Fox News poll: McCain 48, Romney 20
posted at 3:30 pm on February 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Maybe MM’s right. Maybe it’s time to start thinking about vice presidents. Good lord.
Geraghty’s eyeballing the polls and thinks he’s a serious chance of sweeping … the south.
Exit question reprised from earlier this week: Is it possible to buy an election? Exit answer: No it is not.
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Entelechy on February 1, 2008 at 4:21 PM
It wouldn’t make any difference, McDINO-RINO can’t win. I doubt Romney would hang with him, he is way too smart.
leanright on February 1, 2008 at 4:28 PM
It might mean little, but I don’t hate you, and understand you very well. I fear socialism more than many of the other ramblings. It would be very hard to turn back, once unleashed.
Good to win, good for the country, the world, complements his shortcomings, executive and economic soundness, balancing temperament/bulliness, style, etc., etc.
Huckabee brings very little, except his Evangelicals. No harm meant to any of you, here. They would certainly not vote for Obama/Clinton, though some might not vote at all.
Mitt is simply too classy to drive a stake through any of them, and it’s almost too late.
Prediction – if McCain is the ticket, he might carry California – you saw it here.
Entelechy on February 1, 2008 at 4:29 PM
How whiny of us to actually want, I don’t know, a conservative Republican to lead the party. You know, someone conservative on judges, taxes, immigration, the economy, free speech…
Or how about even one of the above?
amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Ann Coulter also said that we have 4 days to save the Republic.
Buy Danish on February 1, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Get prepared for President Hillary or Obama…
There is no VP that McCain could pick to make me vote for him (because he is an old grouchy micromanager so the VP won’t matter irregardless of who they are, unless they have to step into the President slot ).
When the foundation is rotted and has termites (like the Republican Party), it’s time to tear down and build up from scratch. No house can survive this many termites and rot.
TOPV on February 1, 2008 at 4:30 PM
I think, to be brutally honest, that McCain is damaged from his time as a POW. He only confronts those who he considers friends and even if he has a difference of opinion with them they will still go out for a drink. He makes way too much of an effort to work with the Democrats. There is no doubt, that with the number of congressional seats up for grabs this year that the Dems very well could gain control of congress and then the Fairness Doctrine, the amnesty bill and other pieces of liberal legislation would make it to his desk and he would not veto them. He would be whole heartily in favor of the Fairness doctrine now that just about every conservative talk show host has come out against him. He has never stopped at just saying he would veto the Amnesty bill, he has gone on to qualify it by saying such things as it will never reach his desk etc. Well with a Democrat controlled congress these sorts of things certainly will reach his desk. Somebody ask him about pardoning the 2 border agents and see what he says.
Sorry McCain is damaged goods all the way around and I don’t really trust him to confront our enemies. He talks tough but in some of his other press coverage when he is talking about the troops he comes across as grandpa who just wants to get them out of harm’s way so they don’t befall the same fate he did.
Just A Grunt on February 1, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Being a NP voter here in Cali,I can’t even vote for Mitt if I wanted to. Decisions, Decisions.
Sanjoboy on February 1, 2008 at 4:33 PM
We are still dealing with the effects of FDR’s socialism and LBJ’s. Once those programs are in, it’s nearly impossible to get them out.
Combine this with the increasingly unstable world outside our gates, and I probably will vote for whoever the Republicans put up in the general. But this is primaries. Time to fight against the ones who don’t represent my views.
TX Mom on February 1, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Hm. I think Mitt has left some flexibility especially as of late, but I think McCain would rather remove Romney from the political map even at the expense of strengthening his own ticket.
By the way, I think you could be right about Cali.
Spirit of 1776 on February 1, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Every season I hear this, repeatedly. Then, when time comes “It’s good for the country, when asked…”.
I believe they could. The righties, who will vote, the independents who’ll gladly vote, and the few sane lefties would carry them over any of the socialists.
Entelechy on February 1, 2008 at 4:35 PM
+1
Entelechy on February 1, 2008 at 4:37 PM
“over” thats what they want us to think
CaCa on February 1, 2008 at 4:38 PM
I think McCain has got a real shot against Clinton. I just think she’s a terrible candidate, and that America will instinctively recoil from yet another Clinton or Bush in the White House. However, barring another major foreign policy eruption at home or overseas that catches everyone’s attention, I think Obama will swamp McCain, and probably would against Mitt as well.
Dudley Smith on February 1, 2008 at 4:40 PM
SIGH.
mattyj86 on February 1, 2008 at 4:41 PM
How does McCain poll against Obama? Hillary?
How does Mitt poll against Obama? Hillary?
Just curious and I’m too lazy to google it.
pullingmyhairout on February 1, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Interesting scenario.
Unfortunately, the bottom line is: why would anything that McVain promises matter? He’s a liar, he’s dishonest, he’s a corrupt thief and a traitor to the Constitution.
If he were to promise that the Sun would rise in the East tomorrow, I’d still have to be up at sunrise to confirm it.
Misha I on February 1, 2008 at 4:44 PM
If you mean psychologically damaged, I think so too.
Buy Danish on February 1, 2008 at 4:45 PM
He beats them both. However, keep in mind, the same polls showed Carter rolling over Reagan coming out of the conventions. They’re unreliable.
amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 4:46 PM
The New York Post Endorses John McCain For President
bnelson44 on February 1, 2008 at 4:47 PM
As does the well-known conservative publication, the LA Times.
amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 4:49 PM
I think what’s most fascinating to me, card-carrying member of the They All Suck(tm) club, is the sheer amount of lipstick people are willing to apply to a pig like Romney in service to defeating John McCain. It really is amazing.
Centerfire on February 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM
McCain sucks, but he’ll raise taxes less than Obama and Hillary and continue to prosecute the war on terror. Time to fall in line.
phronesis on February 1, 2008 at 4:50 PM
It probably is game over, and being in Texas, I can’t do anything but hope until March 4th. I’ll just cross my fingers, and hope against all odds, that Mitt can pull a “Diego Corrales”.
thirteen28 on February 1, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Looks like I stay home.
voiceofreason on February 1, 2008 at 4:51 PM
I’d have to check a lot of things, but this one I’m pretty sure of. It was fun to read, though :)
Unrelated, if pure sanity would be on the ticket, there are a few others who wouldn’t pass. It’s similar to the “looks” commentary.
Entelechy on February 1, 2008 at 4:51 PM
We’re talking about the man that strongly opposed Bush tax cuts and wants to punish those “greedy” people on Wall Street.
amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Just as Reagan lost to Gerald Ford in 1976, Romney can lose to John McCain in 2008 and continue to improve his credentials with Republican and independent conservative voters.
I wish it were otherwise, but no “conservative” candidate motivated the base enough to consolidate itself, and McCain has an A in voting from the Conservative Union.
Romney, like McCain, has changed positions on certain “button” issues to court conservatives. But Romney has also been handicapped by status and Religion.
When Charles Krauthammer on Fox News gave McCain a pass for misrepresenting Romney’s position on timetables and milestones, I felt sick. I knew it was over in favor of McCain.
Meanwhile, my Democrat, Mrs. Clinton, also looks at risk, and Obama liberal fevah is spreading.
Randy
williars on February 1, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Oh, and supports a 50 cent tax on gasoline to fight “global warming”.
amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Ditto. I take great pride in helping to shut down the Capitol switchboard, along with drowning my elected repesentatives’ offices with FAXes, last Summer. My Senator’s office staffs knew me by the sound of my voice.
Where are the callers now? Maybe not being polled???
McCain’s “Shamnesty”, if fully understood by voters, would sink him easily. Unfortunately, we have a very uninformed electorate.
fred5678 on February 1, 2008 at 4:57 PM
What all of this indicates is that the average GOP voter has gone back to believe what the MSM is selling. They are selling us McCain and will promptly start squashing him after he’s in. No matter who the Dems nominate, November may actually end up worse than the Goldwater massacre for the GOP (which I was around for; yes, I witnessed the birth of dirt.)
That led to the party faction in charge (the conservatives) being repudiated for the next cycle. We need to repudiate the moderates after this one and find a ‘non-neo’ conservative candidate as close to Reagan (principled, visionary, uplifting, and a Great Communicator) as we can.
I figure 4 years of the Dems will likely be enough; trouble is- beside the loss in Iraq (and the trashing of the gains nearly 4,000 of our finest have died for)- how much permanent damage will the super-majority Dems do by then?
michaelo on February 1, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Yes I meant psychology. He strikes me really as a man who works harder on avoiding confrontation then he does on really sticking to some sort of principled stand. He feels comfortable going against Republicans because at the end of the day they are still going to give him a hug and he will be welcomed back into the club.
His recent attacks on Romney regarding timetables particularly got my dander up because they were completely false.
I keep telling people that if all that is required of a president is military service then I should be a shoo in with my 22 years of service. That doesn’t get you nothing but some respect in my book and maybe a cup of coffee. I know most Americans who only have contact with the military from afar might think of him as some sort of demi god, and I have never impugned his military service, they need to look at the whole body of work. I guess in that regard I am like the liberals, I can respect the soldier but not his mission.
Just A Grunt on February 1, 2008 at 4:58 PM
He has also become so used to being feted as a hero at every step that he now demands it. That is the part of his arrogance I find most distasteful, when we all know there are guys who suffered every bit as much as POWs, are also heros, and who now live quiet, productive lives without demanding worship at every turn. He’s turned it into a cottage industry.
a capella on February 1, 2008 at 5:00 PM
He’ll still raise taxes, of that there is little doubt. But he’ll raise taxes less than either of the radical leftists destined to be on the Democratic ticket. Hopefully.
phronesis on February 1, 2008 at 5:00 PM
If McCain sweeps the Southern states on Tuesday, then in the words of a famous philosopher, “game over, man.”
bnelson44 on February 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM
I was talking to my uber-liberal sister the other day. She doesn’t trust McCain, and she supported him in 2000. The “straight talk” won her over, but now, his support of the Iraq war bummed her out, and she thinks he is a typical lying politician. She also agrees with me that Hillary is a crooked power hungry monster.
So we could have a general election where left and right both think they have nominated scum, and that the other side has nominated scum?
What the heck is wrong with our nominating process, besides the fact that we let the media run it for both of us????
Spartacus on February 1, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Two words: Open Primaries.
phronesis on February 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM
WRONG!!!!!! Not only does he not have an “A”, but the people who are bragging about his 82% ACU lifetime rating are hoping that no one looks closely at what that actually means.
Sorry to keep cut and pasting the following but I consider it my mission in life to counter that particular meme:
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I’m getting sick of that 82% ACU lifetime rating being touted as something to brag about. There are some Democrats that are close to that.
Most of the Senators that we conservatives consider to be good to mediocre are in the high 90s, and quite a few are rated 100%.
Of the currently sitting Senators there are 38 who have higher lifetime ratings, and 45 who have higher 2006 ratings. McCain’ is only 65% in 2006…. And that was before his Kennedy-Shamnesty and Shamnesty- Lieberman bills hit the table. And that is just in the Senate. If you include the House, there ARE several Democrats with higher ratings.
I wish I could find a link to the ACU rating archives, which are even more illuminating, but here is the link to the current ones:
http://www.acuratings.org/2006senate.htm
McCain would be rated below some Senatorial democrats if he hadn’t actually been a pretty strong conservative 15 – 20 years ago. He has gone Leftward pretty badly since then.
So you guys touting his ACU rating better hope that people are too lazy to actually check to see what that really means. Fortunately for you, and unfortunately for the Nation, most people will remain ignorant.
LegendHasIt on February 1, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Except that they are not like that at all.
With the difference that they’ll vote for a blowupdoll, if it’s guaranteed to win.
Entelechy on February 1, 2008 at 5:04 PM
McCain / Rudy — was all that butt kiss they were doing to each other for real? Geographically it makes sense — SW + NE.
Ideologically, not so much, moderate hawk / moderate hawk.
McCain/Fred — nice bone to throw to the red meat conservatives, but the geriatric team v. Pantsuits and Obamamania? I think not. Plus, Pelosi would be WAAAY TOOO close to becoming POTUS.
McCain/Huck — brings evangelicals on board, but alienates red meat conservatives even more.
I say Rudy or someone not currently on the radar
tommylotto on February 1, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Did you read the post before commenting/linking? Allah linked in his post, and used Geraghty’s line as the excerpt on the front page.
amerpundit on February 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
8 years of a media love fest for McCain.
8 years of gang of 14 style power brokering.
8 years of being the diamond tip of the assault on American conservatism.
8 years of free advertising.
It’s good to be the go-to guy for the Democrat party and the leftist press corps. You can spend nothing on a primary process and be ushered into the
general electionabattoir on a red carpet.spmat on February 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
If that’s the ticket I’ll take back my “time to fall in line” comment.
phronesis on February 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Maybe I am the first to say it; IMO McCain’s ordeal was a long time ago and what he has done in the last decade is far more important than what he did 30 to 40 years ago.
His Amnesty Agenda is TREASON to this country. He (or his surrogates) should not be able to hold up the POW card as a shield.
I also disagree that The War on Terror is the most important issue facing us. We need to survive as a viable country first and foremost. If McCain has his way and Amnesty + his ridiculous social programs are enacted, it is over and the Terrorists don’t have to do a thing.
America1st on February 1, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Yes I did, but I wanted to stress that sentence
bnelson44 on February 1, 2008 at 5:16 PM
We may very well be close to the end.
bnelson44 on February 1, 2008 at 5:16 PM
McCain has, at most, four years as President. If elected, he will enter as a Lame Duck.
This sucks.
NTWR on February 1, 2008 at 5:17 PM
It’s better for us if his VP is better than he is, which I think is a high probability.
phronesis on February 1, 2008 at 5:19 PM
I’ll be emailing McCain later to tell him that he has put an end to a conservative Republican Party. Against tax cuts, for open borders, against terror fighting tools, and on the bandwagon of the biggest hoax in recent memory (”global warming”). He won’t care because this is all about power for him, like it is for all liberals, but we should all tell him how disgusted we are with him.
And by the way, what is this talk about who he might pick for VP? You all know it’s going to be some lib like Rudy or something.
RightWinged on February 1, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Et tu brutus? I feel dirty just reading that ridiculous tripe.
myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Preach it, brother. Romney is no more a conservative than is McCain, yet he’s now being re-invented as a cross between Reagan, Goldwater and God.
I don’t blame anyone for picking Romney over McCain or Huckster, but for those of us who early on looked beyond the hair and saw a flip-flopping, pandering, big government, unelectable RINO underneath it’s baffling that he’s being touted as the Great Conservative Hope while McCain is vilified a Commie with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Mitt lost because he ran a crappy campaign, despite having tons of money and a strong organization. Rather than running as Mitt Romney, he ran as a parody of every negative stereotype people have of politicians who mouth the words they think you want to hear without ever actually meaning any of them.
Hollowpoint on February 1, 2008 at 5:34 PM
I’m with Mitt! To the bitter end!
And the Patriots will win to Super Bowl.
madmonkphotog on February 1, 2008 at 5:36 PM
I borrowed it. I’ll watch for how you use it in the future.
Ha.
captivated_dem on February 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Oh, yeah. IF
McLameMcCain gets the nod, I will not vote in November.I won’t vote for someone who sides with the Dumbs more than the part he claims to belong to.
Comrade McCain will destroy America.
madmonkphotog on February 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM
Yep! It’s the end for Mitt alright. And bitter? well yes, for some. Go Giants!
myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM
I’ll take a contrarian view here. Giuliani was the most under-rated candidate and, IMO, have made a good President. But he’s out of the picture.
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I’m going to predict a McCain vs. Hillary election, with McCain narrowly winning. It’s gonna be an ugly fight.
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Of Romney and McCain, IMO, McCain is the only one who can beat Hillary. As far as some of his liberal predilections, I’d rather get half the proverbial loaf with McCain than none of the loaf with Hillary. God forbid another Clinton Administration! :-(
DavePa on February 1, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Mitt’s chances of winning the nomination are about the same as the Minnesota Vikings winning the Super Bowl this weekend.
Hollowpoint on February 1, 2008 at 5:46 PM
McCain-Huckabee? Ugh! And just when I decided to move back to America!
Tzetzes on February 1, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Perhaps McCain can choose a conservative running mate, and after the election Dick Cheney can take him on a hunting trip. Anything can happen.
timpstewart on February 1, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Hollowpoint-
You mean like the Giants.
Longshots …like the American Revolution …sometimes succeed against overwhelming odds.
I’ll write in a conservative in November if McVain’s Bob Dole, the Regurgitation mesmerizes enough duped R’s to win him the nomination.
If it is Dems trying to destroy the country, the R’s will resist.
If it is “the war heRinO”, they’ll roll over and do a Prescription Drugs move.
Better to energize the R’s against an honest socialistic power grab than to have a stealth socialist under the R banner do it smoothly and more effectively.
No to the Bush tax cuts.
No to drilling in ANWAR.
No to serious rules of engagement for captured enemy combatant jihadis (close Gitmo, no waterboarding of the poor widdle terrorists, civil court trials, full Constitutional rights, free lawyers, ad nauseam).
McVain is a covert Dem in R’s clothing.
Write in Tancredo. Or Romney. Or Hunter. Anything but this lying little mole.
profitsbeard on February 1, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Maybe Hillary won’t be such a bad president after all. She won’t pull the troops out right away, and she is smart.
But then Obama gives people hope.
So apparently it’s done, McCain is the nominee, which means the democrats win. And the MSM is going to laugh and laugh and laugh.
JustTruth101 on February 1, 2008 at 6:10 PM
and laugh and laugh aND LAUGH
profitsbeard on February 1, 2008 at 6:29 PM
We could do alot worse than McCain/Giuliani. I can’t wait for McCain to prove these doom and gloomers wrong.
myamphibian on February 1, 2008 at 6:33 PM
That poll is a month old. Much has changed since then including the debate a few nights ago. A new poll today has only a 2point spread. Why the old news?
orlandocajun on February 1, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Dam right it’s over, if your a conservative.
leanright on February 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM
The election is over, Mitt should get out now, save some face, and actually make some good will for himself for the future.
Nobody likes a hanger on, or a vindictive person, admit defeat, bow out graciously, then we can start to unite behind one candidate..
McCain was not My first choice and he is far from the perfect candidate, nor was he the perfect senator(he would probably agree with both of those as well lol)
however, NONE of them are Jesus none of them are Perfect.
we can only choose one, the sooner one is picked the better shape we all will be in for the General.
So, Mitt, Huck and Paul lets just call this thing already..
McCain, our nominee.
Chakra Hammer on February 1, 2008 at 6:58 PM
mccain will be so brutalized during the general campaign he will lose his mind or have a stroke. They are sharpening thier knives as we speak.
peacenprosperity on February 1, 2008 at 7:01 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Mojave Mark on February 1, 2008 at 8:01 PM
No, I mean like the Vikings. The Giants are only a 2:1 underdog last I checked. The Vikings would need a something like an alien spaceship to abduct the entire New England, Giants and Packers teams first, so their odds are a bit longer…
Hollowpoint on February 1, 2008 at 8:39 PM
If McShamnesty wins the nomination based on RINO and independent (mindless) supporters, his next step will be on the Green Mile …. the drive-by media has already started to soak the sponges.
David in ATL on February 1, 2008 at 9:45 PM
If it’s McCain, I’m not worried. If McCain wins the Republican nomination, it just means that he’ll be the guy that lost to the Democrat nominee in November.
I look at this as when 1-20-2009 rolls around either we start our promised 4-to-16 years of uninterrupted economic growth, 0% unemployment, no inflation, zero pollution, the end of racism, cancer cured, every child will score 1600 on their SATs, and world peace… or there will be a reinvigoration of a true American conservative movement that hasn’t been seen in 30 years.
Either way, you and I win.
ScottMcC on February 2, 2008 at 1:17 AM
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