New Hampshire paper: Hillary’s a dirty liar who played us all for chumps; Update: Revised numbers

posted at 5:20 pm on January 29, 2008 by Allahpundit

Oh, that’s the stuff.

COURTING VOTERS in Iowa and New Hampshire, last August Sen. Hillary Clinton signed a pledge not to “campaign or participate” in the Michigan or Florida Democratic primaries. She participated in both primaries and is campaigning in Florida. Which proves, again, that Hillary Clinton is a liar…

Clinton coldly and knowingly lied to New Hampshire and Iowa. Her promise was not a vague statement. It was a signed pledge with a clear and unequivocal meaning.

She signed it thinking that keeping the other candidates out of Michigan and Florida was to her advantage, but knowing she would break it if that proved beneficial later on. It did, and she did.

New Hampshire voters, you were played for suckers.

And so they were! Although no story of Clintonian malfeasance is complete without the inevitable semantic parsing, so here you go: Team Glacier informs us that no, the events she held over the weekend don’t constitute “campaigning” because they were (a) fundraisers and (b) closed to the public. Even though they were also (c) duly covered by the local press, which is where most of the vote potential is anyway.

The kicker? Geraghty’s been gaming out Super Ultra Mega Tuesday and concludes that Michigan’s and Florida’s stripped delegates could be the margin of victory for the nomination. This imperfect but useful mega-snapshot bears him out, predicting based on current polls that she’ll finish with 1,605 to Obama’s 1,032, with 2,025 needed to win — assuming Michigan and Florida aren’t counted. They’re worth 366 combined, which puts her on the cusp of clinching if added to her total. The polls haven’t yet accounted for the impact of Teddy’s endorsement, though, so the true margin between her and Obama may be tighter than this indicates, making those delegates even more important and raising the syrupy sweet prospect of a Democratic “selected, not elected” meltdown this summer. Imagine: the DNC reverses itself and throws the Florida and Michigan delegates to Hillary; Obama’s people file suit and launch a media war aimed at persuading her superdelegates (who can vote for anyone regardless of their state’s primary results) to punish her by switching to the candidate who kept his pledge; whereupon civil war erupts and the supporters of whoever loses stay home in November out of spite. A golden age looms for the conservative blogosphere, my friends. Keep hope alive.

I’m woozy at the (admittedly unlikely) prospect of it. While I recover, watch this and see if you can figure out who she’s talking about.

Update: Awe. Some.

Update: Dave Weigel at Reason catches me napping:

Great post on that (in the “Hillary played you for suckers” post) but you say Hillary will add the 366 Florida and Michigan delegates to her total. She won 55% of the delegates in Michigan and will get as many in Florida, give or take 5 percent. Obama will get his Florida delegates, Edwards will get his, and “Uncommitted” will get his from Michigan – all, presumably, will go to Obama.

So it’s a little less likely that Clinton could swing the thing by cheating on FL and MI. Assuming she gets the same 55% in Florida that she got in Michigan she’ll get 172 committed delegates to the 141 that go to the other candidates: a 31 delegate advantage. (I’m counting the delegates who would have been assigned on primary day, not counting the extras who’ll be decided by the state party, or the superdelegates.) Might be more, might be less

Yep, sloppy on my part. Apologies for the error.


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Hillary’s a dirty liar who played us all for chumps

In other news, water is wet, martinis are dry…

Frozen Tex on January 29, 2008 at 5:23 PM

What she’s saying is she gets up everyday and tries to help someone. And as president she will try to help someone everyday. That someone is Hillary Clinton.

ronsfi on January 29, 2008 at 5:27 PM

wow the MSM spining against the clintons. Olby must have some new worst person in the world material to use.

Nah Olby wouldnt critisize the media they are liberals.

William Amos on January 29, 2008 at 5:28 PM

Chicago 1968 redux.

INC on January 29, 2008 at 5:29 PM

a Democratic “selected, not elected” meltdown this summer

It would be by far the best show on TV. I’m humming the old Clinton campaign song in my head. Don’t stop thinkin’ about tomorrow. Don’t stop, it’ll soon be here…

Vote Sauron 08 on January 29, 2008 at 5:31 PM

Chicago 1968 redux.

INC on January 29, 2008 at 5:29 PM

Don’t tease us. That’s too much to even hope for.

Vote Sauron 08 on January 29, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Imagine this scenario …

Obama wins a closely battled nomination, at which point Bill and Hillary take the usual Democrat process of going through the court system to overturn any result they don’t like. The courts rule that Florida and Michigan voters should not have their votes suppressed, and order the delegates seated, which then reverses the nomination and hands it to Hillary.

Now think about that for a moment. How would the black citizens of this country react to having a court overturn the nomination of a black man for the President of the United States, only to hand it over to a white woman.

I’m preparing myself for a civil war/race war that will be like nothing we’ve ever seen. I’ll be pasting Obama stickers on my cars, coving my lawn with “Obama Rules!” signs, and doing anything I can to stay alive.

I can’t wait!

Gregor on January 29, 2008 at 5:33 PM

[Intellectual] Cripple Fight!

ErikTheRed on January 29, 2008 at 5:34 PM

Wouldn’t it be grand if this all came true? Obama and Hillary, the night of long knives? I just don’t see Obama being able to win the “play in the mud” sweepstakes with her….

How about this scenario: Romney somehow manages to pull it together and get enough delegates to not go to convention. The dems go to convention and Silky sells out Obama, thus giving Hill the nomination. The entire process is even MORE tainted by racism/feminism politics.

Romney selects someone great like Steele. What would the snubbed African-American voters do, especially if they think that Hillary stole or stabbed Obama, the great black man, in the back?

Especially if Romney grabs someone like Bill Cosby as an endorsement.

Wouldn’t it be sweet, sweet schaudenfraued if Hill loses the general due to black voter revolt?

Vanceone on January 29, 2008 at 5:34 PM

New Hampshire voters, you were played for suckers.

I smell another impeachment coming.

New Hampshire says, “Grrrrrrr!”

fogw on January 29, 2008 at 5:36 PM

Wouldn’t it be sweet, sweet schaudenfraued if Hill loses the general due to black voter revolt?

Vanceone on January 29, 2008 at 5:34 PM

She’d most likely end up dead.

Gregor on January 29, 2008 at 5:36 PM

A couple of weeks ago I was envisioning the possibility of an “elected not selected” scenario in Colorado but that was based on the premise that the Clinton machine had all the super-delegates locked up. Teddy’s endorsement of Obama may just be the signal for those delegates that it is O.K. to break for Obama though.

Deety on January 29, 2008 at 5:36 PM

i love it. here’s a video of hillary cutting a tv spot, posing as if she’s campaigning, talking to a blank wall (or whatever). she’s so genuine it hurts.

jimmer on January 29, 2008 at 5:36 PM

Not really anything surprising, but a lot of people I talk to in the military are pondering where we’re going to go live if Hillary gets elected. We’re thinking of starting a colony in Canada somewhere maybe if anyone is interested. I’d gladly take retro-culture and agrarianism over 4 years of bowing my knee to polite socialism.

blankminde on January 29, 2008 at 5:37 PM

Romney selects someone great like Steele. What would the snubbed African-American voters do, especially if they think that Hillary stole or stabbed Obama, the great black man, in the back?

Especially if Romney grabs someone like Bill Cosby as an endorsement.

Wouldn’t it be sweet, sweet schaudenfraued if Hill loses the general due to black voter revolt?

Vanceone on January 29, 2008 at 5:34 PM

Dare to dream…

Frozen Tex on January 29, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Question is, who presently pulls the strings in the DNC? Is it still Clinton driven? Seems like they are the ones in a kingmaker role. I have a tingly feeling of anticipation that AP has called it. What fun!

a capella on January 29, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Wouldn’t it be funny if Obama wins instead of HRC? Should those delegates count then?

acleaver on January 29, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Schadenfreudelicious!

Brat on January 29, 2008 at 5:40 PM

the syrupy sweet prospect of a Democratic “selected, not elected” meltdown this summer.

I do believe I have the vapors (or in Hillary panders-speak, tha vapahs).

ThePrez on January 29, 2008 at 5:40 PM

But how does she stay so wonnnnderful?

whitetop on January 29, 2008 at 5:41 PM

New Hampshire says, “Grrrrrrr!” . “Meowwwww!”

I needed a fix.

fogw on January 29, 2008 at 5:42 PM

staying classy. love the KKKlintons

custer on January 29, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Romney selects someone great like Steele. What would the snubbed African-American voters do, especially if they think that Hillary stole or stabbed Obama, the great black man, in the back?

Especially if Romney grabs someone like Bill Cosby as an endorsement.

Wouldn’t it be sweet, sweet schaudenfraued if Hill loses the general due to black voter revolt?

Vanceone on January 29, 2008 at 5:34 PM

From all appearences, Steele is also darker than Obama. As long as stupid racism is part of the equation, shouldn’t more dark pigmentation count for higher quality in the minds of those using that as a litmus? Man, what a world we live in.

a capella on January 29, 2008 at 5:45 PM

The fact that anyone is surprised by a Clinton lying shows the ignorance of the defeatocrats.

Les in NC on January 29, 2008 at 5:45 PM

Ya know, it’s gotta be hard being a moonbat these days. I mean, the Democratic Party’s leaders just don’t stand for ANYTHING. Every single promise and pledge and rant they make is a lie, and it’s not like they even wait a while before demonstrating that they’re only interested in power. They do it the moment they get it. Win NH, immediately break the pledge and off to MI. It’s almost enough to make a lemming stare at their belly button. Anybody But Hillary seriously has a chance at being a leftist theme in the fall as well as one from the right.

scottm on January 29, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Romney selects someone great like Steele. What would the snubbed African-American voters do, especially if they think that Hillary stole or stabbed Obama, the great black man, in the back?

Vanceone on January 29, 2008 at 5:34 PM

Problem with that is, people like Steele, Rice, Thomas etc. are automatically “un-black” by virtue of being Republicans.

Deety on January 29, 2008 at 5:49 PM

“Aww don’t feel noways tired. I’ve come too faarrr from where I started frum…Aww culd have read this all day luung.”

Fan.Freakin.Tastic.

Dorvillian on January 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Wouldn’t it be funny if Obama wins instead of HRC? Should those delegates count then?

acleaver on January 29, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Oh, perfect! No doubt, Hillary would suddenly be in favor of ignoring the citizens of Florida.

Gregor on January 29, 2008 at 5:51 PM

… whereupon civil war erupts and the supporters of whoever loses stay home in November out of spite. A golden age looms for the conservative blogosphere, my friends. Keep hope alive.

Yes we can !!!

Sorry, I got caught up in the moment.

Blacksheep on January 29, 2008 at 5:53 PM

Things are looking up.

cjs1943 on January 29, 2008 at 5:55 PM

The nixon stratagey end game. when you promise everythin to everyone you wind up not being liked by anyone. Winning by not losing is not the same as winning by winning.

unseen on January 29, 2008 at 5:59 PM

The Clintons are liars?

The sun rose in the East today, in San Diego.

Entelechy on January 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Democrats we are the party of change we hate everyone including other democrats. Throw them all out of power !

William Amos on January 29, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Now that the Clinton’s have thrown race vs. gender into the mix here, can you imagine the tenor of protests that will be going on outside the Dem’s convention center if this becomes a brokered mess? Denver better plan on lots of off-duty police overtime, if that’s the case. It might make ’68 look like a lovefest.

If Hillary were to do this, and the GOP picked Steele as VP (a guy who almost got elected in a tough year based on his support in the black community), things might get interesting. Unfortunately, Steele is a better match with McCain, as opposed to Romney (two Northeastern domestic issue types).

michaelo on January 29, 2008 at 6:11 PM

New Hampshire’s realization:
Day late, dollar short… lucky for Hill, typical for us.

Gartrip on January 29, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Hillary will fight for Michigan/Florida delegates at the convention. This is what I’ve been pointing out since the primary schedule was changed, and the DNC ‘said’ they would not award delegates from those two states.

This is what I’ve been pointing out since the campaigning began.

I’m really hoping the Clinton mob tries a hostile take over at the convention. It’s gonna be fun.

rockhauler on January 29, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Unfortunately, Steele is a better match with McCain, as opposed to Romney (two Northeastern domestic issue types).

michaelo on January 29, 2008 at 6:11 PM

I agree. I also get the feeling that Steele prefers McCain to the other candidates. Nothing specific just the tenor of the occaissional commentary I have heard from him on the race.

In any case, I really don’t see the GOP nominee going with a VP pick based race or gender. Seems too much like a cynical election “gimmick”.

Deety on January 29, 2008 at 6:20 PM

see if you can figure out who she’s talking about.

People. She’s talking about people. She’s ignoring the animals and the PLANTS!

fred5678 on January 29, 2008 at 6:28 PM

AP, it may make you woozy, but thanks for that excellent analysis.

Imagine: the DNC reverses itself and throws the Florida and Michigan delegates to Hillary.

Imagine it? I assume it.

petefrt on January 29, 2008 at 6:31 PM

and HRC or any liberal lying is a surprise to who?

oldernslower on January 29, 2008 at 6:37 PM

Stories like this really help take my mind off the fact I have no one to vote for next Tuesday.

Chuck Schick on January 29, 2008 at 6:46 PM

Premature Schadenfreude, and too much of it, on this thread. She’s easier to beat in November.

Entelechy on January 29, 2008 at 6:51 PM

Hillary’s a dirty liar who played us all for chumps

What took the libs so long to find out what WE have known all along. Actually I think they knew all along but just turned their stupid heads from it. As long as these two scums have the info contained in the FBI files that they illegally obtained they will hold the trump card. I must say – it is real fun seeing them smacked around like this !!

OBX Pete on January 29, 2008 at 7:14 PM

I think it’s a no brainer,shes talking about three
people,as in I,ME and Myself,Hillary is meaning herself.
She has lied so often and so much,she’s lost touch of her
own soul,and it certainly didn’t happen overnight,but all
the way back to Arkansa,just before 1992!

canopfor on January 29, 2008 at 7:16 PM

Once again……no sh!t Sherlock!!!! Hillary Clinton is a liar?

Winebabe on January 29, 2008 at 7:41 PM

The Clinton’s came on the political radar back in 92′
as the young Liberals who brought hope,change. And if
you all remember the media went ga-ga,they made comparisons
of JFK,oh that grand Liberal fairy tale of Camelot.Here they thought,yes America can be great again,back to where
America should be,Liberals could do know wrong.

The Clintons were elected,skeltons and chickens from
Arkansa were coming back to haunt them,but the media ignored Bills brothers problems and Aligations of
the Clintons.Cattle futures,White water land fraud,
nothing was going to ruin this percieved Liberal
Utopia,the media ignored it.

Now Hill and Bill are in the White House,as First Lady
as an unelected and unaccountable.Hillary single handily
tried to hijack 1/3 of the American economy and ram health care through,and still no media outcry!

I’ll be here typing into the morning at this rate,
flash forward till now,Bill “Slick Willy” in the past
had every Lib worth there salt defending BILl and Hill.
Ya it worked real good taking it to the Republicans,
but Billy boy used the same tactic on his own party.
And it has back-fired in both of their faces,the only
thing for Lying Hillary that could be worse is that all those Political Bodies are now slowly floating to the top,
coming back to haunt the Clintons!

canopfor on January 29, 2008 at 7:49 PM

Reading the update, you have to wonder how she can walk with b*lls that large.

I hope we are watching the end of the Clinton machine as pieces begin to fall away. Now they are pitting themselves against the DNC. The NH newspaper and other Dems are starting to talk out about the sliminess of HillBilly. I watched “Open Range” over the weekend. The Dems are like the townfolk. Once somebody like Costner and Duvall are brave enough to stand up to the villans, then the townfolk come out shooting and help take the oppressive bad guys down. Let’s hope high noon is comin’.

Mallard T. Drake on January 29, 2008 at 7:57 PM

Which proves, again, that Hillary Clinton is a liar…

Well, how ’bout that?

uncivilized on January 29, 2008 at 8:04 PM

How do you know when a Clinton is lying? They’re breathing. Welcome to the party!

Mooseman on January 29, 2008 at 8:16 PM

All presumably will go to Obama?

I see a lawsuit in uncommitted’s future ala Nevada.

Hilarity ensues… or is that Hillarity?

danking70 on January 29, 2008 at 8:45 PM

Where’s Oprah?

jgapinoy on January 29, 2008 at 8:50 PM

Who in God’s name is really honestly surprised by anything underhanded the Clintons do???
Thing is, if she and Bill do make it back to the White House, will these idiots still be surprised and will they admit their responsibility when the scandals, misuse of power and failure to run the country continues on as if Bill were still pres?

4shoes on January 29, 2008 at 8:53 PM

The whole world is watching ! The whole world is watching ! (My fondest memories of 1968)

JonRoss on January 29, 2008 at 9:31 PM

Great screen cap above. Looks like it says King F_ _ou behind her head like she’s implicating you’ve been royally f’ed.

Big John on January 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘campaign’ is.”

-Hillary Clinton

labrat on January 30, 2008 at 3:18 AM

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘campaign’ is.”

-Hillary Clinton

labrat on January 30, 2008 at 3:18 AM

mitt or hillary who can tell lies better?

Chakra Hammer on January 30, 2008 at 5:48 AM

This scenario is all well and good but it won’t mean a thing unless the Republicans nominate someone that conservatives can get behind. It would be the cruelest of ironies to see this Hillary-Obama Helter Skelter play out, only to the benefit of a McCain-Huckabee ticket

Dudley Smith on January 30, 2008 at 7:02 AM

Hillary lied??!?!

I’m shocked!

tgillian on January 30, 2008 at 7:47 AM

If I’m reading this correctly, it means I should’ve cornered the market on Crying-Towels, when I had the chance.

alas n’ alack…po’ meeeee

franksalterego on February 5, 2008 at 5:24 PM