Open thread: Nuclear war in California
posted at 7:30 pm on January 31, 2008 by Allahpundit
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8 p.m. ET on CNN, one on one at last. The conventional wisdom has it that this is the Messiah’s chance to take her down a peg before Super Tuesday but I think it’s just as much her chance to prove she can stand toe to toe with him on the same stage. There are no significant policy differences to be hashed out here, only health-care arcania and withdrawal nuance. Which means it’s a matter of style, which in turn makes her the underdog.
This freaky little tidbit makes me think she’s about to play the gender card again, so look for some faux hurt feelings about the SOTU snub. It would be awesomely awesome if Obama hit her over the latest BJ revelations, but he’s probably wary enough about Rezko that he doesn’t want to get in the mud. What are they going to talk about for two hours? Hillary’s scummy Florida politicking? Batten down the hatches for the most excruciatingly substance-less — yet possibly vicious — debate yet!
Sound off below. Video to come, if there’s something worth clipping.
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Mcguyver on January 31, 2008 at 7:32 PM
I thought something smelled funny here, today.
– Oceanside, CA
Mazztek on January 31, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Watch it conservatives. One of them will be your president if you sit at home.
William Amos on January 31, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Allahpundit you insensitive boor!
Don’t you know the Democrats are all about nuclear disarmament?
These people don’t even want America to utilize nuclear power for electricity!
(Nor do they want us to use gas, coal, LNG, or any fuel that might possibly be considered efficient in any way, shape, or form.)
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Dude, how much irony do you possess? This is CALIFORNIA, and where they’re at there are a lot of sissies, not warriers.
Too bad I can’t stand to watch them.
Entelechy on January 31, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Wow, let’s see, “I’m gonna disarm America first!”
“No I am!”
“Nuh uh, I am.”
“Well, I’ll drive all business out of the country first.”
“Nuh uh, I will”…
etc, etc, etc.
NTWR on January 31, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Has HRC hit him on the anti-gay activist Donnie McClurkin thing yet? She could bring that up and hope he sticks a foot in his mouth.
rw on January 31, 2008 at 7:43 PM
It’s truly agonizing. I would even prefer Bill over Hil or Barrak. The thought that this country could be led by someone unqualified.
Can’t we even find a Marxist with some decent executive experience???
JiangxiDad on January 31, 2008 at 7:43 PM
From what I can tell, Hillary is well ahead in Ca. and the that means a HillBill nomination.
Speakup on January 31, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Which one will say “timetables”?
profitsbeard on January 31, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Rasmussen today release their newest california poll and its Hillary at 43% and Barak at 40%
William Amos on January 31, 2008 at 7:45 PM
If this debate is anything like the last one I am going to watch it for the sheer World Wrestling Entertainment value of it all. The last one was fun!
SimplyKimberly on January 31, 2008 at 7:46 PM
I just thought of it but with the animosity between blacks and Hispanics is there a chance that McCain will defeat Obama based on a huge shift in hispanics to his campaign ?
William Amos on January 31, 2008 at 7:47 PM
From the previous debates I’ve seen, Hillary actually has done better than Obama.
terryannonline on January 31, 2008 at 7:49 PM
The Hallmark Channel? Dude. Hillary is going right after Obama’s single woman with popcorn base.
Spirit of 1776 on January 31, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Microtrends say that Hispanic Catholics vote Democrat, Protestant vote Republican.
Spirit of 1776 on January 31, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Hey! Leave the Hallmark Channel alone!
That’s where the M*A*S*H reruns are at.
CABE on January 31, 2008 at 7:51 PM
lol. My bad. The single women with popcorn and CABE channel. Apologies for the misrepresentation!
Spirit of 1776 on January 31, 2008 at 7:52 PM
this promises to be stupid
trailortrash on January 31, 2008 at 7:54 PM
I saw on the politipoll site that the reason for the larger number of democratic voters is because women are voting overwhelmingly in the democratic primary. But its spliting between the two of them. And less women are voting in the republican primaries than usual ?
Dont know fully what that means.
William Amos on January 31, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Like I said in another thread today:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/31/billy-jeff-soothes-jitters-over-economic-slowdown-by-calling-for-economic-slowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-921776
RightWinged on January 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Obama has held off of attacking hillary because he is the messenger of hope. It doesnt look good for the Messiah to be swearing at someone else.
William Amos on January 31, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Though Hillary probably could make a few saints swear
William Amos on January 31, 2008 at 7:57 PM
What are they possibly going to talk about for 2 hours? There isn’t a single issue that the two of them have a measurable difference on.
MrSteve on January 31, 2008 at 7:58 PM
It means that soon I’ll be the only woman left in the Republican party. With Laura Ingram and Michelle, I guess, so I’ll be in good company!
TX Mom on January 31, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Now wait a second MrSteve! I’m gonna have to take issue with this. Clearly one of them is a man and one of them is a woman. And I think one of them may be black?
Lot of differences in this debate here tonight. Fasten your seatbelts. Gonna be fascinating!
CABE on January 31, 2008 at 7:59 PM
LOL@ CABE
trailortrash on January 31, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Their husbands do the voting for them.
I kid, I kid. Put away your rolling pins. ;)
fourstringfuror on January 31, 2008 at 8:01 PM
But, Silky dropped out yesterday.
fourstringfuror on January 31, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Let the games begin!
Vizzini on January 31, 2008 at 8:03 PM
OMG what a love fest
flyboy777 on January 31, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Old Crusty is especially crusty tonight.
steveegg on January 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Ground breaking, never before, blah blah blah.
A politician is a politician is a politician.
Bad Penny on January 31, 2008 at 8:05 PM
The minority before the female?
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:06 PM
I figured for the dem debate i’d get completely sloshed before it started. This way, ill have a good time and not remeber it. Huzzah to me!
VolMagic on January 31, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Obama: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Vizzini on January 31, 2008 at 8:06 PM
One of them will be my president even if I go to the polls since I will be writing in my choice.
ihasurnominashun on January 31, 2008 at 8:06 PM
HAHA! I see a Clinton/Obama ticket…Billy Jeff must have brokered a deal
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Classy start for Barak… let’s see how quickly this deteriorates.
cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 8:08 PM
someone gave them the ‘play nice in the playground’ talk
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Wow. Obama’s going to lose this thing if it’s a love fest tonight.
Vizzini on January 31, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Kini on January 31, 2008 at 8:09 PM
I hate HRC sooooo mch
VolMagic on January 31, 2008 at 8:09 PM
what are the drinking game words tonight?
cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 8:09 PM
“Change,” “leadership,” “moment.”
Vizzini on January 31, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Discussion?!?!
PUT A STAKE IN HER OBAMA!!!!!
What is this kissy kissy crap?
LordMaximus on January 31, 2008 at 8:10 PM
@ cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Who needs words. When get disgusted with Clinton’s stupid faces, just drink and suppress the urge to punch the tv.
muyoso on January 31, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Both sucking up to Edwards. Heh.
Dash on January 31, 2008 at 8:10 PM
They both mention Silky - they want his supporters…
Dork B. on January 31, 2008 at 8:11 PM
demoIDIOTS
custer on January 31, 2008 at 8:11 PM
And ‘Bush’ and ‘failure’ in the same sentence
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Lordy, lordy, why don’t they sit in each other’s laps? The focus groups must have spoken: be nice to each other, lefty-wackos.
It’s sad we can’t match that kind of civility, even if it’s as phony as one of BJ’s finger-wagging pronouncements.
MrScribbler on January 31, 2008 at 8:12 PM
UGH, why dont you hold Obama’s hand Hillary? You sicken me.
muyoso on January 31, 2008 at 8:12 PM
how about “wrong war,” “new direction,” “sub-prime,” “darfur,” andn “Bush”
cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Hillary is “brown shirt”. Liberal Fascism anyone?
mred on January 31, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Oh her stuipidity is showing now…that ‘freeze’ would freeze the economy!
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Moratorium on forcolsures and freezing interest rates?!?! OK Comrade Hilldog…. now tell us how many pounds of wheat we are expected to prodec per acre.
VolMagic on January 31, 2008 at 8:13 PM
my mind can not compute her shrillness
custer on January 31, 2008 at 8:13 PM
so “white guys” are out?
cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 8:13 PM
mred on January 31, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Liberal Fascism.
VolMagic on January 31, 2008 at 8:13 PM
duly noted!
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:14 PM
I think I just threw my neck yawning.
Just pick a winner and get the damn communism started already.
Chuck Schick on January 31, 2008 at 8:14 PM
I’m a tad late,so far Hillary sounds like she’s sucking
up,she probably has an axe behind her back!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:14 PM
constitution admendment. can not run for president if you are white male
custer on January 31, 2008 at 8:14 PM
This Love Fest will destroy Obama…it plays right into HRC’s cards…
WOW! Did they strike a deal?
LordMaximus on January 31, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Wow, talk about blatant identity BS “You can tell just by looking at us (read: I’m a woman, he’s black) - we are not more of the same (smile program initiated)”
RightWinged on January 31, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Hillary looks like the joker sitting there with that smile. Ugh I hate her.
muyoso on January 31, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Hillary wins.
Vizzini on January 31, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Everyone, meet your next President. Mr. Barack Obama!
VolMagic on January 31, 2008 at 8:15 PM
why isn’t Juan McVain up there with them. He’s pretty much the same…
cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 8:16 PM
I can’t stand how she nods her head at her own d*mn answers.
Spirit of 1776 on January 31, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Let’s see, Dems debating or Lost . . . not a hard choice. Lost it is! Y’all have fun.
TX Mom on January 31, 2008 at 8:16 PM
This debate is going to sent the tone for the two
of them,either war,or war postponed.haha
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Blam Bush for everything
custer on January 31, 2008 at 8:16 PM
lost is a rerun… the new episode is in an hour.
cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Gimme a break Obama, when in doubt say it’s Bush’s fault.
Dash on January 31, 2008 at 8:16 PM
OMG. Bush didn’t have oversight of a sector of the economy?!? Well…. welll… thats just chaos. A free market is just CHOAS!!!!
VolMagic on January 31, 2008 at 8:17 PM
WHAAAA?? 10 BILLION! TO SAVE THE PPL WHO GOT IN OVER THEIR HEADS??!?!?!
Sounds worse than Bush’s plan
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:17 PM
Damn, all the people who didn’t read the fine print get to keep their homes! Why didn’t I buy a fancy pad so I can get into this?
MrScribbler on January 31, 2008 at 8:18 PM
What about the report before that Mr Obama?
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Yeah, but if the NIE said to jump off of a bridge, would you?
cannonball on January 31, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Well pretty clear what this debate is going to be about: praising John Edwards.
Spirit of 1776 on January 31, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Wolfy isn’t going to be combative,Liberal love
is in the air!haha
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Here’s my plan….Tort reform! The lawyers are the reason that the crunch is on anyway.
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:19 PM
What sort of lottery windfall do I get for getting a house I could afford and a mortgage I understood?
Wait- NOTHING?!?!?
Chuck Schick on January 31, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Democrats scare me.
bojack on January 31, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Question:
Hillary, how are we going to pay for your health care plan when your husband who is stumping for you said today we need to slow down the economy for the environment?
LordMaximus on January 31, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Obama less lib than Hil? Maybe on some issues. He rejects freezing interest rates and rejects compelling folks to buy health insurance. I’m impressed yet again. A worthy opponent, unlike the Unworthy One, Hillary.
petefrt on January 31, 2008 at 8:21 PM
I’m enjoying Hillarys smirk and the look she has is
wanna take a plane ride!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:21 PM
I might as well start bending over now.
Chuck Schick on January 31, 2008 at 8:21 PM
MANDATEMANDATEMANDATEBIGGOVERNMENTMANDATE
There’s no difference between these two. It’s all Government Government Government.
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Ye Hillary, a SinglePayer System is hard to pass, because most people know it doesn’t work.
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Hillary means the Lib basement bloggers that
don’t have to get off their !sses!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Wow. They’ve got some clever ways of describing a mandate for our own good.
Us young people are pretty dumb, aren’t we?
askheaves on January 31, 2008 at 8:23 PM
That was a missed tackle Mrs. Clinton!
Has the government ever made anything more affordable?
Shared responsibility? Codeword: socialism
lsutiger on January 31, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Is this the first Silkys name been mentioned!
canopfor on January 31, 2008 at 8:24 PM
I’m so excited, comrade Chuck!
2008 is going to be a very good year for our cause!
I do hope that soon to be Czar Hillary tells us all what the stock market prices and interest rates will be this year!
I feel like it could be a very good year for cattle futures!
Dorvillian on January 31, 2008 at 8:24 PM
4th at least.
Spirit of 1776 on January 31, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Special interests *drink*
BKennedy on January 31, 2008 at 8:26 PM
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