Video: “Democrats’ Worst Nightmare”
posted at 3:50 pm on January 24, 2008 by Bryan
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Johnny Mac’s new ad, well made and entertaining. It’s one of McCain’s two central story lines: He’s a national security hawk and he can beat the Democrats. The ad’s central flaw, however, is that it’s based on polls that don’t mean very much because they’re so far out from the actual election (Carter led Reagan at this point, and Dukakis led Bush 41 coming out of the conventions, for instance) and that McCain is also the conservatives’ worst nightmare. Electing him is no guarantee that any conservative position will be defended against a Democrat Congress. It also conveniently leaves out the fact that John McCain almost became a Democrat himself in 2001. McCain holds the distinction of being the only candidate who keeps members of both parties up at night — one side claims to fear going against him, and one side fears having to support him. Such is the life of the Maverick.
Still, it’s a good ad.
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And I think, our nightmare
Kini on January 24, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Hear hear.
Vizzini on January 24, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Well, what do conservatives fear most? Same answer
Utah Boy on January 24, 2008 at 3:52 PM
Who, according to Tom DeLay, tried to undermine the Pentagon every step of the way after 9/11. Oh, and won’t support enhanced interrogations to protect the nation.
amerpundit on January 24, 2008 at 3:53 PM
Who is the one candidate that keeps Conservatives up at night?
John McCain.
malan89 on January 24, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Election 2008 National Head-to-Head Polls
bnelson44 on January 24, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Great.
amerpundit on January 24, 2008 at 3:55 PM
John McCain on the Issues
bnelson44 on January 24, 2008 at 3:55 PM
HE IS “AMERICA’S WORST NIGHTMARE”!
woodswalking1 on January 24, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Opposed the Bush tax cuts, Gang of 14, McCain-Feingold, no enhanced interrogation, amnesty…
amerpundit on January 24, 2008 at 3:57 PM
Mitt should do a parody of this ad for conservatives worst nightmare, that would be incredibly funny.
lan astaslem on January 24, 2008 at 3:57 PM
So basically, John McCain is running on not being a Uniter, but a Divider. Cool, huh?
Seixon on January 24, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Ugh. As Bryan points out, the polls mean very very little at this point. For instance, Romney’s numbers are most likely low because he has a very low name recognition among liberals and independents outside of primary states. Hillary’s numbers against him aren’t higher than they are against others; it’s just that his are lower.
If a Republican wants to vote strategically (a mindset I share, in part), he has to try to envision what the race will look like 8 months from now–no easy task. Think about who is most vulnerable to a negative media narrative and who is most able to force a Dem to fight on Republican issues.
For McCain, I think the “he’s too old” meme is a real danger, especially as you see Edwards go into the “crazy” attack on him; it sounds like a veiled dementia attack to me. It also guarantees that the election will be looking back to 2003 and the Iraq war. That’s probably not a winning recipe for Republicans.
Nessuno on January 24, 2008 at 3:58 PM
If Mitt wins, it will be because his poll numbers inched up day by day from low single digits. He will do the same against the Democrat nominee, because that is what solid executives do: execute a plan.
McCain has been getting fawning coverage for years because he makes entertaining news, so everyone knows about him.
pedestrian on January 24, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Just in case you missed what Bryan wrote.
lan astaslem on January 24, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Are we really suppose to believe the Democrats when they say they fear John McCain, and not Romney…sounds like a briar rabbit to me.
Conservative Voice on January 24, 2008 at 4:01 PM
Awesome. How do we get word to Romney’s camp? This ad would rock.
Nessuno on January 24, 2008 at 4:01 PM
This is the Dems version of the Bin Laden pre-election video. Are Republicans too stupid to see what they’re up to? They’re purposely telling everyone in the world they can’t beat John McCain so we’ll nominate another liberal who they know will “walk across the aisle” and give them everything they want.
Wake up! Does anyone really think every Dem candidate, and people like Bob Beckel are so stupid as to repeatedly tell us how to beat them?
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:02 PM
A McCain nomination might push me to vote for Hillary. Their policy positions for the most part are not that different, but it’d be easier to oppose them if Hillary is the prez.
Labamigo on January 24, 2008 at 4:02 PM
You guys have been saying that for about 6 months now, and nothing changes.
bnelson44 on January 24, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Exactly, and as an added bonus … McCain’s career would be over.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:03 PM
He’s a real nowhere man…
Zorro on January 24, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Go back and read what Bryan wrote:
The Republican convention isn’t even until September.
amerpundit on January 24, 2008 at 4:04 PM
If John Mccain is the republican nominee, then in reality we would have no republicans in the race…..our choice would be between two amnesty loving democrats.
HaraldHardrada on January 24, 2008 at 4:05 PM
It is pronounced “McQueed” – not McCain !!
jake-the-goose on January 24, 2008 at 4:05 PM
So apparently, bnelson44 is the McCain version of the Huckabee trolls.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:05 PM
McCain = Shamnesty.
Montana on January 24, 2008 at 4:06 PM
The MSM will be happy to push along this story line for Jonny McAmnesty too.
Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 4:06 PM
This is based on an article that claimed. “Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP.” Really? Well if Democrats say it, it must be true. Why would they lie? What could they possibly have had to gain by tainting a leading future Republican presidential candidate?
Oh yeah.
calbear on January 24, 2008 at 4:07 PM
And that’s coming from a Huckabee supporter? If its possible to be both right and wrong at the same time, you’re it.
Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Don’t blame it all on the MSM. Conservatives are joining in on the party. By tomorrow the video will be passed around on every conservative blog in the country.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:08 PM
If it comes down to McCain or Romney I will sit out both the Republican and general election. Frankly, Obama gets me more excited than them.
froghat on January 24, 2008 at 4:08 PM
HaraldHardrada and bnelson are pretty much the same, but with different Gods.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:09 PM
The Hill:
In one article, Marshall Wittman, a McCain loyalist and strategist six years ago, put the odds of McCain leaving the Republican Party at “50-50.” Wittman, who now works for Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), declined to comment for this article. A source said that Wittman’s comment at that time was “completely based on speculation.”
McCain consistently shot down the rumors, though (Chief McCain Political Strategist John)Weaver acknowledged this week that the senator did talk to Democrats about leaving the GOP.
amerpundit on January 24, 2008 at 4:11 PM
I’m still trying to figure out how John McCain is so popular. The media keeps telling us the Iraq war is unpopular and the bloggers keep telling us people are fed up with illegal aliens. He’s on the wrong side of both of those issues. I guess Republicans not only love Bush, but want another Bush clone. Interesting
froghat on January 24, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Unfortunately, John McCain is a conservative’s nightmare as well.
Spirit of 1776 on January 24, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Beckel? Beckel???? Do you think for one flippin minute these guys are most worried about McCain? Good grief. They know McCain gets about 30% of the conservatives out there to stay home on election day. Heck they won’t even run ads aimed at scaring their base. They’ll just run ads reminding conservatives of what a sell-out the Maverick is. They’ll also be non-stop with the mantra of how can we place the country in the hands of someone of that “advanced age.” (Don’t pretend they won’t.) And alas, we’d be forced to elect a sitting Senator as President. US Senators have become the biggest examples of what is wrong with the Washington aristocracy. Lord help us. Give me the chance to vote for a governor, or a mayor, or a dog catcher. ANYBODY but a Senator.
Sugar Land on January 24, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Mccain is a democrat RINO. Forget about him.. he almost became John Kerry’s running mate. He has no chance.
Romney is a total fraud. He launched his campaign for the Republican nomination by running contrary to virtually every major position and action he has previously taken in public life.
In other words, nothing he says today has any credibility. He cannot be believed.
HaraldHardrada on January 24, 2008 at 4:16 PM
If your into feelings, Obama and the Democrats are definitely the way to go.
fogw on January 24, 2008 at 4:16 PM
The pieces of the puzzle fit. Whats not to believe?
-Promoting Amnesty for Illegal Aliens
-Social security credit for illegals
-Criminal trials for terrorists
-stem cell research on human embryos
-Global Warming legislation
-Free-speech crushing campaign finance laws
-Opposition to Bush’s tax cuts
-Opposition to a marriage Amendment to the Constitution
-Opposition to waterboarding terrorists
-Opposition to drilling for oil in Alaska
-Called the Swiftboat vets “dishonest and dishonorable”
-Demanded OJ trials for terrorists at Gitmo
-Demanded that Gitmo detainees have full access to the intelligence files being used to prosecute them
John McCain on Bush’s tax cuts in 2001: “I cannot in good concience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of the middle class Americans who need tax relief.”
Yeah, calbear, doesn’t seem like much of a stretch to me. The question you should ask yourself is why NOT believe he was considering running as Kerry’s VP?
Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 4:17 PM
McCain is really good right where he is…in the RINO party.
He’s a Gerald Ford Repo that loves Kennedy, Goober Lindsey, and all the other liberals on the Hill.
I appreciate what he did in Vietnam. That’s the only thing that separates him from Hanoi Jane.
saved on January 24, 2008 at 4:20 PM
You just keep getting more amusing each day. As if Huckabee is trusted by anyone other than you and Chuck Norris.
Hell, you’re probably the least trustworthy person on HotAir (other than Tommylotto). Why would anyone listen to you?
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Good news about a McCain presidency
Has a bad temper and will call several people “little jerks” during his term…. check
Has a hot daughter… check
froghat on January 24, 2008 at 4:22 PM
McCain would do well, regardless of what the polls say now. He’s a moderate. His views might enrage the base of the Republican party that ends up deciding the nomination, but they resonate with the indepedents and moderate partisans that end up deciding the general election.
Romney might have the same advantage, owing to his history as the governor of a liberal state, but he’s buried that history too thoroughly to dig it up again in the general without earning the dreaded “flip-flopper” label.
And Rudy, well, just worry about Florida right now, Rudy. @#$%.
RightOFLeft on January 24, 2008 at 4:22 PM
I’m hoping Rudy will call McCain a little jerk tonight. If you’re gonna lose, at least go out attacking that SOB. lol
froghat on January 24, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Wrong. You can’t possibly win an election if 30% or more of your base decides to stay home and not vote, which is exactly what will happen.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:24 PM
That what they want us to think.
They now know we want buy the Huckster so they are selling Juanita Macarena.
TheSitRep on January 24, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Romney is a total fraud. He launched his campaign for the
I largely agree… but substitute Huckabee in place of Romney and I’d agree even more.
Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 4:26 PM
If you had stopped right there, you would have answered your own question. It’s today’s version (or this week’s) of the MSM’s “The Emperor’s New Clothes”. If they say it’s so, then the sheeple believe !
stenwin77 on January 24, 2008 at 4:26 PM
McCain’s smug a$$ smirk on his face just drives me nuts! I wish somebody would call him a little jerk tonight!
kcd on January 24, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Don’t confuse the blogosphere demographic with that of the general electorate. Yes, some will stay home, but 90% of the Republican base will pull the lever for the Republican candidate, even if it’s a RINO like McCain.
Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 4:30 PM
*wink*, “my friends.”
JiangxiDad on January 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Does anyone know if President Bush is a John McCain supporter?
froghat on January 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Just curious, where did you come up with 30%?
RightOFLeft on January 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM
This is erroneous. He has shifted toward more pro-life and more conservative issues as he has aged (who doesn’t). But the reason you are repeating this theme is because MSM wants to paint ANYONE that moves toward more conservative issues as a flip-flopper. McCain holds liberal positions so they love him. Mitt moves from them, so they label him as inconsistent and a flip-flopper. Plain as the nose on your face.
Spirit of 1776 on January 24, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Never thought I’d say this but count me in the “some will stay home” catagory. I could never pull the lever for McCain or Huckabee. It would make me feel like I was voting for a democrap regardless of the R beside their name.
kcd on January 24, 2008 at 4:33 PM
Breaking news: Romney campaigns in Harlem. Says he was always more of a black man. developing….
froghat on January 24, 2008 at 4:33 PM
ewww, that too!
kcd on January 24, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Everytime John McCain says “my friends” in the debate tonight eat a muffin. By the end of the night you will have gained 20 pounds.
froghat on January 24, 2008 at 4:36 PM
STILL meaningless. Is this your first presidential election?
These things are NEVER right – they are still only about name recognition. Once each side has their (wo)man, then these polls become credible.
EJDolbow on January 24, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Bush is apparently staying out of this race, which is really for the better.
amerpundit on January 24, 2008 at 4:37 PM
At first I thought Liberal nightmare was that they found a
second black dress,only this time it was Hillarys!
Since the Liberals and media have already crowned the
Republican nominee McCain, might as well pack up the bus
and signs,good lord!
And as McCain thinks the lib media is in love with his
run for Prez,the political knives will come out.
Every time a Republican thinks hes getting decent,fair
media coverage and is lulled into complacency,they get
whacked by the Lib media every time,and so far the their
plan is right on schedule!
canopfor on January 24, 2008 at 4:38 PM
It’s not identity politics that is driving the Huckabee movement..he doen’t even have 100% of the evangelicals(yet)…it is the issues!
Mike Huckabee will pass the human life amendment and outlaw abortion!
Mike Huckabee will pass an affirmation of marriage amendment and ban gay marriage!
Mike Huckabee will pass the fair tax and abolish the socialist income tax once and for all!
Mike Huckabee will prevent amnesty and deport illegals!
Mike Huckabee will not hestitate to pre-emptively nuke Iran!
Mike Huckabee will prevent unfair trade deals with china.
Mike Huckabee will protect our sovereignty from UN and CFR one world government believers!
Mike Huckabee will make this country energy independent within eight years!
Duncan Hunter endorsed Mike Huckabee and will be his eventual VP….check out Mike Huckabee.
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=HQs.Home
HaraldHardrada on January 24, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Because The Democrats know that many core Republicans think like that, and don’t need any real evidence to believe what they suspect about McCain. If he’d wanted to switch, and if it were true that he was a solid Democrat in Republican’s clothing, he could have beaten Kerry in 2004, not just run with him. After all, that was the election where the Democrats wanted “electability,” and there’s no question McCain could have beaten Bush in a general election. But he did none of these.
McCain believes in a lot of things that aren’t on the Republican party platform. But that doesn’t mean he’s ready to join the Democrats. Sorry, but incredible accusations require definitive evidence, and there’s just none of that here. You are free to believe what some Democrat invented, but I’m not sure how that makes you a better conservative than those who might not.
calbear on January 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM
I disagree totally. Voters need to feel motivated if they’re to actually take the time to go to the polls. History has shown this to be true. There will be absolutely no motivation for conservatives to ask for time off of work, or to get up early to drive to the polls to vote for John McCain. Not a chance.
Here’s my prediction, and if I’m wrong I’ll be happy to admit it later. Voter turnout (percentage wise) will be at all-time lows and the GOP will lose in a landslide. I don’t think it will be as bad if Romney is the nominee, but most likely bad enough to cause us to lose.
If Huckabee is the nominee, you might actually have Republicans crossing over and voting for the opposition, especially if it’s Obama.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM
It’s not identity politics that is driving the Huckabee movement..he doen’t even have 100% of the evangelicals(yet)…it is the issues!Mike Huckabee will pass the human life amendment and outlaw abortion!
Mike Huckabee will pass an affirmation of marriage amendment and ban gay marriage!
Mike Huckabee will pass the fair tax and abolish the socialist income tax once and for all!
Mike Huckabee will prevent amnesty and deport illegals!
Mike Huckabee will not hestitate to pre-emptively nuke Iran!
Mike Huckabee will prevent unfair trade deals with china.
Mike Huckabee will protect our sovereignty from UN and CFR one world government believers!
Mike Huckabee will make this country energy independent within eight years!
Duncan Hunter endorsed Mike Huckabee and will be his eventual VP….check out Mike Huckabee.
Mike Huckabee will fail to get the nomination.
Spirit of 1776 on January 24, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Everytime John McCain says “my friends” in the debate tonight
eat a muffindo a shot of Tequila. By the end of the night you willhave gained 20 poundsbe in la-la land.froghat on January 24, 2008 at 4:36 PM
There, just a tweek..
kcd on January 24, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Pretty much every poll taken on the subject. Conservatives will not vote for John McCain.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:41 PM
So am I, but for every blog commenter who stays home in disgust, there will be ten Republicans who’d still vote McCain should he get nominated.
While I also disapprove of Romney as a candidate, I strongly disagree with the notion that his religion should make him unworthy of support. Still, the sad reality is that some Republican voters will stay home rather than vote Mormon. Whether McCain or Romney would get a higher Republican turnout is impossible to determine.
Welcome to 2006, part II: Democrats don’t deserve to win, Republicans deserve to lose.
Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 4:41 PM
We haaave checked him out, hence the criticism.
kcd on January 24, 2008 at 4:44 PM
‘Complete reordering’ of GOP field in Calif., new poll shows
bnelson44 on January 24, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Every time a Dem. opens their mouth about a Rep., it’s a lie. So if they say they fear Mc Fluff, it’s a lie.
They would love to run against Mc Fluff so no matter who wins the election, they would have a liberal in the White House.
leanright on January 24, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Well said. Thought the same thing today. If a Republican nominee cannot get elected because of religious discrimination, then the libs have a point about “us”.
JiangxiDad on January 24, 2008 at 4:45 PM
McCain isnt Senile by any stretch of the Imagination.. With a little help from his friends in the media he could quite possibly be the GOP Presidential Nominee! Maybe the Dems will lend us some of their PEST Meds… I forgot what it stands for but it had something to do with Post Election Syndrome. Its going to be a bitter pill to swallow folks, but God sent us a few Good Guys.. some “Conservatives” said they weren’t Polished enough, or they didnt Want it bad enough, or their bellies werent fired up enough ;).. So… “Like the dog returning to its vomit,so a fool returneth to its folly”. (Proverbs 26:11)
LibsREvilDoers on January 24, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Why is this clown even allowed to post here at HotAir? I understand that everyone has a right to their opinion, but he’s not posting his opinion. He’s spamming for a campaign. He’s repeatedly posting the same pre-configured comments in every single thread. Not only that, but his comments are filled with misinformation and distortions.
Spamming is grounds for immediate banning.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:46 PM
I’m sure it’ll be too much to ask some voters to expend the energy it takes to lift a pen to mark their absentee ballots, affix a postage stamp and walk it to thier mailboxes if the best we can do is McCain.
CliffHanger on January 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM
The motivation wouldn’t be for McCain, but against the Democrat- especially if Hillary wins the nomination.
How many of us who voted for GWB in 2004 did so because we were so greatly inspired by him? I wasn’t- I was voting against Kerry. However, after watching Bush and congressional Republicans screw up time and again- especially on spending- I’m not playing the “lesser of two evils” game this time.
Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Mike Huckabee will make this country energy independent
within eight years!
HaraldHardrada on January 24,2008 at 4:38PM.
HaraldHardrada:Energy dependent in eight years!
Can I get that on paper,signed
by Huckabee,in his own blood!
canopfor on January 24, 2008 at 4:49 PM
I’m not quite sure if you meant to agree with me or not, but I think you’re right. It WILL be too to expect and they won’t do it.
Hey, but maybe he’ll actually end up winning by getting the liberal vote. They don’t like Hillary either.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Ditto Hollowpoint.Great minds think alike ; )
kcd on January 24, 2008 at 4:52 PM
No guarantee? It’s a dead certainty he’ll roll over the minute he takes office. He co-sponsored abridging Constitutional rights with Russ Feingold. He co-sponsored amnesty with Teddy Kennedy. He flirted with John Kerry to be the first VP/SECDEF!!!! In short with the exception of the war, McNasty has been one of the more reliable votes for the Democrat agenda!
I bring this up for the simple reason I don’t want to be in the position I have to consider voting for the bastard in November because all the other candidates were chased out of contention.
highhopes on January 24, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Gregor,
The fact is Mccain and Romney are HORRIBLE nominees.
We don’t stand a chance if we nominate either of them.
I don’t know about you..but I think WE HAVE TO WIN!
The alternative is just so horrible it is unimagineable…if the dems win I guarantee you we will have a HUGE recession if not great depression. I also guarantee you if the dems win they will lose the war on terror for us.
IMO Huckabee is the only candidate with a chance of defeating them!
HaraldHardrada on January 24, 2008 at 4:53 PM
I hope I’m wrong, but I think Mr. StraightTalk is going to win CA thanks to the AARP Republican-establishment demographic. My parents fit that bill and have already voted absentee for McCain… :^(
CliffHanger on January 24, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Do you suppose, you know who, thinks the Shuskster is the 2nd coming?
kcd on January 24, 2008 at 4:53 PM
“Change”:
- your diapers
- your Kindergarten
- your schools
- your universities
- your jobs
- your taxes
- your lives
- above, all make small change of all you own
In other words
SECOND LOOK AT HILLARY OR OBAMA
Two requests:
1. HaraldHardrada, go over to yesterday’s thread and keep on talking to yourself, or anyone who cares to listen.
MB4, get your butt out of bed, or the couch, and come over here to fight McCain.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Should have been:
2. MB4, get your butt out of bed, or the couch, and come over here to fight McCain.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Again, I don’t agree. I for one would rather Hillary win the election than reward McCain for fuGGing us over and giving us the finger every chance he gets. The polls that are asking conservatives if they would vote for McCain tend to show that I’m not even close to being alone on this.
The absolute worst thing that could happen for the future of the GOP is to have someone like McCain be rewarded. It would show all future Republican candidates that they can do pretty much anything they want and continue to get our vote.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:54 PM
My head hurts : (
kcd on January 24, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Fixed it. You’re wasting your time here. Nobody’s buying it.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Wait a minute – this very post links to 5 polls, which all show McCain winning or competing against Clinton and Obama. So either conservatives, at this point, aren’t actually planning on sitting out, or their vote isn’t making much of a difference. Probably the former, isn’t it?
RightOFLeft on January 24, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Which ones besides web polls? I’d honestly be interested in seeing them.
And no, you wouldn’t be the only conservative who’d refuse to vote for McCain, but I seriously doubt that 30% of otherwise reliable Republicans would join you.
Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 4:58 PM
It’s not hard to figure out. Those are national polls that are not limited to Republicans or conservatives. As I’ve said earlier, McCain will get far more of the independent votes than Hillary, and he’ll most likely draw some of the liberal votes. But he will not get the votes from conservatives. Those polls do not reflect that.
Also, those polls only show a person’s preference between McCain and Hillary. They do not take into account that a large percentage of those very same voters will not even bother to show up at the polls on election day.
They’re meaningless.
Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 5:01 PM
The Huckabee shot his wad, it’s over for him now. Start shoveling before the body starts to stink.
leanright on January 24, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Being a regular commenter it might be a bit ironic for me to say so, but nothing you, I or MB4 says here in the comments makes a lick of difference. All we’re doing is shadow boxing- it’s good excersize but no matter how many punches we throw or how hard we swing, they’re still not going to connect.
Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Well, it worked for Bush… why not McCain? Lets not forget, he was a War Heroe!! (Where Have I heard that before?)
LibsREvilDoers on January 24, 2008 at 5:04 PM
I’m not sure I can jump off that cliff with you if push comes to shove. Fact is, some people who consider themselves to be “conservative” are already voting for McCain. McCain also appeals to an awful lot of independent and Dem voters who despise Hillary.
But, as many have already commented… we’re getting ahead of ourselves. McCain can, and should, be stopped now! This is the call-to-action for conservatives right now. Whatever you do or don’t do this November, do not sit out this primary.
CliffHanger on January 24, 2008 at 5:05 PM
I dont think so. The crowd of libs running from Hillary are running from the perception that she has become too hawkish on the war. The last person they will run to is McCain.
Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Two things Hollowpoint:
1. Yes, that is ironic of you to say :)
2. I already knew the 2nd part of your comment, but it sure makes me feel better to discuss, or banter, laugh, wish to cry, and maybe, just maybe, others too.
Those who can/want to campaign/contribute/participate, the rest of us pontificate.
Reminder, this is called HOT AiR.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 5:11 PM
I dont think so. The crowd of libs running from Hillary are running from the perception that she has become too hawkish on the war. The last person they will run to is McCain.
Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 5:06 PM
That’s hilarious.
I don’t agree with you about dems not voting Mccain but it certainly is funny to think that if it is Mccain VS Hildebeast…Hildebeast would be able to run to the right of him!
HaraldHardrada on January 24, 2008 at 5:11 PM
Dude, you forgot that Hillary/Obama would destroy the republic.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 5:14 PM
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