seeing now with Bush.

What that means for a McCain presidency is that he will be able to work with a majority party Dem situation and split the discipline of the minority Reps by siphoning off enough RINO legislators to block any filibuster or any other procedural block to abominations like the Fairness Doctrine, etc.

ebrown2 on February 1, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Mav and Ronnie were buddies, and Nancy simply adores him. Suck it up. Let’s roll.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Now, there’s a really good reason to vote for him. Nancy likes him. Sounds like sound tactical thinking.

a capella on February 1, 2008 at 10:44 PM

Remember this my friends. You can always turn a negative into a positive. Look at this: Conservatives lost this primary. Granted. However, they can come in late and put Hillary back into obscurity. The same thing happened to Ted Kennedy. If you run you must win, or your done forever.
Can someone tell me the last time a person won a nomination then won the following primary to be the nominee again. Please don’t embarass me if I’m wrong.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:45 PM

McCain agrees with the democrats on ALL domestic issues, he is the king of compromise, he will NOT appoint conservative judges, and that he will NOT veto the very kind of generation-damaging legislation that he has SPONSORED. R’s won’t fight an R the way they would fight a D. I guarantee you, McCain WILL sign the fairness doctrine if it gets to his desk, if for no other reason than out of spite.

We all know that is true, so how can anyone justify voting for him? We know that’s the type of person he is, he’ll kill free speech for spite. Who here thinks that he won’t?

It doesn’t matter what happens in Iraq once we lose free speech. Losing free speech, now THAT would be “game over, man.” We will have to have secret web sites from which to plan “the resistance.”

Do I sound crazy? Ask Ezra Levant about gov’t persecution for free speech, then come back and tell me I’m nuts.

If Hillary/Obama take the same positions as McCain, the country is going to be ruined anyway…I would rather have the damage done by a declared democrat with a Congress fighting him/her along the way for 4 years, than have the damage inflicted by a democrat POSING as a republican doing the damage with Congressional cooperation from which the conservative movement may never recover.

If McCain gets the nomination, the country goes to hell regardless of who is President, and I hope the press slays St. John the way we all predict that they will, so that we can mount a counter attack in 2012.

JustTruth101 on February 1, 2008 at 10:45 PM

“If we take the widest and wisest view of a Cause, there is no such thing as a Lost Cause, because there is no such thing as a Gained Cause. We fight for lost causes because we know that our defeat and dismay may be the preface to our successors’ victory, though that victory itself will be temporary; we fight rather to keep something alive than in the expectation that it will triumph.” —T.S. Eliot

You fight even for lost causes, not throw up your hands and give in and not fight; or worse: switch sides and fight for the other side.

What are the best chances for our cause? A Hillary election? I think not.

I’m fighting alongside McCain. Even if, as I admit, half the time I have to fight him as well as the other side.

Others can choose another path.

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:45 PM

You know the funny thing about all this? The more that the conservative talk show hosts rail against McCain, the more likely that people who don’t listen to Right Wing talk show hosts will vote for them.

So with all these ‘holier than thou’ talk show hosts who have never been elected to anything in their lives. . . they are making it more likely that McCain wins the presidency.

It’s pretty funny really. When talking about ‘conservative’, ask yourself this. . . would Jesse Helms consider it ‘conservative’. What do you think Jesse Helms would have thought about the ‘conservative’ nature of ruDe, Mitt, John, and Mike.

If you think he would consider any of them conservative, well you’d be wrong. Being against McCain is one thing and fine. But being ‘for’ Romney because he is a ‘conservative’ is a laugh.

I find the whole thing massively entertaining.

ThackerAgency on February 1, 2008 at 10:45 PM

I’m referring to losers in presidential elections by the way. sorry.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Remarks in New York City at a Reception for Delegates to the State Republican Convention

June 17, 1982

I want to tell you, if I could just say one thing — I know I have to be very careful, because you have primaries to go and so forth, and so I’ve got to stay neutral until the candidates are selected — except for one: the first Republican woman candidate here in the history of our party. But I know you’ll have a spirited convention, and you’ll have a spirited primary. But remember one thing — it came from the West, I know, but I’m still singing it – the greatest thing that’s happened for the Republican Party is, when the chips are down and the decisions are made as to who the candidates will be, then the 11th commandment prevails and everybody goes to work, and that is: Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1982/61782e.htm

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 10:46 PM

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Really are you so sure about that , Reagan was a great man who had principles I don’t see him selling out those same principles for the anti conservative who is trying with all his heart to destroy the house Reagan built.

I will not sell out my principles to a man I loath just because he has an {r} after his name .

Mojack420 on February 1, 2008 at 10:46 PM

or worse: switch sides and fight for the other side.

Just following the mavericks lead.

EnochCain on February 1, 2008 at 10:47 PM

We have had a spirited primary thats for sure..

Time to bring this thing together.

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Geez lets just hope Obama wins at this point. It’s not worth it to have McCain and another 4 years of lunatics, this time on BOTH sides, becoming unhinged.

Dash on February 1, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Really are you so sure about that , Reagan was a great man who had principles I don’t see him selling out those same principles for the anti conservative who is trying with all his heart to destroy the house Reagan built.

I will not sell out my principles to a man I loath just because he has an {r} after his name .

Mojack420 on February 1, 2008 at 10:46 PM

Did you know Reagan signed an amnesty bill and appointed two moderates to the courty. Please learn a little about the man before you refer to him. He’s kinda a legend around here.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Looking at poll numbers, it seems to me that the extreme right wing anti-McCain types have already been marginalized. I’m sure that’s fueling much of their (hopefully) temporary insanity.

myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 10:49 PM

“Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.”

Boy, the cynicism of using this quote to support McCain is unbelieveable.

ebrown2 on February 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM

Just following the mavericks lead.

He’s gone with the left on Iraq?

And the war against the Islamists?

And earmarks and spending?

And abortion?

I could go on and on and on …..

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM

Did you know Reagan signed an amnesty bill and appointed two moderates to the courty. Please learn a little about the man before you refer to him. He’s kinda a legend around here.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Did you know that amnesty had pretty much never been tried before so few knew how it would turn out, and he had a Democratic-controlled Congress that wouldn’t have accepted a John Roberts-type? Did you also know that Reagan called it amnesty, something McCain won’t admit?

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM

No but he has gone with them on several other things and I do not trust him not to switch on those things you listed if by some chance he is elected president.

EnochCain on February 1, 2008 at 10:51 PM

myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 10:49 PM

We’ve not had a fully closed primary yet, and the head-to-head numbers are unreliable.

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:51 PM

He’s gone with the left on Iraq?

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM

What in the H E double hockeysticks are you talking about dude? He’s been right of right on the war with the surge ,etc. Smoke another one!

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:51 PM

This stuff is getting old, it is starting to sound like a little kid not getting what they want. I am a conservative, if anyone thinks Clinton will apoint conservatives judges they just don’t get it. McCain may not but he is more likely to. This kind of stuff you can’t go back and fix, much like Iraq.

KBird on February 1, 2008 at 10:52 PM

temporary insanity.

myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 10:49 PM

Respectfully, when 20 million undocumented workers start collecting welfare, social security, and the new government funded health care, combined with McCain/Lieberman energy tax and continued refusal to drill ANWR, inflation skyrockets, people lose jobs, crime goes up, and order starts to break down.

I will be fine. I have means. I feel sorry for those who don’t.

JustTruth101 on February 1, 2008 at 10:52 PM

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM

Nope. Only on taxes, judges, immigration, free speech, ANWR…

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:52 PM

What in the H E double hockeysticks are you talking about dude? He’s been right of right on the war with the surge ,etc. Smoke another one!

That’s my point, my friend.

See the question mark at the end?

Read again.

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Ronald Reagan would want each and every one of you to strap on a helmet. Batten down the hatches, and beat Hillary Clinton back to the stone age. Mav and Ronnie were buddies, and Nancy simply adores him. Suck it up. Let’s roll.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:36 PM

DUDE!! No he would NOT. Ronald Reagan was a man of ideas. He specifically said that we are not to sell out our values simply to swell the ranks of the party.

You should read Reagan’s speeches and writings — you will learn a great deal.

EJDolbow on February 1, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Gitmo, global warming…

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:53 PM

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:50 PM

So you admit that the greatest conservative sacrificed some of his principles to move forward. Please keep making my points for me, preciate it.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:53 PM

me bad.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:54 PM

Most of the time the member of your team will be beneficial to your team and help your team. Where does he help besides defense, where he even has major weaknesses? Judges? Taxes? Free Speech? Immigration? ANWR?
amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:37 PM

McCain is strongest on defense, and his position on defense is the worst it can possibly be: in favor of attacking “poor, innocent Iraqi children,” and opposed to harming “innocent” terrorists.

Newsflash: if you give voters a choice between a Democrat and another Democrat, it’s more than a little bit moronic to think they will vote for a Republican. And once McCain wins the primary, the liberal media will turn on him. What is the rule of thumb – Liberal media support gives you a 15% bonus. And they’re not just going to forget about him, they’ll go after him every bit as visciously as they did Reagan, Bush, Dole and Bush. So you take whatever McCain is doing in the polls right now and subtract 30%, ’cause that’s what you’re going to see next November.

Don’t worry your moderate little heads: McCain is going to lose with or without us conservatives. All we are doing is making damn sure it is WITHOUT us.

We’ve spent 28 years now pushing the moderates’ turds through for them. Now it’s their turn.

Don’t get me wrong; I’m under no delusions that middle-of-the-road twits will ever magically start pulling their own weight. That’s impossible – pretty much by definition.

Our only hope is that moderates will not just fail, but fail so miserably and utterly humiliatingly that they will figure out the only way to get anything they want is to stay out of the way next time.

logis on February 1, 2008 at 10:54 PM

EJDolbow on February 1, 2008 at 10:53 PM

Reagan sacrificed principle to sign an amnesty deal and appoint two moderate supreme court judges. dude?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:55 PM

We have had a spirited primary thats for sure..

Time to bring this thing together.

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Nope. Sorry. No can do. Y’all think the distrust is just temporary, but it is bone deep. Good luck with your fundraising.

a capella on February 1, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Nope. Only on taxes, judges, immigration, free speech, ANWR…

He supports extending the Bush tax cuts. He’s on record.

Clinton and Obama will not extend them.

He voted for every one of Bush’s judicial nominees.

Immigration: He’s been terrible.

Free speech: Terrible but inconsequential. McCain-Feingold is easily circumvented.

ANWR: Bad.

I still give him a C+. And at least we have some ability to influence his future grades.

With Clinton and Obama, we have no influence. None.

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:56 PM

myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 10:49 PM

?

McCain hasn’t had to sacrifice his principles. He’s a Senator who can vote the way he wishes. He willingly chose to vote against conservatives on taxes, judges, global warming, enhanced interrogation, immigration, free speech and ANWR.

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Maybe everyone will fall into line behind McCain,but my family and friends will not be part of it.It’s the principle of it.We can not vote or contribute to a man we do not believe in and do not trust.It probably won’t make a dimes worth of difference in the grand scheme of things but it does to us!If folks want to back Mccain more power to you.He seems to us to be the Bob Dole of 2008.The establishment is behind him and the media love him.Once nominated however the media will turn on McCain and I still say he’s gonna get beat but good this Fall but who knows.All I know is win or lose he’ll do it without our help.

PTN 39 on February 1, 2008 at 10:56 PM

logis on February 1, 2008 at 10:54 PM

I believe the MSM will slay St. john…I have to remember that, because the alternative, that he could actually win, is chilling.

Do you think there is any chance whatsoever that Mitt performs a miracle on Tuesday?

JustTruth101 on February 1, 2008 at 10:57 PM

He supports extending the Bush tax cuts. He’s on record.

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:56 PM

Too bad he voted against them multiple times and supports a tax on gas to fight global warming.

Terrible but inconsequential. McCain-Feingold is easily circumvented.

Inconsequential? Seriously? That’s one heck of an excuse: Yeah, but you can find ways around it.

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:57 PM

My 83% friend is not my 100% enemy..

McCain has a 83% lifetime ACU rating..

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Nope. Sorry. No can do. Y’all think the distrust is just temporary, but it is bone deep. Good luck with your fundraising.

a capella on February 1, 2008 at 10:56 PM

That will wear off when you watch the Clinton/Maverick debate or as I call it War Hero vs The Clinton(s)

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Maybe everyone will fall into line behind McCain,but my family and friends will not be part of it.

I respect that.

I can’t respect the decision to vote for Clinton or Obama.

Now that’s dumb.

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Don’t worry your moderate little heads: McCain is going to lose with or without us conservatives. All we are doing is making damn sure it is WITHOUT us.

Finally, we get to have the party for ourselves? Awesome! Um, don’t expect us to welcome you back with open arms in 2012, OK?

Big S on February 1, 2008 at 10:58 PM

I’m going to CPAC next week, and I bet we might see some tear gas or lock-ins when Mav rolls up in that piece.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:58 PM

McCain has a 83% lifetime ACU rating..

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 10:57 PM

Yes, we all know. Everyone cracks that out. Do tell, what’s his score for 2006? What’s the score for other conservatives?

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 10:59 PM

The thing that is gnawing at me more and more these days is how effed up our system is for choosing a president. For gawd’s sake, are you telling me that Hillary, Obama, McCain, and Romney are the best we can do? Swear to god, MAYBE Romney would make the top 50 if we truly were interested in finding the smartest, most accomplished, and competent people possible to lead the free world. It appears that our system is such now that we will always generate only second and third tier individuals for the most important job in the world.

Sugar Land on February 1, 2008 at 10:59 PM

Jesus is not on the ballot and if he were I bet you would not vote for him.

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 10:59 PM

I am not telling anyone not to vote for McVain I am saying for myself I will not vote for him ever .

I have to live with myself and i can not look myself in the mirror if i vote for this man .

fool me once shame on you
fool me twice shame on me.

Mojack420 on February 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Nobody is perfect.

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Inconsequential? Seriously? That’s one heck of an excuse: Yeah, but you can find ways around it.

Bush signed the bill and I still voted for him. Did you?

Second, how has the legislation prevented you from expressing your political views?

It’s a dumb, bad law that has had little effect on political discourse.

Seriously, has there been a chilling of political dissent or expression in America since it was enacted?

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM

I’m going to CPAC next week, and I bet we might see some tear gas or lock-ins when Mav rolls up in that piece.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 10:58 PM

Please, please bring a video camera and post every word he says on YouTube. Do you have a YouTube account? I’ll subscribe to it if you do, let me know what it is. Thanks.

JustTruth101 on February 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM

I’ve got some friends with the Mav camp(big suprise), but If I can get Mav to say he’s super duper sorry and he’ll never do it again. Will that suffice?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 11:01 PM

There will be plenty of cameras.

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 11:01 PM

If I can get Mav to say he’s super duper sorry and he’ll never do it again. Will that suffice?

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 11:01 PM

Why would we believe that lie? We don’t believe any of his other lies.

JustTruth101 on February 1, 2008 at 11:02 PM

I am not telling anyone not to vote for McVain I am saying for myself I will not vote for him ever .

I have to live with myself and i can not look myself in the mirror if i vote for this man .

fool me once shame on you
fool me twice shame on me.

Mojack420 on February 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM

1. i’m a lifelong hunter
2. my saw my father march with MLK
3. I had the endorsement of the NRA
4. Smilin’ Ted Kennedy didn’t read my mandated $50 abortion healthcare plan

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 11:02 PM

Finally, we get to have the party for ourselves? Awesome! Um, don’t expect us to welcome you back with open arms in 2012, OK?

Big S on February 1, 2008 at 10:58 PM

You’ll come crawling back…or you’ll grow to enjoy the heel of your Authoritarian Marxist overlords grinding into your neck.

doubleplusundead on February 1, 2008 at 11:03 PM

The 11th Commandment applies only after the selection of the nominee. Tammy Bruce and Ann Coulter (and the rest) are rightly trying to mobilize Republicans to shutting down this McCain thing before it gets out of hand.

By the way, if we decided that it was never ok to speak ill of another Republican, McCain wouldn’t have anything to say.

emailnuevo on February 1, 2008 at 11:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEzi27trV-Q

Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Bush signed the bill and I still voted for him. Did you?

Second, how has the legislation prevented you from expressing your political views?

SteveMG on February 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM

Bush has more than one thing in his favor. Bush supported tax cuts, enhanced interrogation, appointed conservative judges and favors ANWR. When he screws up, like signing the bill, he has a bit more leeway.

As for the consequences, non-profits (such as the Right to Life) can’t take out an issue ad that names a candidate within 30 days of a primary of 60 days of an election. That’s not an infringement of free speech? You’re going to tell me that that hasn’t had consequences?

amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 11:05 PM

I will vote for a write in candidate, never for McNumbnuts.

dogsoldier on February 1, 2008 at 11:05 PM

At the hotel where they always have it, the security is really lax. If anyone is in D.c., you can walk right in that jewel. Great access. Sure to be fireworks between campaigns. Last year it was Mitt vs. Brownback. Pathetic

THE CHOSEN ONE on February 1, 2008 at 11:05 PM

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