Open thread: The “And then there were four” debate; Update: New Mitt ad mocks McCain
posted at 7:30 pm on January 24, 2008 by Allahpundit
9 p.m. ET on MSNBC. “And then there were two and a half” would be more accurate. Giuliani’s still in the mix but he’s pulling only 11% on InTrade; Huckabee barely rates. If trends hold it’s Mitt versus McCain for all most of the marbles on Super Tuesday with Rudy and Huck hoping and praying (respectively) for miracles. McCain can expect flak from Romney on immigration and the economy and Rudy on that catastrophe fund he keeps bringing up to try to remind people of 9/11. Will Huck rally to Maverick’s side or let the other two take him apart? Look out for pandering praise for ol’ Fred too to try to win over any ‘Heads still on the fence. Mitt’s web team already has a little bait on the hook. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him attack MSNBC for laughing at Fred’s concession speech last weekend if the opportunity presents itself.
As for what McCain might have waiting for Romney, how about some straight talk about his mad economic skillz?
Video highlights later/during; as always, sound off below. While you wait, shed a tear for former Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich as he inadvertently joins the vast right-wing conspiracy. (Ten years and going strong!) This is amusing too, from one of the lefty blogosphere’s leading lights. Follow the comments, as always.
Update: That didn’t take long.
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Everybody gets a gun!
Matthews’ head just exploded.
SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Bingo.
henzou on January 24, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Chris Mathews is a douchebag. Go EFF yourself you gun hating sissy.
muyoso on January 24, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Huckabee was easily, easily, easily, the best speaker with the clearest answers. The best hope for stopping the liberal McCain is Governor Mike Huckabee.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Dude, it’s vodka FROM TEXAS!!!
Tito’s is the name.
Normally you’d be right about the whuppin…
But it’s TEXAS vodka. It’s been perfected.
It’s all good…
catmman on January 24, 2008 at 10:53 PM
As they say.. government outlaw of guns means only outlaws have guns.
henzou on January 24, 2008 at 10:54 PM
I told you all to leave apacalyps alone – he/she’s doing a great job for Mitt.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Agreed, winner line of the debate.
I’m with you Slublog, Romney is the best remaining choice.
peski on January 24, 2008 at 10:54 PM
I think he’s from Philly, which would explain the anti-gun douchebaggery. Philly sucks, it should be annexed to Jersey, we don’t want it.
doubleplusundead on January 24, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Thank you ugly.
You’re very kind.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 10:54 PM
I’m one of the murderers Huckabee pardoned…and I’m coming for you!!
lol goodnight.
CABE on January 24, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Chris Matthews can’t get his mind around the fact that the Second Amendment is not subject to the whims of Chris Matthews
fourstringfuror on January 24, 2008 at 10:55 PM
I hear ya. But it came off like McCain saying, “Uh, well, I uh, trust other people for economic stuff.” That’s the point – the theme that Mac isn’t an econ guru.
Spirit of 1776 on January 24, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Sorry, I’m weak, he’s just too much fun to kick around…
doubleplusundead on January 24, 2008 at 10:56 PM
It’s clear that jerry has never PM’d you. It is also clear that you are having some weird fantasies towards him. You are the typical childish internet troll. And a religious bigot to boot.
csdeven on January 24, 2008 at 10:56 PM
LOL – Maybe him and HH can grab some toast, form a circle and make a party of it.
(sorry, being groooosss again…)
SkinnerVic on January 24, 2008 at 10:56 PM
This is your brain on drugs and “Jesus Juice” and it is not pretty!
jwp1964 on January 24, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Joe Scarborough won’t stand up for the Second Amendment. What a spineless weasel. Fits right in on MSNBC.
fiatboomer on January 24, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Ooh Andrea Mitchell did not like Joe Scarborough claiming Mitt looked like the one to bring all the conservatives together.
They want McLiar so bad!
SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 10:57 PM
While McCain was busy trying to pass the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill to legalize 20 million illegal aliens, America sent TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to Muslim terrorist nations such as Iran and Saudi Arabia. Our addiction to oil threatens our very survival. The fact that McCain did nothing about this, and actually supported counterproductive policies that only deepened our foreign oil addiction, is another reason NOT to support him in today’s primary.
Why are any of you even considering this man as President????
???????????????????????????
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 10:57 PM
@ SkinnerVic on January 24, 2008 at 10:56 PM
They can put a photo of Huck in the middle on the floor, dont think the party would last too long though.
muyoso on January 24, 2008 at 10:58 PM
No kidding! It is in the Bill of Rights and is #2 right behind free speech. It wasn’t an afterthought.
Matthews is such a ‘tard!
SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Scarborough trashing Andra Mitchell for trying to push McCain as THE conservative candidate. HAHAHA!! She’s fidgeting like a bully in the principles office.
csdeven on January 24, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Huckabee has beaten the Clinton machine. He didn’t just win once, not twice, not three times but four times in a statewide election against the Clinton political machine. Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton campaigned against him every time he ever ran and he won.
If we don’t unite now behind Governor Huckabee, we will wind up getting McCain, which is the ultimate dream of the liberal news media.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Congratulations! We have found your candidate!!
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
fiatboomer on January 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Doesn’t matter if they understood the question – I certainly didn’t understand its significance. But what I certainly saw was McCain squirm and name-drop who he knows rather than answer the question. He obviously didn’t answer the question – on top of the fact he’d already been challenged on his economic knowledge. Paul saw the weakness and asked a question he knew he couldn’t answer. It was the perfect pawn.
Over30 on January 24, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Tito Vodka, top of the line, made in Austin. No joke.
RushBaby on January 24, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Very true.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:01 PM
I understand what you are saying, but what I get from that bigot is that it’s a sad state of affairs that people like him have a forum to spout his bigotry while hiding behind the savior.
csdeven on January 24, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Very good ‘debate’. Willard looked very Presidential. He probably has agood chabce for the nom. The only problem, and it’s a big one, was the two A-HOLES – Russert & Matthews. Possibly the two biggest, especially with Russerts size, jerks in the MSM, and that’s saying a lot with all to pick from. That’s probably why they made them moderators.
countywolf on January 24, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Huh. Learn something new every day. I don’t trust any drink I can see through except water- and then only when desperate.
Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 11:03 PM
He always does this, when he gets backed into a corner, he’ll go back into a thread and pull up a comment that was positive toward Huck.
doubleplusundead on January 24, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Mr. Romney said no lobbyists running his campaign.
You believe him??
I give you permission to click this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4R0GKyqRAQ
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:05 PM
TheGoblinKing on January 24, 2008 at 11:06 PM
You could save a lot of time if you just said:
:D
ReubenJCogburn on January 24, 2008 at 11:06 PM
On the principle point that he is indebted to no one, no special interest, yes absolutely.
Spirit of 1776 on January 24, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Meant to say, didn’t Mitt borrow that line kinda sorta from Rush?
TheGoblinKing on January 24, 2008 at 11:06 PM
How bad is it when the campaign flunkie sounds better than the candidate?
Huckascam’s flunkie actually has a few brain cells and sounds coherent.
SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 11:07 PM
This particular troll is a Democrat. I would suggest feeding him no further.
fiatboomer on January 24, 2008 at 11:07 PM
biggest lie of the night
McCain “I won the most republican votes in NH and SC”
wrong, Mitt beat him in NH and Huck beat him in SC
according to CNN election center exit polls anyway
windansea on January 24, 2008 at 11:07 PM
I don’t think you’re ready for a title shot.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:09 PM
@ fiatboomer on January 24, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Thats my candidate, dont ask that huckabee supporter to support him.
muyoso on January 24, 2008 at 11:11 PM
I have a system, very much like yours. Only difference is I don’t shoot the breeze with the Bastardos, I shoot the legs off the Bastardos.
Adios.
Tuco on January 24, 2008 at 11:12 PM
csdeven on January 24, 2008 at 10:56 PM
I hit the” ! ” key for so long it locked up my computer”vista”, and I thought I was going to have to take the battery out to be able to reboot. still lmao!!!just too funny!
jerrytbg on January 24, 2008 at 11:12 PM
You remind me of sinistar.
hmm,
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:13 PM
fiatboomer on January 24, 2008 at 11:07 PM
agreed. I promise. hehehe
jerrytbg on January 24, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Is this your next President??
What are you waiting for? Click this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HotMWgYVm2Q
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:15 PM
yea I’m out of here too.
jerrytbg on January 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Wow, nothing gets by you, huh? Pretty sharp there. Heh.
doubleplusundead on January 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Fixed in honor of my buddy, csdeven :)
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Grow up would you. You’ve adopted the same smear tactics routinely used by the far-left Air America radio network and displayed daily on the nutty political blogs.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Hey CS, good comment on the troll ‘apacalyps’. We desperately need you to straighten out all these newbees! What a bunch!
countywolf on January 24, 2008 at 11:18 PM
I never do that in any group. I must say that you are very polite, for taking so much abuse. I admire that in you. Loyalty to your guy, even if misguided, is also a good trait. And, you do generate a lot of hotair, and HA traffic.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 11:19 PM
We’re working on it…
doubleplusundead on January 24, 2008 at 11:21 PM
That Jesus is going to judge you one day, so you better get ready.
“Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all.” Jude 1:14-15
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:22 PM
But I’ll defend them against you because they are entertaining, and they help Mitt, much to their own chagrin.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 11:23 PM
I’ve noticed several here agree Gov. Huckabee was the best speaker tonight and won the debate. More and more are switching to a Hucka Hucka burnin’ love. Well done.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil for I am the meanest desperado in the valley!
Tuco on January 24, 2008 at 11:29 PM
No thank you. Ron Paul is anti-semetic and would not defend Israel. He would abandon them and last time I checked the Bible tells us that we will be judged based on our treatment of the Jewsih people.
“For Zion’s (Israel’s) sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem’s sake I will not rest.” Isaiah 62:1
Governor Huckabee is the ONLY Republican in the race now who can stop Hillary.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Prove this. Provide those examples, here.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 11:31 PM
I’m convinced! I’m ready to vote for Huckabee, convert to Huckabism, and be SAVE-Deh! How do I get started?
RushBaby on January 24, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Don’t die, I’ll get you water. Stay there. Don’t move, I’ll get you water. Don’t die until later. As soon as you tell me where all that wine is then you can die!
Tuco on January 24, 2008 at 11:32 PM
And even with no endorsement by Fred! it appears that in Florida most of those who supported Fred! are moving to Romney:
These results along with the NYT endorsement of McAint-A-Conservative is further proof that Fred!Heads are doing the conservative thing.
rocksandbroncs on January 24, 2008 at 11:33 PM
RushBaby, I’ve seen many derivatives of Huckabee, but your Huckabism is a new one – made my laugh :) Cheers,
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 11:33 PM
I’m not sure but I hear that you have to start by hanging a dog.
Tuco on January 24, 2008 at 11:34 PM
I thought you were after the gold, not the wine. Couldn’t you buy all the wine you want, with the gold?
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 11:35 PM
You dare to insult the Proffet MoHuckamohamet? SILENCE! I WEELL KEEEEELLL YOU!
/Seethes
RushBaby on January 24, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Yeah, apacalypse, if you’re watching this, Huckabee’s son hanged a dog. And Huckabee was involved with covering up for the affair.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Where’s a dog? I WEEL HAAAAAAAANG HEEEEEEEM!
RushBaby on January 24, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Toast? I must be naive.
mikeyboss on January 24, 2008 at 11:38 PM
I’m getting a bit fed up with your baseless attacks. Apparently, in our politically charged and politically correct culture, honesty itself is now out of bounds. I love all people, but not all cultures. For example, Islam is an evil culture. They cannot integrate with the west. Islam sees the West as “God’s Enemy”. The Quran says to kill Infidels, and that would be anyone who is NOT a muslim. We don’t need to look very far to see where the problem is. Anyone who does not hold their fundamental Islamic beliefs is considered an infidel. Muslim Dilemma: Kill inferiors or Convert them? This is what passes for rational debate and discourse in Islam? How sad.
Got it csdeven? Good!!
Now if you think that is bigoted, well you need to wake up. Either give me one credible instance of my being a bigot, or shut-up!
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:39 PM
RushBaby, please don’t go there. Consider Mitt Romney, and then Rudy. Don’t even think of the Rev. Huckster. You’re a friendly atheist, as I recall.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 11:39 PM
I don’t think that crazy Bastardo has any Gold. But from his strange behavior he must have been drinking a lot of wine. He must have stolen a very large store of it. I can sell all that wine for Gold.
Tuco on January 24, 2008 at 11:40 PM
It’s true. Fortunately, there are quite a few postive comments for Huck tonight, they’re easy to find.
Thanks, DPU.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Not anymore! I’m a Huck-o-Lite, now!
RushBaby on January 24, 2008 at 11:43 PM
SEEEEEEE?
Even Bad Candy agrees!
RushBaby on January 24, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Well, this though, is just another example of Romney not telling us the full truth. He does have a lobbyist working in his campaign team.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:45 PM
It’s only a matter of time till ole CS comes to the plate!
countywolf on January 24, 2008 at 11:47 PM
No sir. This is another example of the media trying to take a statement out of context to fit a preconceived theme.
Spirit of 1776 on January 24, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Comedy gold.
How’s the writers’ strike coming?
sulla on January 24, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Your humble new convert cannot view the YouTube due to his humble internet connection. What is this infidel lobbyist you speak of?
RushBaby on January 24, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Perhaps that dog had a partner who was supposed to shoot through the rope at the last second, and that partner betrayed him? I suspect that Tuco could provide some useful insight into that kind of scheme. Not from firsthand experience, of course.
ReubenJCogburn on January 24, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I’m a Democrat?? LOL.
Get a grip, buddy.
I am an Independent, Tempermental, Fundamental, right-wing, radical, Baptist. I’m far right of the right!
Perhaps the most banal argument is to call Republicans “liberal” when they clearly are not. It lessens the real impact of what being liberal means when it becomes a playground insult in the hands of some of you in this forum. You should stick to attacking
liberals on the left and leave serious discussions to others.
apacalyps on January 24, 2008 at 11:51 PM
You’re not only ugly, and greedy, but also shrewd.
RushBaby, I can’t afford to lose you – you’re one of my favorites here. Please don’t fall for the Bravo Sierra of apacalypse.
Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Jeez, I just started on the thread and the troll comes up with
McCain spent YEARS obsessively fighting for the McCain-Kennedy amnesty bill? Give me that timeline again?
a capella on January 24, 2008 at 11:55 PM
What’s this? I have offered to turn over my live and my fortune to the Proffet HuckaMoHamBee, and I was counting on my savior to guide me to the ceremonial chipper-shredder. Wherefore art thou, Aploxolype? Why have you not responded to me? Have I not prostrated myself sufficiently before thee?
RushBaby on January 24, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Keep reading, it gets better!
countywolf on January 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM
I wish that dog had survived and been like Tuco.
For whoever double-crosses me and leaves me alive, he understands nothing about Tuco. …
Tuco on January 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Tell the group that those of other faiths such as Mormons, Catholics, Scientologists etc have as much proof that their religion is based on fact as yours is and therefore are equal in validity.
Also admit to the group that you have no standing to make any judgment on any other persons relationship with Jesus.
csdeven on January 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Maybe you’re not drinking the right proof RushBaby!
countywolf on January 24, 2008 at 11:58 PM
*moans*
The Mockery! The Abandonment!
*wails*
What’s a hopeful HuCKonvert to dooooooo?
RushBaby on January 25, 2008 at 12:01 AM
And CS hits one outta the park!
countywolf on January 25, 2008 at 12:01 AM
I had a feeling it was you. Doubleplusundead has the same impressive wit as Sinistar. While we probably don’t agree with each other on just about everything, I think you’re okay. Ahem, now let’s get back to debating.
Oh, and PS, I’m pleased you decided to switch to Huckabee like the others. Good choice.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:02 AM
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 12:03 AM
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Heh, one of my fav Tuco quote.
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 12:05 AM
You think you’re better than I am apacalyps? Where we came from, if one did not want to die of poverty, one became a Huckapriest or a bandit! You chose your way, I chose mine. Mine was harder. You remember when you left to become a Huckapriest? I stayed behind! I must have been ten, twelve. I don’t remember which, but I stayed. I tried, but it was no good. Now I am going to tell you something. You became a Huckapriest because you were… too much of a coward to do what I do!
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 12:06 AM
I’m not supporting anyone yet since Fred dropped out.
doubleplusundead on January 25, 2008 at 12:07 AM
apacalyps, I don’t want to lose RushBaby, and I’ll fight you in a duel for him/her. I can see that RB wants to come over your side.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Hello? Hello? Alpacalyps? Are you going to take me with you? I’m ready to move into the White House? I’m on board with you, I swear it! I just need to pack a few things, then Let’s go!
RushBaby on January 25, 2008 at 12:09 AM
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