Obama revealed: He’s a doctrinaire leftwinger on immigration

posted at 3:15 pm on January 28, 2008 by Bryan

Barack Obama’s defeat in the Nevada caucus revealed a weakness that the Clintons have been only too happy to exploit: Obama doesn’t win with Democrat Hispanic voters, or at least he didn’t in that state. Hillary Clinton won among Latinos in Nevada, 64-24, making her win there a sign that as the primary season heads west, Obama is going to meet a racial headwind. His solution: Pander to Hispanics by promising to support drivers licenses for illegal aliens.

Asked directly about the issue now, her California campaign spokesman said Clinton “believes the solution is to pass comprehensive immigration reform.”

“Barack Obama has not backed down” on driver’s licenses for undocumented people, said Federico Peña, a former Clinton administration Cabinet member and Denver mayor now supporting Obama. “I think when the Latino community hears Barack’s position on such an important and controversial issue, they’ll understand that his heart and his intellect is with Latino community.”

Obama’s intention is to draw distinctions between himself and Clinton on what are otherwise indistinguishable positions on immigration. Both have adopted the standard Democratic approach of favoring tougher enforcement along with earned legalization.

The Illinois senator is differentiating himself in three key areas: driver’s licenses, a promise to take up immigration reform his first year in office, and his background as the son of an immigrant (his father was Kenyan) and a community organizer in Chicago.

By dragging his own father into the debate, Obama is also signaling that he’ll blur the line between legal and illegal immigration. Most legal immigrants will not appreciate this move, at all.

This policy emphasis may help Obama in the primaries but it certainly won’t help him in the general election if he’s the nominee. Here’s a preview of how a general election debate would go for the Messiah if he’s asked about drivers licenses for illegals. Watch him squirm.

Slick. Not.

That’s from the Nevada Democrat debate back in November, which took place after Hillary Clinton had run into the licenses for illegals buzzsaw thanks to NY Gov Eliot Spitzer’s plan to allow illegals to obtain licenses in his state. Since that time, Spitzer has abandoned that plan, liberal Maryland has shifted away from allowing illegals to obtain licenses and Michigan has done likewise. Politicians in those states are responding both to the security problems that arise from granting licenses to illegals, but more importantly they’re responding to voter sentiment. Gov. Bill Richardson, who signed a law allowing illegal aliens to obtain licenses in New Mexico, is out of the race. Voters oppose licenses for illegal aliens to the tune of 77% against.

In a general election, this issue will be a big loser for Obama. And because he supported drivers licenses for illegal aliens when he was in the Illinois state legislature, Obama will have a hard time spinning out of the move he’s making now. He has consistently supported drivers licenses throughout his brief political career.


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BKennedy on January 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM

In a general election, this issue will be a big loser for Obama.

Will it? Honest question. As much as immigration has been a uniting force on the right, it seems we have the minority voice on the issue. With the MSM & 3/4 of the Congress holding his same viewpoint (not to mention McCain if he gets the GOP nod), I wonder if his immigration views are going to cause that much of a splash.

Tim on January 28, 2008 at 3:21 PM

I`M SHOCKED!

Not really, did anyone think he wouldn`t have supported this bone-headed idea?

ThePrez on January 28, 2008 at 3:21 PM

General election kryptonite, heh.

Theworldisnotenough on January 28, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Tim on January 28, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Absorb the second to last paragraph. Even liberals get burned and learn to run away from this issue.

Bryan on January 28, 2008 at 3:22 PM

To clarify…we have the minority “voice” – not the minority “vote.” It just seems like voice matters more in these sorts of things.

Tim on January 28, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Thanks, Bryan.

Tim on January 28, 2008 at 3:23 PM

I would love to see Mitt and him in a debate. Talk about chewing someone up and spitting them out. Mitt, with his superior intellect and poise, would just shred him. Same way with Hillary.

cjs1943 on January 28, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Obama revealed: He’s a doctrinaire leftwinger on immigrationpretty much everything

Fixed that for you.

ReubenJCogburn on January 28, 2008 at 3:31 PM

This policy emphasis may help Obama in the primaries but it certainly won’t help him in the general election if he’s the nominee.

True. But the question is how much will it hurt him?

Spirit of 1776 on January 28, 2008 at 3:33 PM

I still believe Hillary will be the dem nominee.

Chakra Hammer on January 28, 2008 at 3:34 PM

I wonder if his immigration views are going to cause that much of a splash.

Tim on January 28, 2008 at 3:21 PM

In the black electorate yes, the massage that the Democrat party is the party of illegal aliens would be hard to wash away and that will leave a lingering distrust among the Black electorate. I’m not saying Black people would not vote for Obama, but the lasting sentiment among Black voters is that they have been sold out by the Democrat party and cast aside for illegals.

In swing states, it will make a difference if the GOP candidate is running to the right of Obama on immigration. Ohio is very much in the anti-illegal alien column. And Florida, although you do not see tough talk from the GOP on immigration before the primary there is alot of latent opposition to illegal aliens, and lingering resentment of the Hispanization of the state. I think that lingering resentment would draw the anti-illegal immigration voter to the voting booth, in the same way same sex marriage drew out the vote. I doubt a blatantly pro-illegal alien candidate would take the state. Many Cubans vote GOP and many do not care about other latinos being deported despite what the Mmiami politicians have to say.

Theworldisnotenough on January 28, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Hillary will be the dem nominee, they will have their strongest candidate, and they will be giddy as h3ll IF we wipeout our strongest nominee for them(Rudy)

Chakra Hammer on January 28, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Bryan, in order to save you and AP some labor, it might be simpler to list those issues upon which Obama is NOT doctrinaire leftwinger. I suspect that compiling such a list will take very little time and effort.

thirteen28 on January 28, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Here’s a tough one for you: On what policy (as opposed to rhetoric) is Sen Zero not a “doctrinaire leftwinger”? About the closest he comes to diverging from Kennedy/Harkin left-liberal doctrine is an apparent willingness to consider less than totally centralized, totally mandate-driven solutions on issues like health care reform.

All by itself, driver’s licenses for illegals probably is less likely even than support for live birth abortion to be a major voting issue on the presidential level, in my opinion, but defined as part of a larger pattern it can become more powerful, especially against a candidate whose larger strategy thusfar has amounted to leftist wolf in post-partisan lamb’s clothing.

Eventually, it becomes a character issue. He’s a smooth-talker, a flim-flam man. I could use more brutal terms, and, if our candidate does, it might backfire, but, if the woman’s vote goes up for grabs, it won’t require too brutal a campaign to sensitize them on this score. Hillary’s problem is that she’s been trying so hard to run to the left – even to the ridiculous extent of trying to get to his left on choice, something that hardly exists outside of China. A Republican wouldn’t have that problem.

CK MacLeod on January 28, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Hillary will just up the ante with $5000 for each “Worker” as they cross the border.

ronsfi on January 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Let’s review… blanket amnesty that puts lawbreakers on tax-payer funded welfare rolls and ahead of legal immigrants, rationalized by a reference to his polygamist Muslim father, that we’re not supposed to talk about, and his history as a community organizer in Chicago working for Communist activist Saul Alinsky, which we’re also not supposed to talk about.

DANEgerus on January 28, 2008 at 3:46 PM

But he wants to unite us – with millions of illegal Mexicans.

Vote Sauron 08 on January 28, 2008 at 3:52 PM

I would love to see Mitt and him in a debate. Talk about chewing someone up and spitting them out. Mitt, with his superior intellect and poise, would just shred him. Same way with Hillary.

cjs1943 on January 28, 2008 at 3:28 PM

I predict you will get your wish. I can’t wait either!

kcd on January 28, 2008 at 3:53 PM

thirteen28 beat me to it, but I’ll pile on anyway: Is there an issue where Obama is not a doctrinaire liberal?

Isn’t that the main reason that he’s unappealing to Republicans and Conservatives? If he were a doctrinaire conservative, we’d be clamoring for eight years of Messiah.

stivv on January 28, 2008 at 4:16 PM

What part of Illegal alien is America missing?

BL@KBIRD on January 28, 2008 at 4:17 PM

If only we would run a candidate who isn’t also weak on the issue of illegal immigration…Go Mitt!

davenp35 on January 28, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Finally. A workable chink in the messiah’s armor.

Numenorean on January 28, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Finally. A workable chink in the messiah’s armor.

Numenorean on January 28, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Oooooo, you can’t say that.

askheaves on January 28, 2008 at 4:50 PM

That Superman is a little too White and standing too tall.

I smell a Clinton.

Hening on January 28, 2008 at 5:12 PM

If only we would run a candidate who isn’t also weak on the issue of illegal immigration…Go Mitt!

davenp35 on January 28, 2008 at 4:24 PM

You really believe him? Seriously.. ?

Chakra Hammer on January 28, 2008 at 5:26 PM

You do the the outreach of the LDS in Mexico don’t you?

No Special Pathway? hmmmm..

I think lots of will be getting in, Just not Catholic ones..

Chakra Hammer on January 28, 2008 at 5:32 PM

DANEgerus, thanks for the interesting link.

Someone posted an Obama mini-history on another HA thread a few weeks ago. It was interesting if true; how his dad was a bigamist and how he (Obama) dallied with far left groups.

I can’t seem to find it… anyone know the link or similar?

Thanks in advance.

linlithgow on January 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM

This among other reasons is why I want BO to win the nomination. compared to hillary/Bill this guy is a light weight.

unseen on January 28, 2008 at 5:56 PM

Well, I have to say I’m all for driver’s licenses for illegals. This will allow them to board any aircraft with the same scrutiny “we the people” go through every time we fly. A few times doing that, they’ll all head back to where ever they came from!

24K lady on January 28, 2008 at 6:25 PM

If McCain is the candidate, that works very well for Obama, as they are both open borders guys. Rudy is too. At this point, that leaves Mittr. I didn’t want another dynasty politician, but what other choice is there?

PattyJ on January 28, 2008 at 6:28 PM

A doctrinaire left-winger? You mean, he’s actually worse than John McCain?

Ali-Bubba on January 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM

How nuanced of him!

I especially like the one guy clapping really loudly at every line.

viking999 on January 28, 2008 at 6:39 PM

Can someone tell me why these drivers’ licenses for illegals would be a bad idea? I see it as some way of documenting them. Without them, they have no insurance. Which is even worse. It’s not like they can open a bank account or something.

FLcapitalistthug on January 28, 2008 at 7:01 PM

A doctrinaire left-winger? You’re kidding. Just because he hasn’t voted anything but hard-left since he became senator? Doubters: look at his online senate record and prove me wrong.

Obama is an outright fake and liar. There’s nothing centrist about him. He’s worse that Clinton. Comparisons to JFK are risible.

ahem on January 28, 2008 at 7:03 PM

eh, we’ll see how super he is….

johnnyU on January 28, 2008 at 8:36 PM

What’s Barrys’ stance on islamic prayer in the White House and Senate? Will he have everybody, including all his illegal friends with drivers licenses, facing East 5 times a day praying for the defeat of the great Satan, like they now do in the Iowa and Texas Senate, after, er, if he becomes Pres?

countywolf on January 28, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Tim on January 28, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Absorb the second to last paragraph. Even liberals get burned and learn to run away from this issue.

Bryan on January 28, 2008 at 3:22 PM

This issue is virtually non-partisan. No other issue I bring up with my liberal friends gets them so pissed off as illegal immigration, and the polls show it, as Bryan so clearly stated it.

This kind of crap will blow up in Obambi’s face no matter what the MSM says.

Jaibones on January 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM