Video: Westboro degenerate celebrates Heath Ledger’s death

posted at 8:42 am on January 25, 2008 by Allahpundit

A little dollop o’ crap in your morning coffee to get you going this Friday, courtesy of the big A. It comes from Australia’s — or, as Phelps would have it, Sodom’s — “A Current Affair.” You may recognize the host as the same stone-faced idiot who tried and failed to affect convincing outrage during the now-famous Spicoli interview. She does no better here.

As always with Phelps, some of it goes so far over the top that it almost plays as black comedy. “Australia, land of the sodomite damned”? C’mon. Click the image to watch.

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Whenever anyone denies the existence of evil, just show them the Phelps clan.

Ellen on January 25, 2008 at 8:47 AM

OK, they have given this jerk Phelps more than enough air time and publicity than he and is wacked-out group is entitled to! He has brought nothing but pain and grief to the families of soldiers who have died in Iraq by protesting at their funerals and now he has managed to make himself look even more of a backwater ass to the entire continent of Australia. This guy should be on ever media outlet’s list as to make sure not to put a microphone in front of, take a picture of, or even print one word he or his group has to say. In other words, this clown and his equally insane clown posse deserves absolute and outright shunning.

pilamaye on January 25, 2008 at 8:50 AM

Hey AP,

Where did you find that Huckabee campain ad?

conservnut on January 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM

I have never seen some one so extreme in all areas.
He excels in hate of every type.

I wonder if he is a big Huck or Paul fan.

TheSitRep on January 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM

Australia, land of the sodomite damned

Their tourism bureau should steal that outright.

saint kansas on January 25, 2008 at 8:53 AM

evil disgusting man, I couldn’t make it past the “we are the wolrd” remake. How can people live full of so much hate?

Keli on January 25, 2008 at 8:53 AM

I would like to picket at his funeral some day.

frreal on January 25, 2008 at 8:54 AM

The Branch Davidians get burned alive.

But these worthless SOBs?

It’s not right.

MadisonConservative on January 25, 2008 at 8:54 AM

Where did you find that Huckabee campain ad?

conservnut on January 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM

Ha ha, I wish i’da thunk that up.

TheSitRep on January 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM

Wow. He is almost as bad as the crazy people who follow the Quran to their deaths.
These Phelps people haven’t actually committed murder, have they?
yeesh. Sick bunch.

bridgetown on January 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM

This guy and his spawn are in for a major huge gigantic awakening when they finally croak.

Talk about divine smackdown.

Bob's Kid on January 25, 2008 at 8:57 AM

The media jackals have aided and abetted this douchebag.

packsoldier on January 25, 2008 at 8:58 AM

When did Phelps start cracking on pretend homosexuals? I need to get caught up.

Kid from Brooklyn on January 25, 2008 at 8:59 AM

i’m no huck fan at all.. but i think he may even be at a loss for words with this trash… I’d love to see this idiot and Hitchens go at it…we could do a PPV event, all proceeds donated to the familys of our fallen

stlpatriot on January 25, 2008 at 9:00 AM

So they show this nutjob all the time and claim he’s a representative of “right wing” Christianity, but never show those imams who wish death to the Great Satan? Class-say

And Westboro guy, you claim to be a Christian? Where’s the part about not judging people and loving everyone? Or did you miss that part on the Sermon on the Mount. Westboro Church is a disgrace to all who call themselves Christian.

Heath Ledger’s family and friends deserve to have time to mourn and to have people support their mourning, not to kick them whilst they’re down. The armchair quarterbacking of this man’s death (including all the speculation as to “how”) has caused me to turn off the TV ever since it happened. Frankly, it’s nauseating. I wonder what sort of gloating and “told ya so” will go on if Britney Spears goes the same way….

mjk on January 25, 2008 at 9:04 AM

I think one reason the media love to put a camera on this guy is that it plays well with the narrative that Christians are intolerant, hateful and bigoted. The fact that he has an accent and is from the Midwestern U.S. just makes it all the more delicious.

It isn’t tough to imagine the same people who wish to paint Christians with this same brush are quick to admonish you that the extremist Muslim is a “tiny minority” of a hijacked “religion of peace”. Forget that this church has a membership of anywhere from 70-150 people and IS representative of a ridiculously small percentage of – AND is overwhelmingly derided, denounced and despised by – mainstream Christianity.

Whenever anyone denies the existence of evil, just show them the Phelps clan.

Ellen on January 25, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Often those types who use moral equivalence to downplay evil are able to make an exception to their nobody is evil belief for Christians and possibly even see most of them as pretty much like Phelps.

RDuke on January 25, 2008 at 9:06 AM

I’m sure Phelps thinks Huck is a degenerate too. They came here when Falwell died to picket his funeral. Real classy.

I can’t imagine any scenario where Huck would agree with Phelps on anything. There’s a giant difference between believing that sex outside of marriage (homo, hetero, or otherwise) is sinful and Phelps’ disgusting behavior.

acleaver on January 25, 2008 at 9:09 AM

The guy deserves a real physical beat down.

Hilts on January 25, 2008 at 9:09 AM

He doesn’t deserve the expose. Giving people like him attention only encourages him to continue to be totally outrageous.

TheBigOldDog on January 25, 2008 at 9:13 AM

Old Fred Phelps can’t be too long for this world. Someone should organize a gay pride parade to march past his own funeral, whenever that happens.

Big S on January 25, 2008 at 9:15 AM

It’s a shame that this despicable piece of pond scum is given any attention or notice. On the other hand, I guess it’s necessary to expose him and his vile words and behavior.

rplat on January 25, 2008 at 9:20 AM

This guy is lower than snake urine.

Geronimo on January 25, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Daily Zen: If a tree falls on Fred Phelps, and no one is around to hear it, does anyone care?

joewm315 on January 25, 2008 at 9:20 AM

This pathetic loser needs to go crawl in a hole, and pull the hole in after him.

Enough already.

AZCoyote on January 25, 2008 at 9:24 AM

John Gibson was also quite the a@#hole about Ledger. For once, I agree with all of the lefty sites… Gibson came off as a completely bigoted prick.

DaveS on January 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

I think one reason the media love to put a camera on this guy is that it plays well with the narrative that Christians are intolerant, hateful and bigoted. The fact that he has an accent and is from the Midwestern U.S. just makes it all the more delicious.

It isn’t tough to imagine the same people who wish to paint Christians with this same brush are quick to admonish you that the extremist Muslim is a “tiny minority” of a hijacked “religion of peace”. Forget that this church has a membership of anywhere from 70-150 people and IS representative of a ridiculously small percentage of – AND is overwhelmingly derided, denounced and despised by – mainstream Christianity.
RDuke on January 25, 2008 at 9:06 AM

That is the sad and ridiculous truth.

Keli on January 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM

Daily Zen: If a tree falls on Fred Phelps, and no one is around to hear it, does anyone care?

If a tree falls on Fred Phelps and no one hears it, what sort of earplugs were they wearing when operating the chainsaw?

DaveS on January 25, 2008 at 9:31 AM

That left me wondering, do Phelps and Nasrallah exchange emails?

fogw on January 25, 2008 at 9:31 AM

If a tree falls on Fred Phelps and no one hears it, what sort of earplugs were they wearing when operating the chainsaw?

DaveS on January 25, 2008 at 9:31 AM

LOL

EnochCain on January 25, 2008 at 9:32 AM

The real irony, in this forum, is this knuckle-head says a lot of this over-the-top stuff on purpose to get media attention. And it works.

Even here. We complain about him saying what he is saying, all the while giving him the free press coverage he wants.

I think this is called “enabling”.

Lawrence on January 25, 2008 at 9:34 AM

When this guy dies I’m going to picket his funeral. I’ll have a sign that says “God hates losers” on one side and “Thank God for _____” on the other, with the blank being whatever he died from.

JasonG on January 25, 2008 at 9:37 AM

Speaking of “enabling”…

Shame on him for being a nasty old crank.

Shame on us for giving him a free platform for his nasty crankiness.

Lawrence on January 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM

I’d love to see this idiot and Hitchens go at it

Actually, I’d love to see Huckabee and this idiot go at it. I don’t want Huckabee for prez., but I think he could take this guy with ease.

TX Mom on January 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM

I think this is called “enabling”.

Yeah, how? He’s not rich. In fact, he owes the father of that Marine millions. He’s not benefiting from the exposure; on the contrary, society benefits from exposing and deriding it.

Allahpundit on January 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM

AP, you forgot to remind readers that Phelps is a lifelong Democrat and has run for office for the Democrats. Most people assume he is a conservative Christian and a Republican, or at least Independent. (Dig out those Al Gore pics!)

cornwall on January 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM

The real irony, in this forum, is this knuckle-head says a lot of this over-the-top stuff on purpose to get media attention. And it works.

Even here. We complain about him saying what he is saying, all the while giving him the free press coverage he wants.

I think this is called “enabling”.

Lawrence on January 25, 2008 at 9:34 AM

Sure. I agree entirely.

Of course, its also ironic that – while making that point – you left not one but two posts adding to the “enabling.”

I love irony. Its so ironic.

Professor Blather on January 25, 2008 at 9:46 AM

“Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church family just might be the most important GLBT activists since Stonewall. Why? Quite simply, because they give homophobes a bad name. Unlike stealth homophobes, the Phelps clan don’t hide their repugnance under a bushel. Every time they appear on the nation’s television screens, they show millions of Americans just how ugly unadulterated bigotry is.”

http://www.phagsforphelps.com/

Damian P. on January 25, 2008 at 9:47 AM

evil disgusting man, I couldn’t make it past the “we are the wolrd” remake. How can people live full of so much hate?

Keli on January 25, 2008 at 8:53 AM

What is this called in psychology, Tranference?

Anyway, anybody who dedicates his life to talking about nothing but gay men has to have a Greek Pool boy at home.

EJDolbow on January 25, 2008 at 10:05 AM

I wonder what sort of gloating and “told ya so” will go on if Britney Spears goes the same way

That FNC maggot, Shep, will no doubt be all over the ‘tragedy’ with his crappy little segment. Vapid ghoul that he is.

LimeyGeek on January 25, 2008 at 10:12 AM

Wow, can’t wait to find out that Phelps has had a secret male lover or is caught with internet pedo-porn on his computer.

Bruce Hendrix on January 25, 2008 at 10:26 AM

Anyway, anybody who dedicates his life to talking about nothing but gay men has to have a Greek Pool boy at home.

EJDolbow on January 25, 2008 at 10:05 AM

Exactly what I was thinking. People who OBSESS over something are hiding something.

Bruce Hendrix on January 25, 2008 at 10:30 AM

I wonder if he is a big Huck or Paul fan.

Phelps is a Democrat.

Mark Jaquith on January 25, 2008 at 10:32 AM

I heard that clip of Gibson the other day. What a disgusting piece of trash. I’ve always thought he was a pompous ass, he really proved it to me this time.

jewells45 on January 25, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Why do we give this insignificant any time at all?

Techie on January 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM

From the Wikipedia entry on Fred Phelps:
“The church at Westboro which he leads has 71 confirmed members, 60 of whom are related to Phelps through blood or marriage or both.”

A few questions:

1) With a flock comprising 0.000003433% of Christendom, why is this guy news?
2) How can you be related to someone through both blood and marriage? Isn’t that, like, against the law?
3) Wouldn’t it be fun if he turned out to be gay?

factoid on January 25, 2008 at 10:50 AM

I just can’t bring myself to watch this tripe. Westboro is no church; it’s a cult that consistently blasphemes the name of Christ.

Tim on January 25, 2008 at 10:57 AM

I hesitate to ask this question, because I’m really not trying to antagonize Christians. It’s what I’m sincerely thinking, even if Christians will find it insulting. Perhaps there is something worthwhile about the questions we find difficult. Why is what Phelps says “hate” and what the great puritan minister Jonathan Edwards preached like the famed sermon “Sinner in the Hand of Angry God” during the Great Awaking in pre-Revolutionary America not hate? Both dwell on God’s hatred of humans as they are. It’s a message both found in the Bible. And didn’t the Puritans torture to death the homosexuals in their society? Phelps doesn’t seem egregious relative Christian history to me.

The only reason I see that we say that Phelps is unacceptable is because times have changed. Rick Warren and other megaChurch leaders don’t want Phelps’ message to interfere with their branding.

I’m well aware other people have read the Bible in other ways, but I don’t see a major reason to think Phelps is wrong–just as I don’t see that Jerry Falwell was wrong, nor do I see that very liberal Bishop Spong is wrong. I see all these readings as admissible reasons of the Bible. It’s the efforts to rule out a thoughtful reading of the Bible that I find doubtful.

thuja on January 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM

I thought Australia was the Land of the Vegemite Damned.

Nosferightu on January 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM

I just can’t bring myself to watch this tripe. Westboro is no church; it’s a cult that consistently blasphemes the name of Christ.

Tim on January 25, 2008 at 10:57 AM

Dittos

Nosferightu on January 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM

thuja on January 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM

That’s an excellent question, and one that serves to highlight the differences between the hate that Phelps spews, and the gospel presented by Edwards & others.

The Bible says that God is indeed angry with sin because God is eternally good, righteous, and holy. If we expect imperfect human justice to punish murderers & rapists – than surely the perfect justice of God would go far beyond that. Yet the Bible also shows that God poured out His wrath upon Christ at the cross – thereby making forgiveness available to everyone who calls upon the name of Jesus in repentance & faith.

Right there is the difference between Phelps & Edwards. Phelps is hate, hate, hate, and some more hate on the side. His view of righteousness is purely self-righteousness…which the Bible clearly states is no better than filthy rags. There is no gospel ever presented by Phelps; simply a disgust for anyone that’s not personally approved by him.

Edwards on the other hand, shares the full gospel very clearly – specifically in the sermon he’s most famous for. Quoting:

What would not those poor damned hopeless souls give for one day’s opportunity such as you now enjoy!

And now you have an extraordinary opportunity, a day wherein Christ has thrown the door of mercy wide open, and stands in calling and crying with a loud voice to poor sinners; a day wherein many are flocking to him, and pressing into the kingdom of God. Many are daily coming from the east, west, north and south; many that were very lately in the same miserable condition that you are in, are now in a happy state, with their hearts filled with love to him who has loved them, and washed them from their sins in his own blood, and rejoicing in hope of the glory of God.

Obviously the sermon goes on from there – but as you can see, Edwards not only shared the truth about sin, but also of mercy & grace available through Christ.

Does that answer your question?

Tim on January 25, 2008 at 11:12 AM

I’ve already seen a transcript of what these bastards said and given their record on such matters, I no longer feel any need or desire to listen to it as well. Reading it was sickening enough and hearing his voice is just as annoying and awful to listen to as Hillary’s.

Yakko77 on January 25, 2008 at 11:14 AM

Oh dude. Lost a response I just wrote to thuja. AP – is there anyway it could be retrieved? Help!

Tim on January 25, 2008 at 11:14 AM

Guess I was impatient…never mind! Thanks!

Tim on January 25, 2008 at 11:15 AM

thuja,
I’ll answer this as best I can.

Puritanism and many forms of that particular brand of Christianity has its place, I suppose. But what happens is what Jesus always said about the Pharisees in the Bible – people taking the word of God and hitting people over the head with it. Jesus spoke about basically loving someone into the family of God, not blasting them with “You’re a sinner, you’re going to the bad place, you’re a terrible, terrible person” because it just makes people mad.

God is to be feared, that is for certain, but we are also given the opportunity to approach Him as a child approaches his loving and compassionate father.

That is what this Phelps person and his church are distorting. Self righteousness and condemnation will not turn people to God. Screaming at people during funerals will not make them repent.

Brokeness in knowing your own faults and knowing you’re not good enough is what God desires of us. Knowing we need God to forgive us for what we do, what we say, what we are. Knowing we are not good enough on our own.

Phelps is distorting the doctrines of Jesus for his own. He is using his church to forward his own theologies to the detriment of all other churches. He is perverting the message so that he can feel like he is the only messenger of God and driving people further away from their Christian friends and neighbours.

That’s the problem most people in the church have with Phelps. Churches are now acknowledging the mess ups they made of the church and how people’s desires over-rode the message.

mjk on January 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

Where did you find that Huckabee campain ad?

conservnut on January 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM

Ha ha, I wish i’da thunk that up.

TheSitRep on January 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM

Livefreeordie on January 25, 2008 at 11:22 AM

The sorry result of about ten generations of intensive inbreeding.

whitetop on January 25, 2008 at 11:28 AM

The part that chilled me the most wasn’t this old fart spewing his crap; it was the little robot kids spewing his crap, and the “hymn singing” about how God hates the world. 0_o

Don’t get me wrong, homosexuality is a gross sin, and I’m against it completely. However, these people have taken one sin and turned it into the ONLY ISSUE that matters. Sorry folks, but there’s a LOT more wrong with the world than homosexuality. It’s merely a symptom of a larger disease.

It’s one thing to stand up for morality; it’s quite another to tarnish all of Christianity by spewing un-Christlike bile like this.

MrJustice on January 25, 2008 at 11:29 AM

My apologies for the premature post…

Where did you find that Huckabee campain ad?

conservnut on January 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM

Ha ha, I wish i’da thunk that up.

TheSitRep on January 25, 2008 at 8:56 AM

To relate Huckabee to this hateful individual is despicable conduct in and of itself. The majority of evangelicals would agree that Phelps is an extremist, including myself. Homosexuality IS a sin, however, evangelicals believe in showing love for ALL people (that doesn’t mean they legitimize the homosexual lifestyle).

Livefreeordie on January 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

To relate Huckabee to this hateful individual is despicable conduct in and of itself. The majority of evangelicals would agree that Phelps is an extremist, including myself. Homosexuality IS a sin, however, evangelicals believe in showing love for ALL people (that doesn’t mean they legitimize the homosexual lifestyle).

Livefreeordie on January 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

A joke man, Geez, lighten up.

You Hucksters have about as much sense of humor as the PaulTards do.

conservnut on January 25, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Anybody else wonder about a guy who rails about homosexuality this much?

If they have to edit out Fred shrieking about “homosexuals and their sculpted, hard and muscular.. and well-oiled…”

I mean, dude, really.

DRPrice on January 25, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Well, RDuke…if the shoe fits.

dakine on January 25, 2008 at 12:27 PM

So they show this nutjob all the time and claim he’s a representative of “right wing” Christianity, but never show those imams who wish death to the Great Satan? Class-say

mjk on January 25, 2008 at 9:04 AM

The Left needs to haul this guy out a lot to smooth the guilt of the Left for spitting on the military going back to the Vietnam war. It is also useful for redefining Christianity down

It is a shame this nut has been able to hurt so many people

The left is big on stopping ‘hate speech’ but only when it serves their purposes

This is a job for the Media Research Center. How much equal time is given to sharia supporters in the US?

entagor on January 25, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Tim

Excellent answer to thuja. May I just add emphasis to what you implied. When Edwards cautioned about God’s just hatred toward sin-he never excluded himself, while implicating others. Mr. Phelps gives every indication that he sees himself as being exempt from God’s wrath because he is above reproach.

As a Christian who takes Scripture seriously, I cannot affirm homosexual behavior, no more than I can affirm adultery or any other immoral act, however I see myself as being as deserving of God’s wrath probably more so, apart from Christ, then anyone else. The term bigots and gay-bashyers are too nice of terms to use for Fred Phelps and his cult-like parishioners. Fred Phelps is an embarrassment to true Christians, who view him with disgust, outrage and contempt.

Renae on January 25, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Dude.

After that, I demand more Spicoli as a pallet cleanser.

PolitiNOOB on January 25, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Tim and mjk, thanks for your answers. I did read them carefully and will think about them.

thuja on January 25, 2008 at 2:05 PM

I have to wonder if the Phelps clan is practicing incest, as they are so whacked out, it MUST be due to brain rot.

The most important of these is to love your God with all your heart, with all your mind and with all your soul. The second most important is to love your neighbor as yourself

Phelps, you need to read the WHOLE bible, not just the parts that fit your diseased mind.

Fuzzball on January 25, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Are you sure that is Phelps? Looks more like Reverand Kane from Poltergeist.

Bicyea on January 25, 2008 at 3:02 PM

News memo to Fred Phelps: Your fifteen minutes were up a long time ago.

While in college, I had an encounter with one of his ilk. It went something like this:

fruitcake: “Hey, do you read the Bible?”
me: “Yeah.”
f: “Did you read it last night?”
me: “Yes, I did.”
f” “Whadd’ya read?”
me: “Philippians.”
f: “The whole book?”
me: “You got it, the whole book.”
f: “Let me tell you why you’re going to Hell…”
me: “I’ll be sure to say hi to you when I get there. Bye.”

flutejpl on January 25, 2008 at 3:03 PM

The guy deserves a real physical beat down.

Hilts on January 25, 2008 at 9:09 AM

That’s just it. That is exactly what the Phelps clan is hoping will happen when they go to college campuses and funerals of soldiers and everything they do. Several of Phelp’s relatives are lawyers and this is how this “flock” stays not just afloat, believe me, they pretend to be poor and Christian, but they’re really just money grubbing charlatans out to make a buck by pushing people to the point where they lose control. Then the litigation begins. They’re not what I would call Christians!
If there is a just God out there, these people will be judged harshly when they die.

4shoes on January 25, 2008 at 3:11 PM

You’d think that someone who used to sell chocolate would be less bitter…

deesine on January 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM

The media put this Westboro Baptist church and the Phelps clan on the map. If people just blew them off, they would simply fade away. Sure, it’s hate speech, but it’s free hate speech. Let the states bar them from being within X distance from the funerals at which they seek the attention and just ignore them. You people can’t possibly sit here and hold people to account for stifling free speech unless you grant these crazy Phelps people the same thing.

Levinite on January 25, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Yeah, how? … He’s not benefiting from the exposure;

Allahpundit on January 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM

There is no such thing as bad press. Keeping his nuttiness in the news (good or bad) just encourages him to more nuttiness. Which is what he wants.

The point being that we are doing what he wants. And doing what he wants us to do just encourages him to keep doing it. In my book this is enabling.

But then again, not keeping him in the news keeps us from reminding ourselves what a nutty crank-pot he is.

Lawrence on January 25, 2008 at 4:36 PM

He looks like a child molester – stone him!

txstar on January 25, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Don’t get upset. It’s just that he can’t spell “Gomorrah”…

mojo on January 25, 2008 at 4:50 PM

I think this is called “enabling”.

Yeah, how? He’s not rich. In fact, he owes the father of that Marine millions. He’s not benefiting from the exposure; on the contrary, society benefits from exposing and deriding it.

Allahpundit on January 25, 2008 at 9:39 AM

Zealots care about getting their message out AP. It’s not about money for him, just like it’s not about money for the Jihadists. Giving him exposure encourages him to keep it up.

TheBigOldDog on January 25, 2008 at 5:57 PM