Newt Gingrich and Sean Hannity weigh their McCain options

posted at 5:36 pm on January 30, 2008 by Bryan

Contrary to rumors spawned by a show-opening satire, Sean Hannity and Newt Gingrich haven’t learned to speak RINO overnight. They didn’t come out for “modernizing” the party or any of that. They also didn’t come out for Mitt Romney, though they both pretty much did come out against John McCain, at length and over more than one issue. Gingrich in particular hammers away at McCain for being a potential president who just won’t pay any attention at all to conservative ideals.

Rep. Tom Tancredo was on Fox earlier today and made similar points against McCain, though only on immigration. I didn’t catch every word, but from what I heard Tanc sounded like he wouldn’t support McCain as the GOP’s nominee if it comes to that. He’s not the only one.

The question before us, is, is it too late? McCain won South Carolina largely because Fred was still in the race. If Newt’s numbers are right, he won Florida largely because Huckabee is still in the race. McCain has managed the equivalent of an inside straight during the primaries, becoming the front-runner without actually winning the base over to him. He has what amounts to an agent of influence for a foreign government — whoops, make that two agents of influence for a foreign government — working on his campaign. His signature legislation still causes growls among conservatives. Yet McCain is the likely nominee of the conservative party.

Not if Mitt Romney has anything to say about it. Romney, more than any other candidate, sought to make himself acceptable to conservatives over the past couple of years. McCain skipped CPAC; Romney not only spoke at CPAC but at National Review’s 50th anniversary party. Rudy forgot to deal with social conservatives; Romney became one. You can knock him for that and many have, but the fact is Romney looked at the GOP base not as a hostile world but a constituency that he would need. He took a businessman’s approach to a political problem.

Tonight’s debate is make or break. There will be four people on that stage, which is two more than ought to be there: Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee should be locked in the green room, but they won’t be. It will be crowded. Huck won’t go after McCain. Paul will be Paul. Rudy won’t be around to chuckle in the wings. Fred will be refreshing comments over at Ace’s open thread. It will be up to Mitt to take off the gloves and score a real punch directly on McCain’s weak spots.

McCain has several legendarily spacious soft spots. Border security. Economics. Free speech. These are core issues. Take your pick. Mitt can’t stick to stump speech points. He will have to score a direct hit with information that’s new to most viewers in a way that leaves a mark, but not in a mean way lest he get tagged as the bad guy. Romney could even bring up the seething discontent that’s surfaced after Florida as an argument against McCain’s supposed electability. How electable is a guy who has so much trouble with the party’s base? But whichever punches Romney chooses to throw, has to be careful.

It can be done. It won’t be easy. I find myself saying that often these days.


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It’s extremely interesting how the other “conservative” candidates have fallen by the way side.

Mitt Romney rising to a leadership challenge here is our biggest hope at this point.

Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 5:42 PM

Anyone who thinks McCain is strong on national security is delusional – as delusional as someone who locks the front door and leaves the back door wide open, expecting burglars not to enter through the back door. He is that bad.

In a recent year we had over 140,000 OTM’s (other than Mexicans – DHS terminology, not mine), including foreign invaders (my term, and accurate) from all the terror-sponsoring countries (Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Pakistan, etc.), cross our southern border without our permisssion. DHS estimates that it catches 1/4 of illegal border crossers.

McCain has held our border security hostage for over two years, insisting on “amnesty” (his term – my terms are rewards, benefits, and soliciting bribes) in the ‘comprehensive immigration bill’, instead of just passing strict law enforcement measures, as four states have done to date. McCain wants to reward foreign law breakers more than he wants to secure our borders and thus protect his own constituents. That says it all to me – he is NOT strong on national security – he is abyssmal and is therefore totally unqualified on this issue alone.

I am an uncommitted delegate, and I will NEVER vote for McCain.

fred5678 on January 30, 2008 at 5:43 PM

Contrary to rumors spawned by a show-opening satire, Sean Hannity and Newt Gingrich haven’t learned to speak RINO overnight. They didn’t come out for “modernizing” the party or any of that.

You got me Sean.

Hook, line, and freakin’ sinker.

Hawkins1701 on January 30, 2008 at 5:43 PM

I saw Tanc. He looked good and definitely did not like all that money, possibly billions of the package, going directly to Mexico thru the illegals in the U.S. —– He also wood not back Juan or Willard, but said he would instead write himself in on the ballot. Ha, ha! He seemed very displeased, to say the least, about Juan getting so many votes and leading towards getting the nom.

countywolf on January 30, 2008 at 5:45 PM

If Newt’s numbers are right, he won Florida largely because Huckabee is still in the race.

Well, that’s one way of looking at it. Here’s another: McCain won Florida because he received overwhelming support from Hispanic Republicans.

paul006 on January 30, 2008 at 5:45 PM

Make your vote count. If McCain wins the primary, everyone conservative should write in MICKEY MOUSE. Evangelicals, that means you too. McCain is no different than Billary.

It’d be funny if he got more votes. Better than voting for Daffy McCain Duck!

mksmithwriter on January 30, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Mitt Romney is courting conservatives.

John McCain is taking conservatives to court.

EJDolbow on January 30, 2008 at 5:49 PM

mksmithwriter on January 30, 2008 at 5:49 PM

You are TOTALLY ON TO SOMETHING!!

How about we write in Juan McAmnesty???

EJDolbow on January 30, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Don’t fool yourself into thinking that Mitt doesn’t have any weaknesses to be attacked on tonight either. More importantly, let’s not pretend that these debates have much influence in swinging votes- they don’t.

Mitt’s best strategy is to hope McCain keels over from a heart attack during the debate. Otherwise it’s probably over for him.

As someone who dislikes McCain, I say that for your own good- the sooner you accept it, the easier it’ll be. Well, also it’s nice revenge on the Romniac Attack Poodles who spent most of 2007 talking smack about Teh Fred.

Hollowpoint on January 30, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Don’t fool yourself into thinking that Mitt doesn’t have any weaknesses to be attacked on tonight either. More importantly, let’s not pretend that these debates have much influence in swinging votes- they don’t.

The man has been attacked non-stop for over a year.

EJDolbow on January 30, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Romney, more than any other candidate, sought to make himself acceptable to conservatives over the past couple of years.

The only interesting point that I have ever heard came from a caller concerning Mitt Romney, I think it could have been on Cavuto’s show (might have been C-Span). The caller essentially said that Romney’s flip flopping was good. They said ‘at least he listens to other people and isn’t so stuck in his views.’

THAT I thought was the most persuasive argument FOR Romney. However, that would mean he would have to embrace his flip flops as a good thing that he was responding to the people.

How about it HotAirers? Is flip flopping good? That’s the only argument Romney has right now. . . is he daring enough to make it?

ThackerAgency on January 30, 2008 at 5:53 PM

How electable is a guy who has so much trouble with the party’s base?

How electable is the guy who has so much trouble with the guy who has so much trouble with the party’s base? This is the pertinent question. It’s not that McCain is great, it’s who’s much better? Mitt? Ok maybe a little.. but boy this is a circus.

Dash on January 30, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Both Newt and Sean will support McCain if he is the Republican nominee. They will huff and puff and want their views listened to, but they will support the nominee.

Sean actually said he would change his registration to “conservative” after the primary today. Well if he does that, doesn’t that make him a hated RINO?

Then he gave a litany of what he, Sean, supports, and I saw nothing in his litany that McCain doesn’t also support.

bnelson44 on January 30, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Fred will be refreshing comments over at Ace’s open thread.

Well, yeah. You expect him to comment here after you single-handedly torpedoed his campaign, Allah?

(No, I’m not trying to stir the pot. Honest!)

Jack M. on January 30, 2008 at 5:56 PM

If Newt’s numbers are right, he won Florida largely because Huckabee is still in the race.

According to Rasmussen, Newt’s numbers are wrong. The Florida pre-election poll showed that Huckabee supporters were much more likely to view McCain as favorable than they were Romney- it was something like 82% to 56%.

Hollowpoint on January 30, 2008 at 5:58 PM

I hopeful Mitt scores some “Fred against Huck” (like in the SC debate) type punches on McCain.

Exit question? How does Rudy support McCain after making an issue out of the NYT endorsement for McCain in the Florida debate? Plot to destroy Conservatism?

azcop on January 30, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Will Mitt be at CPAC this year?

ctmom on January 30, 2008 at 6:01 PM

It will be up to Mitt to take off the gloves and score a real punch directly on McCain’s weak spots.

And what does he have to lose? I say Mitt should bust McLiar right in the chops and let the chips fall where they may.

csdeven on January 30, 2008 at 6:03 PM

“How electable is a guy who has so much trouble with the party’s base?”

How electable is a guy who has trashed every one of his Republican opponents in the race dishonestly and who panders to whatever group he speaks to?

How electable is the guy who has…through his negativity…brought us to very probable McCain nominee?

How credible are the “conservative” pundits and bloggers who throw every conservative proinciple out the window to support Flip Romney.

How electable is a guy so untrustworthy as the ONE Republican who claims to be a conservative but signed legislation that enabled tax-payers to fund abortions in his state?

How electable is a guy who actually donated his own money to planned parenthood?

How credible are pundits and bloggers, who, through their unfair and dishonest trashing of the ONLY conservative in the race, Mike Huckabee, has brought us to the brink of a McCain nomination?

Allah, Michelle…you WILL both carry the burden of a McCain nomination on your own shoulders…but you’ll be helped with that burden by Rush, Beck, and at least a dozen other pundits, bloggers, and entertainers.

Great going guys.

Behold the results of your misguided efforts – McCAin as the GOP nominee.

God help the GOP!

God have mercy on you big-headed, meddling bloggers, talk-show hosts and television commentators.

There’ll be no use in “modernizing” the party now…you guys have destroyed it.

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Great post, Bryan. I think that one of the ways that it can be done is for Huck voters to abandon their candidate in the same way that Edward’s did. Meaning Edward voters realize that they were going to win, and in a big labor state like Nevada, he only pulled 4% I think.

Can that happen? Yeah, but that up to the individual voter. It probably wouldn’t happen for the pro-life Huck vote, but it might for the conservative or anti-ill-imm Huck vote.

Spirit of 1776 on January 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM

The man has been attacked non-stop for over a year.

EJDolbow on January 30, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Yes, and I find it a bit ironic that the voting public is congratulating itself on lack of prejudice where Obama is concerned, but a strong segment seems unable to overcome Mitt’s Mormonism. Got a few of the more rabid ones on this site, in fact.

a capella on January 30, 2008 at 6:06 PM

You’d think I’m pregnant with all the contraction problems I’m having today. “realize that they were” should be “weren’t”

Spirit of 1776 on January 30, 2008 at 6:07 PM

If Newt’s numbers are right, he won Florida largely because Huckabee is still in the race. McCain has managed the equivalent of an inside straight during the primaries, becoming the front-runner without actually winning the base over to him.

Meet the new base, not quite the same as the old base. Is the conservative core of the Republican party, represented by so many in the blogosphere and talk radio, becoming the fringe? Or maybe always was the fringe? Huckabee was stealing core conservative votes from Romney? Huckabee? Ok, maybe – it’s been a surreal nomination process. Conservative stalwarts like Tancredo, Hunter, and Thompson (well, perceived conservative stalwarts) were the first to go, leaving a bona fide centrist, a religious populist, and a right-leaning pragmatist. What a ride.

RightOFLeft on January 30, 2008 at 6:08 PM

There’ll be no use in “modernizing” the party now…you guys have destroyed it.

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Say, I see the Huckster is now passing the collection plate in church sanctuaries. That O.K. with you? I wonder if his sleaze and antiMormon bias isn’t one reason people dislike him.

a capella on January 30, 2008 at 6:09 PM

“…a hated RINO”

You folks have now swept yourself off to the fringe of American opinion. The despised…but not hated…fringe.

AP, are you proud of what Hot-Air has become in the past month or so?

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:09 PM

Fred will be refreshing comments over at Ace’s open thread.

Ah, come on. You mean he can’t do two live-threads? (Or shouldn’t I have said that?)

Seriously, that’s the first time I laughed all day. Thanks, Bryan.

steveegg on January 30, 2008 at 6:10 PM

How credible are pundits and bloggers, who, through their unfair and dishonest trashing of the ONLY conservative in the race, Mike Huckabee, has brought us to the brink of a McCain nomination?

I just can’t get that video of him pitching for more Arkansan state taxes out of my head. Was that just a spoof?

a capella on January 30, 2008 at 6:14 PM

I fully expect Mitt to hammer McCain tonight…if he doesn’t he’s just not ready to grab the mantle if you ask me. Mind you, I’ll vote for him over McCain any day.

SouthernGent on January 30, 2008 at 6:15 PM

A+ essay Bryan

Resolute on January 30, 2008 at 6:16 PM

You folks have now swept yourself off to the fringe of American opinion. The despised…but not hated…fringe.

AP, are you proud of what Hot-Air has become in the past month or so?

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:09 PM

Instate tuition breaks for illegal alien’s children is now mainstream? Releasing rapists and murderers who have found Jesus, so they can repeat is now mainstream? Who knew?

a capella on January 30, 2008 at 6:19 PM

If Mitt can’t destroy McCain from the right, he certainly can’t defeat a Democrat.

Valiant on January 30, 2008 at 6:20 PM

“Say, I see the Huckster is now passing the collection plate in church sanctuaries. That O.K. with you? I wonder if his sleaze and antiMormon bias isn’t one reason people dislike him.”

Ignorance doesn’t work against me, A-capella.

Was it a political event or a Worship-Service, A? It makes a difference to us common-sense type folks. Or are you on the side of revoking the tax-exempt status of any religious organization that hosts a REPUBLICAN political event now like the Democrats are?

In the same light…was Huckabee’s anti-Mormon remarks made in a religious setting or a political setting? Again…it makes a difference to those who have some sense of justice and fairness about us.

It’s been Romnney’s camp and his supporters who have made such a big deal about the non-story of anti-Mormon bias.

We don’t dislike Mitt because of his religion like many on this blog seem to dislike Huckabee because of HIS religion. We can’t stand Romney because he is an illegitimate conservative who has trashed good Republicans and who is a PROVEN (over and over and over…)flip-flopper on a scale that makes Kerry look like rhe Mutual of Omaha’s logo by comparison.

Quit being dishonest…or idiotic in your comments.

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:20 PM

This thread is owning my web browser for some reason.

Dash on January 30, 2008 at 6:20 PM

As someone who dislikes McCain, I say that for your own good- the sooner you accept it, the easier it’ll be.

Hollowpoint on January 30, 2008 at 5:52 PM

I will never get into the car without putting up a fight!

Deety on January 30, 2008 at 6:23 PM

“I just can’t get that video of him pitching for more Arkansan state taxes out of my head. Was that just a spoof?”

It was necessary under the circumstances…and no longer exists because of the way he planned it out.

That VERY SHORT video CLIP was taken completely out of context.

Ask yourself…”Is it possible that Mike Huckabee’s record is MUCH MORE conservative than Romney’s dishonest attack machine has characterized it as?

I wonder these days if the commenters here honest enough to ask themselves that question and be truthful in their answers to themselves.

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM

I don’t see any reason to take a gaseous lecture from someone who can’t read a byline.

Bryan on January 30, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Quit being dishonest…or idiotic in your comments.

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:20 PM

You don’t sound like you’ve been born again to me. Sound like a wild eyed fringer way out of the mainstream, passing out hand written screeds on street corners. Probably also need a haircut.

a capella on January 30, 2008 at 6:25 PM

…”Is it possible that Mike Huckabee’s record is MUCH MORE conservative than Romney’s dishonest attack machine has characterized it as?
Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Not according to Club for Growth!

azcop on January 30, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Allah, Michelle…you WILL both carry the burden of a McCain nomination on your own shoulders…but you’ll be helped with that burden by Rush, Beck, and at least a dozen other pundits, bloggers, and entertainers.

Great going guys. Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Yeah, and if it wasn’t for those pesky kids we’d have got away with it, too!! /sarcasm

Well, unfortunately, no amount of belly fire or 9/12 smarts would have given us a different outcome here, it is what it is. You certainly can’t blame conservatives for wanting to back one of their own! I wonder who you believe IS the answer?

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Ah, never mind. Huckabee? Geez, I expected you to say Ron Paul, not Huckabee.

Well, no matter, the country was NOT going to elect a “baptist” minister as POTUS, ya know, I don’t care how liberal or conservative you think Huckabee is…

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 6:28 PM

“Not according to Club for Growth!”

Oh…you mean the organization that made Bush’s campaign in ’04 MUCH tougher because they were able to eliminate the push-vover Democrat candidate, Howard Dean, from the Democrat race for the nomination?

You mean the organization that meddled in Pennsylvania’s primaries and was at least partly responsible for the DEMS owning Congress right now?

The Club for Growth is a one-issue attack-dog that has harmed the GOP waaaAAAY more than it has helped it.

Wake-up.

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:29 PM

Wasn’t is Huckabee who campaigned for Democrats over Republicans in his home state when serving…….Did Romney do that????

azcop on January 30, 2008 at 6:29 PM

I will never get into the car without putting up a fight!

Deety on January 30, 2008 at 6:23 PM

Fight all you want. Vote as you see fit. However, nothing you, I, Bryan, AP or even Michelle says or does at this point changes the fact that Romney is very much a longshot.

Hollowpoint on January 30, 2008 at 6:30 PM

I don’t see any reason to take a gaseous lecture from someone who can’t read a byline.

Bryan on January 30, 2008 at 6:25 PM

LOL, Bryan!

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 6:31 PM

“You certainly can’t blame conservatives for wanting to back one of their own!”

I can and WILL blame “conservatives” who have been dishonest about good Republicans and who have unquestionably been backing Flip-Romney for months.

Talk about hypocrisy!

I AM a conservative who WANTS VERY BADLY to back one of my own And i WILL back one of my own Tuesday when I vote “Mike Huckabee” on my Arkansas presidential primary ballot!

You guys may be backing a conservative if you back Romney.

But do you really know? Do you?

Honest answer: “NO!”

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:34 PM

Did Romney do that????

azcop on January 30, 2008 at 6:29 PM

No, sir, he did not. What he DID do was tell some fat cat terrorist that he could find his own damn security if he was going to speak at a college in his state! This, I remember with fondness, and it’s when I first heard the name Romney.

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 6:34 PM

“Well, no matter, the country was NOT going to elect a “baptist” minister as POTUS, ya know, I don’t care how liberal or conservative you think Huckabee is…”

There you go bringing religion into the conversation.

Just goes to prove a point.

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:35 PM

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:34 PM

No, but what I DO know is that Romney, once elected, will serve “The People” he was elected to serve, so this baiting of us with “flip flopper” makes you no better than the dems.

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 6:35 PM

God help the GOP!

God have mercy on you big-headed, meddling bloggers, talk-show hosts and television commentators.

There’ll be no use in “modernizing” the party now…you guys have destroyed it.

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Hey there hillbilly for the (s)huckster – G-d will show no mercy, after all we’ve let Huckabee in.

Onager on January 30, 2008 at 6:36 PM

“Wasn’t is Huckabee who campaigned for Democrats over Republicans in his home state when serving…”

I know the man he supported. He was a GOOD and DECENT man…and a conservative!

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:37 PM

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:35 PM

ALL CAPS make you sound like a nut. Lay off dude.

Bryan on January 30, 2008 at 6:38 PM

IF McCain becomes the GOP nominee (something I hope to never see) I would NOT vote for him unless:

1. He prepared a list of SCOTUS nominees from whom he would PROMISE to appoint. ACTUAL NAMES. Names that we can confirm are TRULY STRICT CONSTRUCTIONIST.

2. Recinds his position on torture and GITMO. Pouring water down the nose of a suspected terrorist in hopes of saving American lives DON’T BOTHER ME A BIT. And to say that would ‘make us like them’ is stupid. THEY cut folk’s heads off.

3. Guarantee that we would COMPLETE A PHYSICAL BARRIER FENCE the ENTIRE Mexico border. None of this ‘virtual fence’ sh*t. And PROMISE NEVER TO REWARD ILLEGALS WITH AMNESTY ( and a small fine in return for citizenship- IS AMNESTY!)

Unusual request?! Absolutely- but necessary.

Ex-tex on January 30, 2008 at 6:38 PM

Just goes to prove a point.

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:35 PM

Ummmm, I don’t know how else to say this, but “D’uh!”

No kidding, some people in America may find it disturbing to vote for a minister, regardless of his religion. I hate to break it to ya, but during Kennedy’s run for POTUS, they actually wanted to use his catholicism against him! Absurd? Yes, in light of how stupid it may seem, but there it is. And that was just a short 50 yrs ago.

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 6:39 PM

SECOND LOOK: AT BROKERED CONVENTION!

SECOND LOOK: AT FRED THOMPSON!

Sultry Beauty on January 30, 2008 at 6:40 PM

GOOD and DECENT man…and a conservative!

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:37 PM

Said the Wolf is Sheeps clothing to the Sheperd.

azcop on January 30, 2008 at 6:41 PM

FRED THOMPSON!

Sultry Beauty on January 30, 2008 at 6:40 PM

*sigh*

I know.

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 6:41 PM

Ex-tex on January 30, 2008 at 6:38 PM

I agree. Sad, isn’t it? We don’t ask for much. And we’d be so much more willing with just that little itty bitty glimmer of hope.

*sigh*

Ain’t gonna happen. He’s gonna give us all the big F-U the second he gets sworn in… I can almost hear that nasty little laugh of his… *shudder* Make it go away now, please.

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 6:44 PM

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 6:44 PM

Yup.

Ex-tex on January 30, 2008 at 6:48 PM

Face it Fred had no chance, he just didn’t have the votes

KBird on January 30, 2008 at 6:49 PM

Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee should be locked in the green room, but they won’t be.

Hi, Bryan. Nice post, but I disagree. Huckabee’s got my vote if he makes it to my state. I’m tired of the media trying to whittle this primary season down as quickly as possible.

Fred was my guy but he’s gone. Huckabee is far from perfect and one of your great posts from about a month ago made me think seriously of forgetting about him. It was the post referring to the Southern Baptist schism about a decade ago. I’m very conservative as to my Christian faith and your post affected me.

But Fred is gone and as much as I don’t like much of what has been reported on Huckabee for the past couple of months, he’s solid on two of the most important issues for me. Abortion and gay marriage.

Whatever happens with Romney and McCain will happen. It’s not like there’s a great choice between the two anyway.

Skidd on January 30, 2008 at 6:50 PM

Wait, won’t McCain have “Da Base” if he wins the nomination? Isn’t the base those people who will vote R no matter what? If they then choose not to vote for their candidate then it’s a matter of turnout. If McCain is the eventual nominee then he will define the party’s platform. We might just have to get used to some of it, like amnesty. Republicans can possibly be the party to bring the illegals into the system as citizen taxpayers.

Is the real problem that there is now a new Mainstream Media that consists of Rush, Hannity, et al who have ideals opposite those of McCain, Ahnuld, etc.? This nomination is a fight over orthodoxy. If McCain wins, he will be able to reform the current orthodoxy. I for one welcome the new Party Overlord.

Viscount_Bolingbroke on January 30, 2008 at 6:52 PM

McCain’s idea for a bumper sticker:

YOU CAN’T DO IT, MY FRIENDS

fred5678 on January 30, 2008 at 6:53 PM

Well, also it’s nice revenge on the Romniac Attack Poodles who spent most of 2007 talking smack about Teh Fred.

Hollowpoint on January 30, 2008 at 5:52 PM

Really? Like what? People were frustrated that he was running a terrible campaign, but for the most part there were no “attack poodles” going after him and the criticism was limited to CFR. I wish the same thing could be said for the people who treated Mitt like chum in the water.

I will say once again that I’ve had it up to here with Fred Heads (not Fred supporters).

How electable is a guy so untrustworthy as the ONE Republican who claims to be a conservative but signed legislation that enabled tax-payers to fund abortions in his state?

Al-Ozarka on January 30, 2008 at 6:05 PM

That was the law of the land. He had no choice in the matter. Do try to get your facts straight and not rely on cutting and pasting from Huckabee support groups.

Buy Danish on January 30, 2008 at 7:01 PM

I forget where I read this, but someone said that McCain cares about the pro-life movement about as much as Bill Clinton cares about his wedding vows!

Califemme on January 30, 2008 at 7:04 PM

McVain has only 34 more delegates (93 total) than Romney (59 total), and both need 1181 to win.

Keep fighting against McShamnesty!

Ignore the MSM spin-meisters and shills and stalking horses and pimps.

profitsbeard on January 30, 2008 at 7:16 PM

The fix is in. Hucabee has cut his deal with McCainesty and is staying in only to suck votes from Romney. Watch the debate tonight and you’ll see McCain and Huckabee team up on romney. Huckabee won’t have a negative word about McCain.

This has been orchestrated by the RNC establishment and it makes me sick to my stomach. I hope that the conservatives in the remaining primary states will vote for Romney and note throw their votes away on Huckabee. A vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain.

orlandocajun on January 30, 2008 at 7:43 PM

I’m tired of the hand wringing from the base celebrities.

They are all appalled that McCain could be the nominee but are yet not sufficiently outraged enough to actually endorse the last remaining plausible conservative, Romney, and act to help him win.

None want to take some responsibility and get out of the stands and actually endorse him. Although a few have. They want to just blast McCain and his inevitableness and lament the long odds of Romney and how flawed he is too.

Leads me to believe they actually want McCain to be the nominee and perhaps lose.

If McCain loses then he’s had his shot like Dole did and we can ignore McCain in 2012. But are they prepared for potentially two terms of McCain?

Sebastian on January 30, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Ok – I am new participant here, but I have been reading for a while and I decided to say something tonight.

A capella you made a lot of assumptions in your statement, many of which were far worse then what Al-Ozarka said in the first place. Being born again does not turn one into a wimp who must think that everyone’s ideas are honest and valid. In addition you got personal, which at least the comment you quoted was not.

Also as to Huckabee and Romney for that matter (and let me just say I have not really decided who I like at this point) I think that Al-Ozarka has a point that what many people on this blog have a problem with is the religion. But they will not just come out and say that, they would rather come up with a list of more acceptable things to criticize, even if the criticism is only true if viewed within certain parameters.
Finally I think that it is interesting that this topic came up on this particular thread since it really has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Govgirl on January 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM

For much of 2007 Newt would appear on one of Sean’s shows and tease that he was going to throw his hat into the ring. Since Newt decided that he couldn’t unite the conservative base, maybe his prescriptions aren’t the winning formula.

dedalus on January 30, 2008 at 8:26 PM

All your base are not belong to McCain.

Tzetzes on January 31, 2008 at 7:18 AM