McCain: Romney wanted to withdraw from Iraq; Update: McCain hinted at withdrawal?
posted at 5:29 pm on January 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Team Mitt’s treating it as an egregious smear. Is it? Here’s the clip McCain’s playing off of, from April:
And here’s the “straight talk”:
Opening a new line of criticism in Ft. Myers as the two candidates campaigned along the state’s southwest coast, McCain told reporters about Iraq: “If we surrender and wave a white flag, like Senator Clinton wants to do, and withdraw, as Governor Romney wanted to do, then there will be chaos, genocide, and the cost of American blood and treasure would be dramatically higher.”
Minutes earlier, he took a slap at Romney without naming him during a question-and-answer session with Floridians, saying: “Now, one of my opponents wanted to set a date for withdrawal that would have meant disaster.”
Yeah, pretty egregious. He never said he “wanted” to withdraw or that he wanted a date set, and it’s patently clear he doesn’t want any timetables publicly announced. All he’s saying, I take it, is that Bush and Maliki should have some sense of achieving certain goals by certain dates; it doesn’t necessarily follow from that that we withdraw if those goals aren’t met, only that the strategy would have to change somehow to address the problem. If they are met and progress continues, then you can start talking — secretly — about drawing down.
In fact, here’s a clip of Mitt from June making the same point as McCain, that if we get out too soon the region’s going to melt down. An odd argument for a cut-and-runner to make, although it serves Maverick’s purposes in Florida to make it. “Straight talk” indeed.
Exit question: If the act of setting benchmarks necessarily implies a threat to withdraw if they’re not met, what do we make of this?
Update: A little more straight talk for you re: that link in the exit question.
Asked what penalty would be imposed if Iraq failed to meet his benchmarks, [McCain] said: “I think everybody knows the consequences. Haven’t met the benchmarks? Obviously, then, we’re not able to complete the mission. Then you have to examine your options.”
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Phil Byler makes a great point…Romney would not have held fast in iraq.
Romney will just blow in the wind!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Unfortunately Mitt is clueless on the WOT
http://www.mittromney.com/Issues/confronting-radical-jihad
William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 7:58 PM
William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Did he not include enough pictures for you to follow?
Just because you state it as such, does not make it so.
Cold Steel on January 26, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Oh and congratulations Phil your post just received the HaraldHardrada endorsement. That is the Hot Air equivalent of getting endorsed by the New York Times.
lan astaslem on January 26, 2008 at 8:03 PM
lan astaslem on January 26, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Harald’s endorsement single-handedly sunk Huckabee’s candidacy. Huck was clipping along until Harald jumped on the float.
Cold Steel on January 26, 2008 at 8:05 PM
paulsur on January 26, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Our founding fathers declared our independence from England and now you are trying to declare our dependence on Mexico.
Profoundly pathetical. Un-American. Very Juan Plantation McCain like though.
BTW, my name is not “Dude”.
You miss the point entirely as that does not change what the anti-Lincoln, anti-American, serf master plantation owners are doing and what motivates them. One could just as well have said that the slaves pre 1866 were better of in their status in America than they would have been back home. Many in fact did say just that, including some of the slaves.
Deja vu all over again.
- Yogi Berra
Calling William Tecumseh Sherman. Bill, you need to come back from the grave as you still have some serious burning to do.
MB4 on January 26, 2008 at 8:08 PM
I can pull out Mitt quotes too! Let’s see what he has to say about Iran:
“Diplomatic isolation should also include an indictment of Ahmadinejad for incitement to genocide under the Geneva Convention, excuse me the Genocide Convention. The United States should lead this effort.
“The full title of the Genocide Convention is the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. Remember that word: Prevention.
“Article III of the treaty establishes ‘public incitement to commit genocide’ is a punishable crime. Every signatory to this treaty shares an obligation to enforce it. So do human rights groups that care about international humanitarian law.
“Nobel Prize Winner Elie Wiesel, and human rights advocate and former Canadian Justice Minister Irwin Cotler have spoken out on this issue.
“In addition, former U.S. Ambassador John Bolton has been a forceful advocate for this effort, and he’s joined by Alan Dershowitz. If these two can agree, there must be something to it.
Yay Mitt!
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 8:08 PM
That quote is directly off Romney’s site. I didnt misquote a thing.
Mitt basically wants other countries to fight Jihadism. he wants to give a “Marshall Plan” to Middle Eastern Countries to fight Jihadism.
Yeah lets give Saudi Arabia money to educate their children that will end Jihadism !
William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 8:08 PM
lan astaslem,
If I’m the NY times you’re the daily kos…you’re pro abortion… pro gay marriage…a militant atheist.. but still you think you are a conservative!
You are not a conservative!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Romney: “Senator McCain wants to close Gitmo. I want to double the bedspace there, and fill it.”
paulsur on January 26, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Since William Amos tries to use that statement against Mitt I infer that he thinks we should work to keep Wahhabi madrassas open. :-)
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 8:12 PM
This (cheap) labor is NOT cheap. It is not realistic. It is a distortion of our economy. It is closing more and more hospitals. It is bankrupting our country.
Read the USA Today article. This affects health care, health insurance, national taxes, state taxes, local taxes, education, etc., etc.
It is a MAJOR issue.
And where JFK died, comes the real cost of ‘cheap labor’ (pun intended):
In case you not counting, that’s $75.3 million of American citizens’ taxes, in one year, in one hospital, to pay for illegal aliens to have babies. Not cheap ‘labor’, even if their husbands woked for free.
fred5678 on January 26, 2008 at 8:13 PM
William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Introducing resources and outside influences from a wide range of nations is a bad thing? How would you better temper a nationalism which is welded by an intense fanatical misrepresentation of a religion?
Cold Steel on January 26, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Since Mitt has no clue on how to shut them down I must assume he wants them open
William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Do you really believe that Islamic countries want to fight the Jihadist ? You need to go to Jihad watch more
William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Cold Steel,
You are delusional! That plan from Romney is straight from his site!
Wow! You are so oblivious to the unelectable candidate Willard Romney’s many flaws!
You lay out personal insults to me and in the same breath expose yourself as a delusional fanatic!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 8:15 PM
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 8:15 PM
If I were delusional I would throw all my efforts behind a snake oil salesman who cannot poll outside the evangelical South. How’s that for electability?
Cold Steel on January 26, 2008 at 8:20 PM
You don’t know what Romney would have done and #uck this McCainiac Iraqi-centric view of the world anyway. I care far more about America than I do about Iraq. I also care far more about the American Soldiers and Marines in Iraq than Juan McSurgo does as if someone asked me if it was OK to keep American troops in Iraq for fifty years I would have said, “HELL NO!”, not said “Make it a hundred years!” like the object of your affection did. And if I was visiting wounded American Soldiers or Marines I would also not have said, “Time for the Photo-op” and certainly not after five minutes.
MB4 on January 26, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Killing jihadis will not end jihadism, it will just grow it. You have to kill the ideology. The Japanese belived their emperor to be a god. The kamikazees believed so ferevently in this they hurled themselves to certain death for thier emperor. The invasion of Okinawa demonstrated the Japanese willingness to fight to the last man, woman, and child. The atomic bombs took the means to resist out of their hands. The occupation, the rebuilding, and the reeducation of the Japanese people took away the will.
paulsur on January 26, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Are you serious? Bryan or AP should ban you. How can a so called Christian like you spread flat out lies all day long. I am pro-life, anti-gay marriage, and a Christian. How do you live with yourself?
lan astaslem on January 26, 2008 at 8:23 PM
paulsur on January 26, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Great post. Religious nationalism wasn’t invented with Islam. Working with combinations of diplomacy and force can temper these hot beds.
Cold Steel on January 26, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Every one of the studies on who is the candidate the base is most likely to boycott….Romney is ALWAYS shown to be the most boycotted!
Even in the poll most favorable to Romney, it shows 20% of republicans will boycott Romney as compared to 8% for Huckabee and 9% for Mccain!
In a close election that makes all the difference!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 8:24 PM
lan astaslem on January 26, 2008 at 8:23 PM
And tell me…is comparing me to the liberal NY times not a slander and lie?
You lie and then call me a liar.
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 8:27 PM
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Many sound analytical studies start with ALWAYS. Especially the ones found in Grit and the Penny Saver.
Cold Steel on January 26, 2008 at 8:29 PM
Dude, do you even get my analogy? Most if not all on Hot Air agree that you have done more on here to get people to dislike Huckabee than you have done to get support of your candidate. Just like the NYT endorsement did more to hurt McCain than help him.
Link please?
lan astaslem on January 26, 2008 at 8:35 PM
I think we all know who has the “mo” right now. Time for Romney to break out the checkbook.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 26, 2008 at 8:40 PM
lan,
If most and not all do agree with you then that is an improvement!
You guys were barking up a storm with both anti-Christian and anti-Huck slander non stop before I started to comment.
Now you aim your personal slander at me because not everyone agrees with you!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Mitt Romney using the Clinton Dictionary again, this time about what the word “Timed” means… YouTube Video
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Romney at the Clintonian Dictionary Foundation
Chakra Hammer on January 26, 2008 at 8:43 PM
You just have a deep need to believe, do you ever, that everything not pro The High Reverend Huckster, whom you are hurting far more than you are helping, is anti-Christian slander.
You also have a deep need to believe that any unfaltering truth about the corrupt The High Reverend Huckster is slander.
Imam, heal thyself!
MB4 on January 26, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Here come the knives!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Let’s cut to the chase:
How would you shut them down?
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 9:00 PM
There.
Jaibones on January 26, 2008 at 9:14 PM
This is the one where Romney made huckabee look like a pretending monkey, great post exposing huckster for the fraud he is.
paulsur on January 26, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Interesting you would ask that. I know you’re answering criticism by asking, “What would you do about it?” Which is not a bad question.
But this is one case where I don’t think there is a good answer to the question. These madrassas operate in sovereign countries across the Middle East, and get their funding typically from Saudis, which is why they promote the radical Wahhabi branch of Islam. We can’t very well stomp them out directly.
But let’s face it: huge subsidies to Muslim nations is not going to make them just go away. And I certainly think it’s fair to criticize the Romney statements as unrealistic, even if you don’t have a better plan. At least we should recognize the problem.
I suspect the best plan is to figure out a way to promote a more moderate version of Islam. But even if we can do this, we can’t appear to do it, or we’ll make the more moderate version of Islam look like a “puppet” version of Islam.
Maybe we just need to identify the most anti-American aspects of these madrassas and start a public awareness campaign to counteract that with our side of the story. Maybe play up all those times and places where we work together with Muslims, or even support them.
Quite honestly, for all the sturm und drang about the Iraq war, it may be our best answer for anti-American rhetoric in the Muslim world.
theregoestheneighborhood on January 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Dude. Put up or shut up. We don’t engage in that kind of childishness here. Make an accusation, and someone asks you to back it up, back it up or shut up.
csdeven on January 26, 2008 at 9:30 PM
LOL
Carl Cameron is shilling for McCain, once again. What a buffoon.
fourstringfuror on January 26, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Might I humbly suggest you ignore him? He has nothing to contribute to this board except to irritate the regulars. He’s not worth your time, from what I’ve seen.
fourstringfuror on January 26, 2008 at 9:38 PM
You blind faith in the high Reverend HuckaGibot has blinded you to his role as THE Elmer Gantry candidate.
HuckaGibot IS anti-Christian because he is a gibot. What you were reading was anti anti-Christian attacks. HuckaGibot gives Christianity a bad name and we true Christians are exposing him and his disciples as the gibots they are. He is an offense to true Christian principles and it’s our job to educate the masses. And as one of his minions, your job is to obfuscate his evil ways and propagate his lies. You are doing quite well in that capacity, but we have God and truth on our side and we will prevail and deny they false prophet HuckaGibot the presidency as the platform to corrupt this country with his wicked, wicked ways.
csdeven on January 26, 2008 at 9:48 PM
What we really need is more brave souls like Rev. Safa.
Debate explores Muslim, Christian relationships
Connie on January 26, 2008 at 9:52 PM
csdeven on January 26, 2008 at 9:48 PM
See you have to lie because you can’t win!
Everyone here knows you are an atheist csdeven!
Or maybe it’s more like “you can’t win because you lie”!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Wow, what a long string of desperate, bitter, anti-Mitt posters.
I love William Amos’ take: “Oh NO! Mitt thinks that we should encourage moderate Islam! That MUST be his entire plan, so he’s weak! No, my solution is genocide!!!!”
Listen, dude. On that same page you take the quote from, Mitt also talks about the military strategy first and foremost. It’s a several prong strategy: 1) Kill the terrorists. 2) Try to drain the fever swamp that spawned them by showing them the GOOD side of western life. That necessarily means competing against the “Your life is hopeless, come kill the Great Satan for money and also as revenge” appeal of the Jihadi’s.
I think you are being disingenous, William. Yes, Mitt has parts of a strategy that, and here’s the key part, alone will not work. BUT, they are necessary to a comprehensive strategy. As part of a whole strategy, they are working and necessary. I’m not prepared to say our only choice is “Kill them all–every single person who believes in Mohammed should die.” By criticizing Mitt’s “let’s promote what moderate Islam we can, among other things” strat, you are saying take it off the table entirely. In that case, we might as well let the ICBM’s fly now, and get it over with.
Vanceone on January 26, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Besides, I don’t think that Romney’s plan is “Just write a blank check, and subsidize everything.” It would be a focused, targeted thing. Don’t forget, Mitt’s a businessman–he’s not in the habit of throwing billions of dollars at a problem and not checking to see if it works. That’s a McCain strategy, I believe.
Vanceone on January 26, 2008 at 10:02 PM
You can attack a true Christian all you like, but there are millions of us who will fight you and your evil ilk!
csdeven on January 26, 2008 at 10:17 PM
It would help a great deal if we did not rely so much on the Saudis for oil. We lost the ability to drill in ANWR by 1 vote, and John McCain was the guy who killed the bill for us.
The best way to keep Wahabbi schools out of this country (and in places like England) is to deny visas to the radical clerics, and stop the immigration of people who clearly have no intention of assimilating into our way of life. The last thing we need is for them to import their 6th century ideology here and expect us to bend to them.
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 10:22 PM
I don’t think you speak for anyone, never mind “everyone”. To the best of my knowledge csdeven is not an Atheist and it has frankly never occurred to me that he is. (Not that it is any of your business what anyone’s religious beliefs are unless they volunteer them).
However, I can state with certainty that you are doing a rotten job of evangelizing for Christianity if that is your intent.
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 10:27 PM
McCain is our Bill/Hill Clinton - say anything, do anything to get elected. The man makes me want to puke. He is disgusting with his lies and his smears. His pitiful record as a Senator is just icing on the cake. If this is our nominee, I’m not voting. Period.
jdawg on January 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Whatever.. csdeven said he is an atheist!
And that proves him to be both a liar and a anti-Christian bigot when he claims he is a true Christian!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 10:32 PM
However, I can state with certainty that you are doing a rotten job of evangelizing for Christianity if that is your intent.
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Thank you for your opinion Danish.
It’s not like you’re very credible though…look at your country now.
You are overrun with muslims who won’t assimilate and kill anyone who says anything bad about islam! The people of Denmark now are weak liberals!
My ancestor was KING of the Danes..and he was a Norwegian!
He would never have tolerated muslims overruning our fine country!
He conquered muslim north africa and italy and jerusalem 60 years before the Crusades!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Romney-Rudy 2008.
Not as good as Tancredo-Hunter, but they’ll have to do in a pinch …and in the middle of a war.
Especially compared to all of the alternatives.
Like the Dems- Hillary, Obama, Edwards, and their stalking horse, Shamnesty McCain.
profitsbeard on January 26, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Huckabee/Hunter 2008!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 10:45 PM
I’ve come to the conclusion that Harald, Apocalyps, Chosen, and a couple of others are actually Democrat operatives trying to use reverse psychology and get us to despise the candidates they pretend to support.
No Republican or especially a genuine conservative could be as obnoxious, ignorant, obtuse, aggressive, Hate filled, yet sober enough to type somewhat coherently, all at the same time.
Michelle; AP….. Are the extra hits really worth losing the credibility and pleasant environment of Hot Air? This place is getting as bad as DU.
LegendHasIt on January 26, 2008 at 10:49 PM
LegendHasIt,
Ha Ha! I’m not a democrat operative.
Yes, I am in investment banking and I have a deal with HA to increase traffic drastically… helping them raise their advertising revenue to tens or hundreds of millions annually and then take HotAir public and sell it at 25X earnings…earning them billions of dollars.
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 10:59 PM
I can see next years forbes 400 with Michelle on the cover, with an article about her buyout of Fox news!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 11:05 PM
HH, you must be superhuman. I’ve been away from the computer for quite a while, on and off today, and you’re still going. You must be very dedicated to your guy. He’s a goner. Internalize it. Couch still waiting.
Entelechy on January 26, 2008 at 11:10 PM
GFY Harald!
First of all, I’m not Danish.
Secondly, I’m not going to drop a lot of names because I don’t want to unduly embarrass you, but let’s just say that I’ll put my American ancestors up against your Nordic ancestors any day.
I am a strong conservative and want to preserve what my ancestors accomplished for this great country; men and women who made it possible so that even jackasses like you could flee your homeland to live in the greatest nation in the world.
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Yes! That’s what I heard!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Don’t modify my comments, HH. I don’t modify yours either, agree, or disagree. Respect your ancestors’ reputation.
Well, not everybody. I never knew that csdeven is an atheist. The only two I distinctly remember being atheists are AP, Enrique, and MB4. There are a few others, like RushBaby, who says he/she’s a friendly one, but I don’t remember all of them.
Entelechy on January 26, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Danish,
You can tell me who they are.
BTW I didn’t know you were a member of the fairer sex..I will try and sound like more of a gentleman around you!
I offer my apologies.
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Correction s/b “the only three…” - oh, well. Soon enough the correction/spelling police will be along.
Entelechy on January 26, 2008 at 11:17 PM
You have a lot more than your manners to apologize for.
As for my ancestors, let’s just say that colonial governors, signatories to the Declaration of Independence, Revolutionary war heroes, winners of the Congressional medal of honor, Rough Riders, and so forth are among them.
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 11:26 PM
This is your problem. As a disgusting vile gibot, you think anyone who isn’t an extremist Fred Phelps type, like you are, must be atheist.
You are a bane to the reputation of true Christians like myself and others on this earth. But we will never give in to you and your mentor, the Whore of Babylon.
csdeven on January 26, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Rough Riders?
Who is that…DMX?
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 11:28 PM
csdeven on January 26, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Ha Ha Ha so you were an atheist the other day and now you are a devout Christian?
That’s fantastic! I’m proud of you.
Danish you hear that?
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Awesome!
Stop, drop, shut ‘em down, open up shop
Ohhh… nooo
That’s how Rough Riders roll!
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 11:36 PM
DMX? What is that? Danish Men in eXile?
Stop acting like a fool and dig up the quote in the vault where csdeven said he was an Atheist.
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Hey Har-dee-Har-Har,
cs is not a atheist. I have been sparring with him on this site for some time now and I can assure you that he is a christian. I do not understand why you would assume he is other than that except for the fact that he refuses to endorse that idiot Huck-a-dip-$hit that you seem to have a curiously sexual obsession with.
Go away troll!
conservnut on January 26, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Listen up you vile gibot…..you have every opportunity to link to the comment you believe proves I said I am an atheist. So, put up or shut up. Once you take the time to go back and look, you’ll find that the spiritual inspiration you are getting from the Whore of Babylon has failed you.
csdeven on January 26, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Lol.
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 11:43 PM
We all knew you’d say that.
csdeven on January 26, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Can anyone accurately trace their ancestry back that far?
I dunno. Seems unlikely.
In any case anyone who knows even the rudimentaries of genetics and math knows that one probably would not have even one consequential gene in common with an ancestor from that far back.
But whatever floats your longship I suppose.
BTW, did you know that there are those who say that a Norwegian is just a Sweede with his head cut off?
MB4 on January 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Actually that’s what we say about the Swedes.
HaraldHardrada on January 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM
The only other viable theory is that there was a mass breakout from Saint Elizabeth’s.
MB4 on January 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Post the link gibot.
csdeven on January 26, 2008 at 11:57 PM
I see that HaraldHardrada is confused between Ruff Riders and The Rough Riders.
What a surprise that he is intimately familiar with rap lyrics but knows nothing of Teddy Roosevelt and the Spanish-American War.
/SARC!
Buy Danish on January 26, 2008 at 11:57 PM
The Silent Majority stands up and takes what is rightfully theirs.
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 26, 2008 at 11:59 PM
My mother’s father was in the Spanish American war, although he wasn’t Teddy Roosevelt.
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 12:01 AM
That sounds impressive. I’m convinced. I’ll vote for Huckabee just as soon as your ancestor tells me to.
Of course, if he doesn’t tell me to vote for Huckabee, then I won’t.
theregoestheneighborhood on January 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Another convert. Welcome aboard. With Huck,it’s not just a race for POTUS it’s a movement!
Huckabee/Hunter 2008!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I like Huck, but when he goes to the kremlin will he break out his bass?
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 12:13 AM
My ancestor wasn’t Teddy Roosevelt but he was his very good friend. I have to be a bit vague…
Buy Danish on January 27, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Now, this made me laugh csdeven. Don’t spar with HH. He’s harmless. And he’s a Christian too.
MB4, you never disappoint. This could be true, or made up, and you wouldn’t care. But your point is well taken. Who cares abour all your ancestors, all here on HA. None of you could prove a thing, and no one cares anyway. I like or dislike any of you for other reasons, but not for your lineage, or as you so wittily put it MB4, your “longship”. Then they wonder why I like you.
There is another viable theory. If this continues I’m going to die from laughing.
Entelechy on January 27, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Chosen,
No. No bass for Putey.
He just gets escorted to the gates of hell if he doesn’t like it when Huck turns iran to glass!
HaraldHardrada on January 27, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Entelechy; (And any of you other ‘Pshrink’ types), or any experienced military or law enforcement interrogators:
What would your professional opinion be of someone who, when accused of a whole laundry list of vile things only bothers to deny the ONE thing that would kid of excuse and explain the other bad behaviors?
LegendHasIt on January 27, 2008 at 12:28 AM
No it is true. I read it in a “Family Tree” book that one of my cousins put together.
“May recalls that friends were surprised that she had a father who was so old he served in the Spanish American War”.
He died from malaria and his widow got a $56 a month pension that FDR cut to $28.
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 12:30 AM
Sounds good, but I don’t know if the Huckmania has the grapefruits. I’d love to see Johhny Mac give Putin a good sizing up like, “Look I’ve survived five years in Hanoi, bring on that Plutonium 210 pinko”!
THE CHOSEN ONE on January 27, 2008 at 12:31 AM
LegendHasIt on January 27, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Dearest LegendHasIt, each case is unique, and I don’t know exactly which one you refer to. Today, for example, I’ve only read sporadically.
Some general advice for here, at HA, and it’s not professional and it’s free :)
- Not everything we see/read, is what we think/interpret it to be
- When distortions happen, we can restate, clarify, but we can’t change others. We can’t hardly do that outside of the net/s; hardly to be taken very seriously here, then.
- Many on the net/s are serious, others are not so much, and others, like self, are a combination of both. I take the politics very seriously. However, I can have oodles of fun, and do. I don’t care if it diminishes my so-called ‘reputation’. That is something others attribute to me or others here. It’s a bit silly, as no one hardly knows anyone else, and all can, and do assume all kinds of roles.
- Many here take themselves way too seriously.
- In the end, nothing can be gained, lost, just ventured here.
Above all, I really like you, and that’s the truth, whether I can ever prove it or not. It was always so. Best regards,
Entelechy on January 27, 2008 at 12:47 AM
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 12:30 AM
I believe you, and didn’t mean to make fun of your relations. I hope that you still agree with my general view on all kinds of claims on the nets.
How are you and what are you drinking tonight? I know what you smoke :) And also, you’ve been busy today. Aren’t you exhausted?
Entelechy on January 27, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Forgot - the ‘great’ FDR everyone lauds into the skies for his ‘humanitarian’ traits?
Entelechy on January 27, 2008 at 12:56 AM
I have not begun to drink yet tonight, but will probably have a couple of MicroBrews a little later.
I only type with two fingers, so can’t get very tired that way.
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 12:56 AM
My mother and her gaggle of sisters and one brother almost starved to death. My mom hated FDR and I don’t think she ever voted for a democrat.
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 12:58 AM
One of those :) You must do that very fast though, ’cause you’ve been all over the threads. Today was a busy HA day. It’s the season. I primarily watched on and off, and laughed. Only so much to say. You’re saying most of it anyway.
Btw, when I came here, while waiting for school to begin, I took two courses, one for typing (10 fingers :), and one for using a calculator by touch. They’ve both been a great investment. I was 19 when I first used a phone. Little things still fascinate/delight me equally to big ones. It doesn’t take much to amuse me.
Entelechy on January 27, 2008 at 1:03 AM
That’s sad. In her memory, and because I don’t want you to, you shouldn’t either :)
Entelechy on January 27, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Where did you go to school in the U.S. ?
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 1:11 AM
Entelechy; I was referring to the 10:59 reply to my 10:49 post above. As with Beetlejuice, I’m afraid to say the names three times in a day, lest they be released into my reality. ;-)
(P.S.; I like you too… Especially, I find valuable your comments filtered with the experience of your early life…. Perhaps not a unique background combined with professional knowledge of behavioral analysis, but certainly a very uncommon one.)
LegendHasIt on January 27, 2008 at 1:28 AM
MB4 on January 27, 2008 at 1:11 AM
Bellevue, WA and ITT Peterson School of Business for computer programming and finance, with dictionary in hand, and extremely broken English (but I helped everyone to do their homework in binary, octal and hexadecimal :), to be able to earn a living quickly. Then Bachelor and Masters in San Diego. Finished those in 4 1/2 years, nights, while working full time as a computer training manager for cardiology devices, traveling around the world. Then continued to work days, and taught in Masters programs at night. I haven’t programmed in a while now. Don’t teach at night any more either, due to job demands. Have a very unique, challenging, and interesting job but don’t want to elaborate here.
Entelechy on January 27, 2008 at 1:30 AM
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