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Yep, you’re doing just that Mel.
thirteen28 on January 29, 2008 at 10:55 PM
the funniest part of that exchange was Colmes strongly hinting that Martinez could be a VP candidate for McCain…and Martinez bursting his bubble by reminding him that he’s not eligible since he wasn’t born here.
truthmattersfa on January 29, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Gawd.
Michelle on January 29, 2008 at 10:57 PM
I thought you did’t have to be US-born to be Veep, you’re just skipped over the in the line of succession.
locke on January 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Yeah, I guess no matter what happens in Nov. it’s a win-win for the Democrats.
Deety on January 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM
So when McCain said he’d “unite the party,” which one was he talking about, exactly?
Slublog on January 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Freud would be proud
Ugly on January 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM
And that guy was Bush’s pick to run the RNC. Thanks, W, for wrecking the GOP!
Bryan on January 29, 2008 at 11:00 PM
No more needs to be said.
Jim-Rose on January 29, 2008 at 11:01 PM
What did he say? I can’t being myself to watch
EJDolbow on January 29, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Steyn fcking nails it.
thirteen28 on January 29, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I can’t BRING myself to watch or type correctly either.
EJDolbow on January 29, 2008 at 11:03 PM
With McCain leading a lot of the big state polls, with wins in NH, SC and FL, and with Rudy’s imminent endorsement plus the endorsement of other GOP leaders, McCain is basically unstoppable at this point. All of this means only one thing — it’s going to be four more years of “President Clinton.”
Outlander on January 29, 2008 at 11:03 PM
The scariest thing to me is, “Where is our bench?” No, really. Besides maybe Bobby Jindal in Louisiana, do we have ANYONE on the bench to get excited about?
Sugar Land on January 29, 2008 at 11:04 PM
But you gotta… you know you will :P
Ugly on January 29, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Truth be told.
geckomon on January 29, 2008 at 11:06 PM
What would happen if conservatism became irrelevant in America, and John McCain actually won the presidency despite the massive amount of protest votes from conservatives?
Would we become the new “loons” of the future, the fringe-clinging troglodites of American politics?
Thanks, Juan McCain. The end of the Republic is near.
———
Why did I have to be born at such a bad time in the history of this country? At 19, I’m finally coming into my own, and yet my beloved country is shooting itself in the foot.
And yet, not my country… because McCain will let become Mexico’s country!
Why do I care so much? Maybe if I just retract from politics, like most of my peers, all will be right with the world. Ignorance is bliss.
Sigh.
HYTEAndy on January 29, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Yep. W. pretty much obliterated the GOP.
ColtsFan on January 29, 2008 at 11:08 PM
My turn to vote is next Tuesday.
I’ll keep thinking happy thoughts until then.
sulla on January 29, 2008 at 11:08 PM
I don’t know how many times I can apologize for voting for Mel Martinez and Charlie Crist. :(
I’m sorry… I’m sorry… I’m sorry.
God, I want to rescind my vote. It pains me.
Enoxo on January 29, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Amendment 12 says the VP must meet the ssame qualifacations as the president.
snaggletoothie on January 29, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Ugh. Too bad he didn’t also give a shout out to his old buddy Juan Hernandez.
Spirit of 1776 on January 29, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Heh. Seems mostly just like the OP lately.
Spirit of 1776 on January 29, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Ya know. I’m starting to look forward to socialized medicine; amnesty and higher taxes. I was tired of working anyways. Long live the gravy train!
lorien1973 on January 29, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Wow. All’s I can say is: Lighten up! Yes, he fails in a lot of my tests for an ideal candidate… But I think McCain can beat Billary. I would MUCH rather have a McCain administration rather than a third term for Billary.
But the nation can survive even a Hillary! presidency. It will just take several Republican administrations to undo the damage.
darkpixel on January 29, 2008 at 11:13 PM
If you think McCain and Billary are that different to be even qualified as a reason, you may want to take another look, because they’re not.
Enoxo on January 29, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I’d find a hillary presidency far more entertaining. Personally. It’d be a rerun of the 90’s, but the second time is alwasy uglier. Just remember when you went back with your ex-girlfriend. The second time -really- sucked.
lorien1973 on January 29, 2008 at 11:17 PM
If McCain is the nominee I am going to vote for a Dem. In my opinion it’s better to vote for the REAL Dem rather the Dem in GOP clothing. If McCain is elected and screws up, by acting like a Dem, he hands the Dems the 2012 election. My as well let a REAL Dem screw up through 2012 so they clear the way for a 2012 GOP win.
DerKrieger on January 29, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Shady Fraud!
Chakra Hammer on January 29, 2008 at 11:18 PM
And the GOP House and Senate members are much more likely to oppose Hillary than McCain on Liberal legislation.
DerKrieger on January 29, 2008 at 11:18 PM
yea, man. mccain is a shape-shifting lizardoid mexican.
google zeitgeist.
jummy on January 29, 2008 at 11:19 PM
All one can do is laugh.
SouthernGent on January 29, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Precisely. Which is why if it’s a Hillary/McCain fight, I’ll stay home. If it’s an Obama/McCain fight, I’ll be voting Obama.
Enoxo on January 29, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Well, time to get crackin’ on my incandescent light-bulb smuggling operation!
Straight shot up I-90 from Nogales and no worries!
Whoo Hooo!
Deety on January 29, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Can we now question GOP integrity?
Speakup on January 29, 2008 at 11:20 PM
I, for one, welcome our new Democrat overlords.
HYTEAndy on January 29, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Yeah, how bad can it be anyway? Hillary said she hears me.
Spirit of 1776 on January 29, 2008 at 11:22 PM
I wonder if the emperor Honorius watching the Visigoths coming over the seventh hill truly realized that the Roman empire was about to fall. This is just another page of history, isn’t it? Will this be the end of our civilization? Turn the page.
lorien1973 on January 29, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Now there’s a bright idea! Need a distributor?
We’ll hide them in bags of cocaine coming over the border. No one will ever stop to look!
see-dubya on January 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Slip of tongue or the plan all along?
ConservativePartyNow on January 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Someone should start a very public effort to get REAL Conservatives to sit out the election. That way The Dem will win but won’t be able to claim any kind of mandate if a huge chunk of the electorate simply sits it out. I don’t look forward to another 4 years fighting another GOP president. I’m worn out from fighting presidente Bush!
DerKrieger on January 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM
We are so screwed
Smiles on January 29, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Well said…
eanax on January 29, 2008 at 11:25 PM
With Hillary or Obama you’d be guaranteed 4 years of a rat in the White House. With McCain you’re guaranteed 8 because 2012 would be lost as well.
Buddahpundit on January 29, 2008 at 11:28 PM
For anyone unable to play the video (or doesn’t want to):
Martinez:
amerpundit on January 29, 2008 at 11:29 PM
That’s the spirit!
Get in on the ground floor!
There is almost unlimited potential in black-market goods and services just around the corner!
Deety on January 29, 2008 at 11:29 PM
If you think they are not different, I doubt if you have spent any time watching the Senate floor debates, nor have you examined their voting records or interest group ratings.
scotth on January 29, 2008 at 11:30 PM
I don’t feel any representation by either the Republican or the Democratic parties anymore.
The voice of conservatism is lost and adrift in a ocean of self absorbing populism that perverts into this current political climate of Grandiose Elitism.
Ushering in the age of anti-conservatism.
Kini on January 29, 2008 at 11:32 PM
The country wouldn’t make it that long.
yo on January 29, 2008 at 11:32 PM
RIP: The Republican Party 1854-2008
Thanks a lot McCain.
CABE on January 29, 2008 at 11:32 PM
How good does Fred sound right now?
I hope McCain eats some conservative cookies or something, I’m drinking scotch heavily tonight. Our party is crumbling before our eyes.
FLcapitalistthug on January 29, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Time for a…SECOND LOOK AT BOB MICHEL!
The day of the country club Republican is back baby!
No more Adam Smith neckties or gouche abortion protests. Gone! is the reign of nouvo riche entrepenuers and shabby homeschoolers.
The days of civilized prep school manners and cheap Mexican labor are nestled in the warm bosom of Rockefeller’s GOP.
Reagan’s dead conservatives, get over it.
billy on January 29, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Melodious thoughts on the passing scene.
T J Green on January 29, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Ummm,looks like a gaff,but could it be something
else,maybe the alternate universe cracked opened and
contracted quickly as he recovered from his slip
of the tongue!hahahaha
canopfor on January 29, 2008 at 11:40 PM
If McCain is the nominee, I may just vote for Obama/Hillary.
But I will also leave this country.
Just because we are all in the same boat, doesn’t mean you have to go down with it.
Darnell Clayton on January 29, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Sadly, the Republican Party will move right along without us.
IfWhen McCain wins the nomination next week, it will be a firm rejection of conservatism and a tremendous defeat for conservatives–both its leaders and grassroots–leaving us virtually irrelevant and a minority within our own party.Patriot33 on January 29, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Killing conservatism is the NEA’s duty. How do you think they’re doing so far?
Connie on January 29, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Got a good point…I’m leaving the party (if McCain wins Super Tues.) but leaving the country would be unpatriotic and expensive don’t you think?
CABE on January 29, 2008 at 11:43 PM
We’re back on the path to socialism.
DerKrieger on January 29, 2008 at 11:44 PM
wow.
i’m being sincere with this: welcome back to reality.
jummy on January 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Unpatriotic is subject to debate.
But as far as expenses go, wait until the new taxes roll in because social security imploded and Americans demanded health care (and Uncle Sam was the only one rich enough to cover everyone).
Factor that in…moving is definitely cheaper!
Darnell Clayton on January 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Then I propose a new party. A reformed Republican Party. It will be called “The Federalist Party.” It will embrace limited government, tax cuts, border security & immigration enforcement, and personal responsibility.
CABE on January 29, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Are there enough conservatives left who are willing to give birth to and raise baby Republicans? Seriously.
Connie on January 29, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I have no plans to leave the party or the country. I’ll stay around and fight, even if I’m the last conservative standing.
As much as despise McCain, I’ll hold my nose if it comes to that. The next President will nominate as many as 3 judges. While McCain won’t give us the ideal choices, we have a better chance with him than Hildebeast or Obamassiah. Hillary will draw up plans for surrender in Iraq within 60 days, while McCain will fight it out.
If McCain wins, I fear for conservatism. If Hillary or Obama win, I fear more for the country.
amerpundit on January 29, 2008 at 11:49 PM
McCain and Obama
Emperor Palatine and Sith Lord
Either way, we’re screwed
Kini on January 29, 2008 at 11:51 PM
we care about that stuff again all of a sudden? i thought the most importantest things in the world were keeping mexicans and gays out.
jummy on January 29, 2008 at 11:51 PM
You’re forgetting, Hon, that whatever this moron does, will be blamed on Republicans. At least if the Clintons are in office, it will be blamed on the Dems and we have a shot in 4 years. Look at the bigger picture.
tickleddragon on January 29, 2008 at 11:53 PM
It is a reality, however look at it this way McCain IS ideologically closer to MORE of the voters(Rudy is the closest), however think of this as an opportunity to gain new members as a way of growing the party, Conservatism is NOT dead and it’s not going anywhere.. However, I do wish that some in the movement would be a little more receptive to allow our party to grow, it’s that a Conservative principal?
Pro-growth.. I want the party to GROW..
That cannot happen, being against and rejecting EVERYTHING.
Chakra Hammer on January 29, 2008 at 11:53 PM
The most importantest (sic) thing is to prevent socialism. Importing millions of illegals is a shortcut to get there.
DerKrieger on January 29, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Not only blamed on Hillary but also blamed on the democrat House and Senate!
Chakra Hammer on January 29, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Kang: 51%
Kodos: 49%
“Don’t blame me I voted for Kodos” – Homer Simpson.
A fool who votes for the lesser of two fools is still a fool.
CABE on January 29, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Exactly why it’s better to vote Dem if McCain is the nominee. He guarantees a Dem win in 2012. If he doesn’t die before then he likely won’t be running again.
DerKrieger on January 29, 2008 at 11:55 PM
The frightening part is that if McCain is the nominee we won’t be treated to another four years of the Clintons. We’ll be treated to four years of Capt. Queeg. I don’t see how he loses against a candidate with a 50% disapproval rating, who’s pissed off the keystone constituency of the Dem. Party and the McGovern babies.
Gerard on January 29, 2008 at 11:56 PM
When confronted by the lesser of two evils.
What path does one take?
Kini on January 29, 2008 at 11:58 PM
I don’t believe Conservatism is dead. I just think gubberment schools have dumbed most of America down. Long range plans, people! It was a long-range plan!
SouthernGent on January 29, 2008 at 11:59 PM
they are against growing the party. the hard numbers show that the gop lost 20% of the national latino vote between 2004 and 2006. it’s because any republican with a spanish surname is framed as a spy on behalf of the “reconquistas”. they don’t care. they won’t pursue the black vote, snubbing black audiences. their reasining is precisely, “why appeal to people who weren’t going to vote for you anyway?” you can leave the identity based groups behind and just speak in general terms: it doesn’t matter how many people are turned off. they don’t care.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Why does one have to take a path when both paths clearly lead off a cliff?
CABE on January 30, 2008 at 12:02 AM
SECOND LOOK AT HILLARY!
Gregor on January 30, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Either way I’m going off a cliff. The one way I have a shot at a parachute that works.
amerpundit on January 30, 2008 at 12:04 AM
no it won’t! do you people have any memory?
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 12:04 AM
MY EYES!!! MY EYES!!!
Deety on January 30, 2008 at 12:04 AM
And one who complained about Clinton’s lies and Kerry’s flip-flops and lies, then covers up and votes for Romney is a hypocrite.
Chakra Hammer on January 30, 2008 at 12:05 AM
What’s the alternative, sit at home and wish the world away?
I’m not a lemming, so I’m not going off the cliff. But I may be eaten by the predators.
Kini on January 30, 2008 at 12:05 AM
There’s a thin line between brave and stupid.
CABE on January 30, 2008 at 12:06 AM
There’s always Costa Rica!
Kini on January 30, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Yes, we do. We remember what happened when the the last time that the Dems had 2 years with both houses of congress and the WH – it led directly to the 1994 takeover.
thirteen28 on January 30, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Boo-freaking-hoo
29Victor on January 30, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I’ll take my shot with the parachute. You can stare at the rocks getting closer if you wish.
amerpundit on January 30, 2008 at 12:09 AM
DerKrieger on January 29, 2008 at 11:54 PM
It’s not a shortcut.
It’s a superhighway.
MS-13, coming to a neighborhood near you.
Gerard on January 30, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Under a Pres. McCain and a vice-Pres. Huckabee, that simply won’t happen.
Under McCain an amnesty plan, of some sort, will be enacted.
The SCHIP program will expand to include even larger numbers of Americans.
The Supreme Court will be strengthened by more unprincipled Souter/Kennedys who will expand the regulatory role of Gov’t and move the culture leftward. The Bush tax cuts will expire and the new administration will do little replace them.
Payroll taxes will increase as “the only way” to pay for entitlements.
Sarbannes-Oxley won’t be amended, it will be expanded and drive even more high tech start-ups to London and Mumbai.
Oh, and don’t forget the global warming, deadly, deadly global warming. All change is good “cept climate change don’t ya know.
And all of it happening under the aegis of “conservativism”
It’s Schwarzenegger’s California in all 50 states.
If that’s the way to grow the party, then I wish it wouldn’t.
billy on January 30, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Years from now gathered around a glow lamp (fire places will be against the law due to “climate change”) your grand child will ask you, “Grandpa, who did you vote for in the great election of 2008?” “Well, AmeriPunditJrJr, I voted for the guy who destroyed the Constitution and had the last remnants of conservatives chemically castrated.”
Then the grandkids will ask, “What’s a conservative?”
AmeriPundit: “NOOOOO!!!!!!”
Tonight, you will be visited by three spirits.
CABE on January 30, 2008 at 12:15 AM
i challenge you to explain how illegal immigration is a cause of socialism.
i’m going to pull this out for the four millionth time and aain nobody’s going to listen, but these are historical facts.
OPPOSITION TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION HAS IT’S ORIGINS ON THE SOCIALIST LEFT
ceasar chavez, founder of the united agricultural workers union, who’s vote hillary ironicly won last week, opposed illegal immigrants as “scabs”. he actually organized the sort of violence at the border contemporary immigration enforcement groups are libelously accused of. he called them “wet lines”.
the founder of just about every immigration restrictionist group you might have heard of is a green socialist named john tanton. tanton was drunk on neo-malthusian pseudoscience promoting the “crisis” of overpopulation. his advocacy of immigration reduction was part margaret sanger and part seashepard anti-humanism.
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/2608/
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 12:16 AM
JC Watts?
Tim Burton on January 30, 2008 at 12:16 AM
haven’t you been paying attention?
gingrich is a “rino” too now.
jummy on January 30, 2008 at 12:20 AM
So much truth there.
A question though, for you and others if they so choose: do you pick mccain or hillary, if it came to it, knowing that the former divides the GOP or the latter that it could see the country harm?
I kind of stand with Rush Limbaugh on that (but could be convinced otherwise): idea approximated, “I’d rather see the country get screwed during a dem’s time, such that conservatism may come back in 4 years.”
knob on January 30, 2008 at 12:21 AM
billy, I really do not think McCain would be worse that GHWB was on judges.. 50%
* David Souter – 1990
* Clarence Thomas – 1991
Even Ronald Reagan didn’t have a 100% record, getting them confirmed is the hard part..
Sandra Day O’Connor
William Rehnquist
Antonin Scalia
Robert Bork(Got Borked and we got)
Anthony Kennedy
Chakra Hammer on January 30, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Wouldn’t have to take that long, it could start in 2010 at the midterms.
billy on January 30, 2008 at 12:24 AM
How about Michael Steele of Maryland?
ColtsFan on January 30, 2008 at 12:24 AM
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