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Open thread: South Carolina results; Exit polls: Obama wins 81-17 among blacks? Update: Fox calls it for Obama; Update: Backlash against Billy Jeff? Update: Wow — 61% of Dem voters are women; Update: Obama wins by 28%

posted at 6:07 pm on January 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
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A Hillary loss is a Hillary win, says the smart set, so long as the result can be spun as racially dictated and Obama consequently “ghettoized” (in Kaus’s phrase) as the black candidate. If the predicted outcome happens and the Messiah wins big, expect a blast of counterspin from his team right out of the gate focusing on his or, if need be, even Silky’s share of the white vote at Hillary’s expense. Any data that undermines the racial narrative works to his advantage. I can’t see him losing, but his lead is so big that if Hillary just makes it close it’ll complicate the media narrative tomorrow. For that reason her team’s probably going all out on GOTV even though the state seems a lost cause — and in fact, there are already reports of record turnout. Note this too from the exit polls:

Nearly six in 10 of those voting said former President Clinton’s campaigning in the state was an important factor for them, including a quarter who called it very important.

So Billy Jeff motivated people to go vote. Which way does that cut for Hillary? This way? If so, it’ll be a delicious subplot to an unfortunately racially polarized race — blacks turning out en masse to vent their anger at the first “black” president.

The polls close at 7 p.m.; follow the returns at CNN or at the state party site. Next up after this: Florida, where there are zero delegates at stake (the DNC stripped them after the state broke party rules by moving up its primary) but which Hillary’s suddenly keenly interested in, partly to stop the buzz-bleeding if Obama wins here tonight and partly because she thinks she can get those delegates reinstated after the fact with a show of Clintonian muscle that’s so endeared her to the left these days.

Update: Watch as the master takes a question that’s not about race at all and twists it, with Huckabeean faux innocence, to his advantage.

Another reporter asked what it said about Obama that it “took two people to beat him.” Clinton again passed. “That’s’ just bait, too. Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice, in ‘84 and ‘88. And he ran a good campaign. Senator Obama’s run a good campaign here, he’s run a good campaign everywhere.”

The reference to Jackson seemed a way to downplay today’s result in a state where a majority of voters are African American.

Update: Hmmm. Heavy turnout among blacks — and women.

Update: The good news for Obama? Looks like an easy win. The bad news? The narrative is already being set in stone:

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The margin was actually even higher among black women, 82-17. Although here’s a bit of post-racial spin for Team Messiah: Silky does indeed appear to have beaten the “white candidate” among whites.

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Update: Does the “Silky beat Hillary among whites” line really do much for Obama, though? People are just going to add up their totals, call that “the white vote,” and push the racial narrative anyway. This goes back to yesterday’s post as an example of Edwards potentially killing Obama by staying in the race and drawing off liberals’ votes. If it’s true that Silky’s white supporters in South Carolina would have broken for Obama for ideological reasons then he’s inadvertently helped buttress the racial storyline by staying in.

Update: No surprise — Obama wins, says Fox, with Hillary only slightly ahead of Edwards. Here’s the spin Team Messiah was hoping for: Obama wins almost half of the white vote under 30. And needless to say, a third-place Hillary washout helps douse the flames of the racial plot. The big loser: Clenis.

Update: “Black women turned out in particularly large numbers.”

Update: Think this strategy will be revisited in the coming days? Maybe it’s time for Billy Jeff to drop out of the race.

Update: Awesome.

Roughly 6 in 10 South Carolina Democratic primary voters said Bill Clinton’s campaigning was important in how they ultimately decided to vote, and of those voters, 47 percent went for Barack Obama while only 38 percent went for Hillary Clinton. Fourteen percent of those voters voted for John Edwards.

Meanwhile, the exit polls also indicate Obama easily beat Clinton among those voters who decided in the last three days — when news reports heavily covered the former president’s heightened criticisms of Obama. Twenty percent of South Carolina Democrats made their decision in the last three days and 57 percent of them chose Obama, while only 18 percent picked Clinton.

Update: Obama crushed her even with a lopsided 61/39 skew towards women. Impressive.

Update: The polls had him ahead by low double digits. With 98% reporting, CNN says he’s up by 28%. Good lord.


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If Hillary wins a “racially charged” primary campaign, what happens to the black voter turnout come November?

What if obama wins but hillarys strategy kind of works? White democrats voting republican? Even more reason that we don’t nominate the wrong guy.
peacenprosperity on January 26, 2008 at 9:21 PM

Actually, I’ve always operated under the assumption that Hillary will win by hook or by crook. But, OK, I’ll play.

If some black voters decided to (in Hillary’s words) “leave the plantation” she’d be wounded, but still strong enough to beat any moderate Republican.

On the other hand; if a black candidate ran a racist primary campaign (Hell, even if he just ran on a three-word, “Kill all the whities!” platform) the pasty-faced moonbats would turn out in droves to finally put down their bongs long enough to vote.

But look at Obama’s numbers among elderly Democrats. They’re scared to death of the guy. And losing that voting block is the end of the road.

logis on January 26, 2008 at 9:56 PM

Obama says the most diverse group of voters. Counter Move.

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 9:10 PM

Hillary’s speech just now in Tennessee: “I’m so glad to have such a diverse group.”

Must be contagious. heh

IrishEi on January 26, 2008 at 9:57 PM

petefrt on January 26, 2008 at 9:28 PM

Heh. Sorry bad placement, that wasn’t aimed at you! :)

fourstringfuror on January 26, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Yeah, I follow. I’m just saying that is an example of where KP was right and that plays into the legitimate start of the whole race card in Dem party.

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 9:57 PM

Hillary’s speech just now in Tennessee: “I’m so glad to have such a diverse group.”

Must be contagious. heh

IrishEi on January 26, 2008 at 9:57 PM

Haha. I just walked back in and saw that on TV. I actually laughed. I mean, so Hillary. [Sticks finger in air.] ‘Hm…BO’s speech was good, I’ll plagiarize it!’

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 9:59 PM

Edwards is not going anywhere. He’s aiming for the VP slot.

logis on January 26, 2008 at 9:07 PM

And if he bets wrong by staying in?

steveegg on January 26, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Spittle Rivera is talking with Al “the hustler” Sharpton on FNC. Talk about your donkey party…

Zorro on January 26, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Edwards is not going anywhere. He’s aiming for the VP slot.
logis on January 26, 2008 at 9:07 PM

And if he bets wrong by staying in?
steveegg on January 26, 2008 at 10:00 PM

What do you mean, if Edwards accidentally won the nomination?

Well, then I guess he’d be screwed. He’d have to either pick Hillary as his VP – or pick someone else. The first is physical suicide; and the second is political suicide.

logis on January 26, 2008 at 10:09 PM

For anyone who missed it, Obama’s speech is here.

As one who’s written a few speeches in days past, I’d sure like to know who writes his stuff. It is exceptional. Delivered well too, of course. When it comes to speeches, he leaves Billary behind in the dust.

petefrt on January 26, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Determined to reconnect with her base and regain momentum, HRC is at this moment arranging a whirlwind 9-day, 22-state blubbering tour.

Rico on January 26, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Determined to reconnect with her base and regain momentum, HRC is at this moment arranging a whirlwind 9-day, 22-state blubbering tour.

Rico on January 26, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Will she be taking a commercial airliner, or her private, enviro-friendly broomstick?

petefrt on January 26, 2008 at 10:14 PM

So Clenis turns off voters at a 6:4 ratio………….sounds about right.

omnipotent on January 26, 2008 at 10:20 PM

So I guess I’m saying: Mitt Romney is the real winner today.

billy on January 26, 2008 at 7:45 PM

Hugh Hewitt?

terryannonline on January 26, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Will she be taking a commercial airliner, or her private, enviro-friendly broomstick?

petefrt on January 26, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Unknown, but (as previously), the tears will be 100% carbon-neutral and fake.

Rico on January 26, 2008 at 10:25 PM

I got my campaign contributions from Norman Hsu
He gave me money that I sure could use
People love it when I lose,
They love my dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been suing a McDonalds, but I married up
I just have to look good compared to the rest, I dont have to be clear
Come and whisper dirty tricks in my ear
See my dirty laundry

See me when Im up
See me when Im down
See me when Im up
See me when Im down
Sock it to that uppity Black man, Bill!!!
See me when Im up
See me go round and round

We got the silky-pony who
Comes on all poor like
He can tell you bout channeling the dead with a gleam
In his eye
Its interesting when people die-
See his dirty laundry

Can we trash Obama yet?
You know, the boys in my campaign got a
Running bet
Got the dirt on him all set!
I love others dirty laundry

You dont really need to know whats going on
You dont really want to know just how far Ive gone
Just leave me well enough alone
Eat my dirty laundry

See me when Im up
See me when Im down
Sock it to that uppity Black man again, Bill!!!
See me when Im up
See me when Im down
You better take him out Bill if you want me to keep lettin’ you sleep all around!

See me when Im up
See me when Im down
See me when Im stiff
See me when Im talkin southern black all around

My dirty little secrets
My dirty little lies
Ive got my dirty little fingers in everybodys pie
I love to cut em down to size
I love dirty laundry

I can do the innuendo
I can pounce and I can sting
When its all said and done I havent told you a thing
You all know that my crap is king
Give me dirty laundry!
- Hillary Rodham Henley

MB4 on January 26, 2008 at 10:25 PM

Obama wins by 28%

Chin up, Hil. Here, have a cigar.

The same cigar? Why yes, of course. If it bothers you, then don’t inhale.

petefrt on January 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM

The trouble is all these Obama votes will go to Hillary in the general. Big woop!

Mojave Mark on January 26, 2008 at 10:36 PM

Well, to be honest, I surely hope that Obama does not get the nomination. I remember a post here ( not sure if it was form Bryan,Allah or Seedub) that expressed exactly what I was feeling at the time.
Mr Obama takes a presence behind a podium and on stage that rivals both RWR and JFK.

In today’s dumbed down electorate, we do not need a power speaker to be against. I truly believe that some moderates would be wooed by his speech skills. Call me insane, but I am being honest about this. The so called dumbed down voter (Thanx to the NEA) is more about ‘bling’ and less about substance.

lsutiger on January 26, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Well, as a person of the opposite RACE than him, I’ll put the question out there. How black is he? When a white person runs, we have to go back to the persons prejudice history. Well? The shoe is on the other foot now. How does Obama look at whites? and dont give me that “there’s no color” crap. Blacks are voting black. Women are voting for women just because of the sex and so on. Raised on a “be diverse or face the consequences” mentality since the 60’s, what’s Obamas stand on fellow blacks caught in the struggle still and soforth. Hey anyone who can knock the Clintons out of the race just may get my vote.

johnnyU on January 26, 2008 at 10:40 PM

This is beautiful. Not because Massah Clinton is losing but HOW they are losing. All those nut jobs out there who righteously declared there would be a race war appears to have been spot on….but this is in the Democrat party. You have the Big House Democrats versus the story book “clean, articulate” Senator from Illinois who has gone way off the Plantation.

Clinton’s are showing their real colors along with their bought and paid for “racial activist” constituency.

On the one hand it pains me to see this happen because, while I can’t think of a single thing I agree with Obama on, the race should be about the issues that are important to Democrats…however twisted they are. On the other hand, I’m thoroughly enjoying watching the Clintons and their wing of the Democrat party slowly and painfully twist in their own hand made noose.

Senator Obama is the class of the Democrats right now and it’s just killing them. He is an excellent representative of their ideas, he wears the “presidential” mantel well, and has done a reasonable job of staying above the racial fray even while Mr. Clinton is struggling to keep is hood OFF…I suspect that will change before this is all over however.

hehehe…this should raise some fire from our Big House Dem friends…

Pilgrim on January 26, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Looks like Bill Clintons “Fairy Tale”
turned into a “Nightmare on Elm Street”
horror story!

canopfor on January 26, 2008 at 11:01 PM

To all of you Obama doubters I say:

Obama is the liberal Reagan.

I really don’t think he can be shrugged off as easily as you suggest.

Listen to his speeches, take a look at his awesome website.

I know his ideas are crazy. I know they don’t work…I know.

But to write him off as “the black candidate” or as BJ has as, “just like Jesse Jackson” is totally wrong.

He is a great politician.

Dorvillian on January 26, 2008 at 11:04 PM

He is a great politician.

Dorvillian on January 26, 2008 at 11:04 PM

That is a fact my friend. However, for him to win he MUST have a clear delegate win. If this thing is brokered or some other form of Convention shenanigans the Clinton Machine will buy their way in. He really has to be careful how he works this. If he continues to win like this through the South he just might get the bump he needs to win the big EC states.

Frankly, I hope he wins and think he has a very good shot at it.

Pilgrim on January 26, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Isn’t it nice to finally see the Clintons receive their due?

After never having to accept responsibility for their abhorrent actions, this must be a shock that they are being rejected in such massive numbers.

SimplyKimberly on January 26, 2008 at 11:12 PM

After never having to accept responsibility for their abhorrent actions, this must be a shock that they are being rejected in such massive numbers.
SimplyKimberly on January 26, 2008 at 11:12 PM

It’s like being a mob boss. Their power doesn’t come from leadership; it comes from fear and awe. Unfortunately, that’s always a deceptively tenuous deception. If you let it slip away, it can blow up in your face.

That’s why the Clintons are so unpredictable: when the going gets tough, the Clintons don’t become resolute – they become desperate.

logis on January 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM

How does Obama look at whites? and dont give me that “there’s no color” crap. Blacks are voting black. Women are voting for women just because of the sex and so on. Raised on a “be diverse or face the consequences” mentality since the 60’s, what’s Obamas stand on fellow blacks caught in the struggle still and soforth. Hey anyone who can knock the Clintons out of the race just may get my vote.

johnnyU on January 26, 2008 at 10:40 PM

What an odd question. His mother is white. His Dad is black.Hillary was the one who really injected the racial aspect.

Bradky on January 27, 2008 at 1:21 AM

Go OHB!

Fred is still on the right (look over there>>>)

I went shopping today at 10 different stores in Mesa/Phoenix today and AZ is de facto Mexico.

It’s over, adapt or die.
Sorry! I’m a cowboy type myself.

AZCON on January 27, 2008 at 1:54 AM

Go-bama!

mattyj86 on January 27, 2008 at 3:44 AM

As a life long resident of Tennessee I have to say it is really strange having Hillary visit the state. I am not sure if she has EVER been here. I am feeling violated about right now, and not in a biblical sense.

JonRoss on January 27, 2008 at 6:36 AM

Hey Hillary…better put some ice on that…

sabbott on January 27, 2008 at 6:37 AM

Well, they say Bill CLinton was the first black president. No? Bill is screwing Hillary up royally, so I’m just watching her go down in flames. Being President isnt something you hire someone to get for you. Getting Bill’s advisors in there isnt going to cut it this time. People have experienced the CLinton phenomenon for 8 years and have learned a valuable lesson. Sure China wants her to win and about 200 kids who need braces, but thats about it. This is a new century and the future has arrived. Hillary isnt going to lead us through anything.

johnnyU on January 27, 2008 at 9:53 AM

I’m thinking that after she polarizes the blacks to beat Obama, she’ll have to run him as VP to win them back (Rush’s view on this notwithstanding). She’ll never win in November without them.

Another consequence of her racial strategy may be coincidental alienation of the Hispanic constituency, since Hispanics tend not to vote for African-Americans, and polarizing the races would seem to reinforce such a pattern.

Live by the race card, die by the race card. Heh.

petefrt on January 27, 2008 at 10:26 AM

If this trend keeps up we really will have the first black muslim President, because he will probably beat wacko McCain head to head.

countywolf on January 27, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Somewhere out there a smart looking pantsuit has been soiled.

Chuck Schick on January 27, 2008 at 12:13 PM

If this trend keeps up we really will have the first black muslim President, because he will probably beat wacko McCain head to head.

countywolf on January 27, 2008 at 11:36 AM

He is Christian and you are providing a good example of how the GOP supporters can ensure an Obama win if he is the nominee.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/26/politics/main3755521.shtml
E-mails have surfaced, some traced to Clinton campaign

volunteers in Iowa, claiming that Obama is a Muslim. Former Senator Bob Kerrey, on the day he announced his support for

Clinton, made sure to make a point about how wonderful he thought it was that Obama’s middle name is Hussein. A radio ad in South Carolina sought to portray Obama as a fan of Republican policies in the 1990s.

The candidate herself contributed to the furor when she intimated that while Martin Luther King Jr. was a wonderful leader, it took President Johnson to make the Civil Rights Act a reality.

Bradky on January 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Everyone should stick to attacking Obama for legally representing the Eastern European Mob interests that augment the crooked ghetto manipulation of power. The Clintons are just angry that their source to the Eastern European Mob pre-empted to Obama for his overt loyalty to that mob as opposed to his own people. But there it is, who exactly are Obama’s own people as his power originates not from his power base of black American and bleeding-heart liberal white votes. Obama’s power originates from his allegiance to the Eastern European Mob who have every intention of further enslaving the ignorant blacks from every social class with whatever promises garner their votes that are relinquished with vain hopes of self promotion, aka “empowerment”.

Given that frame of reference, one would be influenced to vote Romney over McCain. They’re all bought. McCain is bought by the same machine promoting Obama, though internationally based South of our border in Mexico. At least one would THINK that Romney’s Mormon machine, global as it is, still headquarters in the cross-roads of the Great American West. However, given the Mormon colonization of Northern Mexico, one needs to study that current international position, as the Mormon Mexican Colonies stay under the radar with their bi-national citizenship and business interests. There is no current candidate standing for US sovereignty. Some wear their ulterior allegiance more overtly; that does not make them “worse” or more dangerous than the cloak and dagger RINO candidates postulating patriotism while establishing the government bureaucracy that will continue beyond initial “intent” to bulldoze any remnant of conservatism each subsequent election as Democrats trade turns with Republicans In Name Only.

maverick muse on January 27, 2008 at 1:57 PM

E-mails have surfaced, some traced to Clinton campaign volunteers in Iowa, claiming that Obama is a Muslim. Former Senator Bob Kerrey, on the day he announced his support for Clinton, made sure to make a point about how wonderful he thought it was that Obama’s middle name is Hussein.
Bradky on January 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM

It’s amazing to me how many people see stuff like this, and it never even occurs to them to question any of it.

Of course it’s theoretically possible that someone named “Shmadolf Mussolini” might have renounced his Fascist Party membership and then been elevated into the running as a party’s US Presidential nominee run in 1944. But, seriously, what are the odds?

This season’s utterly unique and byzantine pre-primary process was concocted solely as an excuse for the media to put Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign on the front page every day for two years. And they can’t keep that up unless they can pretend there is a real race going on.

B. Hussein Obama is where he is for a REASON. And it’s not, as Joe Biden tried to tell us, because B. Hussein Obama is the only “clean and articulate black man” in America. It’s because Hillary knows she can give him some lead, and then pull back on his chain whenever she wants.

logis on January 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM

No getting around that 81% black number and the fact that he gets less than 25% of the white liberal vote. Post-racial, my a$$.

Jaibones on January 28, 2008 at 9:23 AM

87 to 17 huh? So if I vote along racial lines I’m not racist. Works for me.

LtE126 on January 29, 2008 at 9:51 AM

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