A question for the left:…

Wow, you let lefties in here?

DMeNTe on January 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM

They’ll rally around her, of course, just as most conservatives will rally around McCain

You committed heresy Allah heh

Which is why I dont get the attacks on McCain because if the right damages him too much it hands the Presidency to the liberals.

I know some have argued that would be a good thing so that if things go wrong republicans get the benefit. I take the different veiw that if things go wrong doesnt matter WHO has the White House we all suffer for it.

I dont want the conservative part of this party to be complict in causing another 9/11 attack simply because we dont like our Nominee. And understand we WOULD be complict if we sat out and let an incompetant like Hillary or Obama become president.

If conservatives play games this election then we are guilty of any results that come out of it.

William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Could the wingnuts have been right about the Clintons?

in a word, yes.

lan astaslem on January 26, 2008 at 2:39 PM

“Will liberals rally behind her, or will they remember the Democratic primary?”

Yeah, talk about naivete.

tyouth on January 26, 2008 at 2:41 PM

in an eyeblink.

How about “in the blink of an eye.”

They’ll forgive Hillary, but the fundamental difference is that Hillary is playing dirty politics against other politicians. Sen. McCain has punched the base in the face a few times, so it’s more of a black eye swollen shut in that case.

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 2:45 PM

And for the record, I don’t give Liberals the credit for pure hindsight and realization. Their dogma makes them blind and short-term memoried.

tickleddragon on January 26, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Bloody hell, right.

(didja hear that accent?)

tickleddragon on January 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Except Dole did vote to cut Medicare, there was a vast right-wing conspiracy and Starr was and is a rabid partisan. (”Trailer trash” is, of course, a matter of opinion, and it’s a cruel thing to say, but as far as whether it’s a lie — well, it’s not like they called William F. Buckley “trailer trash.”)

Translation = so now that we know the Clintons are liars it’s bad, but back then it was ok because the conservatives were worse. Love the liberal logic.

lan astaslem on January 26, 2008 at 2:49 PM

tickleddragon on January 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM

I did :)

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Which is why I dont get the attacks on McCain because if the right damages him too much it hands the Presidency to the liberals.

If McCain is elected the Presidency will be in liberal hands. I was willing to hold my nose for McCain until yesterday, when I read of his connection to Juan Hernandez. Now I am not sure what I will do if he is the nominee.

bopbottle on January 26, 2008 at 2:52 PM

I’m so sick of hearing, McCain is the best shot we got of beating Hillary..Give me a break…you sound like all of the MSM…. Listen to all of the MSM and the polls, let them make up your mind for you. McCain is an IDIOT PERIOD…

twiggman on January 26, 2008 at 2:58 PM

I don’t know Allah. I think it is just a simple victimhood equation. Blacks are more of a victim than Women. So they Donks are driven to support the underdog. That is who they are. Deep down. Black trumps Female. Simple. So they do what they do. Demonize the opponent. I don’t see it as that complex.

Like this.
I am good
I fight evil
You fight me
You must be evil
You are evil
I fight evil
So I am good
Anything I do to fight evil is good
Smoke pot
Sleep
Borrow money from Mom
Donate to Ron Paul
I am good so
You are evil

ronsfi on January 26, 2008 at 3:01 PM

Their crybaby antics are so transparent. First Nevada and now Florida. How can any democrat voter take them seriously?

ctmom on January 26, 2008 at 3:05 PM

So some on the left side of politics are asking themselves if the right side was correct in their assessment of the Clinton mob?

And their answer is . . .

well yes, but no. The conservatives might have been correct but they’re still wrong. The conservative policies, and principles are just wrong. The Republicans are wrong. So even if they were right about the Clintons, the republicans are still wrong, because they are republicans, and conservatives.

rockhauler on January 26, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Which is why I dont get the attacks on McCain because if the right damages him too much it hands the Presidency to the liberals.

William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 2:35 PM

Well put.

JetBoy on January 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM

I disagree. Hit McCain hard now and maybe we won’t be saddled with him as our nominee. I think that’s what Rush is trying to do. McCain vs. Hillary is no choice at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made a deal. The loser becomes the others VP.

Ordinary1 on January 26, 2008 at 3:11 PM

TexasJew on January 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Every time I see you comment I just wanna say Shalom, Y’all! But I agree, our current selections suck, but Romney is better than that rat McCain, no way should we reward him for his years of undermining the conservative movement.

doubleplusundead on January 26, 2008 at 3:17 PM

scales falling from the eyes

Reading the Bible lately?

As to the subject at hand, the Democrats will have primary election amnesia once the HRC is annointed. Conveniently, they will remember, in precise detail, every flaw, misstep, and foible of the Republican contender.

fourstringfuror on January 26, 2008 at 3:29 PM

…by definition, you can’t be unfair to conservatives because nothing’s really “unfair” in total war.

In their eyes, the moral superiority of their ends justifies their means.
.

…the latest shirt-rending over Clinton hardball. All of this will be forgiven and forgotten once the general election campaign gets going, in an eyeblink.

Yup, in an eyeblink. Not to mention the beat of a heart.

petefrt on January 26, 2008 at 3:34 PM

I would really love to hear why Romney is “better” than McCain

How does George Soros strike your fancy? Juan Martinez?

fourstringfuror on January 26, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Martinez

Er, Hernandez.

fourstringfuror on January 26, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Our Country is at war and if we step back and allow someone to take over our country and lead us to defeat by sitting out then we are as guilty as those that back the democrats.

Have you watched Obama or Hillary ? Do you know what they stand for ? Do you want an AG Silky ? Because if you sit out that is what you will get. And you will be guilty of allowing that to happen.

Yep. I watched every debate, both republican and democrat. And Allah keeps me up to speed on what I miss between them.

Re: defeat. McCain’s strongest (only?) strength maybe be partly moot if Bush secures a long-term treaty with Iraq anyway. Does that make it worth swallowing his non-constitutional efforts?

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 3:38 PM

The clintons are the axis of evil… As much as I love my country, if they (I do mean they)con the masses I’ll have to suspend my citizenship for the next four years and give cryogenics a spin. The possibility of those sapsuckers getting into the Whitehouse again makes me cringe, and worse billy getting into the Supreme Court..

whiskeytango on January 26, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Unless I miss my guess any treaty has to be ratified by the US congress. So Bush has no chance of making it stick after he leaves.

Normal treaties are ratified by the Senate. However, as you may already know, that is not the root that the President is taking. If you are indeed unfamilar with this here’s a brief summation, I’ll emphasize the key points:

Most significant of all, the new partnership deal with Iraq, including a status of forces agreement that would then replace the existing Security Council mandate authorizing the presence of the U.S.-led multinational forces in Iraq, will become a sworn obligation for the next president. It will become just another piece of the complex global security framework involving a hundred or so countries with which Washington now has bilateral defense or security cooperation agreements. Last month, Sen. Hillary Clinton urged Bush not to commit to any such agreement without congressional approval. The president said nothing about that on Saturday, but Lute said last fall that the Iraqi agreement would not likely rise to the level of a formal treaty requiring Senate ratification. Even so, it would be difficult if not impossible for future presidents to unilaterally breach such a pact.

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Pardon my typo, “…route that the President is taking.”

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 3:47 PM

Man just imagine the heads exploding over Cheif Justice William Clinton.
William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 3:42 PM

You’re right about the exploding part, although I’d expect that most of it would take place in his chambers. If billy was a decent guy I’d feel bad for him being married to that troll of a hag. But as it is they deserve each other.

whiskeytango on January 26, 2008 at 3:50 PM

In which reality does the reality-based community exist where the Clintons trying to claw their way through an election with unfair attacks constitutes a departure from form? Let me know, as it’ll come in handy the next time conservatives are accused of moronically hero-worshipping their political leaders while our betters cast a cold, unsparing critical eye at their own leading lights.

Well, you know, there is also more than a little exaggeration on the right about how evil and unfair the Clintons have been. I wish everybody was little more high minded about politics than they are, but so many people care more about sideshow than substance.

I prefer to get back to basics and to oppose Hilary for what she wants to do with the government. To me, it’s all about policy. I could care less about Hilary’s cackle. For that matter, if we want to play that game, the moronic speech patterns of George W’s voice haven’t done much to advance my happiness. Is this what elections should be about?

thuja on January 26, 2008 at 3:50 PM

I’m not rallying around anyone that insulted me by calling me nativist for opposing Shamnesty.

Nativism is inherently opposite to what our country stands for, but I think it’s fair to say that it wouldn’t be a bad idea to cease immigration for a spell and get things straightend out.. Our land mass isn’t going anywhere for quite some time. As far as depriving aliens the opportunity to fufill the American dream (which I am presuming would be a response) that ideology will soon be replace with the new slogan of an American Nightmare if we don’t get with the program soon.

whiskeytango on January 26, 2008 at 3:57 PM

He’s still not quite ready to embrace the entire picture of what the Clinton’s really are (or were in the 90’s), but he’s getting there.

Unfortunately, the most telling section of this article is his admission that he will STILL vote for her if she’s the nominee. Again, these people would rather see Democratic criminals occupy the White House than any of the Republican frontrunners. Wasn’t that the problem with their inability to embrace the truth in the first place?

In the end, nothing really changes.

Gartrip on January 26, 2008 at 3:59 PM

/slaps forehead

(ignore previous)

29Victor on January 26, 2008 at 4:01 PM

Spirit of 1776 on January 26, 2008 at 3:35 PM

Yes…Robert Bork is a man I have always admired and respected. But remember too, it was John McCain and the Gang of 14 who was instrumental in getting both Alito and Roberts confirmed. I truly believe that wouldn’t have happened without McCain.

JetBoy on January 26, 2008 at 4:05 PM

The fact that the Clintons (bof’em) have not been tried and convicted of 100s of counts of high treason, is a testament to how corrupt our system is.
And how corruptible many folks are to cover for them. I bet Susan videos

TheSitRep on January 26, 2008 at 4:12 PM

Wow, you let lefties in here?

DMeNTe on January 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM

It was a rhetorical question…

Jaibones on January 26, 2008 at 4:17 PM

Our Country is at war and if we step back and allow someone to take over our country and lead us to defeat by sitting out then we are as guilty as those that back the democrats…

No one should get a pass for sitting on their butts when the stakes are as high as they are

William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 3:34 PM

While I understand your sentiment, and feel your pain, William A., our cuntry, for the most part, is really not at war, but out shopping, or to lunch. And, with the happily/quickly compromise-reached stimulus package, in an election year, with a hair’s worth of economic ‘tremor’, most will be out shopping even more.

Entelechy on January 26, 2008 at 4:20 PM

Rally around McCain if you want to, it’s your choice.

Personally, I’m not going to vote for a Soros puppet, friend of La Raza under ANY circumstances.

Exit question for McCain supporters: Does national soveriegnty or American citizenship have ANY value to you people what-so-ever?

I think the following quote sums up McCain quite concisely:

“Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don’t mean to do harm — but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.” - T.S. Eliot

SuperCool on January 26, 2008 at 4:26 PM

McCain didn’t get those two justices through the committee, in fact, he weakened Majority Leader Bill Frist who was going to stop the Democrat’s shenanigans and go for an up-or-down vote. Alito and Roberts would have sailed through, the Republicans would have probably kept the Senate if McCain hadn’t destroyed the brand name, along with President Bush and that suicidal Kennedy-concocted Shamnesty Bill.
Let’s see the now-completely minority Republicans block a Ruth Bader Ginsberg these days. Eunuchs while in the majority, think of how pathetic they will be now! There will never be a conservative justice nominated for years, thanks to that Gang of 14 crap.

If you think the Republicans going from a double-majority to a double-minority party is a really good idea, then we have McCain and the other RINOs to thank.
Oh, and how’s it going Senator Craig?
But only McCain is running for the Presidency and he sure ain’t no Republican. Why reward a turncoat?

TexasJew on January 26, 2008 at 4:31 PM

This may be where the confusion lies — by definition, you can’t be unfair to conservatives because nothing’s really “unfair” in total war. Against St. Barack, though? Horrors.

I’ll answer your question with another question: Would this even be an issue if Barry wasn’t black? We all know how empty his “reach across the aisle” nonsense is, and are aware of how so many of his supporters are voting for him simply based on his race (and I’m not just talking about other blacks, I’m talking about all those a-hole college kids who think it makes them so “progressive” to do so, the similar to the disgusting way the “it’s time we had a woman” women vote for Hillary). Anyway, back to the question - Would the Dems who are so offended by the Clinton machine’s behavior really care all that much if Obama wasn’t black?

And I’ll answer my own question with another question: Would Obama even be in the position he is if he weren’t black? Absolutely not. A white guy named Barry O’Reilly, even if he was identical to Obama in every other way, would be a complete nobody, and would in all likelihood, never held any elected office.

(This is the part where dumbasses miss the point and accuse me of saying that black people shouldn’t hold any high power positions… So have at it trolls.)

RightWinged on January 26, 2008 at 4:45 PM

“If Hillary wins the nomination, most of us will probably vote for her because the alternative is likely to be worse”.
An utterance that I knew was coming but hadn’t yet heard.
This tripe, and vast oceans of bilge is what we have come to expect from the lefties. Their only contribution is to provide an example for our children NOT to emulate.

AP-try cutting down on le ver-bage; less is more.

Christine on January 26, 2008 at 4:52 PM

just as most conservatives will rally around McCain

Not in this life. I will never vote for a man willing and able to send my country into the hands of a forgeign power for the sake of low paying wages. If it is a choice between Hillary and McCain I will leave the top of the ticket blank and vote for the rep Senator and Congressman.

unseen on January 26, 2008 at 4:58 PM

Exactly. Which is why the McCain-bashing from the right has to stop. …JetBoy on January 26, 2008 at 2:48 PM

Which is why the Conservative-bashing by McCain has got to stop.

FIFY

i. e., McCain’s honorary SC chairman, Grahamnesty, speaking to LA RAZA (there’s a nice racial group for ya’), calls me and others a bigot.

Yeah, I’d call that bashing. And elephants don’t forget. Of course, McCain doesn’t know anything about elephants - only donkeys.

fred5678 on January 26, 2008 at 5:08 PM

Liberals will rally behind Billary because they don’t give a rat’s patuttie (that’s the equivalent of a cow patty for you folks not from Texas)about honor, responsibility, or the security of this country.

second digit on January 26, 2008 at 5:20 PM

Sometimes a country needs a Carter to get a Reagan.
Sad but true.
jukin on January 26, 2008 at 4:04 PM

I don’t think the country can survive another Carter, not in a peaceful manner anyway.

oldernslower on January 26, 2008 at 5:22 PM

I personally was too young to vote for his dad, Bush I in 1970, when he ran in the Senate race as the levelheaded MODERATE against (Dukakis’s loveable kindly old 1984 sidekick) Sen. Lloyd Bentsen, who had just beaten Sen. Ralph Yarborough in the brutal bloody 1970 Dem primary, pointedly accusing Sen. Yarborough of being a g-ddamn hippie-loving race-mixing communist.
You live in Texas long enough, you learn to really hate the Democrat party. Truly disgusting…

TexasJew on January 26, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Yep I voted for W twice for the head job in Texas too. And (this will let you know how old I am) remember when he ran for the congressional seat in 76? At least I think that was the year. That was the first time I voted for him.

He and I have both changed a lot since then.

conservnut on January 26, 2008 at 5:39 PM

The inevitable result of holding one’s nose too tightly for too long is brain death.

Which, I fear, the Republicans are very close to acheiving.

wccawa on January 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM

First the faint and loss of consciousness.

The incessant harang from each remaining candidate will not change. They butchered the platform. Either re-establish the platform or resort to filth. Note well, no one is attempting a GOP coalition. Instead, McCain & Romney require a conversion to a RINO platform. Any RINO attempt to outdo the Clinton machine will only give America that same machine, regardless of the engineering candidate’s name, status, or “intentions”.

Then comes deadly taxation to pay for the “win”.

PS: McCain is not a native Arizonan, as some journalists refer to him as a native of the Southwest.

maverick muse on January 26, 2008 at 5:49 PM

No one should get a pass for sitting on their butts when the stakes are as high as they are

William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Yet you’re willing to give the Republican Party a pass for not supporting a conservative candidate and nominating a RINO?

Kowboy on January 26, 2008 at 6:54 PM

No one should get a pass for sitting on their butts when the stakes are as high as they are

William Amos on January 26, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Sorry. Much better to “sit on our ass” than kiss the a$$ of those who flip off 80% of the American population.

How long are you going to stay on your knees?

Gregor on January 26, 2008 at 7:28 PM

If liberals are in power when the stupid socialist nonsense comes into play, they get the blame. If McVain is in office when the SAME stupid socialist nonsense comes into play, Republicans get the blame.

The policies are not very different…who gets blamed is.

tickleddragon on January 26, 2008 at 2:50 PM

If it’s McCain vs Whoever, I’m with Rush, count me out as well.

Zorro on January 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM

And, No, I won’t feel at all responsible for whatever might happen. Will you feel responsible for nominating him?

trigon on January 26, 2008 at 8:32 PM

DMeNTe on January 26, 2008 at 5:19 PM

Interesting how the “stimulus package” made the markets tank huh?

The American markets would have rebound even without that government package. I believe in a free market, you obviously don’t. This is still true - the U.S. economy and power is still grand enough so that “when the U.S. sneezes, the rest of the world has pneumonia”. It’s one of my favorite sayings, btw.

Also an interesting way to spell “country” there Entelechy.

I noticed my mistake too late, wanted to correct it, but the thread moved so fast that it didn’t make sense any more.

A slip of some sort?

No, it was an honest mistake. I probably can spell better than you, but when in a hurry I leave out letters, or transpose them, for which I apologize to you sincerely, and profusely. The last thing on my mind is to abuse the English, or any language. How many do you possess, and spell every word perfectly in, even when in a hurry?

Aren’t you originally from Yugo or something? Europe somewhere, no?

Europe yes, Yugo, no. I’m a proud, legal, naturalized American citizen, and would never do anything to belittle or harm this country. Sincerely, and respectfully,

Entelechy on January 26, 2008 at 9:28 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised if they made a deal. The loser becomes the others VP.

Ordinary1 on January 26, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Wouldn’t surprise me either considering that ass has toyed with the idea before.

91Veteran on January 26, 2008 at 9:45 PM