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What Berzerkly is doing is practicing a form of discrimination. It is the worst kind of discrimination.

It’s the most vile and heinous discrimination against those who choose to serve their country. Those who choose to defend their rights to act like the fools they are. Those who would give the ultimate sacrifice to protect those who would malign the good men and women who choose to serve our country.

Take any federal and state funding away from Berkley. All of it. Military, law enforcement, streets and highways, the university — all of it. Every cent.

The war continues against the Liberal anti-American nuts in Liberal strongholds like Berkeley and San Francisco. The Berkeley City Council recently voted to call the U.S. Marines and their local recruiting station uninvited and unwelcome guests. The Ci…

Isn’t Medea that Greek mythology witch who chopped up her baby brother to pieces?

Darth Executor on February 1, 2008 at 2:32 PM

Not quite. It was her own children by Jason, in a fit of rage over his abandoning her to marry a princess.

Sieg Hail for the goose stepping McVain,and his brain dead minions!!

Confederate on February 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM

MCCAIN = HITLER!!

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But the thing that is the problem here is that we are even having this discussion. There shouldn’t be federal funds for education, it dumbs everyone down. States should be forced to compete in education. States and local governments have an incentive to educate their citizens however they see fit and we shouldn’t get involved in these carrot and stick applications of getting in line with the Federal Government. We should be trying to cut federal funding for everyone, don’t spend it federally on education, locally and at the State level. We shouldn’t try to impose taxes on churches that engage in political speech, we should be seeking to cut taxes for everyone else, especially the income tax.

Go ahead and conveniently leave out the “illegal” portion of that phrase

Um, if you had read what I wrote, I called for “increasing legal immigration and clamping down on illegal immigration.” You can pretend that I didn’t say that, but it won’t make it so.

I did not call you a nativist. I said that every generation has nativists who fret about immigration in general, whether legal or illegal. But I think there’s plenty of middle ground between “deport ‘em all” and “anyone with $5000 gets to stay.”

Anyway, as Congress showed, there are plenty of people who are conservative on most issues that don’t fall in line with the base on this topic, so showing that the head of Cal agreed with one small part of immigrant reform really doesn’t show that the school as a whole is all that liberal, let alone that it “is a giant socialist indoctrination program.” (Besides, don’t socialists generally prefer the tightest borders possible?)

I really don’t think it’s a “wacko” statement. But I’m probably more pro-immigration than you are.

“Pro-immigration” huh? Nice. Go ahead and conveniently leave out the “illegal” portion of that phrase to suit your purpose and distort the conversation.

Now I’m starting to understand your view on this matter. You’re one of them, aren’t you?

Every generation, nativists worry …

Heh. “Nativists.”

F*ck you a$$whole. Go back to flower land where you went to school.

Birgeneau, incidentally, is also an immigrant.

So are my parents, moron. So is my wife. And my son is half Mexican.

Go post on DailyKos where the rest of the goons and trolls roam. Your comment is so filled with talking points and liberal speak you give yourself away.

Wait! Are you Juan Hernandez?

Your stance is like saying the New York Times is perfectly unbiased and innocent and it’s all the fault of the writers.

No, it’s like saying that the businessmen who walk past 620 Eighth Avenue every day are not responsible for its content. Because they’re not.

U.C. Berkeley is well known for the ideology that it represents and students are there for that very reason.

No, they’re there because it’s affordable, and because it is among the best teaching schools and perhaps the best research school in the nation, if not the world. Either it or Stanford (I forget which — they’re pretty close) has more highly-ranked departments than any other school. Many people go to a school to reflect their educational goals, not to reinforce some silly notion of “identity” or “ideology.”

Care to take a guess at who made this statement?

I really don’t think it’s a “wacko” statement. But I’m probably more pro-immigration than you are. Every generation, nativists worry about how the immigrant threat is going to fundamentally change America’s WASP heritage, but I think we’re better for the Irish, Jewish, Scottish, German, and Russian migrants, and we’ll likely be better – in the long run – for the Mexicans, too, if we handle the situation correctly (increasing legal immigration and clamping down on illegal immigration). Birgeneau merely wants those who never decided to break a law (who were involuntarily smuggled by their parents) to be able to realize the American dream rather than be stuck between being unable to do anything legally in America and being unable to do anything culturally/linguistically in Mexico. To you, that’s amnesty. However, even outside of Berkeley, there’s a lot of sympathy for this particular view.

Birgeneau, incidentally, is also an immigrant.

WTF! Who the heck do they think defeated Hitler on THE BATTLEFIELD?!

ThePrez, don’t you remember your history? According to the Histories of Berkeley, it started with the D-Day vote, when the Berkeley City Council voted Hitler out of France. Faced with such determined opposition, Hitler had no choice but to give up the war.

There’s a difference between wackos exercising their free speech rights on street corners, school plazas, and telephone poles, and the type of relentless indoctrination the many believe is a daily part of UC-Berkeley. Yes, I saw some mindless liberal ‘tude from profs and students, but while the loudest voices are liberal, most students are just working to get (and most employees just looking to provide) a classic college education.

calbear on February 1, 2008 at 4:28 PM

I really can’t even comprehend your stance. Your stance is like saying the New York Times is perfectly unbiased and innocent and it’s all the fault of the writers. Again, the students who attend U.C. Berkeley make the choice to go to that specific college for a reason, and it’s not because it’s really pretty there. U.C. Berkeley is well known for the ideology that it represents and students are there for that very reason.

All one has to do is research the members of the administration to know it goes far beyond the student body.

Care to take a guess at who made this statement?

THE UTTER collapse of immigration reform in Congress was particularly devastating to one group: undocumented students. It leaves those who have excelled academically in our high schools, but who are not legal residents, ineligible for financial aid. Such a barrier means our students, through no fault of their own, have no path to success or citizenship.

How about this one?

To address the plight of undocumented students, Congress must ensure that the well-conceived and broadly supported federal DREAM (Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors) Act goes forward. The act, which provides access to financial aid and a thoughtfully mapped-out path to citizenship for qualified students, became entangled in the latest failed immigration bill. It is time to pass the act on its own merits.

That would be none other than the U.C. Berkeley chancellor; ROBERT J. BIRGENEAU.

I’m sorry, but your University sucks big time, and the students are a reflection of the University. Not the other way around.

Three of my cousins went there and it was all they talked about. The couldn’t go through a day without being bombarded by Code Pink types handing out flyers, giving speeches, and organizing protests.

There’s a difference between wackos exercising their free speech rights on street corners, school plazas, and telephone poles, and the type of relentless indoctrination the many believe is a daily part of UC-Berkeley. Yes, I saw some mindless liberal ‘tude from profs and students, but while the loudest voices are liberal, most students are just working to get (and most employees just looking to provide) a classic college education.

Heck, the biggest accomplishment of the most political person I knew there was making the mistake of writing a hyperbolic screed against Chelsea Clinton [who went to rival Stanford] in the school paper just before Hillary visited the school. He got a not-so-friendly visit from the secret service for that one. He had previously been elected to school government on a “joke party” whose platform had to do with a sexual act, not any actual political issue. I think he’s more representative of student attitude towards politics than Ms. Benjamin.

Ummm…no. Most of the kids who attend that university are way to busy for Code Pink types of shenagigans.

I went there, two of my other kids went there, and it isn’t like you think at all. You can find it, sure. But it’s not one huge lefty reeducation camp.

Bob’s Kid on February 1, 2008 at 3:39 PM

That’s interesting. Three of my cousins went there and it was all they talked about. The couldn’t go through a day without being bombarded by Code Pink types handing out flyers, giving speeches, and organizing protests.

I made many trips down there from Sacramento to visit and I saw the same thing. U.C. Berkeley is a giant socialist indoctrination program.

Please! The University of Berkeley is anything but innocent, and the parents of kids who go there are well aware of what they stand for. They deserve what they get.

Ummm…no. Most of the kids who attend that university are way to busy for Code Pink types of shenagigans. The city is disgusting, but the University itself isn’t…yeah, it’s full of libs, but most of academia is. My son, very politically aware, graduated with a degree in PoliSci and did not notice any obvious garbage come from the profs in the courses he took–except for the one conservative prof. Even the lefty ones challenged stupid student misunderstandings of the Constitution.

I went there, two of my other kids went there, and it isn’t like you think at all. You can find it, sure. But it’s not one huge lefty reeducation camp.

I wouldn’t pull the funds for Cal – it’s a State institution and has little to do with the city, at least on paper.

But the City of Berkeley? Pull it all. Not so “symbolic” now, it it, ya morons?

Words have consequences.

mojo on February 1, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Pull the funds from Cal…the word institution is appropriate. They are an integral part of Berkeley and feed and feed on the local politics. Do you honestly think that the faculty of Berkley does not go along with this? Does not support it? Does not embrace it?

Well, the University is a state of California institution and is an innocent party here.

Very true. It’s the aged “hippies” who run the city. The University is very much a separate institution, although, like any university, town and gown influence one another. My favorite story about just how separate the two are is that of the closing of the California Schools for the Deaf and Blind in 1980, when it was declared seismically unsafe. Cal eventually took it over and used it for student housing, allegedly without any retrofitting, which they were able to do as a state institution. That’s closer to Huey Long than Huey Newton.

By the way, anyone visiting S.F. should stroll outside Harry Aleo’s storefront in Noe Valley. “Most 24th Street habitués know him only from his storefront window, where for years they have viewed his collection of Republican memorabilia, American flags, and anti-Clinton political cartoons with a mixture of curiosity and disdain.” There’s even a welcome sign for conservatives flummoxed with the excessiveness of the “kooks” and “liberals.” He doesn’t sell anything out of it, but it’s nice to see.

“If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler.”

WTF! Who the heck do they think defeated Hitler on THE BATTLEFIELD?!

But the City of Berkeley? Pull it all. Not so “symbolic” now, it it, ya morons?

Words have consequences.