Video: Rush vows to fight on!
posted at 2:15 pm on January 30, 2008 by Bryan
Gotta love the Maha Rushie.
RUSH: The same media that couldn’t call New Hampshire right still shamelessly in the prediction game, is predicting my demise and your demise. (boos) But I say, “Bah!” The same media that’s losing circulation and readers and viewers and respect (applause) is predicting my demise.
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RUSH: My friends, my friends, there is reason for optimism, there is reason for hope. By the way: “change” is a stupid slogan, and so is “hope,” but I know some of you want hope. Be of good cheer. From the shadows of this setback, let me offer this uplifting thought. In Florida, half the liberals voted for Mrs. Clinton. One-third of the Republicans voted for Senator McCain. Our friends in the media predicting my demise (boos) talk about how conservatism is dead. Let me ask a simple question, ladies and gentlemen. Why is it that all of the Republican candidates claim, to now carry the mantle of Ronald Reagan? Senator McCain is the most recent. “McCain Claims Conservative Mantle.” Said McCain (impression), “It shows one thing: I’m the conservative leader who can unite the party.” How can I be said to have lost, ladies and gentlemen, when what I stand for is rock ribbed conservatism, and each one of these candidates — each one of them flawed, by the way, which has caused many conservatives to be wandering aimlessly in the electoral woods. How can it be said that I have lost or that conservatism has lost, when all of our Republican candidates claim to be conservative and to carry the conservative mantle?
Good point.
RUSH: In fact, it looks to me like Fred Barnes’ candidate, Rudy Giuliani, has now dropped out. It looks like David Brooks’ candidate, Mike Huckabee, has no traction — he hasn’t won anything since Iowa — and he needs to get out. Tom Brokaw’s candidate, Hillary Clinton, she’s in deep trouble going into Super Tuesday. The race card didn’t work. She needs the “firewall” of the Latino vote. But Tom Brokaw’s candidate is floundering. Tim Russert’s candidate, Barack Obama, seems to be doing better than expected. Good for you, Tim. I’m proud of you. Olbermann’s candidate, Kucinich, is now gone. He’s back in Ohio, trying to keep his seat against a primary challenger. Mort Kondracke’s candidate, Ron Paul, gets weirder by the minute. (boos)
Good points all.
Update (AP): So he ended up using the same spin the Observer predicted? That it’s some kind of moral victory that McCain succeeded by pretending to be conservative even though Rush has been hollering for weeks that Republicans shouldn’t believe him? Good lord.
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You expected something else?
bnelson44 on January 30, 2008 at 2:17 PM
Bah, all the cotton tops in Florida just wanted to vote for the Country Club Republican McCain. They don’t care about Social Security or the fact that illegal immigration will bleed us dry. They will be long gone before that happens.
They don’t listen to Rush, they’re too busy on the back 9.
NTWR on January 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM
As long as Huckabee feels he can hurt Romney’s chances, he’ll stay in the race. There’s no love lost between those two.
Slublog on January 30, 2008 at 2:22 PM
Fred what might have been sigh
I wish I could still be idealistic about politics but pragmatism always slaps me back to earth. If Mitt had dropped out after New Hampshire Fred would have been choice for Conservatives and the Huck people wwould have been willing to abandon him to run to Fred. That would have made it Fred vs McCain in Florida and Florida would have back Fred.
Now Huck is finally slain and his people will drift to McCain because they would never back Mitt. Mitt being the conservative alternative was a disaster in the first magnatude.
Just check History. The last 3 Democratic Presidents have all been southerners. For the Republicans it has been either a Califonian (Nixon and Reagan) or a Southerner (The Bushes)
The South has been the key to victory from either party. Look to hillary or Obama to reach south (Senator Webb ?)
McCain as well needs to reach out to that area.
William Amos on January 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Now you do you all notice here how Bryan is the one that had to post this thoughtful blog and how it’s AP that has to come in throw another digg at Rush?
What did I tell you here?
Now do you believe that AP has the gall to post a stupid comment on my little blog?
Of course he does.
He has a big ego to protect.
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Yeah, It’s just south of the Rio Grande for both parties now.
Deety on January 30, 2008 at 2:27 PM
i think it poetitc that the leading republican must tack to the right and the leading democrat must tack to the left to gain support. it’s usually both parties tacking to the middle around this time in the election cycle.
DrW on January 30, 2008 at 2:27 PM
If you really think I posted that comment you have rocks in your head. See if you can find out the IP of the person who did from your logs; I’ll be happy to cross-check it with our own logs to see if I can find out the culprit.
Allahpundit on January 30, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Mort Kondracke was a Paul supporter?
jp on January 30, 2008 at 2:30 PM
AP-
Is it the fact that Rush made more money this week than you did last year or that he’s better looking than you that makes you such a hater?
Sugar Land on January 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM
“Rush 08″ signs in the back. Funny.
Weebork on January 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Candidates have always gone to the far right or left to get the party nomination. Then they move to the center to win the presidency.
PappaMac on January 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM
All three. Apologies to everyone for pointing out how lame his spin is. I’m way out of line.
Allahpundit on January 30, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Limbaugh’s hated McCain for at least a decade. It diminishes the man (Limbaugh). I don’t know if McCain told him to go Cheney himself once, or what.
Coulter hates McCain and Giuliani, and didn’t like Fred much. Dobson said he’d never consider voting for Giuliani or McCain because they aren’t good Christians.
McCain’s 30% of support was firm where the support for Giuliani was soft, and was able to be stripped away by Huckster and Romney. So we get McCain.
Look, there’s a lot of us who liked McCain in 2000 but were told that GW Bush was a better conservative, and McCain was terrible. So we took GW, and got what? Out of control spending, degradation of the military, advocacy for amnesty, flailing WRT Putin, a large presence in Kosovo even though Bush ran against nation building, etc.
I’m not a McCain supporter, but if he wins the nomination, he will be the only one on the ballot who won’t screw the military. It’s not much, but it’s enough.
funky chicken on January 30, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Wow, it’s real hard to predict what Rush is going to say. He’s not predictable it’s just that he’s principled.
Ian on January 30, 2008 at 2:33 PM
I am proud to say that I shared in conservatism’s collective history. I was there for the Rush ’08 press conference.
regal on January 30, 2008 at 2:35 PM
Romney’s spent tons of money, and tons of time campaigning so far. He’s racked up the most impressive endorsements and supporters from the elite leadership and pundits of the GOP. He hasn’t caught on with GOP primary voters, and people expect him to be able to win in the general election?
I was a Fredhead, Rudy was a strong second place, but after that, it doesn’t matter to me between McCain or Romney.
funky chicken on January 30, 2008 at 2:36 PM
“A P” posted on your blog, not the classy “AP”.
Graybark on January 30, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Found more Rush video here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_TL4XZdyo3g
CK MacLeod on January 30, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Allahpundit LOL
I enjoy listening to Limbaugh, and think he’s really funny and very smart. I probably agree with his substantive problems with McCain, but he just goes totally nuts about McCain where he doesn’t do the same with any other squishy GOPer.
Think about it….Limbaugh was the one who got pissed at Romney for throwing wide stance Craig under the bus.
Wide stance is a better republican than McCain? c’mon
funky chicken on January 30, 2008 at 2:38 PM
Of course. Rush’s default setting is “right” even when he’s wrong or, at best, agnostic.
Vizzini on January 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Good gawd Mcguyver let it go. Pull your pants back up, it’s YOUR ego that’s showing. Now go back and host your own stinkin’ little blog.
Brat on January 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM
It’s going to be fun watching McCain’s natural constituency (Democrats and the media) turn on him once he gets the nomination.
Those that voted for him because he “is the only one who can beat Hillary” are going to look pretty stupid when the most “civilized race in history” turns into a bloodbath at McCain’s expense.
edgehead on January 30, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Nope. Allah has far better grammar skills (and manners) than that hack.
Did you write it yourself, or get punked? From your tone, I’m going to have to guess the former.
Tanya on January 30, 2008 at 2:40 PM
Romney is a venture capitalist. What he did to make is money was buy failing companies, outsource and fire people. The Democrats will roast him alive in the general election.
bnelson44 on January 30, 2008 at 2:40 PM
don’t hate the player, hate the game
jp on January 30, 2008 at 2:40 PM
I had an “Allah Pundit” comment on my blog a few weeks ago. The IP was coming out of Utah, for what it’s worth.
Slublog on January 30, 2008 at 2:41 PM
There’s actually a grain of evidence in that. When I comment on other people’s sites, which is rare (Ace and Protein Wisdom occasionally), it’s always either as “Allah” or “Allahpundit” as one word. So whoever’s spoofing me as “Allah Pundit” didn’t quite do their homework.
I really would like that IP, though. I’m sure it’s one of our commenters who did it and that’s certainly a bannable offense.
Allahpundit on January 30, 2008 at 2:41 PM
McCain a country club Republican? Are you serious?
Vizzini on January 30, 2008 at 2:42 PM
- All people are born alike – except Republicans and Democrats.
- A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
- I, not events, have the power to make me happy or unhappy today. I can choose which it shall be. Yesterday is dead, tomorrow hasn’t arrived yet. I have just one day, today, and I’m going to be happy in it.
Groucho Marx
Rush in another life.
Kini on January 30, 2008 at 2:42 PM
I think you have my IP already, Slu, but I’m happy to leave a comment over there so you can compare and see I’m not in Utah. Not that I think you doubt me, but still.
Allahpundit on January 30, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Nah, don’t bother. I figured it wasn’t you. You’ve made it clear you’re one of those elitist New Yorker types. Wish I’d saved the IP address, though.
Slublog on January 30, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Another sad fact to consider is that McCain with his moderate stances and Immigrant stance may actually put California into play in November. He has an outside chance of carrying that state.
William Amos on January 30, 2008 at 2:45 PM
so my only question now is whether i guess it’s just rush, or are there multiple competing founts of the “real conservative” groupthink? i guess hannity might be another, but he’s just a rush shadow. savage is definately one i”m sure.
it just seems to me that this business of “real conservatives” rino-izing actual conservatives is destined to continue until the sloppy, pathetic baby elephant dance of “real conservatives” can fit comfortably in a hotel room.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Rush threw an interesting question out there on his program today that is worth repeating:
For all of you Juanites who are demanding that the rest of us just shut up and get behind McCain…… What if Romney clinches the nomination? You all going to heed your own advice or is this something else?
highhopes on January 30, 2008 at 2:48 PM
In 06 Republicans fought against the Democrat policies, but they lost because too few Republicans actually stood for Conservaitve principles. Right now Rush is standing against just about all the candidatates left in the race, but in my opinon he has lost and is giving up on a Conservative White House this election, because he isn’t standing for anyone.
I generally listen to Rush and agree with him but I don’t buy his spin. He lost. Yeah, people like the way conservatism sound. They like the strength it projects, but when McCain talks about being conservative it is empty, and when Americans buy into his rhetoric it dilutes and weakens conservatism. Yeah, conservatism and Rush lost this round. I hope they don’t loose again, but when you spin and don’t honestly identify what has happened you are asking for more of the same. As long as Rush isn’t going to stand for anyone this cyle he may as well fold and bow out of politics side of this election and just talk about conservatism. That way we still remember what is was four years from now.
Tim Pancoast on January 30, 2008 at 2:52 PM
I don’t think Rush has any personal space to complain about McCain winning. Neither does Michelle Malkin (sorry). It’s not enough to approach an issue from a negative standpoint – “don’t do this” – you need to provide an alternative course of action. I’m not sure if an endorsement from Rush and / or Michelle would have made a difference. But they both stood on the sidelines on this one and rather than cheering for a candidate they chose to boo a candidate they didn’t like.
Let’s be honest: everyone wanted Fred! to run a strong campaign, but he was way too little way too late. This was strongly apparent in late November / early December and there were good signs clear back in the summer of 2007 for anyone who wanted to see them. A good deal of the base refused to move on, and kept holding out hope that a miracle would occur rather than moving on to the next best candidate. Even after Fred! got smoked in the first few contests, they stayed married to the corpse of his campaign. So the “strong conservative” vote got split, and McCain is a now a notch away to triangulating himself a primary victory.
Lesson to Fred!heads in 2012: The best is the enemy of the good.
Lesson to Rush and Michelle: Have the guts to endorse somebody – if you feel you must stay above the fray, then please feel free to STFU when things don’t go the way you want. If you didn’t want McCain, you should have had the guts to endorse Romney.
/me dons flame-proof clothing.
ErikTheRed on January 30, 2008 at 2:53 PM
“real conservative” = anti abortion, apparently.
Rudy isn’t a “real conservative,” right?
funky chicken on January 30, 2008 at 2:53 PM
At this point, what really is there left to say? It’s either this, what Rush said, or simply admitting that the 20 million listeners and the rest of the conservative talk radio industry are losing. To the MSM’s favorite Republican candidate.
I think Rush has a legitimate and fair point that for all the talk of conservatism being dead, McCain goes right back to declaring that he is the man to unite the conservative base.
For Rush, it’s either take the moral victory, or throw up your hands and tell everyone to enjoy the destruction of the Republican party.
Which one do you honestly expect Rush to pick?
Call me delusional if you want, but this thing still is not freakin’ over. I’m fed up with the fact that after every single one of these state caucuses/primaries/random mishmash of people following odd voting rules, the media annoints one candidate at the top, and everyone else is done for.
It’s one thing to think Hunter, Thompson, Paul, and Tancredo had a real shot at this thing. (Sorry Fredheads. I liked him too.)
It’s quite another to think that, with Huckabee leading in Texas, which is winner take all, and California NOT being winner take all, that it’s still too soon to call it for Captain Amnesty.
Hawkins1701 on January 30, 2008 at 2:54 PM
I’ll just repeat here what I said on another thread:
When McVain loses in the general, remember this “Rush/talk radio have lost their influence” meme everytime someone argues “Rush/talk radio caused us to lose the election by getting conservatives to sit out.”
You can’t have it both ways.
thirteen28 on January 30, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Allah vs. McGuyver
I’ll bet the house on Allah (damn New Yorker).
omnipotent on January 30, 2008 at 2:56 PM
EriktheRed, I agree with you.
funky chicken on January 30, 2008 at 2:58 PM
degradation of the military,
What the?!!? Bush stood up for our Military, if he did nothing else!
kcd on January 30, 2008 at 2:59 PM
AP, I love you more than anything, but as a super rush-listener, he was not “spinning”. His point is, he’s not even running for anything, he’s a radio guy, and yet the media reports on primary night as if Candidate Limbaugh lost– and conservatism is dead. What’s he’s saying is, if conservatism is so dead and undesirable, then why is McCain calling himself a “conservative who can unite the party” and a “[Reagan] foot soldier”? (See Florida victory speech).
Pasalubong on January 30, 2008 at 3:00 PM
footnote– why then not hawk his “maverick, moderate” image?
Pasalubong on January 30, 2008 at 3:01 PM
are you serious?
which “juanite” has demanded that you “shut up”?
what stupid derisive nicknames have us “juanites” devised for romney? can you think of one?
which “juanites” started ever even hinted that they’d “stay home” to “teach” whoever “a lesson” if the other guy won?
which “juanites” started deperately suggesting that armed revolution was an alternative if their guy lost?
you romney supporters, “real conservatives”, are batsh*t, irrational psychotics. you’re obcessed, solopsistic and atavistic and now you’re projecting. so, friends, here’s a reality check:
how many of you “real conservatives” were anti-romney 90 days ago? how many of you were fervently against “TEH ONLY CANDIDATE 4 REEL CONTHERVATVES!!!” because of his flip-flopping and his mormonism and his liberal reign in massachussets?
get over yourselves.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 3:03 PM
That’s a great point.
You realize, of course, that Mac will try to do just that in this scenario.
“Darn that Rush Limbaugh, that ‘just an entertainer’ guy, made me lose this election……….”
No influence, ay Macky?
Hawkins1701 on January 30, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Dude, you’ve taken leave of your senses. Allah doesn’t say the foul things your commenter did.
The frustration level in this joint is at the boiling point.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on January 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Maybe (probably) I hang out in the wrong blogs, but I haven’t noticed a single McCainiac making an “if Mitt’s nominated, I’ll stay home” threat. That seems to be a specialty of the self-important purveyors of conservative purism, who, with Fred long gone, have found in Mitt a rather unlikely hero.
About the only time I see McCain supporters asking or demanding that anyone “shut up” is when their attacks on McCain go over the line from reasonable if vigorous disagreement to disgusting attacks – calling him a “traitor,” rendering his name in Spanish in a thinly veiled appeal to bigotry, that kind of thing. Even then, most of us realize, I hope, that language of that sort probably helps McCain in both the short and long term. Getting booed and heckled and derided at CPAC might even help McCain (though we’d all prefer something more grown up). Faulting him for not being extreme enough on immigration, for making deals with people who have the wrong letter after their names, for being friendly and even convivial with people who may not share all of his views and values – it reminds those from the center of the party to the center of the electorate that, even if McCain really is a conservative who established his credentials when many of his critics hadn’t even been born yet, at least he isn’t one of THOSE people, and that supporting him means supporting a party that welcomes independence, pragmatism, and diversity.
CK MacLeod on January 30, 2008 at 3:04 PM
The Great One.
petefrt on January 30, 2008 at 3:06 PM
As a McCain voter I can without hesitation say yes. I’ll even campaign for him in the general despite my misgivings during the primary. His name will adorn my bumper, I will go visit his rallies and show support.
And no one is telling you not to support the guy in the primary you want to support. That’s your call when you’re in the booth.
McLovin on January 30, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Look, it is pretty simple on McFibb.
He has a track record on issues in the Senate.
Now he is trying to re-cast his position on those issues.
The issues were liberal, the re-cast is conservative.
This is called doing one thing, saying another. In his case loudly.
Here we call that lying, but elsewhere they call it politics.
Starlink on January 30, 2008 at 3:08 PM
how can that be so? their absolutism won them that mile high, solid-gold, jewell-encrusted fence which spans from the gulf to the pacific.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 3:08 PM
YEEECCCHHH!!!!!
edgehead on January 30, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Dude, that’s way over the top and you owe a pile of apologies. Yes, there are some people who are saying crazy stuff in bitter defeat, but some of us have been calmly assessing our options through the entire race and putting our money and votes where our mouths are.
ErikTheRed on January 30, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Does this sound like your computer?
Or is this your evil twin brother?
See for yourself.
What does your computer show?
The way you frame the comment and the spirit of it sounds like you or your evil twin.
Besides, who would be even able to respond so quickly, unless you’re the guard dog of this blog?
See the time lapse between when I posted my comments on HotAir and the time the comment/s appeared on my blog.
So now he is challenging me to prove it’s him?
Poppycock!
Without going into his office/bedroom and measuring his monitor and checking his IP address, etc.
How can I prove it?
I can’t. That’s why he’s challenging me.
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 3:16 PM
As far as California goes I can only hope that those conservatives who are rightfully and bitterly disappointed in Governor Arnold Kennedy-Schwarzenegger (sic?) can draw the parallels to McCain and vote accordingly.
Whether the the conservative block has the numbers to overcome the open-borders block remains to be seen. I fear that the McCain/Bush strategy to throw over conservatism in order to make the party more attractive to the growing Hispanic vote may prove to be the winning one inthe short term.
This election has been in the making for almost a decade now on both sides of the aisle and it is all about the established interests in both parties making calculations based on demographics purely and simply. Principals and national security will be adhered to only in so far as they are not factors in this particular calculus.
Deety on January 30, 2008 at 3:16 PM
In the context of the screaming in your other post, I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. What exactly are you trying to communicate?
ErikTheRed on January 30, 2008 at 3:18 PM
As Rush said, even if he voted for McFibb, “it may not matter”.
The MSM will turn on him like he’s a jackrabbit at a coyote picnic.
Hillary or Obama in a landslide, and the republicans were stupid enough with the blue bloods to buy into the moderate swan song. The left will simply say, “Thank you very much”.
MSM will paint him already as “how old…” and get him to blow up a dozen times and “too troubled a temperment to have his hand on the doomsday button”.
Starlink on January 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM
It’s too bad you guys didn’t quote the last part of his speech, past 6:30 into the video, where Limbaugh says “there were no candidates who rose up to challenge [McCain]” and that all of the candidates were uninspired or worse, and that the base fractured and that McCain cobbled together votes to win in certain states… He then accuses the “Republican establishment” of wanting to rid the party of conservatives.
I don’t think Limbaugh is trying to bury the hatchet with McCain… I think he’s just trying to move forward and push his agenda despite the Florida setback.
Bottom line is that McCain won in Florida because he got big endorsements in the days before the election, and because the party is so fractured that both Giuliani and Huckabee were able to pull enough votes away to possibly cost Romney. I just don’t get it, and I sincerely hope and pray that Romney is able to pull this out and stop McCain.
Outlander on January 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Anyone else getting the feeling that we are entering or in the middle of an era of Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover?
PappaMac on January 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Rush was robbed!
HotAirExpert on January 30, 2008 at 3:20 PM
AP, for what it’s worth, Rush has made this point since 2006. It’s not some new “spin” that he just created to deal with the fact that his efforts to thwart McCain in FL didn’t pan out. When the dems won in 06, the line used (and I believe rightly so) was that the dems had to run their democrats as conservatives. They all tacked right. Rush’s point is not about the candidate McCain. What I mean is this. We are being told that the DEFINITION of conservatism has to be changed, in order to fit with the current “moderate climate.” And many in the MSM look to guys like McCain, and yes even Mitt, as evidence that the “old forms” are dead and useless. But what Rush is pointing out is that the ones who are supposed to herald in this new form of conservatism, are constantly trying to use the old form’s definitions as self defining. I think Rush’s statements and “spin”, as you call it, go beyond this little “showdown” between him and McCain. I think he is speaking to all of the current candidates, not just McCain. Again, Rush hasn’t just stumbled upon a convenient way to explain away McCain’s victory. He has been using this message for years, and has identified it as a looming problem. He is not concerned with McCain winning in and of itself, He is afraid that the word “conservative“, and the idea that it represents, will be understood as a manifestation of what McCain has stood for all these years as represented in the legislation he has supported. Rush is trying to highlight that dichotomy by pointing out that all the candidates, not just McCain, has to use the “old forms” of conservatism as the starting point; the place where the base is. And if that is where the base is, then those “old forms” aren’t old, they are contemporary, and viable. He is not in self-preservation mode, although some may see it that way.
Weight of Glory on January 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM
you know, you wrote a rational post above, so i’m saddling you with the responsibility: you have a lot of anti-mccain psychos to talk down from clock towers before you dare admonish me for being “over the top”.
because this isn’t just a 24-hour bug brought on by last night’s vote. this …tendency, has been SOP since 2005, probably longer. it’s corrosive.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Hey, we have a very moderate conservative governator. It’s the best we could do in a state full of brain-dead hippies. Even though I don’t agree with many of the things he does, the guy basically puts on a suit every morning, shows up to work, and spends his entire day getting kicked in the balls repeatedly by the Democrats. If he manages to keep our state out of complete bankruptcy (hey, Gray Davis tried really hard to get us there and we’re still living with the damage) I’ll still respect him in the morning.
ErikTheRed on January 30, 2008 at 3:23 PM
i think what’s intriging is that you actually take responsibility for a blog in which you consider alan keyes as a candidate.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Both Slu’s and Mcguyver’s imposter Allah Pundits are in Utah.
txsurveyor on January 30, 2008 at 3:26 PM
67.42.248.# = Salt Lake City
Tanya on January 30, 2008 at 3:32 PM
I understand, really I do. We’ve got a massive influx of those same brain dead hippies who have migrated over here to AZ because the tax-burden in CA is too high (!) and they are making their presence known at the local and state level.
Deety on January 30, 2008 at 3:33 PM
Gigs up Rather. You need a new excuse.
geckomon on January 30, 2008 at 3:38 PM
And they all congregate here in Tucson, blech.
SkinnerVic on January 30, 2008 at 3:39 PM
I stand by my last comment.
AP is calling my bluff because he knows I cannot prove him.
Period.
He’s not new to this, his online game.
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 3:43 PM
I’m not going to publish my IP information because I’ve heard that it’s possible to find out people’s identities from it. But here’s what I will do, as one last resort before having to ban you for libeling me on my own site. I’m going to go leave a comment at Slublog’s site and at Tanya’s site so that they have the IP information. Then they can come back here and tell you you’re a liar for certain.
Allahpundit on January 30, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Oh, great, jummy’s back. Time to plug in my iPod, put on my sunglasses, and hit the ‘ignore’ button…dude, put down the thesaurus and find spell check fool. You spool off more dribble than Kobie behind by 8 in the 4th. Stay on topic…and clean up your grammar!
Biffstir on January 30, 2008 at 3:49 PM
ALERT!!! ANYONE WHO CAN, LISTEN TO SEAN HANNITY RIGHT NOW! HE HAS GONE TO THE OTHER SIDE! I REPEAT, HE HAS GONE TO THE OTHER SIDE!!
kcd on January 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM
And who is his candidate? Mitt Romney (by default no less), who lost Florida despite outspending McCain and having the republican talk radio hosts bash McCain for him.
Not sure what he’s bragging about.
Dash on January 30, 2008 at 3:52 PM
What??!!!
Was he caught in a bathroom with Craig??
BacaDog on January 30, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Rush’s “spin” is not lame. Indeed, it is only half-”spin.”
Folks who blog, or comment on blogs, tend to forget that they comprise a small fraction of the population. Even someone with a megaphone like Rush has reaches a fraction of the population, and one that is mostly disposed to agree with him on issues.
Outside that group there is an enormous number of people, roughly 40%-50%, who value personal qualities and characteristics over stands on the issues. There is also a large group who don’t follow politics closely enough to know what McCain’s stands have been. It is pretty easy for McCain to sound reasonable — and conservative — on issues like illegal immigration to both of those much larger groups, because they either don’t care much or don’t know what his prior positions are.
Thus, AP was right in the first instance to conclude that Rush had made a good point. It is (to go all Hewitt on you) an objective fact that the GOP field is flawed and that each is trying to assemble as much of the traditional Reagan-esque coalition as they can muster. That McCain is at the least exaggerating his conservativism in the primaries to convince the casual GOP voter demonstrates his understanding that he cannot win by running on his actual record, even in a multi-candidate field.
The “spin” in Rush’s argument is his framing the current events as a fight between himself and the MSM. Rush generally avoids primary fights precisely because a case like this demonstrates that his influence is great, but limited. Almost by definition, Rush cannot persuade the casual voter or the voter who puts personality above the issues because those groups tend to fall outside the demo of his audience. In this instance, Rush is largely preaching to a choir and simply does not reach those he hopes to persuade. By pointing out the double-standard of the MSM, which hopes to declare him irrelevant even while obsessing over him and his influence, Rush hopes to avoid publicly confronting the limits on his influence.
Karl on January 30, 2008 at 3:57 PM
The IP address you left does not match at all the address of “Allah Pundit” that you copied earlier.
The IP of “Allah Pundit” – 67.42.248
The IP I just received on my site – 86.75.309
Just kidding. But it’s always fun to throw a pop culture reference out there for posterity.
Slublog on January 30, 2008 at 4:00 PM
My prior comment confused Bryan with AP, which I blame on AP being the side topic here.
Karl on January 30, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Seriously, though. No match whatsoever.
I’d give this one up, macguyver.
Slublog on January 30, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Fine with me.
Or you could also just simply say, “No that wasn’t me/yes that is me, I swear”, whichever applies, instead of calling my bluff.
I’m not trying to libel you, trust me.
What am I supposed to think if the only person who is capable of responding so quickly is you, the guard dog of this blog?
And then you call my bluff of which I cannot prove?
If you are so concerned about libel, then why not take it up with the “imposter”.
Just a question.
Threatening to ban me because I’m putting the pressure on and trying to figure who is posting this, accomplishes absolutely nothing.
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 4:04 PM
It would be nice; however, Blogger doesn’t allow access to the IP address of commenters, and his free SiteMeter logs neither go back that far nor provide the last octet.
Do check your e-mail; there are a couple things I didn’t want to mention publicly.
steveegg on January 30, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Interestingly, that IP prefix matches two of our commenters: CABE and Free Constitution. Doesn’t sound like FC to me, though. CABE, you want to solve the puzzle here?
Allahpundit on January 30, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Yes, I said it wasn’t me earlier. At which point you persisted. So now I have to waste my time proving to our commenters as best I can that you’re simply smearing me.
Allahpundit on January 30, 2008 at 4:08 PM
I personally doubt I’ll see that “imposter” of Allah Pundit anymore.
Doesn’t matter anyway. I’ve wasted enough time on this already.
So it has effectively “killed” me out of this discussion.
Bye.
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 4:09 PM
lol
geckomon on January 30, 2008 at 4:10 PM
Oh, I dunno…I’m tired, dejected and annoyed today. Grasping at straws. I’ll get over it and quit trying to snark McVain for a while. Ooops, did it again- my inner bitter bart is hard to squelch!
NTWR on January 30, 2008 at 4:12 PM
The POTUS is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re going to get.
myamphibian on January 30, 2008 at 4:13 PM
In the practical art of war, you must be prepared to fight at any time in the future. In the impractical art of war, you should have been prepared quite some time ago, and it’s probably already too late. You’re screwed.
- Sun Tzu’s Nephew
MB4 on January 30, 2008 at 4:13 PM
It was blatanly obvious it wasn’t your comment; obvious to everyone but Mcguyver. I don’t recall anyone coming to his defense. Not one.
geckomon on January 30, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Well AP, I’m sure sorry for confusion, regarding the “impostor”.
It sure as hell isn’t going to happen again on my blogs. I’ve put all new comments under moderation just in case another such impostor wants to cause trouble.
I would decimate whoever that “impostor” is, if it was me.
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 4:16 PM
False alarm..Sorry. Sean was just proving a point, he sure had me fooled!
kcd on January 30, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Jummy,
You really need to take a deep breath and understand that McCain is not universally loved because of his lack of loyalty to the party and conservative values. Romney may not have been my first choice but in a two way race he sure the Hell is getting my support of Juan “Quisling” McCain.
highhopes on January 30, 2008 at 4:26 PM
I can also verify that the IPs don’t match. But I can’t be bothered to think of a clever substitute number.
Tanya on January 30, 2008 at 4:31 PM
A little off topic; Hannity just pulled a huge mind &%#@ on his listeners. For the entire first hour of his show he backed McCain, explained away his faults and admitted how he was wrong and too hard on him. In the end he admitted that he did it for the Lulz and people were flipping out. It was one of his better shows in a while.
liquidflorian on January 30, 2008 at 4:33 PM
McCain on Border Security (current position) I have always believed that our border must be secure and that the federal government has utterly failed in its responsibility to ensure that it is secure. If we have learned anything from the recent immigration debate, it is that Americans have little trust that their government will honor a pledge to do the things necessary to make the border secure.
myamphibian on January 30, 2008 at 4:45 PM
If it is what I believe it is, I believe any two octets (the first two would suffice; it wouldn’t even give the owner of that block) would do.
steveegg on January 30, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Rush is evidently operating with half his brain tied behind his back again. He can do that, ‘cuz he’s Rush, but it gets a little frustrating for the rest of us.
He does have half a point: it is a good thing that people have to claim to be conservatives, even when they’re not in the sense that hypocrisy is the tribute that virture pays to vice. But it is definitely not a good thing that a plurality of Republicans believe the lie. Or, even worse, that they don’t believe it and don’t care.
Would Rush (or anyone here who thinks he is on target with this) think it was a good thing if Hilary could win by claiming to be conservative? And if you think that would never happen, remember her early support for the war in Iraq?
Tanya: For a clever IP address try 48.151.62.342. Last digit is too big, but then so was Slublog’s.
JackOfClubs on January 30, 2008 at 4:54 PM
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