Open thread: Nuclear war in California
posted at 7:30 pm on January 31, 2008 by Allahpundit
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8 p.m. ET on CNN, one on one at last. The conventional wisdom has it that this is the Messiah’s chance to take her down a peg before Super Tuesday but I think it’s just as much her chance to prove she can stand toe to toe with him on the same stage. There are no significant policy differences to be hashed out here, only health-care arcania and withdrawal nuance. Which means it’s a matter of style, which in turn makes her the underdog.
This freaky little tidbit makes me think she’s about to play the gender card again, so look for some faux hurt feelings about the SOTU snub. It would be awesomely awesome if Obama hit her over the latest BJ revelations, but he’s probably wary enough about Rezko that he doesn’t want to get in the mud. What are they going to talk about for two hours? Hillary’s scummy Florida politicking? Batten down the hatches for the most excruciatingly substance-less — yet possibly vicious — debate yet!
Sound off below. Video to come, if there’s something worth clipping.
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Oh son of bitch, she just invoked the J man… Wait, I forgot, that’s allowed because this is the Democrat debate. But get ready to scream “theocracy!” the next time one of the GOP boys does it.
RightWinged on January 31, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Jesus what,now you know how she treats religion!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:49 PM
@ malkinmania on January 31, 2008 at 8:49 PM
he doesnt want to make the first move. Once it gets going, he will give the smackdown.
muyoso on January 31, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Haaaaaaa!!!…..
The Ugly American on January 31, 2008 at 8:50 PM
With all this talk tonite..the Poverty families are being led to belive they are about to hit the Lottery.
malkinmania on January 31, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Round and deport - Thanks Wall Street Journal and Juan McCain.
mred on January 31, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Hillary: “Let them come out, but don’t give them licenses because that might make it too easy!”
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 8:51 PM
here it go
carbon_footprint on January 31, 2008 at 8:51 PM
I think she’s about to cry
askheaves on January 31, 2008 at 8:51 PM
HRC: We can’t give licenses to illegals because it “puts THEM at risk”?
WTF?
flip on January 31, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Giving illegal immigrants driver’s licenses puts them in danger because the gov’t will find out they’re illegal.
Is that what I just heard Hillary say?
MrSteve on January 31, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Me thinks its about to hit the fan!!!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:52 PM
As I said, Obama is a little b**ch and he won’t slam her… and he just proved it by practically apologizing for sheepishly raising her flip-flopping on licenses for illegals.
RightWinged on January 31, 2008 at 8:52 PM
She just can’t say it. She pauses, but she can’t say it.
“Illegal immigrants.” They are “here illegally.”
cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 8:52 PM
I seriously think she’s about to cry.
MrSteve on January 31, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Hillary: definitive answers are not for you plebians to hear, let us slide!
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Barack is subdued: perhaps the Clinton machine found some dirt on him or something??
carbon_footprint on January 31, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Fair minded republicans? RINOs you mean?
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Liberal Fascism on view.
mred on January 31, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Obama isn’t scoring well on the CNN real-time reaction on this. Hillary is scoring much better.
bnelson44 on January 31, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Cry! Cry! Cry!
Awwwww, commercial.
askheaves on January 31, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Something has been said to them behind the scenes….
They are now both HELPING EACH OTHER with their contradictions instead of exposing…
Obama, you just lost the nomination. The Clinton Machine has snookered you.
LordMaximus on January 31, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Uh…..Obama….they’re already committing hit and runs, even with any “crackdown”.
You can’t go through a week here in L.A. without hearing about a hit and run.
The Ugly American on January 31, 2008 at 8:54 PM
No that was the dog……
Mcguyver on January 31, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Wolf Blitzer just got the worst reaction of the night on the real-time meter.
CABE on January 31, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Ah, commerical break….thank gawd.
I need an Excedrin.
The Ugly American on January 31, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Can someone wake me up when I have free heathcare?
Chuck Schick on January 31, 2008 at 8:56 PM
Hillary translation=The Democratic Party is not ready for an African American president so long as I,Hillary is running and pulling the strings!So ship up,or ship out!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:56 PM
There’s a difference?
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 8:56 PM
So let me get this straight..my tax rates will be rolled back to pre-Bush, Ill pay extra taxes to help crack addicts get insurance, and Ill pay a massive Global Warming tax?
malkinmania on January 31, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Because she’s a LIAR!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:58 PM
People are actually voting for these 2? Good GOD Almighty! I can’t watch anymore…I’ll have to read Michelle’s live blog.
SouthernGent on January 31, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Hillary uses the 35 years experience line.
Still a crock.
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Now she wants the abused and neglected kids’ votes
malkinmania on January 31, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Thirty five years experience,if Obama is going to drop the hammer it’s now!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 9:00 PM
I worked for the Black Panthers.
mred on January 31, 2008 at 9:00 PM
I thought China was great on women’s rights, they support abortion!
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Come on Osama..be agressive against monica’s ex-boyfreinds wife.
malkinmania on January 31, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Wasn’t that Joylin Elders beside Chelsey!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 9:02 PM
You’ll feel much better about yourself. Change is good.
a capella on January 31, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Why didn’t Romney slam McCain like that last night!?!??! (He’s on H/C)
SouthernGent on January 31, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Wow, that smile was terrifying Hillary.
RightWinged on January 31, 2008 at 9:03 PM
This is a nightmare! If McCain is the nominee all of us need to vote!! I don’t want hear this write-in candidate crap! I don’t want to vote for McCain but I will!
She is out of her mind!
JDH on January 31, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Barry Hussein Obama….we hardly knew ya…maybe Tony Rezko can you let you run his business while he is “tied up”
LordMaximus on January 31, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Hillary: Government is all. Trust government. Believe in Government.
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Profit motive: Juan/Billary.
mred on January 31, 2008 at 9:03 PM
You keep smirking Obama, and when you’re facing Romney, I bet your ROI is worse than his.
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Does anyone else get the impression that these “journalists” want to rip off their clothes and orgy with these 2?
RightWinged on January 31, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Hillary: Elect me I have breasts!
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:05 PM
I keep forgetting that Bush isn’t running this year.
askheaves on January 31, 2008 at 9:05 PM
“..having a woman President would be a huge change for the world…”
Drink!
Purple Fury on January 31, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Invoke Vagina!
*drink*
The Ugly American on January 31, 2008 at 9:05 PM
“I think the first woman president would be a “change”"… First woman president!!!!???? F**K off, how about being a good president you idiot!
RightWinged on January 31, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Yay! Identity politics!
Spirit of 1776 on January 31, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Obama compares his financial management ability favorably to Mitt’s based on the amount of campaign donations harvested. All we need now is some talk about fried squirrel and the circle will be completed.
a capella on January 31, 2008 at 9:06 PM
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Ugly American on January 31, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Who is the woman candidate again?
JDH on January 31, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Did you say “Inversed Vagina”?
You’re sick!! You’re sick!
Oh wait now I see what you said. But I’ve already pressed the submit button.
CABE on January 31, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Can’t watch anymore, I already fell asleep once.
CP on January 31, 2008 at 9:07 PM
8 years of Clinton = Scrap defense, respond to terrorist attacks with police, scrap intelligence, get involved in Kosovo, screwing interns…
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:08 PM
Is he using “Identity Politics” when he calls it the White House?
JDH on January 31, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Obama: What’s right for America is what Europe thinks.
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:09 PM
These fake ‘journalists’ are hysterical. Its like an old SCTV skit.
malkinmania on January 31, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Will the UN be on the ballot in November?
JDH on January 31, 2008 at 9:10 PM
These people don’t say much do they?
bnelson44 on January 31, 2008 at 9:10 PM
I went to that school.
It’s Petticoat Junction Elementry School in Arkansas.
The Ugly American on January 31, 2008 at 9:10 PM
the government is your father, your mother, your village….
William Amos on January 31, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Hillary: I demand a return to Clinton. MORE CLINTON.
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:11 PM
What the hell is 007 doing there?
RightWinged on January 31, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Because I uttered change,now shutup,next question!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 9:11 PM
I’m so confused. I thought Hillary wanted Democratic voters to judge her on her husband’s merits. If not, she is going to sink.
Spirit of 1776 on January 31, 2008 at 9:12 PM
And the Dotcom Boom, and selling secrets to the Norks, and having the Twin Towers attacked TWICE!
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Yeah but they couldn’t clean up after Bubba.
They had to burn the drapes.
The Ugly American on January 31, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Hillary “If you elect me president I will let all of you women have a crack at bill I hear hes good !”
William Amos on January 31, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Can’t fool me. This is an old Twilight Zone.
mustang1 on January 31, 2008 at 9:13 PM
I can’t take it anymore… I’m out.
cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 9:13 PM
I wonder how many operatives Hilldog has in the audience to lead the cheers?
VolMagic on January 31, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Well,heres the score:
Hillary 1
Obama 0
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Oops another Hillary lie…
malkinmania on January 31, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Changeapalooza. Changearama. Changeraham Lincoln. Change for the Love of Change. Change for the Sake of Change. Change for More Change. Changing….
I think that sums it up.
JDH on January 31, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Dang, Hilldog comercial right before the debate resumed. Crafty Clintons…
VolMagic on January 31, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Irag,here comes one-upmanship!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Democrats want to offer us change…
doubleplusundead on January 31, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Hillary: RETREAT!
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:17 PM
After watching these two idiots I have to agree with you. As much as I hate the thought of casting a vote for McVain the thought of either of these two as POTUS is much worse. My major concern with McVain is the shamnesty act. At least he says that he gets it now and will put up a fence. With these two there is absolutely no doubt that we will have amnesty if either one is elected.
dawgyear on January 31, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Glad all y’all been watching. I made almost five minutes….
We’ll get to see enough of these two as they flush the country down the drain in the next eight years….
MrScribbler on January 31, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Boy one of these 2 will make that bastard Bush pay come November!
Chuck Schick on January 31, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Bill Clinton gave free healthcare to Iraq..when he bombed the aspirin factory, it was free aspirins for all in the rubble.
malkinmania on January 31, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Ron Paul signs at the Dem debate. Hehehe.
CABE on January 31, 2008 at 9:17 PM
I hate you McCain.
Unfortunately, your plan does not entail surrender, meaning I’m rather obliged to vote for you.
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:17 PM
It seems like it would take extra effort to spell so poorly.
The Race Card on January 31, 2008 at 9:18 PM
The Iragys that sided with us,you mean the ones that like Hillary!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 9:18 PM
For the Sake of Everything Holy…..
This woman can not be our next CinC.
VolMagic on January 31, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Hillary: I will end this war, and don’t give a damn about the bloodshed or aftereffects. I’ll just blame Bush.
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Sweet! More immigrants!
Will they be treated like illegal aliens, or second class citizens (like our legal immigrants)?
askheaves on January 31, 2008 at 9:19 PM
If you’re bored/disgusted (I am!)…Coulter alert on FOXNews.
SouthernGent on January 31, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Still wouldn’t vote for McVain even with these two idiots. What is McVain or any of the Repubes doing right now to enforce what has been agreed upon regarding a fence? Absolutely ‘nada”
TOPV on January 31, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Obama: RETREAT IRAQ! No support! No bases! Attack Pakistan!…
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Tupac-istan
carbon_footprint on January 31, 2008 at 9:20 PM
To be fair, Jocelyn Elders has been out of the picture so long I think its forgivable.
doubleplusundead on January 31, 2008 at 9:20 PM
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