Sessions has some big fat brass ones!

SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 4:53 PM

I am an Alabama girl and I am very proud of Jeff Sessions. If you recall, Sessions was the one who brought the amnesty sham into the light of day.

Repeat from Petraeus thread, but applies here too

Petraeus/Sessions

1. Cheney doesn’t feel so good and retires
2. Bush 43 names Petraeus VP
3. Petraeus runs for president in ‘08
4. Liberals wet any type of clothing they wear, or skin, if naked.
5. Conservatives are wet from drooling, and other losses of control.

Seriously, why do some people get all heated up about a high profile person in a Republican Administration when you don’t know the first thing about their beliefs? I remember when there was talk of Colin Powell running for office, then it was Condi Rice… Neither one actually ran the State Department as conservatives wished, and neither actually seems very conservative when you here them talk. Just because you are doing a good job for a Republican doesn’t translate into being a good Republican. Also just because you are in the military doesn’t make you conservative (Wesley Clark anyone)?

bete noires

AP, you are my idol.

peski on January 24, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Bêtes noirs

dominigan on January 24, 2008 at 8:40 PM

I agree, it’s only a matter of time before the “racist!” screaming begins. Then you know you have won the argument.

If illegal entry and presence are so minor, I am coming over to your house to make myself at home, Big S. After all, I am only trying to make a better life for myself.

Ah, nativism.

Big S on January 24, 2008 at 7:09 PM

Ah, name calling… the last resort of someone who cannot logically defend their position.

Borders, Language, Culture…dude without it no sovereignty only balkanization, no understanding only confusion, no assimulation only dissimulation…anarchy, chaos, death and destruction…like manhatten island in Batman Begins.

Ah, nativism.

Big S on January 24, 2008 at 7:09 PM

Ah… open border Anarchist…

I don’t want them in jail or in court. Just please go home.

Ah, nativism.

Here is YOUR backyard in the coming years, with your attitude. (I assume the brothel accepts cash.)

fred5678 on January 24, 2008 at 6:45 PM

fred5678, I’m always glad when you link to that video. Please do so in every amnesty-related thread. That is 15-20 min. from my place and next to multi-million dollars homes. The pretty madonnas pick them up in their very fancy sportscars, for all kinds of cheap labor. Mind you they are married to very rich liberals, or exploiting Capitalists. But the liberals are for ‘change’, ‘human rights’, and ‘progress’. Yep, we believe everything we hear!

E, is that chin a little higher then it was earlier? If so, keep it up my friend.

Now I have to go clean myself up. Sorry.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Chin a bit higher. Saw your note on the other thread, and responded. Also, MB4 shared a great FL article, on Michelle/amnesty thread, with things looking up, at least a bit more than this morning.

On your latter point, not to worry. You’re not the first one :) Ok, I blushed (sensitive to blush, but not enough to not say write it – the product of a great love, of two very different parents, for good, and for bad).

On serious note, not giving up, and still hopeful. Out of the fire we might yet spring.

You just don;t get it.
You’ve created this kind of Frankenstein monster

I haven’t created anything, except a few businesses.

Seven amnesties since 1986 have created the monster. And apologists including Bush, Kennedy, McCain, you, et al, perpetuate it.

Admit it – the anarchy of massive illegal immigration facilitates the minority of drug runners, human traffickers, sexual predators, etc., etc. invading our country. If you insist on excusing the many “honest illegal workers” you also excuse the hardened criminal element that is included in the flood (unless you know about a magic filtering system??). And this flood includes over 140,000 OTM’s annually that are caught (maybe 1/4 of the total) from every terror-sponsoring country in the world.

of all of the worst things that individual illegal immigrants have done, and applied that standard to all of them.

I apply no such standard. I make no assumptions. I just want ALL of our laws enforced. You obviously prefer anarchy.

Many, if not most, illegal immigrants have done none of this except the illegal entry, which is not a criminal infraction in any case,

Just a misdemeanor – less than a year in jail.

I don’t want them in jail or in court. Just please go home. And attrition through enforcement is working – just listen to this illegal alien.

and working for cash. There are tons of regular Americans who work for cash under the table as well, and although I wouldn’t call these people 100% honest, they are more LESS honest than many.

Big S on January 24, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Here is YOUR backyard in the coming years, with your attitude. (I assume the brothel accepts cash.)

No thanks. I’ll vote for law enforcement.

Back to work. It’s been fun.

Big S on January 24, 2008 at 6:34 PM

Irrelevant to the fact that it is against the law. The government not enforcing it’s own law is a separate problem. The illegal is still breaking a law which makes him/her by definition a criminal.

Big S on January 24, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Hmmm…

by the nature of being ILLEGAL Immigrants… they are here without permission.

Strike One.

In order to stay here, they have to be able to make a living, or live off the “welfare” state. Either way they need either a Taxpayer ID number, or SSN to work. Because they are here illegaly, they can legaly have neither. So to work for most companies, they HAVE to be commiting Identity theft, or using forged documents.

Either that, or they are working illegaly… another law broken.

Strike Two…

To drive in this country, which you pretty much HAVE to do to work… you have to have a drivers license… and it is illegal for “undocumented aliens” to get drivers licenses in most states… so again… its either identity theft, or using fraudulent docs to drive… or just drive without a license…

So, with all this DISHONESTY going on for an individual to stay in this country… how can you call them “honest”?

If you are here illegally are a criminal. Maybe not a serious criminal but a criminal still.

Oldnuke on January 24, 2008 at 6:32 PM

The government does not deal with cases of illegal presence as crimes.

I did make a mistake. I meant illegal presence, not entry.

Big S on January 24, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Call it what you want, it’s still an illegal act and a criminal one, not administrative. Reentry in some cases is a felony. Overstaying a visa is a misdemeanor, A crime. If you are here illegally are a criminal. Maybe not a serious criminal but a criminal still.

He broke everything down into simple yes-or-no questions to prevent equivocation and evasion. We’ll see how that works. I’ll have a little something to say about this right before the debate…….

If they’re here illegally do they have a social security or tax number?

How did they get it?

Oldnuke on January 24, 2008 at 6:25 PM

I did make a mistake. I meant illegal presence, not entry.

You just don;t get it.
Big S on January 24, 2008 at 6:20 PM

Apparently you don’t get it.

A misdemeanor, or misdemeanour, in many common law legal systems, is a “lesser” criminal act. Misdemeanors are generally punished less severely than felonies; but theoretically more so than administrative infractions (also known as regulatory offenses). Many Misdemeanors are punished with monetary fines.

If they’re here illegally do they have a social security or tax number?

How did they get it?

But… just a stab in the dark… but bet your also against having to show Photo ID to vote?

Romeo13 on January 24, 2008 at 6:18 PM

Actually, I’m in favor of a mandatory national biometric ID for all citizens, as well as legal immigrants. That’s really the easiest way to solve the whole problem, but a bunch of privacy nuts (like many on this board) are so adamantly against it that no Republican can include it in their plans.

You avoid ansering the question. If an illegal alien is working, how are they getting paid? I repeat for your convenience:

Which part of honest? The misdemeanor of first illegal entry, the felony of re-entering after deportation, the felony of a stolen ID, the $250,000 fine for making up an otherwise unused social security number, or just plain working for cash and severely pissing off the IRS?

fred5678 on January 24, 2008 at 6:14 PM

You just don;t get it. You’ve created this kind of Frankenstein monster of all of the worst things that individual illegal immigrants have done, and applied that standard to all of them. Many, if not most, illegal immigrants have done none of this except the illegal entry, which is not a criminal infraction in any case, and working for cash. There are tons of regular Americans who work for cash under the table as well, and although I wouldn’t call these people 100% honest, they are more honest than many.

I’d like to see McCain’s solution to this: El Paso hospital needs guards armed with assault weapons to defend against Mexican drug cartels.

fred5678 on January 24, 2008 at 5:48 PM

“…I’m not going to call that cartel shooter and tell him his mother’s being deported!”

Big S on January 24, 2008 at 6:10 PM

Um… you do know that this system already exists?

And that some of us EMPLOYERS have been using it for quite awhile now?

Its not any worse than the usualy state paperwork you have to fill out on emplyees anyway… with the EXACT same info on it in fact. You know, that little form you have to fill out for unemployment insurance? And the one for Taxes?

I’m NOT a big government person… but this is one place the government needs to be involved due to an ongoing problem…

But… just a stab in the dark… but bet your also against having to show Photo ID to vote?