Video: McCain, Graham, Huckabee continue to smear Romney on Iraq
posted at 3:08 pm on January 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
I posted part of the old GMA interview in yesterday’s item on this but the video doesn’t have the full quote. Let’s remedy that now:
QUESTION: Iraq. John McCain is there in Baghdad right now. You have also been very vocal in supporting the president and the troop surge. Yet, the American public has lost faith in this war. Do you believe that there should be a timetable in withdrawing the troops?
MR. ROMNEY: Well, there’s no question but that — the president and Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn’t be for public pronouncement. You don’t want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you’re going to be gone. You want to have a series of things you want to see accomplished in terms of the strength of the Iraqi military and the Iraqi police, and the leadership of the Iraqi government.
QUESTION: So, private. You wouldn’t do it publicly? Because the president has said flat out that he will veto anything the Congress passes about a timetable for troop withdrawals. As president, would you do the same?
MR. ROMNEY: Well, of course. Can you imagine a setting where during the Second World War we said to the Germans, gee, if we haven’t reached the Rhine by this date, why, we’ll go home, or if we haven’t gotten this accomplished we’ll pull up and leave? You don’t publish that to your enemy, or they just simply lie in wait until that time. So, of course, you have to work together to create timetables and milestones, but you don’t do that with the opposition.
The whole point of this line of attack is to lump Romney in with the Democrats as quitters; the fact that he’s vowing here to veto any Democratic timetables puts the lie to it. Question for Maverick, then: What’s the problem with Bush and Maliki making up a schedule of things they’d like to see happen by certain dates, provided that a missed deadline doesn’t automatically trigger withdrawal? The objection to Democratic-style “tripwire” timetables is that they contemplate pulling out before our goals are achieved. Nowhere does Romney recommend that. He does allude to eventual withdrawal, but so what? Unless McCain’s suggesting that we should stay in Iraq forever even if we’re not needed, as some sort of lobotomized test of resolve, then what’s the harm in looking ahead to getting out? Accomplish the mission, then leave. Wake me when Romney says something that omits the first part of that statement.
Three clips for you, then. First and most boringly, McCain himself repeating this bogus charge on MTP this morning, replete with impressive index card. Does crack interviewer Tim Russert press him on a transparent distortion of Romney’s argument? Did he press him about Juan Hernandez? [Update: I'm having trouble getting the McCain clip to play. If you are too, click here and then click the little McCain thumbnail in the right sidebar. That seems to solve the problem.]
And here’s the stalking horse, clinging to life so that he can perform one last “good” deed by kneecapping Romney on Super Tuesday. You’ve never heard McCain be dishonest, Huck? Consult with your immigration guru on that.
Exit question: Remember Romney’s heavy-handed hints last year about pulling out and heading home in defeat if the benchmarks he proposed weren’t met? No? That’s because it wasn’t Romney.
U.S. Sen. John McCain, a Republican from Arizona, said on Saturday he was preparing a resolution setting a series of targets for the Iraqi government as a “last chance” effort to reverse U.S. failure…
“I cannot guarantee success but I can guarantee the consequences of failure,” said McCain, an outspoken member of the Senate Armed Services Committee who supports President George W. Bush’s plan to sent 21,500 troops to Iraq. “This is our last chance in many respects.”…
It would take three to six months after the deployment of the new troops, which is possible in May, to know whether the Iraqi government was making progress in meeting the benchmarks, McCain said.
“It’s taken us four years to get into this debacle and it’s going to take some time to get us out,” he said.
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So three pro-shamnesty RINOs that I can’t stand are smearing Mitt? It only makes him look better by comparison.
ReubenJCogburn on January 27, 2008 at 3:14 PM
“… imagine a setting where during the Second World War we said to the Germans, gee, if we havent reached the Rhine by this date, why, well go home …”
Imagine a Democrat Administration that DOESN’T do that! FDR would get up outta his wheelchair and kick Jon Cary’s azz.
Go Mitt!
Tony737 on January 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM
” Senator McCain and I disagree on some things like immigration and Human Life amendment, but I’ve never known Senator McCain to be dishonest,” Huckabee said to reporters, after a massive rally at Stamford University, outside of Birmingham.” Many things might be said about him but I would not attribute dishonesty to Senator McCain.”
Comments today From Huckmania while in Alabama. Thank you Huckster for showing some moral courage. That truly is vp material.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM
It’s like the guy behind the screen in the wizard of oz. Pay no attention to the facts – just keep listening to our lies and accept our word on it.
The scary thing is that this primary is at a crossroads. The McCain campaign has apparently decided to win Florida at all costs – including dignity and the truth. ButI’m afraid Romney might not have enough time to turn it around. Does he play the victim – or do another one of his hit-back ads? I don’t know – with just the two days to go – any decision is huge at this point.
darkegop on January 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM
OHHH!
Huck slams Romney for his “secret timetable” for withdrawal from iraq and Mccain for his failure to support a human life amendemnt!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM
Is it just me or are McCain and huckabee sounding and acting more and more like democrats every day?
Defector01 on January 27, 2008 at 3:17 PM
One can judge a man by his enemies.
jukin on January 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM
The only one missing from that circle of idiots is Arlen the Specter.
These clowns are truly painful to watch. Your comment “I know you are but what am I?” had me laughing out-loud. That video of Hannity and Graham should be doctored with that audio laid over the original. Too funny.
Zorro on January 27, 2008 at 3:20 PM
Romney’s adversaries are getting desperate. We will see on Tuesday whether their dirty tricks work or not.
WasatchMan on January 27, 2008 at 3:21 PM
” I have seen some of Governor Romney’s statements on withdrawal,” Huckabee said.” I’ve seen the actual quotes and he did support that secret withdrawal plan, and its documented in a number of accounts.”
More comments from the good pastor.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Ditto.
roux on January 27, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Huckabee said during that same interview, “I greatly respect the Clintons”
enough said.
lan astaslem on January 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Because in so many ways they share the same ideas.
but hey im just a nativist bigoted Nazi like Americans who needs to be told to shut up and accept shamnesty.
Mojack420 on January 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Romney supported pulling out of iraq when it was popular..and now he supports staying in iraq and winning now that it is popular.
He’s hoping we’ll all forget about his earlier statements.
There goes Romney again…blowing in the wind!
John KerryWillard Romney “I supported pulling out before I opposed it”HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM
Just more chicanery from McCainery.
Always Right on January 27, 2008 at 3:27 PM
I remember when I used to like Graham.
He gave such an eloquent, moving speech during the Clinton impeachment hearings. Now I think he’s just despicable!
I watched the H&C interview last night, and I thought Graham was obviously cherry picking and Hannity nailed him on it.
I too hope if McCain and his cronies keeps this up it will help Romney.
Conservaboomer on January 27, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Oh Harold…
dont forget
Kerry’sMcCainery’s “I voted against the Bush Tax Cuts before I voted for the Bush Tax Cuts” flip-floppery.Always Right on January 27, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Dude, support you statements with links or STHU.
lan astaslem on January 27, 2008 at 3:30 PM
He has come damn close to doing just that.
When McCain was asked if it would be OK to keep American troops in Iraq for fifty years he said, “Make it a hundred!“.
That’s about the worst thing for troop moral that I can conceive of.
If any Presidential candidate had said something like that during RVN he would have been political toast. If he had said something like that while touring RVN, he might not have even made it out of country in one piece.
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 3:34 PM
And I’m sure Romney’s timetable will remain secret. Romney tried to come up with a plan that brought the anti-war right into the fold without sacrificing a chance at winning in Iraq. I think they call that compromise if you’re voting for Romney, or triangulation if you’re voting someone else. Credit for trying, anyway.
RightOFLeft on January 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Its a ploy by the McCain camp to get the issue about Iraq on the table and the Economy off.
If Mitt bites into it rather than ignoring it he will have to take a stance on the war that will either be seen as too strong or too weak.
Its called pinning your opponent down on an issue.
William Amos on January 27, 2008 at 3:36 PM
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/26/mccain-romney-wanted-to-withdraw-from-iraq/
Read it and weep lan!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM
So the Iraq war is as bad as Veitnam you say ? Dont think that will sell
William Amos on January 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM
This dishonesty on the part of the McCain campaign is going to hurt hm more than he knows. It will give those who don’t want to see him become the republican nominee [myself included] a club in which to hammer him without themselves looking too petty.
coffee260 on January 27, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Dude, you truly are a useful idiot, that link proves the opposite. That was McCain with an out right lie, exposed by Allah. Try to keep up.
lan astaslem on January 27, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Selling isn’t everything, and I didn’t say it would sell, because you see during RVN a damn lot of guys went, but with Iraq it is basically the same relative handful of guys going over and over and over again while most Americans are out shopping.
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 3:44 PM
This just in Jimmy Carter Endorses ?????
William Amos on January 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM
lan,
No, watch the clip it proves that Romney said he wants a secret withdrawal date!
Your Romney support is bordering on insanity!
RomneyBigot is dead in the water! Not a chance of winning the general election…and not a chance of showing up with the lead come super tuesday!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Yes, but mainly because they are Democrats.
The (R) next to their names? Purely a decoy.
SuperCool on January 27, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Romney clearly states he supports a timetable, he just does not want it to be public, good luck with keeping anything private.
Agreeing to a timetable for withdrawl is SURRENDER, pure and simple and your arguments denying it are Clintonian.
And please don’t put Bush in there as a good example, he and Condi have basically turned into the reincarnation of Neville Chamberlain.
Good war leader say: When we Win unconditionally, then we can begin discussing the preparations for leaving and not until. Romney would be just as bad or worse than Pres Bush.
In Michigan Romney was paling around with Terrorist supporter Rep. Joe Knollenberg. What’s up with that???
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/01/mitt_happens_pr_1.html
McCain may be slighter better on the battle in Iraq, but he is no better as a war leader. McCain supports Bush and Condi in their support of the terrorist leader Abbas of the Fatah group. In fact it was previously the position of the US that the Arabs had to stop terrorism before there were discussions about a new (the 23rd) Arab state, but now Condi says they can continue terrorism and they still get a state. If I had to guess, both Romney and McCain would do the same: surrender to the terrorists just like Bush is doing.
Neither one of them is worth the esteem of the American people as real war leaders.
georgealbert on January 27, 2008 at 3:49 PM
I’ve concluded two things:
1. though Romney was quite non-committal about Iraq, McCain’s characterization of his position is unfair and dishonest.
2. Allahpundit characterizing these statements by McCain as hints opting for withdrawal …
… is the same smear, probably magnified. Though I guess that’s the point. sigh. God, I hope this is decided one way or another after Super Tuesday.
Though I suppose that if McCain is the nominee, the orgiastic Maverick-bashing will just kick into a new gear …
BillINDC on January 27, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Huckabee is the only candidate remaing who does not support a palestinian terror state!!
Mike Huckabee never supported timetables for surrender like Willard Romney did!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Beware the Bush/McCain/Crist/Hernandez/Soros/Martinez/RNC/Graham/Huckabee/NYT/etc. cabal…
Indeed. I know!!! And wait until they get the belated Santa ‘goodies’ from the stimulus package, more shopping, more ignorance, more voting for socialism. And, reminder to all, it was a bipartizan, quickly-agreed-upon package. Same with the loan bailout plan for the derelict institutions, and irrespeonsible/unaccountable buyers.
And you and I, the middle class, the not very rich/poor pay for it all, so that more sheeple vote for more of the same, while the politicians feed at the trough, no matter which isle they’re on, while preaching “change”, and “two Americas”, as they are definitely in the top 1% bracket, with a retirement system other than our Social Security one. Yes, like Heine said “…drink the water, while I drink the wine”.
This country needs a ‘revolution’, not with guns, with the voting pen – to throw the bums out, all of them, and start over. Alas, I don’t have much hope for that.
Entelechy on January 27, 2008 at 3:56 PM
Yes. Romney’s enemies are the Dhimmis and the RINOs. Time for all conservatives to back him and put an end to this.
Nosferightu on January 27, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Q: Would it be OK to keep American troops in Iraq for fifty years?
Juan McCain: Make it a hundred!
georgealbert: Make it forever!!!
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 3:58 PM
HaraldHardrada,
Exactly what do you think you’re accomplishing? I mean, do you think we’re going to miss the reality here?
I’m sure you don’t think that. No, you’re doing it to taunt and bait a fight. Don’t you have anything more worthwhile to do with your time? Don’t you think WE have better things to do with OUR time?
No need to answer back. I sure won’t. Better things to do, you know?
TheGoblinKing on January 27, 2008 at 4:03 PM
OK people. Can we all agree to just ignore HaraldHardrada. He doesn’t add anything to the conversation evah. Don’t acknowledge him or reply to any of his idioitic statements.
Thanks.
cjs1943 on January 27, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Howard Baker is now onboard with Mac. I’m glad because he has recount experience and he’s one for one. Just another set of eyes to keep a look out for Rommnee checkbook influence. Since Baker was leading Fred’s charge, does that mean the Kentucky Fried Ronald Reagan is about to give him endorsement to Mav?
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 4:05 PM
If Mitt is for pulling out then he should have the courage to say so. His silence on the subject is troubling. Id respect him more even if he said he was leaving than I do for him staying silent on the subject.
William Amos on January 27, 2008 at 4:06 PM
I know the gutter and I know the stink of the street
Kicked like a dog, I have spat out the bile of defeat
All those wine drinkers who lorded above me
You who gave me the smack of your rod
Now I give you the gutter
I give you the judgment of God!
bl??????_percy@yahoo.com
Percy on January 27, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Gramnesty : “I know what he said ”
Hannity: ” I am reading it right here and thats not what he said ”
Gramnesty: “Shut up you bigot”
Mojack420 on January 27, 2008 at 4:09 PM
I wish we in SC could clone Jim DeMint and run him against Lindsay Grahamnesty to punt him outta office.
Of course, if he keeps this up, Strom Thurmond will rise from the grave to avenge his former Senate seat by beating the tar outta Graham and shagging his wife afterwards.
Personally, a number of us secretly think Strom is really just sleeping for a bit before he comes back and runs the state again. Wouldn’t surprise me.
TheGoblinKing on January 27, 2008 at 4:10 PM
this will cost mccain dearly at the polls. there is already a massive backlash. even the lib msm is trashing mccain for the smear. it has pierced his veneer of straight talk.
he impaled himself. mortally.
prediction: mitt by 8%
reliapundit on January 27, 2008 at 4:10 PM
One thing worries me here: McCain has clearly stepped on his own **** and continues to do so. This is being pointed out gleefully by one and all conservatives.
Does everyone not care that, if the worst happens and McCain gets the nomination, the MSM will gleefully pounce on every attack on him from the Right? Their support seems predicated on the Dem nominee’s being able to whup him in November.
Time and bandwidth might be better spent doing the (probably futile) right thing, which is to keep the pressure on The Hildebeest and Osama Obama for their inconsistencies, lies and doomed-to-failure “policies.”
And, though I hate to say it because I find him far more flawed than either Thompson or Hunter, supporting Mutt Romney.
MrScribbler on January 27, 2008 at 4:10 PM
OH. The Romneybots don’t like it when I expose their cult leader as the fraud and liar that he is!!
Maybe Romney can cry on TV again and I’ll be nicer to him!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Just goes to show how little one can buy for twelve bucks an hour anymore. Why, I remember when that kind of money could buy some competence,..now it just gets Harald types.
a capella on January 27, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Post the video of Romney asking Wolf Blitzer today were 20 years of McCain “Leadership” has gotten us?
Classic good humored Romney take down of McCain.
EJDolbow on January 27, 2008 at 4:16 PM
Why are people so disgusting and nasty? It must be a real chore to live with you.
God, I feel sorry for any poor souls who have to be around you all the time.
EJDolbow on January 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM
I’m trying to watch the news, I’m trying to follow the candidates, I’m trying to keep up, but the way this crap is evolving is so disgusting that I feel compelled to comment.
Unfortunately, if I really post what I’m thinking, or how this crap is making me feel, then stone faced men dress in black will kick in my front door, take my computers, and put my life under a microscope, while asking me question after question about everything I’ve done since I was born.
So I’m thinking, ya’ll are on your own with this.
rockhauler on January 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM
I think the only people that bought into that veneer have been the MSM anyway.
liquidflorian on January 27, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Romney: “I marched with MLK jr. and my dad”. “Well actuallly I’m lying about that”.
But…..
“I saw my dad marching with MLK jr”…. “Well actually I’m lying about that too”.
“Well, Just watch me cry when I talk about hearing that a black person being allowed into the mormon church then”!
“It’s not like I’m lying about something repeatedly..trying to cover up a sinister fact about the mormon church that makes me unelectable”.
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM
McCain’s characterization is accurate. Romney supports a timetable for withdrawal. When asked point blank if he supported a timetable for withdrawal, Romney said yes. Actually, he said, “well, of course,” then triangulated his way to a plan that gives the anti-war voters their timetable with assurances to the pro-war voters that the timetable would be his and Maliki’s little secret. It’s not exactly like the democratic plan, in theory, but it’s comparable – maybe identical – in practice. So I think it’s fair to point out the obvious comparison.
Not related to anything in your post -
Realistically, timetable or not, none of the serious Republican candidates is getting us out of Iraq unless we have some confidence in the state’s continued stability or troop morale plummets to the point that we’re facing mass desertion and protests at home. Judging by the Democrats’ failure to take any action that might have ended the war during their tenure as the majority party in congress, you could probably say the same for the Democrats. All the talk of timetables is just pie-in-the-sky pandering to the anti-war constituency. In that sense, it’s unfair for any of the candidates to suggest that his opponent is going to surrender in Iraq.
RightOFLeft on January 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Why is exposing an obvious and typical fence rider like Romney called A SMEAR????? When Mac said surge, Romley said I’ll get back to you. Huge difference. One is leading the other testing the waters.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM
McCain’s dishonesty is so transparent that the most disconcerting thing is how Graham and others abandon their integrity to stand behind it. I haven’t voted Democratic since Carter, but between McCain and Obama, I’ll take the honest Democrat. You always have to watch out for the guy who’s saying, “I’m the one who won’t lie to you.” It’s just an iteration of the big lie. Tell it often enough and stupid people will believe it. Anybody who can support McCain either doesn’t understand integrity or was in the wrong line when they passed out brains.
Alma on January 27, 2008 at 4:25 PM
LOL! Mubarak Hussein Obama a honest democrat?? You must be out of your mind!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 4:26 PM
McCain, on the other hand, withdrew from the U.S. border.
And hopefully his candidacy goes down in flames in Florida.
Romney-Rudy 2008.
profitsbeard on January 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Rudy will drop and endorse Mac by Friday, get real.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM
No, this is what Mitt said.
a capella on January 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Ah, the truth comes out. Harald really doesn’t like Romney because he’s a Mormon…with sinister facts that make him unelectable. Booga! Booga!
drflykilla on January 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM
If you think it is a smart idea to nominate him and let the left go wild about this…then I’d say go ahead and vote for him then!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Anyone who wasn’t born yesterday – or re-born recently as a Mitt shill – knows that Mitt has all along been seeking a position just a notch to the left of McCain on Iraq. In the context in which the GMA and other comments were uttered, they were clearly offered and taken as tactically ambiguous – providing Mitt with wiggle room in case the surge went south. It was the same at other key points up to and including the rather ridiculous “apparently working” debate exchange prior to Petraeus’ September testimony. I’d guess that, somewhere amidst the incessant defeatist drumbeat of “endgame” posts, the HotAir archives of the time will reveal discussion of Mitt’s obvious positioning.
Is there
anyone at HotAira single Mitt supporter out there who can claim with a straight face that, if the surge had gone badly and the party and electorate had moved further against the policy, that Mitt and his campaign wouldn’t be mining many of these exact same comments for “proof” that he had “always” favored a different approach?CK MacLeod on January 27, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Noted. I still think “establishing timetables with the Iraqi government” is more nuanced than McCain’s statement that Romney advocated withdrawal, but you’ll get no argument from me about Romney shifting with the breeze. To no small extent its rational in a candidate, if not completely admirable.
BillINDC on January 27, 2008 at 4:40 PM
HaraldHardrada, do you think the honest, kind, gentle, loveable and sincere Rev Huck you like to have mean spirited people to chant his name and cause all the time? I think you do the Rev Huck a disservice.
I wonder after the primary season if you will have anything to say. I am sure it will all be if Huck was in the house this wouldn’t be happening.
You link to Mitts own words prove that McCain is spinning. There should be milestones and benchmarks of what our two governments want to accomplish. We shouldn’t be wandering around there with no goals. At the same time the game plan shouldn’t be given to the enemy.
USBB on January 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Senator McCain. Shamnesty. Lindsay Whiner-Graham.
John-boy ain’t getting my vote.
Sorry John-boy but your POW status can only carry you so far.
Montana on January 27, 2008 at 4:43 PM
For the CHOSEN ONE, HH, and any other shilling troll who has defiled the underside of a bridge:
1st definition of the word lie:
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
It’s a single syllable word which you should have picked up in Pre-K or Sunday School. McCain and the Pastor are lying plain and simple. This is proven by a simple reading of the transcript posted by AP above in this post. Secondly, the timing of McCain’s release, also only exacerbates the lie. It shows motive and intention. This is unbecoming of a Senator. It is also unbecoming of a Reverend (Mr. Huckabee.) I guess, Harald, we finally found something Huck sells his soul for: VP?
Nice civil campaigning from the “moral” right.
Cold Steel on January 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Oops, should have quoted the “no question” part. Would you agree that Romney is supporting a timetable, though? This distinction between public and private is meaningless in practical terms. How much do you trust the Maliki administration to keep any hard dates for withdrawal to themselves? For that matter, how much do you trust any of the possible American administrations to keep mum?
RightOFLeft on January 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Has McCain dropped out yet?
Zorro on January 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM
McCain knows that all operations have objectives… he did command a squadron right? Last time I checked, our process is not run by a junta. We have civilian control of the military. That military has a chain of command, a leadership. A chain of command establishes goals, objectives, methodologies, and dare I say… benchmarks. Romney stated the obvious in this. McCain is intentionally lying. He resorts to it when the straight talk express goes off the tracks.
Cold Steel on January 27, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Look Romney lied twice about marching with and/or seeing his dad march with MLK jr.!
Then he said he cried when he first heard (less than 30 years ago)that black people were allowed into the mormon church….They weren’t allowed because the mormon church says that black people are black because they are cursed by God!! I don’t know about you but I find that extremely offensive!! I certainly would not want a bigot rascist president like that!
Besides that fact: 20% of the republican party at a minimun will not vote for Romney under any circumstances!!
You know what that means…it means he’s unelectable!!
The cold hard truth comes out……Face it!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 4:51 PM
On another note, as unpopular as Graham is, I can’t believe no one is running against him from either party.
USBB on January 27, 2008 at 4:53 PM
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 4:51 PM
All I can face is your inflation of HA’s comment count. You obviously consult your random Mitt-hate generator and you spew out whatever is remotely coherent. You offer nothing substantive. Exclamation points, boldface, random links, and all caps do not compensate for reasoned debate.
Cold Steel on January 27, 2008 at 4:55 PM
It’s good to see that some of you are so “outraged” at Mac playin’ a little hardball. I don’t remember this much anger when the Bushies said Mac fathered a black child in South Carolina back in 00′. Get some.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 4:55 PM
I notice there’s no direct rebuttal to that statement.
Because there’s nothing you can say about that because it’s the truth….instead you’ll attack the messenger.
Let it sink in and wish you wouldn’t have wasted that money on Willard Milton’s failed campaign!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 4:59 PM
I guess I’m getting hung up on the word “timetable,” which has some pretty specific implications, one of which is an eventual deadline for withdrawal. It’s entirely possible Romney had a more flexible plan in mind which tied the war effort to benchmarks and projected outcomes rather than politically convenient deadlines. Politics being what it is, it’d be no surprise if McCain and Romney are both being dishonest.
RightOFLeft on January 27, 2008 at 5:00 PM
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Show proof it was the Bush group, genius. What doomed Mac was what is dooming him now. He gets knocked off track (off his meds) and he starts loosey goosey with facts. It then degenerates into character assassination. In 2000 Michael Reagan demanded Juan apologize. Now Bill Bennett is asking Juan to do it again. Way to interview for the top job hot head.
Cold Steel on January 27, 2008 at 5:00 PM
I orginally wanted Mac to throw Mitt a bone like Ambassador to Malta. After reconsidering, I don’t think he’s qualified.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 5:01 PM
RightOFLeft on January 27, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Nice try: throw mud on both so you’re comfortable not making a distinction. Where is Romney lying in the short interview on GMA? McCain’s lying is apparent. Unless your divining Romney’s thoughts, which is much like John Edwards divining the unborn in court, you cannot state he is lying.
Cold Steel on January 27, 2008 at 5:03 PM
HH, when you say that Mitt cried when he heard blacks were allowed to become priests, you realize he was crying with hapiness, right? It seems you think that he was crying with sorrow.
Alos, how is Mitt racist? If you recall, he’s the only candidate who’s done serious campaigning in the inner cities.
doodleduh on January 27, 2008 at 5:10 PM
Did anyone see Mitt with the black youths last week and he did the “who let the dogs out” thing. Is that the “Serious Campaigning” your referring to.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Look who else is looking at benchmarks….
man the internet bites, doesn’t it Juan..
Cold Steel on January 27, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Ahh.. I’ve been saving that little gem for a while.
Today is the day we can all officially recognize as the day Romney’s campaign died!!
Good Bye Romney and good riddance!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Um, TCO, that was one clip out of hours of campaigning. He’s the only one who’s done major campaigning there. Mitt isn’t racist.
doodleduh on January 27, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Good bye Romney.. Farewell in retirement.. the republican party does not need racism attached to it! Good riddance!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Smears matter now, I guess.
Connie on January 27, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Mike Huckabee: Gomer Pyle
Lindsey Graham: Goober Pyle
I think I’ll go give Mitt some more of my money.
D2Boston on January 27, 2008 at 5:16 PM
HH, you’re just a bit ignorant, aren’t you?
I wonder which has more racists- The Mormon church or the Southern Baptist churches?
doodleduh on January 27, 2008 at 5:17 PM
HH, why is today the day we recognize Mitt’s demise? Did he fall in the polls or something?
doodleduh on January 27, 2008 at 5:18 PM
The mormon church…that is an easy one. Next!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 5:18 PM
I’ll bet Mac get the Scwarzenegger endorsement just before super duper teusday to take Cali and AAAArnold becomes Secretary of State. How cool would that be!!! The terminator jett settin’ around the globe starin’ down likes of Putey, Hugo, Kim Jong, AChniei9scndenejead and the rest of the chumps.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 5:20 PM
It’s exactly the behavior and beliefs of the Commies/Clintons. No wonder Bill says the two are such good friends. Maybe McCain’s time in Hanoi was spent doing a little brainwashing. A Manchurian Candidate all the way.
McCain…I’m ready to say it: You believe in open borders, you don’t believe in America. You sir, are a traitor.
mksmithwriter on January 27, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Thank God the southern baptist church has no racist dogma written in it’s scripture.
The message of Christ is for all races!
No race is any better than any other!
All men are equal in God’s sight!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 5:21 PM
So true! Spot on. Besides being a goober, Lindsey’s what we called in our neighborhood a “pussy.”
mksmithwriter on January 27, 2008 at 5:21 PM
HH, GAH! Just tell me right now- How is Romney racist? Give me a time and place where he commited a racist act.
Also, mksmithwriter, McCain’s not a traitor. It’s rude to say so. I don’t like McCain, but he was not brainwashed and he loves America. Don’t engage in the hatred of the left.
doodleduh on January 27, 2008 at 5:23 PM
For anyone with an honest desire to find more information
Check this out….
Light Planet
It’s not official church response, but it does have some interesting information on the subject.
Cold Steel on January 27, 2008 at 5:24 PM
I think Romney’s secret timetable play is possibly dishonest in and of itself. Since it’s supposedly secret, he’s not accountable to the anti-war voters he’s appealing to with the plan. They’ll never know if he doesn’t implement his timetable. They’ll know if he does implement it, though. Everybody will – us, the Iraqis, and the insurgents – and Romney should know that. He’s either being very naive in not recognizing the comparison between his timetable and the Democrats’ timetable, or he’s being very disingenious in not admitting it.
To put the question back to you, can you divine McCain’s thoughts? It’s entirely possible McCain honestly believes Romney supports a withdrawal date, given Romney’s statements in the GMA interview. It’s also entirely possible McCain isn’t misunderstanding Romney’s position at all.
FWIW, in the context of both candidates prior, stated views on the war, I think Romney’s doing a fine job of backpedaling and McCain has a point.
RightOFLeft on January 27, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Here you go folks:
Mac-pres
Lindsey-vp
Schwarzenegger- Sec. State
Schwarzkopf-Sec. Defense
Richard Burr-Attorney General
Huckabee-Fish and Wildlife
Curt Schilling-Health and Human Services
Lieberman-Agriculture
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 5:26 PM
I’m certainly not happy with the Governator now due to his new socialist medicine plan and his shutting down prisons and releasing tens of thousands of violent criminals to pay for it…But it would be priceless to see Ahnold stare down Putey and ahmadingdong!!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Harald
focus on the Q and A from the site starting with “Are Mormons Racist?” It blunts your vitriol.
Cold Steel on January 27, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Nice thread hijacking, dude. Seriously, not too many trolls can pull that one off.
RightOFLeft on January 27, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Huckabee-Fish and Wildlife
What??
It’s either POTUS,VP or a thid party bid for Huckmania.
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 5:28 PM
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