Coulter: No, I’m not kidding about voting for Hillary over McCain
posted at 5:11 pm on February 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
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“He has no honor.” Quote:
In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would be for two years. In July 1968, McCain’s father was named Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command (CINCPAC), stationed in Honolulu and commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater. McCain was immediately offered a chance to return home early: the North Vietnamese wanted a mercy-showing propaganda coup for the outside world, and a message that only privilege mattered that they could use against the other POWs. McCain turned down the offer of repatriation due to the Code of Conduct of “first in, first out”: he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well. McCain’s refusal to be released was even remarked upon by North Vietnamese officials to U.S. envoy Averell Harriman at the ongoing Paris Peace Talks.
And so it’s McCain, not Huckabee, who precipitates the long-awaited conservative crack-up. Man, did Patrick Ruffini pick the wrong year for this project.
Update: AC evidently prefers “a Presidency that would get rolled quicker than you can say Jimmy Carter.”
Update: McCain Derangement Syndrome?
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This year, support for the (R) candidate is in the form of my vote only. If I were truly excited about our candidate, I’d of course do more. But like most of you, I’m very concerned with the direction of the Party, and have been concerned for a number of years now, so much so, that after 25 years as a Republican, I’m now a registered Independent.
It was by no means easy to change my Party affiliation after so many years as a Republican. However, the Party of Ronald Reagan and the Party of the Contract with America, has essentially evaporated. This primary has been a huge disappointment as well. All of my preferred conservative candidates are out.
That said, if I honestly believed there was no appreciable difference between the two Dem frontrunners and John McCain, then I would probably sit this one out as well. However I would never, EVER protest-vote the worst candidate into office, and no one is going to convince me that McCain represents that candidate.
CliffHanger on February 1, 2008 at 7:11 PM
The Gang of Fourteen was indeed underhanded but it did result in Alito and Roberts getting confirmed.
CliffHanger on February 1, 2008 at 7:13 PM
The other danger about McCain is this. If he is elected, he will convince other RINO’s to follow his example!
He will have set the bar by being elected President as a GOP crusading AGAINST conservative causes!
He will in fact not only owe conservatives nothing, he will be able to brag he got elected by sticking his middle finger in their eye!
JellyToast on February 1, 2008 at 7:14 PM
McCain is not a Republican. He’s a Maverick. – Tom Delay
McCain’s ACU ratings:
1987 — 83.5
1988 — 82.3
1989 — 85.3
1990 — 82.5
1991 — 81.8
1992 — 84.5
1993 — 74.8
1994 — 89.2
1995 — 70.2
1996 — 75.3
1997 — 71.5
1998 — 68.3
1999 — 67.7
2000 — 61.7
2001 — 66.8
2002 — 59.8
2003 — 62.2
2004 — 51.7
2005 — 59.2
2006 — 56.7
RushBaby on February 1, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Something damn serious has to happen.
Its about survival and Ann has the right idea.
Not just survival of the GOP but the continued existence of the United States.
Its not about the lesser of two evils anymore, McCain or either liberal are enough to ruin this nation.
Our credit is maxed and we’re threatened with more than Jihadis.
I remember McCain, his military service is honorable, that doesn’t include a Presidents pass to the whitehouse our needs are much more important than that.
Its time to force the issue.
Speakup on February 1, 2008 at 7:16 PM
I bring you F7: Hot Air edition. :-)
Mark Jaquith on February 1, 2008 at 7:17 PM
OK, I get that . . but you’re wrong.
- The Cat
MirCat on February 1, 2008 at 7:17 PM
This is one of the strangest threads I’ve ever read here.
Not only are you guys saying that you want to lose. You are saying that you would actually vote for Hillary in the GE.
Madness.
Why not just vote for Obama in the Primary? Sure the guy holds beliefs that none of us agree with, but he’s not the daughter of Satan.
I may be crazy, but I can’t think of anything worse than another Clinton presidency.
Trust me, you aren’t going to teach the GOP a lesson that is worth the pain we will all endure if those reprobates get back in charge.
Remember Waco?
Dorvillian on February 1, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Coulter is ghastly. A travesty of a Republican. This proves to us now how shallow she really is if she can campaign for a Clinton. Socialised Health Care, Abortion, Pork Barrel spending, US foreign policy are obviously worthless issues to this demagogue.
Fortunately, she is so toxic to most of the electorate her activities will only make Johnny Mac’s job easier come the general.
Pax americana on February 1, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Yes. Vote for Mitt if you still can!!
CliffHanger on February 1, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Those people who think that we who are saying we will not vote for McCain uder any circumstances are going to ‘change our mind’ or fall into line, are out of you ever lovin minds. I don’t think you realize how much we are opposed to this guy, its almost as much as he is opposed to us. You are flat out wrong. McCain will get the worst republican turnout in the history of the party and therefore cannot win. There are a lot of liberal democrats right now claiming to be independents that are propping him up long enought to stick the GOP with him, that support will disappear the second he gets nominated, then it’s time for the, “See I told you so’s.”
Bikerken on February 1, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Think about this you guys. Coulter uses shock value to make her point. Maybe she’s trying to shock us all into getting off our collective @sses and start supporting Romney in a HUGE way.
PoliticallyIncorrectSandy on February 1, 2008 at 7:22 PM
I agree with some. Dont accuse McCain of stabbing republicans in the back when you are talking about stabbing republicans in the back by voting for Hillary.
William Amos on February 1, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Fine. Now go out and support Mitt if you can and do not vote, especially for Obama or Hillary.
Otherwise, no one should take you seriously.
CliffHanger on February 1, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Remember Waco?
Dorvillian on February 1, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Yes I remember Waco, we have been militarizing in a bad way ever since. Government never fired anybody for that or held anyone responsible. I don’t trust McCain with domestic troops either. McCain admits he was a goof off in school and he still never bothered to look up Federalism. The man has no ideology and no world view. He is a panderer like Teddy Roosevelt. I remember how he was talking about abortion in New Hampshire in ‘99 and then he’s shaking hands with Falwell. He says whatever to get elected. Look at his BS rhetoric when he talks about immigration. I don’t trust liberal presidents with militarized Feds regardless of their party.
LevStrauss on February 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM
No, you’re one of the few sane individuals left here. The radio demagogues and the hardliners are suffering from a bad dose of Hubris.
If Mac loses the general, the responsibility for Democratic hegemony over Congress and the White House will rest with this lot.
Pax americana on February 1, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Coulter is ghastly. A travesty of a Republican.
Pax americana on February 1, 2008
No, she is right on! This whole thing is sickening! We are watching the possible disintegration of the GOP and possibly our nation! Unless Mitt wins Tues, we are stuck with with two horrible, impossible choices! A Marxist Dem or a Marxist Republican!
It comes down to which candidate’s election has the potential to destroy the nation less!
Both Hillary and McCain will be taking this nation in the exact same place!
JellyToast on February 1, 2008 at 7:29 PM
After all the years Coulter has made a living vilifying Democrats, it turns out even she doesn’t take herself seriously. How dangerous could the Democrats really be, in Coulter’s estimation, if she’s willing to trust them with control of both houses of congress, the presidency, and potentially the supreme court? It’s all a game to her.
Just a reminder to the lemmings jumping in line behind her to be the first off the cliff – we’re at war. This New Reagan you’re imagining will gallop in to clean up the mess the Democrats will leave isn’t going to be able to un-lose Iraq. Those are the stakes.
Really, that’s just the ante. Think it’s going to be easy to un-socialize medicine? Is there a line in the constitution about un-appointing liberally creative supreme court justices? How about a spiraling recession, think New Reagan will just invoke the oath of office like a magical charm and our economy will rebound?
Nothing the Democrats will do can permanently damage the union, but they can make life pretty miserable for a lot of people for a decade. When they do, people like Coulter are going to have to answer for it as much as the Democrats. Not that she’s worried.
RightOFLeft on February 1, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Not only will we be going Socialist, but the Republicans will get the blame if we have McPain/McVain as the president. I won’t vote for him because the Republicans will then get the blame when everything goes to he11 in a handbasket due to the liberal/Marxist policies that will be instituted under McStain.
TruthToBeTold on February 1, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Derangement? Voting for the person I believe in versus the front-runner is derangement?
I do not believe in John McCain. I believe in Romney. I will not vote for John McCain. I hold to my principles, not my party.
Why is that so hard for pundits to understand?
Answer: It’s not the answer they want to hear.
I guess is some minds, sticking to your morals is equal to derangement.
Montana on February 1, 2008 at 7:47 PM
I gotta disagree.
A one time honorable act doesnt give you a free pass for the rest of your life. McCains service to his country was honorable much as Max Cleland’s but they both trot it around as a get out of jail free card, and thats wrong.
Benedict Arnold was a War hero too dont forget.
Once an honorable man not ALWAYS an honorable Man.
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on February 1, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Voting for McCain is CDS or Conservative Derangement Syndrome.
LevStrauss on February 1, 2008 at 8:08 PM
I love Coulter,she knows what buttons to push,
and how often!
canopfor on February 1, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Fair enough.
And if the GOP has decided it no longer needs me and mine, you know what the only logical response for ME is, don’t you?
Besides, if you don’t need us, then what are you crying and screaming about? We’re not important, right?
Misha I on February 1, 2008 at 8:10 PM
I’m sure when Ann said McCain has “no honor” that she was referring to his time in Vietnam, and not his time in the senate… /rolls eyes
With all due respect, that sounds like a typical liberal argument.
Being a war veteran doesn’t necessarily make for a good president, and that one fact should not be the trump card excusing every liberal position he’s taken since.
Jimma was in the Navy… did that make him good president?
nootch on February 1, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Don’t be a dope. If you don’t understand Ann Coulter, then just say so, but don’t say these foolish things.
She does mean that she won’t vote for McCain. But her statement that she’d rather work for Hillary, is rhetoric, expressing how many, MANY of us feel about McCain.
I would rather work to elect Hillary than vote for McCain. HOWEVER, since I am free not to vote for McCain, I don’t need to do either.
Get the point?
seanrobins on February 1, 2008 at 8:34 PM
These are good observations.
One thing that no one can disagree about, be they Democrat of Republican, is that we don’t need TWO liberal parties.
If the GOP turns out to be no longer the party of conservatives, then we need to start putting together a new conservative party. Maybe the Reagan Party.
(…or somthing like that…)
seanrobins on February 1, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
I have been fooled more than twice and the net result has been the GOP now stands for repression of free speech before elections, amnesty, open borders, welfare benefits for illegals, unfair trade treaties, loss of sovereignity to international trade commissions not elected by citizens, contempt for the American worker, poltical correctness at the Pentagon, the TSA, and Homeland Security, unwillingness to protect the American citizen from toxic imports from China, unwillingness to have fair ‘country of origin’ labeling on products to protect corrupt business distributing toxic trash not produced under American health and safety laws, repeated attempts to give citizenship and the vote to 30 million lawbreakers (and a promise by McCain that if elected he will sign the bill), refusal to prosecute businesses for hiring illegals thus forcing competitors to also hire illegals or die, causing the greatest job theft in our history (next to slavery)
and
collusion between GOP RHINOs at the top with DEM lawmakers to negate the vote of conservative GOP representatives.
A win for McCain, who is the leader of these collaborators will give him control of the party
I have no reason to trust McCain and every reason to assume he means what he says.
Deranged?
Nuts!
entagor on February 1, 2008 at 8:38 PM
I am going to wait for a more rigorous and formal proposal by Miss Coulter for her case against John McCain. What she has given us isn’t really much. Give her time, she’ll develop a more developed argument that we can go over, debate, shred, agree with, etc.
Weebork on February 1, 2008 at 8:43 PM
If he had had an “R” next to his name I think a number of the people here have clearly expressed that they would have voted for him.
FloatingRock on February 1, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Baloney. Jimmy carter did serve and that was also to his credit. And the Jimmy carter of 1976 is very different from the carter of today. He left office disgraced and now is using the UN to make himself into something greater than he ever was in a disingenious way. Just like gore has done and Clinton is doing.
William Amos on February 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Cankles Vs. McCain
. Write in Fred (63%, 10 Votes)
. Vote McCain (19%, 3 Votes)
. Stay Home (19%, 3 Votes)
. Vote Hillary (0%, 0 Votes)
Here are the results so far on the “Is Ann Coulter crazy?” Poll.
I thought for sure folks would vote for Hillary but Fred is winning as usual.
TheSitRep on February 1, 2008 at 9:07 PM
I’ve been involved in Republican politics for years. GWB was my candidate in 2000 – He dissappointed me.
In 2004, I voted for him again as the “Lesser of two evils candidate” – Was dissappointed again.
If my party puts up McShamnesty as its candidate I will vote for every issue and candidate on the ballot – BUT NOT FOR PRESIDENT!
John McCain did serve honorably in our military (and I thank him for his service), but he has not been honorable to conservatism!
FloridaBill on February 1, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Here are the results so far on the “Is Ann Coulter crazy?” Poll. I thought for sure folks would vote for Hillary but Fred is winning as usual.
TheSitRep on February 1, 2008 at 9:07 PM
+++++++++++++++++++
Okay, NOW I’m getting excited again – Fred is at 67% at this point. Boowah!
fabrexe on February 1, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Ann is spot on and making a point that some are to dense to understand. If that democrat McAmnesty gets the nomination I will write in my candidate. In other words I wont vote for him or the harridan.
Ann is trying to wake people up and its working.
dogsoldier on February 1, 2008 at 11:19 PM
For the most part, I’m with Ann. If we couldn’t get Mitt or Fred the nomination, I don’t want our party being saddled with a presidency owned by that jerk. I don’t know that I’d vote for Hillary — wait, I do know… I would never vote for Hillary, but I will vote for Barry if he gets the nomination. Let him F it up for 4 years and then we can get a real conservative in the White House.
D2Boston on February 1, 2008 at 11:20 PM
If it’s McCain v. Clinton .. I’m not voting for Hillary, but I’m not voting for McCain, either. If the American people want to elect a democrat, let them elect a democrat.. not a liberal with an “R” next to his name. AC makes a good point.. middle America is frustrated with Republicans because of Bush in a lot of ways.. if we elect McCain and he implements the liberal policies he’s favored over the years it’s going to reflect poorly on the REPUBLICAN party. I’m not willing to sacrifice the future of our party just to get a guy with an (R) by his name into the White House.
Maybe that’s just me.. maybe I’m stubborn, but if McCain doesn’t get elected then our party still has a chance of remaining conservative and standing for conservative principles. If McCain is elected…. I’m going to begin to worry about the republic.
henzou on February 2, 2008 at 12:10 AM
I’m votin’ Libertarian this year. Both parties and positions can go pound sand…
eanax on February 2, 2008 at 1:25 AM
I love me some Ann!
MsUnderestimated on February 2, 2008 at 1:48 AM
And if this d@mn fool gets to the WH, watch what happens when his new illegal friends start collecting Social Security….when thousands of real citizens are projected to retire every day.
91Veteran on February 2, 2008 at 2:36 AM
Who are all these people voting for this guy? I haven’t met a single person online or in real life for whom he was the first choice. It’s like he came out of nowhere to win this thing. I just find it so odd.
capitalist piglet on February 2, 2008 at 6:00 AM
You would blindly follow anyone with an R behind their name. You are uninformed and missing the point. mccain is a liberal. His military experience has nothing to do with his ideology. the only major legislation in his career has eroded the rights of the American people. he keeps saying he was a foot soldier of the Reagan Revolution but aside from riding Reagans coattails into office he has been on the liberal team all down the line. What will mccain do about the war? He will do what the generals tell him needs to be done. What will hillary do? She will do what the generals tell her needs to be done. mccain, once in office, will sign any legislation his liberal feinds tell him to sign and the republicans in congress, just like you, will follow him blindly. The manchurian candidate is two steps away from completing his mission.
peacenprosperity on February 2, 2008 at 6:39 AM
I’d rather lose with Romney than win with McCain. I’m not voting for anyone. I’m voting against McCain.
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 2, 2008 at 6:53 AM
No it didn’t. The gang cracked because Roberts and Alito were too solid and even the democrats knew it. If they had interferred on the democrats side, and that was what the gang of 14 was all about, protecting the democrats back, they would have been crushed.
peacenprosperity on February 2, 2008 at 6:58 AM
You really are asleep aren’t you. And your freinds. You seem to forget that the amnesty bill was going to sail on through with the support of most of the republicans. Only a couple of brave congressman got the truth out. All the rest of those “die hard conservative” republicans had to be turned by the threat that their constituents would not reelect them if they voted for the bill. mccain called us racists and his liutenant grahm told us to shut up. grahm might just be the vp. so suddenly you sleep walkers think mccain will become some raving conservative and fight the majority of democrats to push through a conservative agenda? or that all those republicans, in the minority, will fight a republican president to protect our rights? Talk about kool aid drinkers.
peacenprosperity on February 2, 2008 at 7:20 AM
Currently, the votes aren’t going well for McCain.
Cankles Vs. McCain
* . Write in Fred (62%, 23 Votes)
* . Stay Home (19%, 7 Votes)
* . Vote McCain (14%, 5 Votes)
* . Vote Hillary (5%, 2 Votes)
Total Voters: 37
McCain has only five votes, granted this is a very small sampling, however when you consider that out of 37 who bothered to go and vote, McCain only got 14% of those votes, he’s screwed in the national.
That’s what we’ve been saying. Bob Dole didn’t inspire people to get out and vote FOR him, McCain isn’t inspiring anyone either. If I can’t manage to bring myself to actually vote for Hillary, I’ll pick some weird third party candidate.
Either way, I won’t vote for McCain even if he’s the only name on the ticket.
Snake307 on February 2, 2008 at 8:02 AM
Oh Ann… PLEASE marry me!
Gartrip on February 2, 2008 at 9:19 AM
So your brilliant solution is….what? Ensure the victory of Hillary, or Obama, which are, if your side can tone down your own rhetoric about McCain, REALLY the GREATER of two evils? For what purpose? Are you so deluded that you think that perhaps after 4 years of Obama or Hillary, America will come running back to embrace your conservative principles? It will not happen.
And sitting this one out to spite McCain will do nothing but further marginalize you.
You want things to change, work to ensure that CONGRESS shifts back towards a conservative ideology by working to throw out all of the Democrat bums who got elected (or re-elected) in 2006.
Vyce on February 2, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Oh? And who’s going to get the job done, Romney? The conservatives couldn’t even decide he was conservative enough for the job until it came down to just him and McCain. He’s never had the support of the moderates or the independents, and the conservative base alone is nowhere near enough to get him elected in the general election – even if he didn’t have his religion as an albatross around his neck.
Vyce on February 2, 2008 at 10:51 AM
I have always felt that one major difference between the 2 parties is that the Democrats expect and accept criminals and liars in their ranks. Republicans don’t. We have them, but we don’t welcome them, and we certainly don’t encourage them. The press gives liberals unlimited passes because of it and calls conservatives hypocrites and burns them at the stake. Only conservatives are held responsible. And that part is fine with me. When Mel Martinez became the RNC chairman, I quit the party. If you were a member of the gang of 14, I am done with you forever. When Charlie Crist sold his soul to the devil last week I am done with him. The repubican leadership has determined that if the dems can get away with it, so can they. I refuse to contribute to it. I will never, ever, ever support someone who takes for granted my vote because they are the less of two evils. They are still evil. And they are wrong. I agree that Ronald Reagan would have never have led the movement that he did had it not been for Jimmy Carter. If McCain is elected, the republicans will have their Jimmy Carter, and the dems will be able to put in place their version of a revolution because of it. They have sold us out, and we let them when we elect them. Not me. Sorry.
JeffinOrlando on February 2, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Ah, but the responsibility will truly like with those that are supporting McCain now, KNOWING this will come to pass with this rift.
You can’t put up a turd for the nomination and then chastise people for not voting for the turd – sorry. If McCain gets the nomination then loses, the fault lies squarely with the ones responsible for getting McCain the nomination.
Period.
Midas on February 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Ditto what Midas said.
A turd indeed. Dressed up with perfume on, but still looks like a turd and smells like a turd… hence… a turd :-)
TOPV on February 2, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Midas… I could do without the scat, but you are completely correct. Republican establishment types are the reason for the loss if McCain gets the nod. They can’t point their fingers elsewhere if they nominate someone who conservatives will not support. /shrug
TCJ on February 2, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I won’t vote for Hillary. But I won’t vote for McCain either. And as others have pointed out — there is not much difference between the two. Both would implement terrible policies. And both will pi$$ on the conservatives. And brag about it.
SunSword on February 2, 2008 at 12:33 PM
No, instead you will reward the republican party for nominating a candidate that actually should be running as a democrat. whay to send a message!
paulsur on February 2, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Saw McCains “Real Conservative” commercial here in Denver last night…
Almost choked.
One of the things some of you are missing, is that a lot of us are CONSERVATIVES first…
The Republican party used to represent out views, but he last few years have not, and McCain certainly does not.
The downfall of a REPRESENTATIVE Democracy comes when people vote in candidates who do NOT represent their views… just as McCain does not mine…
I will NOT vote for someone I find distastefull and does not represent ME, because of a misplaced party loyalty.
McCain is part of the problem, and not the solution…
If he’s the Republican candidate… I’ll write someone else in.
Romeo13 on February 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM
Ann is, as always, wonderful. How many have joined the McCain camp because he held up the Hillary scarecrow saying, “It’s me or her-choose wisely!”
A pox on both their houses. Romney stands head and shoulders above H.Clinton and J.McCain, both physically and politically.
I saw a Romney ad today-most of us have seen the ad by now-where he attacks H.Clinton on her lack of experience.
No mud, no lies, no rankerous name calling: he simply contrasts her lack of experience with his abundance of success in private, business and political sectors.
If Romney misses out on the nomination because he didn’t go dirty enough, nasty enough… so be it. Then we deserve whoever we get. I’m witt Mitt.
Doug on February 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Many of those are called voters. Romney has money and the backing of talk radio. He has to win primaries.
How capable is Ann of affecting the opinion of someone not already on her side? Her strength seems to be firing up those who already on her side.
dedalus on February 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM
The only reason people are voting for McCain now, when just a few months ago his poll numbers were as low as Ron Paul’s, is because of these poll’s the MSM has put out over the last month or so saying that in a head-to-head match up against Hillary, McCain is the only Republican that wins. Those polls are suspect given that a majority of those surveyed are Democrats and therefore more likely to lie to the pollster to get the desired result. Also, there are many conservatives who took a vow, years ago in many cases, to never vote for McCain “under any circumstances.” These are the type of people who do not suffer liars and do not break their promises. Romney has been very consistent with his statements over the past couple of years. McCain has been consistent, too. The candidates have not flip-flopped, the Republican party has. Face facts – if McCain gets the nomination, there will be a very significant portion of conservatives that will not vote for him. You might even see people moving to Australia in large numbers.
Drew W. on February 2, 2008 at 12:59 PM
After watching this clip, I recognize that Ann Coulter looks like Tom Petty.
RWLA on February 2, 2008 at 1:11 PM
She is only doing it for her own self gain and attention.
By now we should all know It’s All About Ann…she doesn’t really care about the GOP or much else except keeping herself in the limelight.
AprilOrit on February 2, 2008 at 1:33 PM
Excellent post Jeff!
AprilOrit on February 2, 2008 at 2:02 PM
I haven’t read everything on this thread and don’t have the time But AC “IS” my fem side on JM.
jerrytbg on February 2, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Dude Ann’s last two blogs have more than made the case against McVain. I htinks she’s made it very clear.
I am with Ann, screw McShamnesty and screw the RNC.
StayHome’08
HotAirExpert on February 2, 2008 at 3:16 PM
I thinks I can’t type either.
HotAirExpert on February 2, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Maybe that’s just me.. maybe I’m stubborn, but if McCain doesn’t get elected then our party still has a chance of remaining conservative and standing for conservative principles. If McCain is elected…. I’m going to begin to worry about the republic.
henzou on February 2, 2008 at 12:10 AM
I think we all have a lot to worry about of McShamesty gets the nod. I’ve been telling the GOP in emails for 3 years now that I’m ashamed to be called a republican anymore because as Ronald Reagan said, he didn’t leave his party (democrats) his party left him! We have the same problem today. Our party has left us and gone to the liberals and has no plans to come back unless we take a stand and make them irrelavant. Then we can take back the party and maybe make a difference in this country, but it sure isn’t going to happen if we rollover and elect a liberal as president.
flytier on February 2, 2008 at 3:21 PM
HotAirExpert on February 2, 2008 at 3:17 PM
If I ever posted a real time response you couldn’t read it!!lol so don’t feel so baf
jerrytbg on February 2, 2008 at 3:23 PM
I’ve never seen a clearly defined set of principles by which one can categorically state that one is a Conservative?
What are they?
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM
If McCain were to get the nomination and actually win the election in November. What did we, as Republicans, actually win?
I don’t trust him one bit more than I trust Hillary.
SimplyKimberly on February 2, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Errrk…. That first sentence was meant to be a statement not a question. True to form, I notice these things only after pressing the enter key.
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 3:30 PM
I’ve never seen a clearly defined set of principles by which one can categorically state that one is a Conservative?
What are they?
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM
How about less government, free market, freedom of speech, less taxes, personal responsibility, abiding by the wishes of the founding fathers as listed in the constitution and not a “living, breathing” constitution that changes at the whims of whatever supreme court make up that we happen to be subjected to at the time. Thinking that people know how to spend their money better than the government and people are not entitled to anything, but the unalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
flytier on February 2, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Abused conservative Ann is attempting to do to her Republican chronic abuser John McCain what abused wife Lorena Bobbit did to her husband chronic abuser John Bobbit.
Justice!
Go Ann!
MB4 on February 2, 2008 at 3:41 PM
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Call me a prude if you care to but I only
likelove that view live.jerrytbg on February 2, 2008 at 3:45 PM
How about less government, free market, freedom of speech, less taxes, personal responsibility, abiding by the wishes of the founding fathers as listed in the constitution and not a “living, breathing” constitution that changes at the whims of whatever supreme court make up that we happen to be subjected to at the time. Thinking that people know how to spend their money better than the government and people are not entitled to anything, but the unalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
flytier on February 2, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Well said. If only many of the other “conservatives” on this board believed these principles instead using government for THEIR purpose, we’d have a real choice, wouldn’t we?
RWLA on February 2, 2008 at 3:52 PM
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Call me a prude if you care to but I only like love that view live.
jerrytbg on February 2, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Come on a__hole, you got a responds?….troll!
jerrytbg on February 2, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Allah,
did you flag this FierceGuppy guy?
jerrytbg on February 2, 2008 at 4:00 PM
That’s almost where I’m at. What about foreign on policy?
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM
What?!
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM
when I clicked your link to see who you are…I got a view that I only like live and in person…now you’re gonna say….what?
jerrytbg on February 2, 2008 at 4:14 PM
That’s almost where I’m at. What about foreign on policy?
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Foreign policy? Well, protecting our interests where they may be and remembering that we are the Super Power in the world and not the corrupt UN. The protection of Israel and knowing that there will never be peace in the middle east because the islamo facists don’t want it. Not apologizing for our form of democracy and knowing that wherever democracy is free to breathe and grow, there is true freedom.
flytier on February 2, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Well said. If only many of the other “conservatives” on this board believed these principles instead using government for THEIR purpose, we’d have a real choice, wouldn’t we?
RWLA on February 2, 2008 at 3:52 PM
You said it. I’m almost libertarian bordering on anarchy! Leave me alone and I’ll happily leave you along. We only need enough laws to keep respect for other people. God gave 10 commandments and they pretty well cover everything.
flytier on February 2, 2008 at 4:21 PM
You’re virtually incoherent, and possibly your browser is screwed, too. When I click on my link, all I see is my homepage with sundry images on it. I have know idea what you’re seeing.
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 4:24 PM
“Mac” must never get to the general. We must fight that — like fiends — all the way to St. Paul. He is absolutely the worst candidate we could put up to beat The Beast. And we must do all we can to prevent it. But if he does end up yanking the nomination out of hands, why then yes, I agree that we should vote for him over HIllary. But I fear that enough folks won’t buy it that “Mac” will end up being our “Reportin’-fer-Duty Kerry” — and that will be REALLY depressing: a liberal mandate.
Go Mitt!!!
argos on February 2, 2008 at 4:29 PM
McCain did an honorable thing 40 years ago. That’s great. God bless him and we should all commend his service to our country.
Now why do we want him to be president again? I just keep hearing defensive b.s. and no substantive takes on what he’ll do right as prez. What does he have to offer? “He’s not Hillary or Obama” isn’t a good response.
I’m sensing some heavy meltage over Coulter’s stance here. I actually applaud her conviction. For what it’s worth, 4 years of Hillary would be really, really, really funny.
Metro on February 2, 2008 at 4:46 PM
The way I figure it is that the Democrats have finally figured out how to win back the Presidency. They backed McCain to run as the Republican, CNN says that he’s the only tolerable Republican about 10 times a day, liberal papers all over have endorsed him and they know there are a lot of Republicans who will vote for anyone with an R after his / her name to keep a Clinton out of the WH.
Buzzy on February 2, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Perhaps the biggest beneficiary of Coulter’s Hillary endorsement is Obama. Within the Democratic party Coulter’s pronouncement that Hillary and McCain are roughly equivalent provides another rationale for Obama’s message of change. Voters on the fence between Hillary and Obama might see this as another reason to jump into Obama’s camp.
dedalus on February 2, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Ditto. I was going to say that your principles are almost identical to those held my libertarians, except libertarian foreign policy is all over the bloody place, and sometimes non existent depending on whom you talk to. I’m almost a conservative. Except, 1) I’m pro choice 2) I want the government out of the education system, and 3) I don’t want the government defining what constitutes marriage between consenting adults. Other than that we’re pretty much on the same side.
FierceGuppy on February 2, 2008 at 5:00 PM
She really does need to see a therapist..
Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 5:27 PM
McCain has a Marine son in Iraq..
Why hasn’t any of Mitt’s sons enlisted?
Chakra Hammer on February 2, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Why does it matter? It’s a personal choice.
Spirit of 1776 on February 2, 2008 at 5:31 PM
I don’t know yet for whom I will vote in the general if McCain wins. I can see the logic in voting for a Carter so we can get another Reagan, but can the country handle another 4 years of Carter?
It just really is sad that as qualified as he is, Mitt is disregarded by so many “Republicans.” He is smarter, more experienced, more moral, wiser, and more presidential than McCain, Obama, and Clinton. I used to have a lot of respect for McCain and could forgive him some of his liberal stances and history to vote for him in the general, but after the lying he’s done recently and his jejune attacks, I’m not sure what I will do. My only hope is that Mitt, with his remarkable calculating mind, somehow has everything under control.
Iceman on February 2, 2008 at 5:34 PM
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