Huckabee on Saddam’s WMDs: Have you checked Jordan yet?
posted at 4:35 pm on January 25, 2008 by Allahpundit
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On this day of saturation McCain-bashing, let us pause to remind ourselves that it could have been worse. Any truth to what Huck’s claiming here or is Ace right that he got caught flat-footed looking stupid and then foolishly played along, a la the “I meant to do that” scene in Pee Wee’s Big Adventure? Well, Zarqawi once stood accused of planning a chemical weapons attack in Amman; Georges Sada, the former Iraqi general who wrote a book about Saddam’s WMDs being smuggled out to Syria, later said he thought the weapons for the attack would have come from that stockpile. Does that scenario have anything to do with what Huck’s talking about here? Not really, but then this is the guy who thought the new NIE was four years old. Imagine him in a series of debates with, say, Obama. Oof.
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thank god this idiot won’t be the republican nominee
Defector01 on January 25, 2008 at 4:39 PM
atleast he brought that point up, too bad he got the countries wrong. Haven’t seen any other Repubs. running try to push back against the Dem/MSM spin about Iraq and WMD.
jp on January 25, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Like I am going to leave The King-Dirt-Napper Zarqawi over the Jordanian Government. The Jordanians released the video of the detained would-be attackers interviews…the guys came from Syria but trained with Zarqawi in Iraq prior to our invasion which puts al Qaeda and terrorism in Iraq prior to the invasion….
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 4:41 PM
To jump in line with the post…Huckabee is lost in the sauce. Messed up like a football bat.
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM
He’s thinking Syria, but said Jordan. When Matthews reminds him that he’s wrong, he continues on the Jordan train, making himself look even more idiotic.
amerpundit on January 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM
I meant to type BELIEVE…sorry
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM
I was watching this History Channel special on the Bible Codes (if you beleive that sort of thing) and there was mention these codes said the weapons were in the Bakkah Valley in Syria (something like that) which is near Jordan. Maybe there’s something to look at here.
Still not voting for him.
Pcoop on January 25, 2008 at 4:44 PM
AP, do you have the link to the original BBC or Sky article about the thwarted attack? I can’t find it anywhere.
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Clueless.
Does Huck have any idea the impact these baseless accusations have on our relations with our allies?
I would imagine the State Dept. is on high alert during these campaign seasons, just waiting to launch into crisis mode every time a candidate says something stupid. Wow, I’ll bet they’re busy now.
CliffHanger on January 25, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Pcoop,
Multiple sources have corroborated their whereabout as in the Bekka valley.
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Definately not ready for primetime.
omnipotent on January 25, 2008 at 4:48 PM
It’d be like that old Cosby? show - Kids say the darnedest things.
Spirit of 1776 on January 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM
SECOND LOOK AT FORREST GUMP!!
thirteen28 on January 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Bekka is considered a “no-go” zone, heavily fortified and controlled by Hizb’allah - Mugniyeh has been spotted there a few times although no one knows what he looks like now because of the amount of plastic surgery done to him.
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM
He may be referring to the equipment from Saddam’s nuke program that turned up in a Jordanian scrap yard in “04. Do you remember that AP? I think I actually remember reading that on your Allah Is In The House site back then.
Back when your campaign coverage included some of the best and most consistently funny photoshops in the history of the internets. Good times, good times. I miss Dean-O.
The Apologist on January 25, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Oh, Governor, I’m sorry…I think the country you were looking for there was Syria…Syria…ok, let’s take another look at the big board.
someguy on January 25, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Pssst.
Huckleberry.
Jordan is spelled S-Y-R-I-A. You know. The place the IDF lit up back in sept., 2007?
locomotivebreath1901 on January 25, 2008 at 4:50 PM
I LOLed.
I really have a hard time believing some people support this man.
SouthernDem on January 25, 2008 at 4:51 PM
I used to think that at best Huckabee was Bush without the stuttering and verbal faux pas. How wrong I was. Thank you Fred Thomson for denying this guy the buckle on the bible belt.
BohicaTwentyTwo on January 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Hmm, hven’t done this in awhile, so I might be rusty…
HUCKASCHMUCK! HUCKASCHMUCK! HUCKASCHMUCK!
Frozen Tex on January 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Not rusty at all. :-)
amerpundit on January 25, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Huckabee didn’t say the government of Jordan took the WMDs, did he? Al Qaeda had lots of allies in Jordan and it seems to me that after that terror plot was discovered, the mastermind was suspected of being Jordanian. I vaguely remember news stories about the family of the suspect, in Jordan, fearing for their safety.
If memory serves, the sarin or vx ( I forget which ) was to be used against the government in Jordan. Although, it’s true enough that it would have been appropriate to call these “terrorist elements in Jordan” instead of “Jordan” because it implies government involvement.
Buddahpundit on January 25, 2008 at 4:58 PM
They also found Iraqi equipment AND personnel manning and maintaining Iraqi WMD artifacts in Libya when Qaddafi came clean thanks to the PSI.
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 4:59 PM
The baathist party that ruled Iraq also rules Syria. But some saddamites have hid in jordan including ex wives of saddam.
William Amos on January 25, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Although Jordan sponsors certain amounts of terrorism via complacency and stupidity, it is not a threat. By history and the nature of the leaders there, it is not a major source of terrorism and frankly, the leaders are a little too afraid of those crazy Jewish neighbors to attempt anything too terrorist in nature (considering what happens everytime they do so).
The WMD’s are in the Bekka Valley in Syria. Chinless Wonder in Damascus has never learned from his mistakes in dealing with the Israelis and will continue to play puppetmaster to Hezb’allah and its ilk.
mjk on January 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Buddah, the mastermind was Jordanian, his name was Zarqawi–how does this mitigate Huckabee’s lack of basic National Security knowledge?
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 5:02 PM
It’s a losing proposition. Do you know how silly a candidate would look trying to explain that there really, really were WMDs in Iraq right before we invaded, but they got shipped out at the last minute?
Doesn’t matter how much truth there is to the argument, until it’s proveable it sounds like apologetic spin.
They’re a lot better off just focusing on the here and now rather than re-debating justifications for the Iraq War. Whether the war was a mistake or not became a moot point the moment the first shot was fired- the only real concern should be what we do now.
Hollowpoint on January 25, 2008 at 5:06 PM
First, Jordan is an ally of the west and the US particularly. That is why Zarqawi tried to hit them with chem agents, attempting to kill 50,000+ folks in Amman. The existence of active terror cells in a country does not make that country a terror sponsor.
Second, Bekka is wholly inside the Lebanese borders, however they have admitted they can’t control it…Syria provides weapons, equip. training, as does Iran to Hezb’allah who OWN the Bekka Valley.
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Good point HP.
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 5:09 PM
I have actually heard this before…I don’t think it was a mistake.
Do you actually think Jordan is our ally?
First of all Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was jordanian!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi
The king of jordan is a direct descendant of the false prophet mo-shamm-ed!
http://www.kingabdullah.jo/main.php?main_page=0&lang_hmka1=1
Huck meant that WMD’s were moved to jordan and is ahead of the curve…what better place to move them to a so called ally?
HaraldHardrada on January 25, 2008 at 5:12 PM
what better place to move them than to a so called ally?
HaraldHardrada on January 25, 2008 at 5:14 PM
What a terrible thing to have lost one’s mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is.
- Dan Quayle
MB4 on January 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Harald, Johnny Walker Lind and Padilla were American Terrorists…I guess America isn’t an ally of …. America either.
Yes Jordan is our ally. Easy attacking the viability of another’s religion…I have problems with the lack of reform too but has anyone ever told you not to step on someone else’s beliefs?
How in the name of Zeus’s butt-hole do you know what Mr. Class warfare Huck meant. That’s rich. Ahead of the curve?
Tell me you are kidding…please..
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 5:16 PM
The Huckster is utterly clueless on anything regarding foreign policy, as he’s demonstrated time after time. Hell, Obama’s an empty suit, and even he might know more about the world than this fraud.
ReubenJCogburn on January 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM
So what if Jordan is America’s Ally? So is Egypt, so is Saudi Arabia, so is Germany. Ally does not mean friend. Ally means someone you can turn to for solely political purposes, but do not delude yourself into thinking it means buddy or anything more than someone who is expedient for political purposes. Jordan would turn on America in a second. Ally is a very very fragile thing, especially in the Middle East. Don’t pretend to assume that it means anything if America lost its power in anything. The only true friend America has in the Middle East is Israel and even that has been tested several (hundred) times.
Lebanon controls nothing. Haven’t you learned anything from the Hezb’allah/Israeli war? Lebanon has controlled nothing since about 1949 when the PLO and its ilk showed up on its doorstep and the Lebanese let them in. Syria and Iran control Lebanon. Hezb’allah and the Lebanese government are puppets of the Syrian Chinless Wonder. As the Chinless wonder is a puppet of Iran. For all intents and purposes, anything that is considered Lebanese land is actually Syrian. It just hasn’t been announced “formally” yet. But everyone knows it.
mjk on January 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM
And finally Jordan may not “officially” sponsor terrorism the way Iran does, but they certainly support it. They kill Christians, they use Islamic law to enforce their stuff (you know what I mean by “enforce”). When you cross from Israel into Jordan, you have to switch buses so you aren’t in a bus with Hebrew on it. Guess why? There are land mines between the border of Jordan and Israel. There are walls between Jordan and Israel.
The Jordanians aren’t as bad as they used to be, but guess what? Israel is surrounded by neighbours on all sides that although they aren’t all doing it right now, they blow up Israelis in a millisecond.
mjk on January 25, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Momma said Huckabee’s beliefs is like a box a chock-lits … ya nevuh know what ya gonna git.
thirteen28 on January 25, 2008 at 5:29 PM
Wow. Just… wow. The ignorance is astounding.
The King of Jordan has been quite aggressive in shutting down the Islamacist radicals there.
And if you knew anything about Muslims, you’d know that damn near EVERY Arab Muslim claims to be a direct descendant of Mohammed.
Hollowpoint on January 25, 2008 at 5:29 PM
I just said Lebanon doesn’t control the Beqqa region, I learned plenty from the summer offensive, Israel probably learned that we are more of an ally and less of a friend…
my comment addressed the official political boundaries of the the aforementioned region…oh..and you don’t know Lebanon…
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 5:30 PM
I’m pretty sure Huck said that same fact during the debate as well. I remember hearing it and thinking “does he mean that or Syria?” And I know I didn’t hear it on the post-debate (I didn’t watch) or anywhere else online. So he must mean what he said, or at least is quite confident in it. Whichever.
Wineaholic on January 25, 2008 at 5:31 PM
LOL. That was funny.
Spirit of 1776 on January 25, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Get a clue. Your Huck-can-do-no-wrong bit is getting tired and makes you sound ridiculous.
someguy on January 25, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Nothing, and I mean nothing beats baseless conjecture fixed on adolescent reverse-gotcha-ism.
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 5:36 PM
You are the one who sounds ridiculous.. I remember you all saying Mubarak Hussein Obama said we should go into pakistan to UBL and you all said that’s ridiculous…but when Huckabee and Giuliani say it… it makes sense.
The only difference is Mubarak Hussein’s campaign is entirely lying about doing that or even wanting to do that and remember..Mubarak Hussein Obama is the same guy saying we should surrender to al qaeda and get out of iraq right now…so he he has ZERO credibility.
But Huckabee and Giuliani are saying we should go into pakistan to get UBL and that we HAVE to win in iraq and therefore, they actually have credibility when they say it and are consistent.
HaraldHardrada on January 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Personally I’m amazed how eager some people are to consider Jordan an ally.
Just like Saudi Arabia’s an ally, I guess.
Reaps on January 25, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Jordon doesn’t sound too far fetched. That is after all the same country that is giving Saddam’s family sanctuary.
SoulGlo on January 25, 2008 at 6:40 PM
All he had to say was, the war was justified by the fact that Saddam violated UN Resolution 1441 and we didn’t need anymore justification for the war than that.
Spolitics on January 25, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Reaps, SoulGlo, keep ignoring the Syrian and Iranian Elephants in the room….on what do you base your,
comment? I believe enough evidence is out there to pinpoint who the fair weather allies are and who the enemies are…ignorance would be the only reason you lump Saudi Arabia and Jordan into the same group….We had bin Laden’s family here and let them leave immediately after 9/11, what does that make America, America’s worst enemy?
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 6:44 PM
So true Spolitics
ColdBore76 on January 25, 2008 at 6:44 PM
To the first commenter, Huckabee isn’t an idiot. I respect the fact that he’s not changing like the wind like most American with short memories.
Long story short, my husband is active duty Army and we’ve been a military family for 14 1/2 years. Most of our friends are military as well.
One friend was Special Forces in 2003. He told us at dinner not long ago that when he was undercover traveling through Iraq toward Turkey to make a deal with the Turkish government for the U.S. to use their landing strips for the initial invasion into Iraq, which didn’t work out well (he dressed much like Special Forces do Afghanistan in terms of clothing, beard, etc) that he came across a long line of flat bed truck leaving Iraq into Syria. They were carrying what looked like makeshift laboratories and barrels..much like Colin Powell’s slides at the U.N. making the case for Iraq’s WMD.
It is widely understood among the military, at least those who’ve actually served in Special Forces, Rangers or OIF or OEF, that Saddam did indeed have WMD and shipped most to Syria, which until recently had been an exporter of terrorism into Iraq. This common knowledge among the military squares with Huckabee’s assertion, although he’s one country off, as well as GEN Sada and other former Iraqi military and scientists.
I also remember watching the Marines in 2003 in Baghdad as I watched CNN to see if my hubby was in Baghdad yet with the 82nd. They uncovered large tubes and missiles in the backyards of Baathist officials. They were filled with chemicals.
You don’t need a stockpile to do damage.
It appears to me in retrospect that Iraq tried to get rid of its nuclear program the same year Iran did.
Amy Proctor on January 25, 2008 at 8:26 PM
PS.. the missiles were small in the backyards of Baath Party leaders. The tubes and cannisters were large.
Amy Proctor on January 25, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Somebody should break it to old Huck that you can Bull$hit most of the people in Arkansas most of the time but you can’t Bull$shit many of the people anywhere else any of the time.
EJDolbow on January 25, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Speaking of Iraq’s WMD, we are coming up on a 20 year anniversary - never forget.
labrat on January 26, 2008 at 12:51 AM
This from a guy who has a degree in Bible studies from Ouachita Bible College. I’m surprised he didn’t say he thought the weapons were hidden in Decapolis.
NNtrancer on January 26, 2008 at 1:34 AM
Thanks to your husband for his service, and you all as well.
Huckabee would be a nice neighbor, probably would be a good city councilman.
But the power of commutation in his hands, as guv, has proven deadly.
Pray God he doesn’t get close to 1600 PA Ave.
Someone who knows his limits and stays in the shallow end of the pool is not an idiot.
Huckabee is an idiot.
silverfox on January 26, 2008 at 3:18 AM
(Future conversation overheard in the Huckabee White House)
H: They bombed our embassy and I immediately authorized a massive retaliation.
VP: Against who?
H: Why the perpetrators…the Indonesians, of Course!!
VP: Don’t you mean the Iranians?
H: DAMN!!!
landlines on January 26, 2008 at 9:25 AM
Heh.
labrat on January 26, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Doofus.
But at least he won’t be a doofus with his finger on the button.
Tzetzes on January 27, 2008 at 4:24 AM