It’s like Debbie Schlussel condemning the JDL and her article is up on their site and when you ask her about it you get no answer.

I don’t get it, it’s ridiculous.

As a Boomer I consider the youth to be our savior, (not saving my Social Security entitlement), but because they realize relationships are what is important. Especially the relationship between government and the public, and that it should be taken lightly.

Having said that, let me address your points. First, on the draft, I don’t think the fear of a draft is something completely bogus. When you have Republican candidates that are pushing for war on many fronts, and you see the government doing stuff like stop loss or using the National Guard like it’s the army, then a draft isn’t a complete figment of anyone’s imagination. I don’t think it’s dishonest for Democrats to point that out. But if they say electing McCain means we *will* with certainty get the draft, then yes, that is dishonest. I didn’t say that, if I gave this impression, then I am very sorry.
For marriage, I reject your characterization. The left, in my view, is not the aggressor. Unless you call ‘ensuring fairness’ aggression. Remind me again the risk to us if gay marriage is approved… will straight people suddenly divorce?

You are trying to push me to defend points I didn’t make. I was trying to address Jason’s point on using this ‘innate conservatism’. And again I will say it. Give young people a bold vision. Something that inspires them. Something that will encourage them to enter public life to achieve great results. Don’t try to fool them by saying that government running healthcare has anything to do with the government deciding what music you can listen to. Even the right can have a bold positive vision. This is not a monopoly of the left. Fiscal responsibility, A simplified tax system. Infrastructure investments. I think you could* get young people to sign on to those without using ‘fear of website browsing’ as your starting point.

* = obviously you will have to compete with what the other side offers.

If he’d just review his own tapes and practice his presentation a little more, he can easily correct the over-acting.

Funny enough, I did a presentation for a local GOP group on this topic, outlining specific issues and tying it into a GOP principle. I just turned 36 and am a woman, one of the few women there and probably the youngest person, so I was hoping to offer guidance and encouragement.

Unfortunately, old habits die hard, I guess. Without realising it, the founder will periodically make comments insinuating that people with piercings and long hair are reprobates, and things like that. Even though I have a nose ring and my husband had longish hair until recently, comments like that don’t bother us because he does it without noticing. However, that kind of stereotyping won’t go far if you’re trying to recruit a moderate into the party.

What I’m saying is the party has too easily written off blacks, young voters, women… deciding that on the whole they are Democrats. We need to fight more.

Young voters like to think they are hip and on top of things… not like their parents; Teddy Kennedy and Harry Reid are two of the best examples of dinosaurs I can think of!

Remember Clinton and his contention that the GOP didn’t care if people had to eat dog food? We simply don’t fight enough for votes or on issues that matter. The President has failed at this (unfortunately) too often. Rather than try to get the message out and stand up for what’s right (prosecuting Sandy Berger is a good example, as is bringing up other reasons we thought Saddam was dangerous, like hiding Abu Nidal and giving money to suicide bomber families), he’s tried to appear friendly, conciliatory, helpful and not ruffle feathers or take issue with criticism.

When will we realise that PR matters? The Democrats have managed to sell a fake bill of goods to voters and it’s all because of spin, because we’ve let them get away with it.

We know that Democrats care for power and control, not for people, in as much as people are a tool to obtain more power. They show it nearly every day in their actions and legislation and we could make inroads with voters and on issues if we just held their feed to the fire.

I’ve also missed the Vents. They’re what made me come here everyday in the first place. Now they’re buried under headlines, videos, massive comments and other debris that makes this place look junky and far less inviting. Your numbers may be more puffed up now, but more doesn’t mean better.

Would love to see more Vents, more prominently featured, though I’m obviously in the minority.

Ya’ll are crazy. Jason did great.

Pretty easy on the eyes, too…

Jewels on January 24, 2008 at 9:27 AM

I’ll second that.

Just wondering why they are so infrequent.

mycowardice on January 24, 2008 at 11:31 PM

So why did you dishonestly insert the draft in that way? The Democrats actually are using it to capture the youth vote, and have been since 2005 or 2006. And you know it. They’re also using fear of most of the other things you mentioned, and you know it. As for marriage, give me a break. The left is the aggressor on that by trying to change existing law by fiat. If you’re honest at all, you know that and will admit it. If you, then you’re not worth discussing anything else with at all.

Both parties use fear to some extent, but the difference is that Republicans tend to fear things that are actual threats. Democrats tend to manufacture the threats to create the fear to capture and hold the vote. That’s what they did with the draft and those other issues. And you know it.

Who’s pushing a draft? DEMOCRATS, that’s who.

Bryan on January 24, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Who is pushing to stay in Iraq for 100 years? I believe it’s your new front runner!

mycowardice on January 24, 2008 at 8:58 PM

Who’s pushing a draft? DEMOCRATS, that’s who.

It’s not fear, it’s reality. To libs such as yourself, I ask: Which is the greater threat, al Qaeda or Wal-Mart?

Bryan on January 24, 2008 at 5:16 PM

What do you mean by greatest threat? Who can mess up the economy more? Who can kill more Americans? Who can destroy our buildings?

We don’t control al Qaeda. They have a mind of their own. If tomorrow they want to do another 9/11, there is clearly little pressure we can do directly on them to stop them. Obviously we can have the CIA, the FBI, the police, the Army, etc on their tail but al Qaeda doesn’t answer to us. How much damage could they ever do? Does it go beyond 9/11? Worse than the worse episode of 24? Honestly I am not sure, but I think there is a limit on what they can achieve.

Walmart on the other hand is a company headquartered in Bentonville, AR. If they do something terribly wrong, we can pass laws to prevent that or we can investigate them. At the end of the day, we have some partial control over Walmart’s actions. So in that sense, no matter what threat they pose, we have better control.

But, you have to concede that Walmart has far more influence over the globe or the US than al Qaeda could ever dream of having. Walmart is the world largest company. They have a 351 billion revenu. Clearly, mistakes by Walmart could have a far greater impact on us than al Qaeda could ever dream of having. Let me ask you: if al Qaeda could get out of their caves to run Walmart, would they do it?

Honestly your question reminds me of the same question that was inserted in one of your post: http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/27/hot-air-tvyaf-video-what-is-islamo-fascism/ (I wrote a post about it, see trackbacks). In one corner, you are giving me this group that I think at the end of the day can’t do very much, but in the other corner you are giving me a company so big and so much more powerful. (And as a true liberal,) I can’t really answer. We can’t compare the two. This isn’t like picking if I prefer the Big Mac or the Whopper.

If I am forced to pick, then I might pick Al Qaeda just because I think we can exert some power over Walmart but we can’t on al Qaeda.

Anyways, my point on ‘fear’ is that to translate ‘fear of picking my music’ to ‘fear of government health care’ is a HUGE leap that just exploits fear with no good reason. If you translate ‘fear of picking my music’ to ‘fear of picking my movies’, I get that. But that’s not what Jason is doing here.

How about those:

Fear of picking my music morphing into
–> Fear of telling me who I can marry
–> Fear of invading my privacy with respect to reproductive rights
–> Fear of having a draft
–> Fear of listening to my phone calls
etc.

I would find that a really bogus argument. If that’s how young people are ‘captured’ by the Democratic party, it’s terrible.

I think the fact that the libtards tried to invalidate all military absentee ballots in Florida is proof that THEY believe that the majority are Republican voters.

Honestly, in my 8 years of military service, I never met anyone that believed in liberalism….and they hated the Dems in Congress/Senate.

Since party affiliation is not something the military will keep track of, I guess you have to let the actions of the left speak for this, and they don’t like the military vote.

Fuzzball on January 24, 2008 at 11:10 AM

I agree with you and I remember serving during the Clinton years *shudders* that there weren’t many if any who were happy with how the military was treated or looked upon by the Left. I just wish there was a way to have some cold, hard numbers on that because without that it’s too easily disregarded.

I bet Reagan got the youth vote because teenagers like me didn’t want to sit in a gas line again. I’ve been a conservative ever since.

More Ms. Malkin vents, please!

It’s not fear, it’s reality. To libs such as yourself, I ask: Which is the greater threat, al Qaeda or Wal-Mart?

Bryan on January 24, 2008 at 5:16 PM

Walmart, Cankles used to be on the board – LOL