Open thread: The “And then there were four” debate; Update: New Mitt ad mocks McCain
posted at 7:30 pm on January 24, 2008 by Allahpundit
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9 p.m. ET on MSNBC. “And then there were two and a half” would be more accurate. Giuliani’s still in the mix but he’s pulling only 11% on InTrade; Huckabee barely rates. If trends hold it’s Mitt versus McCain for all most of the marbles on Super Tuesday with Rudy and Huck hoping and praying (respectively) for miracles. McCain can expect flak from Romney on immigration and the economy and Rudy on that catastrophe fund he keeps bringing up to try to remind people of 9/11. Will Huck rally to Maverick’s side or let the other two take him apart? Look out for pandering praise for ol’ Fred too to try to win over any ‘Heads still on the fence. Mitt’s web team already has a little bait on the hook. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him attack MSNBC for laughing at Fred’s concession speech last weekend if the opportunity presents itself.
As for what McCain might have waiting for Romney, how about some straight talk about his mad economic skillz?
Video highlights later/during; as always, sound off below. While you wait, shed a tear for former Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich as he inadvertently joins the vast right-wing conspiracy. (Ten years and going strong!) This is amusing too, from one of the lefty blogosphere’s leading lights. Follow the comments, as always.
Update: That didn’t take long.
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I know I do.
And honestly, I have only one thing to say to both YOU and HOTAIR about it.
Move closer to your speakers please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FssH6uQ3Sc
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:10 AM
My dear bad candy - I love saying that :) - stand by me young man, we’ll be fine by Nov. and you might change your mind. No need to hurry today. Either way, I’ll always like you, even if you don’t vote. I’m a registered independent and no yahoos of any dogma will affect my affinities.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Step aside, Entelechy! My decision is MADE! I’m goin’ to Washington, D.C. with Amphibilips, to see President Huckabee!
RushBaby on January 25, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Shove it up your as*, koolaid drinker.
peski on January 25, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Heh.
Jaibones on January 25, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Take it back, peski! You’re dissin’ my donkey! He’s gonna carry me to the White House in ‘09, yessirrEEEE, to see President HuckaBEEEEEE!
RushBaby on January 25, 2008 at 12:16 AM
When you get to the White House, if you can sneak away from all the Huckapriests there for a while be sure to look for any hidden Gold.
Don’t get any of the cigars though as they may have some bad stuff on them.
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 12:17 AM
They might not even be cigars!
countywolf on January 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Thank you, Entelechy.
I like you too.
Can I help Mitt now, please? I can? Oh, boy.
Romney in the Pharmaceutical Co. Pockets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7JLhKqtJHs
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Waste of time. Previous administration took all that home.
*looks around*
Dude! Where’s my ride?
RushBaby on January 25, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Look for the Gold anyway just in case.
If I get my hands on the Gold, I’ll always honor your memory. I swear.
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 12:27 AM
If I find any, I’ll hand it over. Might even buy you a drink.
RushBaby on January 25, 2008 at 12:30 AM
Lord, this made me laugh tears. You are the funniest thing. I needed to laugh today and someone is watching out for me. Thank you apacalyps. You’re a god sent.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 12:31 AM
First off, RushBaby, read John 3:16 and believe it.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son (Jesus), that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16-17
Second, here’s how to become a Huckabee Ranger.
Are you a Huckabee Ranger?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcyDrYsqoC4&NR=1
If I had my choice though, and all kidding aside, I’d would much rather you choose the first option because, “It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man” Psalms 118:8
No joke.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:34 AM
We depart from our normal programming today.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Can’t watch youtube from here.
No joke.
RushBaby on January 25, 2008 at 12:38 AM
‘Night, ‘Nuts!
RushBaby on January 25, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Does Tuco like cigars?
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 12:38 AM
RushBaby, you are a riot. I’ve never seen you in this top form. Love,
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 12:39 AM
The “chosen one” Romney being given answers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NlIMQ31EjY
Let’s see how the MSM handles that one!
Fed Up
Fed Up on January 25, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Three of the four top candidates have significant apostasy on the defining issue of social conservatism. Rudy Giuliani is avowedly pro-choice, and even supported federal funding of abortion. Mitt Romney’s flip-flops and thin cover-ups of said are well known. And McCain spent years obsessively fighting to turn tens of millions of illegal aliens into American citizens.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Tuco doesn’t like them so much but Tuco knows someone who does.
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 12:44 AM
apacalyps, what you are doing, out here in the badlands, we call it going in circles.
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 12:45 AM
Good. When Tuco collects the gold, he can deliver special ones to that someone. Tell someone to save all the interesting empty boxes.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 12:46 AM
apacalyps, you must have walked for about 25 miles by now but you are only a few feet away from where you started.
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 12:49 AM
No, no… that is not entirely true. We don’t know all the facts. Besides, his son was only18 years old at the time and I don’t think that has anything to do with Mike Huckabee running as President.
Next.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:50 AM
GOD doesn’t believe in atheists.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:51 AM
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:50 AM
Well apacalyps, I adore dogs, cats, and animals in general, and detest people who hurt them. His son aparently not only hanged the dog, but then his father, the governor, covered the affair up. I hurt just thinking of animals in pain. They are in our care and people who don’t respect/love them, earn my wrath instinctively.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 12:55 AM
An Atheist is a man with no invisible means of support.
Murphy9 on January 25, 2008 at 12:55 AM
I Timothy 3:4-5
Spirit of 1776 on January 25, 2008 at 12:56 AM
You’re fine by me Murphy9, but the Rev. Huckabee, and his disciple apacalyps will wish to convert you soon enough.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Holla at your boy!!! yeahhh
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Well, as far as the religious talk, the headline does say its a open thread…
Ok, random stuff: In my Trigonometry class, I learned that Hamster divided by Ice Cream equals Yellow.
I also learned that you can make a coordinate system named “Bob”.
Good times.
Weebork on January 25, 2008 at 1:01 AM
Are you for Romney?
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 1:02 AM
Religious talk is fine, the gibotry spouted by these so-called “Christians” is a different subject altogether.
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 1:03 AM
No.
Spirit of 1776 on January 25, 2008 at 1:04 AM
I’m not worried.
Chaos always wins, because it’s better organized.
Murphy9 on January 25, 2008 at 1:04 AM
csdeven,
It’s just that I wasn’t expecting it in the thread. So when I popped in here and scrolled down towards the end… whoa.
Fun!
Weebork on January 25, 2008 at 1:05 AM
What a refreshing scene to see so many tonight switching to Gov. Huckabee. Wow. Duncan Hunter’s endorsement seems to have come at the right time.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 1:07 AM
Whenever HuckaGibot is in a thread, a few so-called “Christians” start with their giboted remarks. It’s sickening.
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 1:08 AM
I mind is a terrible thing to lose, or not to have a mind at all, how true that is! - DQ
Murphy9 on January 25, 2008 at 1:09 AM
You are adorably delusional. I have a comphy couch, ready for treatment. First 3 hours are free. I can’t help but like you.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:10 AM
The difference between Genius and Gibotry is that Genius has it’s limits.
Murphy9 on January 25, 2008 at 1:11 AM
_____________
Best post on this thread!
Thanks Tuco!
LodeStar on January 25, 2008 at 1:12 AM
Wait a minute, that is the quote MB4 uses often. That dude must have fallen asleep early today.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:12 AM
csdeven,
That and the usual Ronulan stuff.
Weebork on January 25, 2008 at 1:14 AM
Hey, RushBaby.
Here’s a snippet of an article.
In a tense exchange with an AP reporter on Thursday, Mitt Romney insisted that even though a registered lobbyist is one of his senior advisers, lobbyists do not “run” his campaign.
The claim is part of Romney’s new self-styled outsider message: lobbyists are part of a broken Washington system and Romney has nothing to do with them.
“My campaign is not based on Washington lobbyists,” Romney said. “I haven’t been in Washington. I don’t have lobbyists at my elbow that are arguing for one industry or another industry and I do not have favors I have to repay to people who have been in Washington for years.”
The truth is that Romney is tied closely with many lobbyists. The AP reporter Romney exchanged sharp words with later reported that several Romney aides and advisers are lobbyists. Additionally, as the Nation first reported, Romney has accepted the second most money from lobbyists of any Republican presidential candidate, and has received the most endorsements from lobbyists.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 1:14 AM
Trudat!
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 1:14 AM
That’s one of the reasons I always like you csdeven - you say it how it is, with no reservations.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:15 AM
Interesting that HuckaGibot and PR are judged as the same ilk.
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 1:16 AM
They seek him here, they seek him there.
Percy on January 25, 2008 at 1:17 AM
“The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits”.
- - Einstein
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:17 AM
Dude. We’ve been over this. Those people are Senators, Congressmen, and a Governor. For the purpose this story they are labeled lobbyists. It’s a hook for those who are looking for a hook - your Frank Richs of the world. I surprised you would buy into that stuff.
Spirit of 1776 on January 25, 2008 at 1:17 AM
Hey Percy, I missed you so. Where’d you been all this time?
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:18 AM
If I find him do I get Gold?
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 1:18 AM
Lots of it, and Platinum as a special treasure.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:19 AM
I yam what I yam, and that’s all that I yam.
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 1:19 AM
You know me and what I do.
Percy on January 25, 2008 at 1:20 AM
+1
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:22 AM
I do. Believe, I do.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:25 AM
I SWEAR TO GOD I’LL PISTOLWHIP THE NEXT MAN WHO SAYS “LOBBYIST”.
Hollowpoint on January 25, 2008 at 1:25 AM
John McCain has been pro amnesty for years, this position weakens our national security and weakens the fight against terrorism.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 1:25 AM
And be careful Percy. Don’t fight too many duels, not blindly.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:25 AM
Very good. I leave this thread in your capable hands.
Spirit of 1776 on January 25, 2008 at 1:27 AM
Turn it over to Christ. You’ll get more back. (Romans 6:23)
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 1:27 AM
Heh, same here, same for all.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:27 AM
You are all becoming a very big disappointment to me and even more so to your future el President Juan the First. Spending all this time going on and on and on about that loser wacko reverend and his even bigger loser wacko followers when you all should be spending your spare time LEARNING SPANISH!!!
VinyFoxy on January 25, 2008 at 1:27 AM
What, no bazooka?
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 1:28 AM
Oh Spirit, even here you were so polite :)
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:29 AM
Tuco, go after VinyFoxy, and shoot him, for much gold.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:30 AM
Too bulky. I got one of these instead.
Hollowpoint on January 25, 2008 at 1:35 AM
I could not shoot him. We may be related. Of course, if there was a WHOLE LOT of Gold in it I just might. I would have to think about it. I’m only human.
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 1:35 AM
That’s scary looking! You’d better hide that!
;-)
csdeven on January 25, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Sorry, I thought that in the case of Tuco greed is his overriding emotion, displacing all others.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:39 AM
There is one that is just a little bit higher, Marguerite.
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 1:46 AM
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 1:46 AM
That’s wonderful. Since you’ve been away for so long, she must be yearning to see you. She must be very special to love a guy like you. Then again, you’re very curageous, and she’s a lucky lady. Your prowess must really impress her.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 1:52 AM
Wanna get into a Word Game?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA! Willard Clinton’s Dictionary will lose!
Chakra Hammer on January 25, 2008 at 1:55 AM
No, not so much. She is very demanding. Always wanting to go to Paris and to the theater and wanting me to dress up real fancy.
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 2:02 AM
I have the same problem.
Women!
Percy on January 25, 2008 at 2:04 AM
Well, they say clothes make the man…even someone as ugly as you, must look dapper dressed up fancy.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 2:04 AM
Can’t live with ‘em, and can’t live with ‘em.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 2:06 AM
Look, I will be more than happy to have a religious debate with you, but I think you’re being a little sophomoric. Just the premise of your argument is flawed. For one thing, it appears you do not understand the history of the Mormons, Catholics, Scientology; you may as well throw in Islam too, cause it looks to me like you want me to say there is more than one way to God. Right away you already got Christianity all wrong because Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6) Similarly, the apostle Paul warned us in Colossians 2:8, “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.” I think Jesus is trying to tell you something csdeven.
Hey, did you know Israel first became a nation in 1312 B.C., two thousand years before the rise of Islam! That’s right. The Islamic religion began in 623 AD, that about 600 years after Christ sacrificed Himself on the cross. Oh, and Mormonism was invented in the 1800’s in America by a man named Joseph Smith. He invented scriptures which are filled with plagiarisms from the Bible, and fantastical histories of the North American continent and it’s ancient peoples. Not to mention Scientology was founded in 1954 in California. See where I’m going with this? If you want to know the truth about something you need to know the history of it.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:06 AM
Oh, yay! A religion debate.
Hollowpoint: Out.
Hollowpoint on January 25, 2008 at 2:10 AM
I cannot say who is saved and going to heaven. Only God can make that judgment. We try to follow the so-called Golden rule of conduct:
“Judge not, that ye be not judged.” Matthew 7:1
On the other hand, God has commanded us to “judge righteous judgement.”
“Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” John 7:24
We should be able to recognize false teachers and “from such turn away.” Matthew 7:15-20
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.” Matthew 7:15-20
In otherwords, we should be able to judge that which is wrong, in either doctrine or practice, and avoid (or correct) those who are involved, but we must not condemn them - God must do that.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:13 AM
apacalyps, you are indefatigable.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 2:16 AM
Not at all. We were created equal.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:17 AM
Naked men have little or no influence on society. -MT
Murphy9 on January 25, 2008 at 2:19 AM
Murphy9, at 2:19, you’re enforcing my statement. Mark Twain must have had Tuco in mind when he said that.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 2:22 AM
I get the feeling you haven’t ruled out Huckabee. Good. I hope not anyways. Hey! Don’t let anyone intimidate you on this, not saying they are and you can easily handle yourself, but I strongly believe that most who are knocking Huck do actually think he is a decent guy, the problem is they hate his religion. Anyways, they shouldn’t. Duncan hunter didn’t. My 0.2 cents.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:23 AM
I like …in……indefat……indefatigable men. When they fall they make more noise.
Tuco on January 25, 2008 at 2:24 AM
No! Never!
We want who he/she/it is.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:26 AM
You are always welcome with us RushBaby.
Always.
Besides, once you join us,
There. Is. No. Escape.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:28 AM
I can’t think of a better name for you.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:29 AM
If McCain were the Republican nominee, millions of Republicans and conservatives will not vote for McCain in November UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. McCain will lose a huge portion of the Republican and conservative base. THAT WILL DOOM HIS CANDIDACY TO DEFEAT. A vote for McCain or any of the other candidates is national suicide, and that’s no exaggeration, we will live to regret it. Huckabee is the only guy that can rally broad support and win it for us.
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:30 AM
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:30 AM
I repeat that you are adorably delusional. Again, free treatment for 3 hours. After that, the fees are high, but the treatment must be extensive to cure you. It might have to be life-long.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 2:33 AM
I hear the whispers of the wind
see the stars shine in the sky
but I hold the sunrise in my pocket
…because tomorrow is still a work day. Open threads are much fun. Good night and fantastic dreams.
Entelechy on January 25, 2008 at 2:42 AM
You’re very welcome. And YES, I assure you, Someone is watching out for you. (1 Peter 5:7)
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 2:54 AM
Oh darn
apacalyps on January 25, 2008 at 3:02 AM
Mitt totally conquered! Mittmentum FTW!
All your base are belong to us.
–Zero Wing 2:5
sulla on January 25, 2008 at 4:03 AM
Stone Cold has endorsed Romney!
I’m gonna kick your a$$
–Austin 3:16
sulla on January 25, 2008 at 4:04 AM
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