Medved: Rush is acting like a liberal
posted at 10:35 pm on January 30, 2008 by Allahpundit
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In which conservatives are condescended to exquisitely for caring about immigration (and campaign finance reform and waterboarding and pandering gestures towards lowest-common-denominator economic populism and, and, and) even though the Reagan coalition didn’t. Note to Medved: Being a tinge upset at Captain Amnesty for employing cringing bottom-feeders like Juan Hernandez isn’t a hallmark of liberalish irrationality. One can grit one’s teeth and support McCain over a Democrat to win the war, as I do, while also recognizing that he’s not only terrible on various issues important to the right but a royal jackass to boot, a fact proved repeatedly tonight by his knocking Romney unfairly first during the exchange over timetables and then again and again with little digs denigrating his distinguished private-sector career. Watch this clip and tell me, how is this guy any more or less than the Hugh Hewitt to McCain’s Romney?
Update: “Unlike Romney, McCain has built his political fortune on kicking people right of center in the teeth. Neither he nor Simon should be surprised when conservatives, libertarians and classic liberals fail to swoon at McCain’s success to date. Indeed, someone who thinks that is going to happen quickly is probably more deserving of being diagnosed with a ‘derangement syndrome.’”
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LevStrauss on January 30, 2008 at 10:36 PM
The funny thing is going to be watching the Talk Radio Establishment do a 180 by November. Many people are fuming but they will be foaming at the mouth for McCain once the propaganda starts flowing. Of course everyone’s feelings and reactions right now will go down the memory hole by then.
LevStrauss on January 30, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Dude !
The gaydar hit the lower end of the red zone with that mustache.
BowHuntingTexas on January 30, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Discussing this ass-clown is a waste of keystrokes.
Dorvillian on January 30, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Hewitt’s smart (I’m still impressed by his genius as-good-as-anyone-could-have spin on Miers, ie that she was an “article II” judge for the GWOT). Medved’s and idiot.
Alex K on January 30, 2008 at 10:41 PM
I like Medved, but who is he fooling acting like he is something other than a Rockafeller Republican. The guy is definitely on the left side of the GOP.
That being said, the guy is one intelligent man…Just one hundred percent wrong about Rush and McCain.
Tim Burton on January 30, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Yes, Mike, the guy that almost singlehandedly created the nationwide market for conservative talk radio–without which you’d be limited to some tiny radio station out in East Bumblef%$#–needs lectures on liberalism from you.
ReubenJCogburn on January 30, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Of course, there are issues that an issue Medved. Good call, he is McCain’s Hugh.
Spirit of 1776 on January 30, 2008 at 10:43 PM
When did so many posters on on HotAir turn into Hugh Hewitt Borgs?
JayHaw Phrenzie on January 30, 2008 at 10:43 PM
When did Medved become a Republican?
I think it was in the last few years because I remember him being a flaming liberal Democrat.
Medved, McCain and the other libral Republicans are trying to render the conservative wing of this party useless.
EJDolbow on January 30, 2008 at 10:45 PM
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Chakra Hammer on January 30, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I have it figured out.
I am like the Biggest Fan of Medved there is but this McCain thing has been bugging me to the point I stopped my internet account with him.
He is A GOP Man. Anything Republican is ok by him.
He was for the amnesty bill and didn’t seem to have a problem with the gang of 14 thing. so that is thats all hes got GOP running in his blood. and thats SAD…
I want my old Medved back.
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 30, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Exactly.
This guy is a total shill for McCain: no note about the fact that McCain has been letting down the GOP side throughout his senate career. For instance, he likes pointing out how the Gang of 14 actually enabled judges to be confirmed. However, it conveniently ignores the fact that the Gang of 14 came up exactly when the badly named ‘nuclear option’ was being considered (shows what passes for extremism in the senate), and put the kabash on the GOP forcing Dems to allow members out of committee.
If McCain does go on to be the nominee, I do hope that he and Medved get walloped come November. And expect it to happen - most Conservatives didn’t turn out in 1996 when Dole was the nominee, and Dole was a lot less compromised than McCain.
infidelpride on January 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM
I laugh at Hewitt all the time–he’s a shill, he’s wrong on a lot of stuff, he comes up with crazy arguments–but he’s smart. Medved’s a cretin. Anyway, we’re down to Romney and McCain. Hewitt’s guy is preferable by default at this point. Sometimes just because Hewitt shills for something doesnt make it wrong.
Alex K on January 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Is this any worse then Rush saying that Newt Gingrich and Pat Buchanan are not conservatives? Just wondering.
Complete7 on January 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Wasn’t Medved on some show on PBS way back when? PBS…enough said.
SouthernGent on January 30, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Medved is embarrassing himself by claiming that McCain “has been winning among conservatives” which he clearly has not been. Even his strong win in Florida came on the strength of Democrats and Independents who voted in the GOP primary. But, really this is just a glass is half full argument.
Jaibones on January 30, 2008 at 10:48 PM
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Chakra Hammer on January 30, 2008 at 10:48 PM
I don’t know Medved, I don’t think I’ve ever listened to his show, but he may be dumb as a stump. But re:PBS so did Hewitt and so did Tucker.
Spirit of 1776 on January 30, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Allah, forget the iPhone, save up $100,000 and you can get a Jetpack!
Awesome!! :)
Chakra Hammer on January 30, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Are there conservative talk radio hosts that actually revere President Bush?
I mean really? That’s kind of a strong word. Is not suffering from BDS now the same as revering the President?
apollyonbob on January 30, 2008 at 10:51 PM
I haven’t been able to listen to the Savage Nation lately. Has the fine Doctor endorsed a candidate yet?
BowHuntingTexas on January 30, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Rush is long past his prime and is trying to stay relevant. Bill Bennett is soooo much better to listen to. But then, he’s an intellectual and Rush is an entertainer, so what should you expect?
huckfan on January 30, 2008 at 10:51 PM
medved is correct, you people are deranged, and i found this altogether inexplicable…
laura ingraham?
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Limbaugh and Hannity still revere Bush. They love him. That’s a major reason we got where we are. Like Carlson says in this clip: seven years of mild regret whenever Bush does something liberal combined with abject reverance over a single issue–war–and all of a sudden talk radio is whining about McCain? What the hell’s the difference? He’s right. How were we supposed to stop McCain if the movement leaders spent seven years on a single issue, the one issue they approve of McCain on?
Alex K on January 30, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Medved, McCain, Jetpackboy. What to do?
One click and *poof*, you can jettison Jetpackboy.
CliffHanger on January 30, 2008 at 10:55 PM
durk ur jerbs!!!!
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Bummer. I just bought an old Medved book. Maybe I should send it back.
Nah. The book looks interesting.
TX Mom on January 30, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Re the update: Blistering. And the comments are a screech.
Perfect opportunity to remind the Hot Air community to click on the ads you see on the side of this blog. You belong to this community and one of your civic duties is to check out the fine folks who advertise here.
RushBaby on January 30, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Medved is brilliant. but he is very misguided on this. other than what I stated above I dont know whats wrong with him.
Keep the Book he is very smart and a good author.
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 30, 2008 at 11:00 PM
a jetpack is cooler than a “humping robot” :rolls eyes: :)
Chakra Hammer on January 30, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Wow, I’m really loving the hate between the “Medved sucks” crowd and the “Hugh is a shill” crowd. With this kind of animosity amongst republicans the likelihood of President Obama seems a lot more certain.
Can’t we agree that if our favorite guy doesn’t get elected, our second choice is OK?
redshirt on January 30, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Whats with the Thread Hijack dude?
Yes, Yes Jetpacks are cool. Cripes.
CHILL!
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 30, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Well yeah the Talk Radio Establishment dug their own grave on this one. Both Bush and McCain supported amnesty, Bush signs McCain-Feingold, both have their Federal pet projects, both have no idea what Federalism is, and McCain is more conservative than Bush, but who said today’s Republicans are consistent on anything. All you have to do is go back to the 90s to figure that out.
LevStrauss on January 30, 2008 at 11:06 PM
hey, romney is my second choice. the second choice for the mds sufferers is to abandon the party. i believe an exact quote from last night’s mds fevers was “BURN ALL MCCAIN SUPPORTERS AT THE STAKE”.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 11:06 PM
New around here?
RushBaby on January 30, 2008 at 11:06 PM
I need more Jetpack Spam!
Dorvillian on January 30, 2008 at 11:07 PM
One more off-topic comment and you’re banned, Chakra.
Allahpundit on January 30, 2008 at 11:07 PM
geez.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Theres Second Choices and Third choices, and then theres vindictive, mean, nasty, and downright ornry little balls of crap that linger off yer rear end. Those I wont vote for …
…and they are nicer than McCain.
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 30, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Like I said on another thread, I think Hot Air is a microcosm of the Republican party, and given the current level of animosity around here, I find that a little disturbing.
And I’m on my second choice, thank you very much. And I’m fine with that. If I have to move to my third choice, I’m going to be less fine, you know?
TX Mom on January 30, 2008 at 11:11 PM
that was barely convincing.
then ronald “mr. amnesty” would be a liberal by the lights of “real conservatives”.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Anyone that hasn’t listened to Medved’s program is missing out on a fantastic and very conservative show. To have so many of you ridiculing him and calling him names (ass clown, idiot, cretin) simply because he supports a candidate you don’t like is shameful and confirms what I’ve been thinking for some time. It’s become personal and that the nativist branch of the party are are as deranged as the far left of the democrats.
Patrick H on January 30, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Reagan signed an amnesty for a little over a million people at a time when there had been fairly low immigration in years prior. It ended up being an amnesty for closer to three million. McCain wants to amnesty 12-20 million after more than two decades of heavy immigration, and he wants to drastically increase immigration on top of that. In 2006, he tried to defeat any kind of cap for low skilled workers and their families, and he said such a cap was un-American.
Alex K on January 30, 2008 at 11:20 PM
I hear you and understand. I am just getting tired of the rancor and strife among people who should get along, even if they disagree.
If the world were at peace these discussions might have more importance, but I really feel that a democrat win will severely put the US at risk from the threat of jihad. If we can’t come together, we will lose.
redshirt on January 30, 2008 at 11:21 PM
If memory serves, Medved was a movie critic on PBS after Siskel & Ebert became popular and left PBS.
rockdalian on January 30, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Agreed. So you should vote for my candidate! (I kid, I kid. But I really do agree with your point.)
TX Mom on January 30, 2008 at 11:23 PM
My favorite thing to call Medved is “Ned Flanders.”
Alex K on January 30, 2008 at 11:25 PM
No what you don’t understand is that Republicans have been winning on conservative rhetoric for years and giving the opposite. Some of us are sick and tired of being treated like battered wives and will leave those who abuse us. If you are new to conservatism wait about ten to fourteen years and you will understand, but by then it will most likely be too late.
LevStrauss on January 30, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Jummy,
I often do not have the time to read all of HA articles.
So I am not aware of your position on illegal immigration.
What is your view?
ColtsFan on January 30, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I would have happily voted for any of the republican candidates instead of Hillary or Obama. (well, Ron Paul might have given me some problems…)
I’ll vote for whoever promises to put John Bolton in as Sec of State.
redshirt on January 30, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Medved is the one who taught us how to call people names who don’t agree with us. We learned it all from him, you jackass.
Medved is the nativist here…. nativist RINO republican, that is.
Screw all of you.
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 11:30 PM
If McCain wins the nomination and Rush backs him…I drop Rush like a rock. I’ll go back to listenin’ to rock and roll and dance while America as a nation disappears.
mksmithwriter on January 30, 2008 at 11:30 PM
he still reviews cinema and he’s been a conservative activist for thirty years.
he was a liberal more than three decades ago. in college. he writes about it in his book “right turns”.
to contrast, romney was a liberal ten years ago.
but the “real conservatives” are not above clumsy whisper campaigning the likes of, EJDolbow above.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Welcome to the wilderness.
LevStrauss on January 30, 2008 at 11:33 PM
From that interview we can see why Medved’s promoters employ him to promote a small electronics store sale days when he comes through San Antonio.
He is all words and no personality. His presence is not good enough for an actual crowd that wants to see him talk.
What a utterly despicable prick Medved has become!
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 11:35 PM
I stand by my ass-clown statement.
I do listen to the guy a couple times a week, the only time his show is any good is on his “Conspiracy” day.
It’s like a daytime flashback of the old Art Bell show.
Classic.
Dorvillian on January 30, 2008 at 11:37 PM
But calling people “nativist” and “deranged” isn’t personal at all, nor does it involve name-calling. Hypocrite much?
ReubenJCogburn on January 30, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Just now watched the Medved vid *huhHUH,huhHUH, huhha*
I think that guy just torpedoed his own career.
RushBaby on January 30, 2008 at 11:45 PM
You know, the weirdest part about this is that Medved, whose show I like and who I think is great with callers, used to be a full-throttle Huckabacker and then he fell in love and fell in line for McCain.
He’s politically promiscuous.
see-dubya on January 30, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Yep, I agree He was a total ROmney backer when Rudy was in the Lead!
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 30, 2008 at 11:49 PM
1) obcession with illegal immigration has it’s origins with the socialist left and is best left there.
2) long before mainstream conservatives picked up the issue in 2005, it had migrated from the labor/global crisis-mongering left to the worst fringes of third-way nationalism and racialism.
in other words, it’s a cancer of stupidity cooked up by the left and infected upon the center-right by “hidden hand” conspiracy cranks, alex jones types and “white nationalists”.
it’s an embarassment. a stain. and it only became one of the conservative movement’s “most deeply held principles” in 2005 when the overabundance of ignorant hannitybots in the conservative movement got bored with thinking about the war.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Fine then you can lobby for me to get the $15,000 back I paid the goverment for legal immigration. In fact you can Take back my wifes Citizenship and just give her a Z visa if I can get those 6 years and $15,000 dollars back ….a$$
/sarc off
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 30, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Career?
He doesn’t have a career as in the standard business model of Rush Limbaugh, et al.
What he does have is a program subsidized by Salem Communications (the syndications company) wherein they pay the individual little radio stations, such as the one here in San Antonio to carry his program.
That differs with Rush’s et al, wherein the Radio stations have to pay Rush a “confiscatory profit” for the permission to air his program.
Just remember that when you listen to Medved.. he can say whatever he wants to, because he doesn’t have to compete for an audience, since he’s not paid by sponsors, who, profit from any number of listeners.
That explains a lot. Medved is a noise machine.. pure and simple.
Mcguyver on January 30, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Thank you for your response.
I was unaware of that article which you cited.
Personally, I am kinda interested in the illegal immigration due to my place of employment.
One more question, would you describe yourself as a thoroughly-going libertarian (Not Ron Paul type—rather the economic libertarian type) who advocates open borders?
ColtsFan on January 30, 2008 at 11:58 PM
why do you like that? that’s the day he swats down all of the “north american union” nonsence “mainstream” nutbags like lou dobbs, laura ingraham and jerome corsi spew.
he spent a week or so defending huck from hewwitt’s cynical, “huck attacked mormonism” meme.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Lev,
I full well realize how we’ve won in the past, but losing elections when SCOTUS nominations are coming up is not way to continue to set the agenda and advance conservatism. The only way to stop liberalism is where it began - in the courts, and McCain (no he wasn’t in my first 2 choices and I contributed to Fred) will do better than Hillary or Obama and for that matter Reagan. If you want to throw that away and let the left put two more baby killing America haters on the court, have at it. But don’t think you accomplished something good in doing so.
Patrick H on January 31, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Medved’s always been more of a populist, basing his rhetoric off the liberal economic tendencies of some social conservatives. I’m not a fan.
joewm315 on January 31, 2008 at 12:05 AM
After all these years of hatin’ on McCain, Rush will have ZERO credibility if he ends up backing the guy.
Now, if Rush says he’ll vote for the Republican candidate–even though that’s McCain–just to vote against the Dem, that’s different. He’d still able to hold McCain’s feet to the fire later if he’s elected. It’s not like Rush would be carrying McCain’s water or actively campaigning for him if he makes it really clear that he’s only voting for McCain to try to hold back the tide of socialism, but continues to be harshly critical of McCain’s anti-conservative rhetoric and actions. That could be interpreted as pragmatism rather than hypocrisy.
aero on January 31, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Nativist and deranged is as nativist and derange does. I’ve been reading this blog since it began and while I agree with most of you on most of the issues and consider myself as truly conservative as anyone here, I wouldn’t vote Dem or sit out an election because a candidate disagreed with me in those areas where I don’t agree with others - like immigration. Winning elections is never a bad thing.
Patrick H on January 31, 2008 at 12:09 AM
thanks for not flaming me in response.
i don’t have an ideological thing for or against border and immigration enforcement. i’m not, for instance, a “products and services must flow freely accross borders” libertarian. and i think it’s been made clear as the spotlight has shone hard on the paleo-right that libertarians bring their own clown car of pet obcessions with them to the table as well.
i’d call myself a madisonian republican. my main beef with the border and immigration enforcement zealotry is the zealotry. the sloppy disproportion of the passions spraying out from it. apart from the pet hatreds some obvious haters come into it with, i think the passions flinging around within the “movement” are sticky and wet and hot enough to infect rational people who come to it with rational concerns with its irrationality.
jummy on January 31, 2008 at 12:09 AM
medved’s about as opposite of an economic populist as you can get before becoming ron paul.
jummy on January 31, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Wow, I used to like Medved a lot but I have lost so much respect for him over this McCain issue. I mean, strong on security; economics — what the hell is he smoking?!!
PolitiNOOB on January 31, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Pet issues eh? I suppose the 3 relatives and 2 friends that have been trying to immigrate legally for 7 years to this country could be called my “Pets” but what should I call the folks who come across the border in my state without regard to to the same laws i try to follow but find incredibly unjust? hmmm “Pets” doesnt seem to fit…
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 31, 2008 at 12:15 AM
I too strongly disagree with the “white nationalist” line of thinking too. I oppose them at every turn.
My question is, is it not a
logical fallacy to judge the validity/invalidity of a position due to the historical fact that a Socialist may have established some groups, like CIS?
Does the historical origins of the founding of CIS by a socialist thereby entail that every thing else said by CIS subsequent is therefore to be rejected a priori?
ColtsFan on January 31, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Jummy,
Thank you for your response. I should have hit “refresh” sooner.
I understand where you are coming from. Thanks again for the discussion.
ColtsFan on January 31, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Medved, whom I like to call the ‘RINO of the Radio’ believes in bigfoot so I’m not that keen on his intellect. Medved pushed for the McCain amnesty bill like it was the solution to all the worlds problems. He is still in denial that it was amnesty. I’ve been listening to him for a few years now but I can’t take him anymore. He is a raging RINO ass and I can’t stand listening to him put down coservatives any more.
Bikerken on January 31, 2008 at 12:23 AM
Then why is he defending John “soak the corporations” McCain?
joewm315 on January 31, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Jummy–
I hear you on this too and I’m a latecomer to border security myself for some of the reasons you mention. There are some ugly and strident isolationists who happen to agree with me on this issue. BUT the zealotry, I would suggest, works both ways and the condescension and trumped up charges of racism left me equally as contemptuous of the open-borders Juan Hernandez types.
I just think that in a post-2001 world we need to take a realistic look at closing the incredible security gap in our borders as well as our visa system. I’m willing to listen to principled arguments about new ways to ensure that security, but most of them (eg the virtual fence) leave me cold.
The social change and drain on social services arguments are important, too, but the security was really what brought me around from a WSJ true-believer who thought “hey, you can’t go wrong with free trade in goods and labor” to where I am now.
Okay, enough hand-holding. Back to vituperation and name calling! Medved–can you believe that guy?
see-dubya on January 31, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Rush is going to hang the Supreme Court Justices over our head when he has to crawl back to McCain with his tail between his legs. The same thing they did in 2004. Just like Pat H just did. It will be a gradual move back to McCain, he has nine months. Rhetoric will beat substance yet again, few will notice, and things will continue to get worse for conservatives. The VP does nothing. Cheney is the exception for obvious reasons.
LevStrauss on January 31, 2008 at 12:32 AM
McCain said he wouldn’t want someone like Alito because he wears his conservaitism on his sleeve. He also said he wouldn’t want Roe overturned because then women would have to get illegal/dangerous medical procedures.
Alex K on January 31, 2008 at 12:35 AM
“it’s a cancer of stupidity”
funny, I was thinking the same thing about your presence at hotair. Tell me, how much do you profit a year from illegal labor? Your willful ignorance as to the real issues of illegal immigration speak volumes.
full circle on January 31, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Jummy,
You mentioned you are a Madsonian Republican, which I respect. I consider myself a S-D type of Republican.
That html link was a great article. Why did George W abandon the “Ownership Society” concept, I have no idea.
ColtsFan on January 31, 2008 at 12:38 AM
i do think that a given thing in history persists substantially in the thing which emerges from it. here we’re talking about a movement over only thirty years, and it seems to me that the intermediacy between its socialist origins and it’s “conservative” face today is evident. for instanc, in the “democrats want cheap votes and the republicans want cheap labor” formulation.
that said, tanton is still an albeit inactive presence in the movement.
also, there’s no shortage of facile points being made from just pictures of mccain and clinton in the same frame and similar. i wouldn’t feel unjustified even if i did regard think it were a fallacy to speak of an organization’s origins.
there’s another dimension to why immigration cannot be handled by the right except in the most careful and minimal fashion. it’s unfair, but its a political fact.
barely anyone knows or aknowleges the history of ceasar chavez’s thugs whipping border crossers with bicycle chains or tanton’s classically racist screeds about the unimprovable inferiority and overactive breeding of south and central americans. because they’re leftists.
history - or, more to the point, the people who write, teach and recompile history - will not forgive and conciencously forget even the right’s lesser flirtations with what the left does flagrantly.
jummy on January 31, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Colts Fan–I’m flattered when people take the time to read something I write, but I’m floored when they actually remember it a month later. Thanks a bunch!
see-dubya on January 31, 2008 at 12:51 AM
I have. He used to be someone I liked. Nowadays, he comes out with the lamest of defenses for any move that is done by the GOP, no matter how liberal. For instance, he spins the Gang of 14 alignment as an act that saved Bush’s nominees and brought them to the floor. That may have been an unintended consequence, but it certainly wasn’t created with that in mind. Indeed, the Gang of 14 was a counterblast to prevent the GOP from forcing a simple majority to enable judicial nominees to come out of the Judicial committee, and pretty much aborted some of Bush’s nominees, like Miguel Estrada, who would have come out clean had the ‘nuclear option’ been invoked.
Medved has recently switched to supporting every one of McCain’s moves - from Gitmo and Waterboarding to claiming that McCain-Feingold made no difference to campaign funding, McCain-Kennedy wasn’t amnesty, and even promoting McCain’s idiotic claims at the time that what Romney, Tancredo and others were proposing was in fact amnesty.
If McCain were to suddenly advocate drinking urine, I’ll bet you that Medved would find some rational to support it because it’s being done by a Republican (even though Medved has been vicious towards Republicans such as Tancredo (calls him Tancrazy), Romney, Hunter, et al)
infidelpride on January 31, 2008 at 1:12 AM
He seems to be leaning toward Romney, mainly because of his business acumen, from what I can gather.
labrat on January 31, 2008 at 1:13 AM
I agree 99% of the time with Medved…but he is just wrong.
This isn’t about personality or emotion.
This IS about the issues.
McCain:
1. Voted against the 2000 and 2004 tax cuts
2. McCain/Feingold
3. Voted for the shamnesty bill.
Must we go on?
Medved… you are just DEAD WRONG.
msipes on January 31, 2008 at 1:16 AM
One more thing: Medved criticizes talk hosts or callers for calling him McVain, McLame, McAmnesty, et al. Interesting perspective from a man who kept calling Tom Tancredo ‘Tancrazy’.
He was tolerable when he was supporting Huckabee, or even Romney, when the latter was being attacked for being Mormon.
infidelpride on January 31, 2008 at 1:25 AM
i understand that. as obnoxious as i’ve become in throwing those charges around here and in other conservative forums, i never let a progressive call a righty a “racist”. they just don’t have the moral standing to get away with it.
i avoided really being dickish about it myself until certain things developed which really dissapointed me. you see, i’m not one of those who demures from judging progressives harshly when, for instance, you explain to them that they’re in fact marching “against war and imperialism” alongside a guy wearing a sunni scarf as a balaclava under the aegis of a group which actively supported soviet imperialism and is led by saddam hussein’s attorney, and you ask them to take corespondingly serious moral account of what they’re involved in, but their response is to affect a self-conciously incredulous pose. to treat you like you’re a loony chasing red herrings as they have the party literature rolled up in their back pocket.
it’s the same thing we all piled on ron paul about when he wouldn’t give back don black’s donation - and i was giving him the benefit of the doubt right up until the part where he actually came out and affirmatively announced that he just didn’t think he was obligated to make any show of responsibility whatsoever and f**k us for asking.
that’s how i felt following that whole debacle with the nat turner thing. i don’t feel like digging it up, but basicly this white supremacist crank with a net-based “radio” show was bloviating about the “shamnesty” bill. in the course of this, he openly exhorted his audience to assasinate whoever voted “wrong”. the lefty blogs seized on it to equate him with conservative talk radio hosts.
i couldn’t help that*. but the comments section here was ugly. a couple posters were very keen on nat turner. a couple crossed the line into outright racist crap just short of using bad words. but instead of being joined by others in telling them to gtfo, they either wanted to pretend it wasn’t there or tell me i was “smearing” the site by pointing it out.
i’m tempting the banhammer with this, i know, but the last straw which broke my faith was when i actually read v-dare’s faq to see what their policy is. it’s as follows (after a lengthy set-up):
malkin publishes there.
http://www.vdare.com/malkin/index.htm
jummy on January 31, 2008 at 1:34 AM
right.
get bent, d-bag!
jummy on January 31, 2008 at 1:35 AM
Medved’s description of McCain is just false, he’s defamation or Rush is just wrong, hmmm ya think maybe Medved is deflecting righteous criticism and doing his neocon bit to support a RINO replacement for Bush?
Yeah, he stinks from living in the tank.
Speakup on January 31, 2008 at 1:37 AM
Medved is an OPEN BORDERS ZEALOT.
DfDeportation on January 31, 2008 at 1:38 AM
* progressive websites from bradblog to information clearinghouse had used nat turner’s crazy rants themselves, e.g. his claim to have spoken with a navy seal who had forensicly identified explosives on the levees in new orleans but was told by g-men to shut up about it; another claim to have an annonymous source indicating that bush was going to launch an invasion of iran as the 2006 election season’s octobe surprise. so… that’s how progressives felt about turner.
jummy on January 31, 2008 at 1:44 AM
You’re welcome.
I actually saved that article as one of my favorites. I liked that article, not because of the mortgage bailout crisis angle, but rather due to the article’s core issue of “the Ownership Society.”
It made me reevaluate why I embrace conservative themes. It caused me to think and reflect on why I am a conservative, and not a progressive or socialist.
ColtsFan on January 31, 2008 at 3:20 AM
Medved is an idiot, almost as bad as Hugh Hewitt, but for different reasons. He is constantly thumping the drum that we must vote for anyone with an ‘R’ after his name on the ballot in order to prevent a Democrat from getting elected. I’m not so sure that is always a good thing. The more we vote for any old RINO, the more we encourage a move to the left. I’m not sure I can distinguish between Republicans and Democrats in a lot of elections, based on their track record. Constantly accepting compromise is not a good way to move the candidates to more conservative positions, as Medved seems to think it is. I quite listening to Medved a long time ago. Did I mention that he is an idiot?
tballard on January 31, 2008 at 3:21 AM
Good point.
ColtsFan on January 31, 2008 at 3:33 AM
Medved has certainly gone senile in the past decade. I remember when he used to be rather sensible… either that or I was too young to really grasp such levels of ignorance.
I do not, however, remember a time when he was acting so foolish and saying stuff as naive as he just demonstrated with Tucker.
Jockolantern on January 31, 2008 at 4:28 AM
Medved is such a creepy looking guy.
MB4 on January 31, 2008 at 5:50 AM
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