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McCain: I’ve always been for tax cuts, except for the ones I vote against

posted at 1:30 pm on January 24, 2008 by Allahpundit
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A tasty sandwich for you from this morning’s Fox & Friends. The meat is Maverick’s comically nuanced profession of fiscal conservatism, the bread his slightly too intense insistence that he’s ready for tonight’s debate and the surreal Rambo outro. (Speaking of which.)

Ah well. Success breeds success. Or does it? I guess “success” is a relative term

Update: More from the interview. What, oh what, is a man to do who’s despised by huge portions of his base and suspected of not being a real conservative? Is there anyone he can attack to prove his bona fides? Any convenient punching bag at hand?


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Screencap: MCCAIN SMASH!

Slublog on January 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM

Obama is looking better and better.

MB4 on January 24, 2008 at 1:34 PM

He’s always been for tax cuts. If he’s ever been against tax cuts, then my name isn’t sixteen84.

Sincerely,

thirteen28 on January 24, 2008 at 1:36 PM

If you want to know why John McCain will never win in a general election check out the latest poll at conservative news forum Free Republic. They ask the question If it’s McCain vs Hillary in the general, how do you vote?

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=215

If you want to vote click on the ‘Return to Forum’ link at the bottom of the page, then scroll down and look for the poll on the right side of the page.

I voted ‘Third party’. I and most conservative friends that I know will NEVER vote for John McCain… NO MATTER WHAT!

olympian2008 on January 24, 2008 at 1:36 PM

So tonight we can expect McCain to bring up Hillary Clinton in every single sentence like Hillary brings up George Bush in every single sentence?

And that “my friends” line is really getting on my nerves.

Go Mitt!

ctmom on January 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM

SECOND LOOK AT THE O FETISH

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM

For election night, I’m beginning to think…maybe vodka…

MadisonConservative on January 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Why is he singling out Billary? Obama the Post-Racial Socialist Weenie Who Campaigns for a Unified Black Vote in Support of Black Candidates has been calling for surrender since the opening shots fired.

Problem number 27 with McCain — he’s soft on Obama.

Jaibones on January 24, 2008 at 1:39 PM

Will John McCain tell us more about President Putin of Germany at tonight’s debate?

I am hoping for a good old fashioned McCainiac Meltdown or perhaps even telling the ever polite Romney to F-Off.

EJDolbow on January 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM

SECOND LOOK AT THE O FETISH

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM

The WHAT fetish??

Darksean on January 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Stallone supports McCain

Chuck Norris is gonna be pissed.

CABE on January 24, 2008 at 1:41 PM

BTW Stalone just compared McCain to Rambo so it is the theme for him

I like McCain a lot,” said US actor Sylvester Stallone

William Amos on January 24, 2008 at 1:41 PM

“He voted against tax cuts in 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2005, and this year he’s for the tax cuts in the reconciliation bill. It looks like he did it for political reasons.”
–Grover Norquist, on McCain’s conversion

amerpundit on January 24, 2008 at 1:42 PM

0i…………

lobosan5 on January 24, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Slublog on January 24, 2008 at 1:32 PM

Hehe.

Theworldisnotenough on January 24, 2008 at 1:43 PM

McCain The Pain! Gifted not only with the ability to speak out of both sides of his mouth at the exact same time, but also with the ability of having his cake and eating it too! Too bad he had this thing about walking and chewing gum at the same time.

pilamaye on January 24, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Screw Rambo and Norris. Who does John McClane endorse?

infidel on January 24, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Again a stark reminder that Mitt is not electible

Rasmussen poll

As Campaign Season Begins, Only One Presidential Candidate is Viewed Favorably by Majority of Voters

The Arizona Senator is now viewed favorably by 53% of all voters (a total boosted by the fact that 56% of those not affiliated with the major parties have a positive opinion of him. Thirty-seven percent (37%) of voters nationwide have an unfavorable opinion of him.

Barack Obama earns favorable reviews from 43%, Fred Thompson from 42%, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani from 40%. Mitt Romney has the lowest total at 38%.

William Amos on January 24, 2008 at 1:45 PM

I hope Romney beats this guy in FL and puts a stop to his momentum.

Spirit of 1776 on January 24, 2008 at 1:45 PM

William Amos on January 24, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Fred!

infidel on January 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM

John McCain: I’d vote against the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts again.

You know, the Bush tax cuts.

Straight talk.

amerpundit on January 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Keep it up Maverick man and remind me yet again why I should NOT vote for you if you are the nominee.

For election night, I’m beginning to think…maybe vodka…

MadisonConservative on January 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Lots and lots of vodka! Or Rum. Or Whiskey.

SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Again a stark reminder that Mitt is not electible

And we all know that things are so slow to change in politics. What can this guy do if he wins the primary to introduce himself to voters and ramp up his positives?

Hmmm…

Slublog on January 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM

William Amos on January 24, 2008 at 1:45 PM

McCain started as the presumptive front runner, along with Rudy. Polls are fluid as name recognition cedes ground to familiarity with all candidates. I don’t think they matter much now at all.

Spirit of 1776 on January 24, 2008 at 1:49 PM

And we all know that things are so slow to change in politics. What can this guy do if he wins the primary to introduce himself to voters and ramp up his positives?

Hmmm…

Slublog on January 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM

I’d like him to speak out more about his foriegn poicy but for other voters I hope he keeps his economic message. That is his strong suit.

Dont gt me wrong I understand that the polls can change and I hope they do. Its just a warning to the Mitt Camp to address some serious problems it has in connecting with the voters

(Me included)

William Amos on January 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Heard this on KFI 640 AM this morning - sad state of our country…

With who is left, I would choose Romney. However, between Hillary and McCain, it is a no brainer. On a scale of 0 to 10, zero being “the end of civilization and 10 being Ronald Reagan, Hillary is a 1 and McCain is a 2. That means McCain is twice as good as Hillary.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Stallone supports McCain

Chuck Norris is gonna be pissed.

CABE on January 24, 2008 at 1:41 PM

What the hell is this, “My Action Hero Celebrity Endorsement Draws Bigger Box Office Than YOUR Action Hero Celebrity Endorsement!” ?

If that’s the case, somebody call up Bruce Willis and see if he’ll endorse Rudy or Romney.I think the last Die Hard flick out grossed Chuck Norris’s entire career by itself.

SuperCool on January 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Barack Obama earns favorable reviews from 43%, Fred Thompson from 42%, Mike Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani from 40%. Mitt Romney has the lowest total at 38%.

William Amos on January 24, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Again proof you have no idea what you are talking about. Polls BEFORE the nominees are picked are worthless.

Jan 1980 Gallup POll

Carter 63%
Reagan 32%

EJDolbow on January 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM

All those contradictions, lies and flip-flops .. and he’s already a lunatic and is teetering on the very edge of senility.

What if he presses the little red button for the nurse (Thursday is ice cream day!) and instead sends an ICBM barreling into Moscow?

TexasJew on January 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Dont gt me wrong I understand that the polls can change and I hope they do. Its just a warning to the Mitt Camp to address some serious problems it has in connecting with the voters

(Me included)

Heh on the parenthetical.

I think it depends on who he’s running against as well. Clinton has terrible numbers, and she’s better known so those are unlikely to move all that much. If it’s Obama, the job is tougher, but Romney would have the advantage on the GOP side of not being Huckabee or McCain.

Slublog on January 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM

William Amos on January 24, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Too bad the 53% of people that approve of McCain are all Democrats and Independents, which he splits with Barack and Hillary.

BKennedy on January 24, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Democrats’ Worst Nightmare

Seems like it.

bnelson44 on January 24, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Our hope is that Hillary and Obama get in a fight, throw a few punches, leaving Edwards as the candidate.
Maybe, just maybe, Mitt or McCain could beat him…other then that, looks like a long, losing campaign for the Republicans. We are stuck with the two most “national” electable Republicans, McCain and Rudy, or with an almost impossible electable, Mitt.
How did we get ourselves into this mess…

right2bright on January 24, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Wasn’t Chuck Norris (The High Reverend Huckster’s #itch) a clerk typist in the Air Force and Sylvester Stallone (Juan Plantation Strawberries McShamnasty’s #itch) a total no show?

I know I am supposed to be so impressed by them, but somehow … … …

MB4 on January 24, 2008 at 1:57 PM

No, McCain is the Republicans worst nightmare.
Because….. he is not a Republican.
You can go vote for that lying crazy scumbag.

TexasJew on January 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM

What if he presses the little red button for the nurse (Thursday is ice cream day!) and instead sends an ICBM barreling into Moscow?

TexasJew on January 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Well at least Putin would be safe anyway as he is the President of Germany or so I’m told.

MB4 on January 24, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Just one word comes to mind “MAVERICK”. He primarily got this name after his defeat by GWB in 2000. He was so PO’d at Bush,he opposed him at every turn. Put this nasty in the White House, and see what he will do for his embarrising loss on the “I’S NOT AMNESTY BILL”

pueblo1032 on January 24, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Rudy, with his idiotic strategy of skipping first primary states, in favor of FL, and thus dropping completely off the face of presidential politics, also having assumed that terrorism w/b front and center with FL/country, has literally taken himself out of the race, and given McCain the last resurrection.

Terrorism has faded in the ‘minds’ of most Americans and it was, is and will be

THE ECONOMY STUPID

Those who laugh at Fred/Rudy/Mitt/McCain/Huck-heads or -ens, start crying now, and stock up on liquor/drugs/cigars, or whatever you fancy to cry with on election night, self included.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Stallone? Norris?
Screw that. I want to know who Steven Seagal is endorsing. THAT will move voters!
Bwaaaa haaaa haaaaa

Sugar Land on January 24, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Screw McCain, but I’ll be at “Rambo” tomorrow on opening day.

thomashton on January 24, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Was that on Rush?

peski on January 24, 2008 at 2:05 PM

stock up on liquor/drugs/cigars, or whatever you fancy to cry with on election night, self included.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Don’t forget Guns!

And Gold!

Tuco on January 24, 2008 at 2:05 PM

stock up on liquor/drugs/cigars, or whatever you fancy to cry with on election night, self included.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Don’t forget “Learning Spanish for Dummies”!

VinyFoxy on January 24, 2008 at 2:07 PM

For election night, I’m beginning to think…maybe vodka…

MadisonConservative on January 24, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Lots and lots of vodka! Or Rum. Or Whiskey.

SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Everclear. Because I’m voting for a drunken coma this election.

Laura on January 24, 2008 at 2:11 PM

I’m waiting for Lindsey Lohan’s endorsement to make up my mind.

CABE on January 24, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Hmmmm, I see why people like him: charming, gregarious, KNOWS what he’s talking about on WOT. I am all for Mitt because Mitt’s the total pkg and McCain has stabbed me in the back too many times, but I see the appeal. No more interviews w/McCain (or his mom, she’s a pistol, too!)

JustTruth101 on January 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM

McCain can kiss my conservative butt.

This conservative is voting for Romney.

msipes on January 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM

I’ve always liked McCain…he was my first choice back in 2000 (but the powers that be at the GOP trotted Dubya out from the get-go as the nominee…and I still believe he was forced out of the race to make way for Bush) and he’s pro-life, fiscally-responsible, pro-Defense, and he sees that the illegal problem isn’t cut-and-dry. You have to secure the borders first, before you start kicking people out (or it’ll just be a vicious, expensive cycle).

I know that so many of my former FredHead clan are going Mitt, and don’t have nice things to say about McCain, but all-in-all, think of this: Presuming Hillary is the Dem’s nominee…Who stands the best chance of beating her?

McCain does. And he’s not as anti-Conservative as you like to believe…

JetBoy on January 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Everclear. Because I’m voting for a drunken coma this election.

Laura on January 24, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Now you’re talking!

Drunk voting may be the way to go.

SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 2:17 PM

I see that McCain won in Louisiana.
When did they give crawfish the vote?

TexasJew on January 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM

And we all know that things are so slow to change in politics. What can this guy do if he wins the primary to introduce himself to voters and ramp up his positives?

Hmmm…

Slublog on January 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM

For starters, knock it off with the shameless pandering and used car salesman demeanor. Watching Mitt’s campaign is like viewing a parody of every negative stereotype voters have of politicians.

Until I actually see him bleed, I’m not convinced that he isn’t actually a robot programmed by a large committee of campaign advisors driven primarily by focus groups and opinion polls.

Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Was that on Rush?

peski on January 24, 2008 at 2:05 PM

I don’t listen to Rush. As I said, I heard it on KFI 640 AM, and I gave the link where it probably came from.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Everclear. Because I’m voting for a drunken coma this election.

Laura on January 24, 2008 at 2:11 PM

Me too… but the hangover will be even worse than usual after seeing the results in the morning afternoon.

Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 2:20 PM

I see that McCain won in Louisiana.
When did they give crawfish the vote?

TexasJew on January 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Want to know what really, really sucks? Fred! had it in the bag. We were panting to vote for him, and he’d have gotten 47 delegates if he’d just stayed in the race a little longer.

Come to think of it, I’ll go get that Everclear now. No point in waiting until November.

Laura on January 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM

Better get some sombreros to go along with that Tequila and “Spanish for Dummies” if McCain wins.

AZCoyote on January 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

For starters, knock it off with the shameless pandering and used car salesman demeanor. Watching Mitt’s campaign is like viewing a parody of every negative stereotype voters have of politicians.

Until I actually see him bleed, I’m not convinced that he isn’t actually a robot programmed by a large committee of campaign advisors driven primarily by focus groups and opinion polls.

Hollowpoint on January 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM

Hey Hollowpoint, does this fit that negative stereotype too?:

http://confessionsofapoliticaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-often-do-candidates-do-stuff-like.html

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

“He voted against tax cuts in 2001, 2003, 2004 and 2005, and this year he’s for the tax cuts in the reconciliation bill. It looks like he did it for political reasons.”
–Grover Norquist, on McCain’s conversion

Yeah and Romney’s the flip flopper because he changed his stance on abortion (just like I did)?

Didn’t we ALREADY decide we didn’t want McCain for president in 2000?

He has such disdain for conservatives. I can’t stand the man.

NTWR on January 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

GO HILLARY!!!

Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 2:26 PM

For starters, knock it off with the shameless pandering and used car salesman demeanor.

Well, now…I’m pretty sure Romney’s hair is real.

Until I actually see him bleed, I’m not convinced that he isn’t actually a robot programmed by a large committee of campaign advisors driven primarily by focus groups and opinion polls.

If so, the whole “warmth.exe” program needs some updates.

Slublog on January 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

This is what I posted late in the other thread:

Honestly I think Romney is a smarter guy then McCain in ALL areas. He’s just intellectually superior then the simple minded McCamnesty. When it comes to foreign policy, or immigration or the economy, Romney is going to be far more competent then his opponents, whether it be McCain or Clinton or Obama. Republicans are slowly realizing this.

The way I see it is McCain is guaranteed to be a dissapointment to conservatives as President. If any conservative doesn’t know by now that McCain isn’t fighing on the same team they will be forever blind to that fact. Romney cannot be worse then McCain. That is not possible. But he might be a heck of a lot better. Romney has a much higher upside then McCain. Republicans know they don’t like John McCain for the most part. Republicans are not sure if they like Romney yet. What are they afraid of? Are they afraid Romney is going to be like John McCain and turn into a liberal about EVERYTHING? Seriously, at least we have a chance with Romney. There is no hope for McCain. We already know who he is.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

and he sees that the illegal problem isn’t cut-and-dry. You have to secure the borders first, before you start kicking people out (or it’ll just be a vicious, expensive cycle).

Yeah, that’s why he said he’d build the “goddamned fence” if he had to.

El Presidente! El Presidente McCain!

NTWR on January 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Don’t forget Guns!

And Gold!

Tuco on January 24, 2008 at 2:05 PM

Those, and ammo, are always stocked beaucoup, same with visits to the range, to stay sharp.

However, they won’t help much on election night. I can’t figure out if this is the darkest hour, or if it will be the night of the election. It’s depressing all around to see the state of the conservatives and independents. I thought so much more of both.

The single-issue voters are all nuts and the yahoos will, in addition to the leftie kooks, destroy this country, and what is still good in it. Not all who are not single-issue voters are RINOs.

I’m very sad-hearted for this country and the state of humanity for being such sheeple. Freely giving up independence is incredulous for me. Hardly anything depresses me more.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM

That screencap made me laugh.

CP on January 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Don’t forget “Learning Spanish for Dummies”!

VinyFoxy on January 24, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Not a problem - conversational Spanish acceptable.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Dude.
McCrankypants resembles Burgess Maradeth’s character than Stallone’s.

Heh.
McCain to Hillary: I’m ready to have this discussion!

PolitiNOOB on January 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

I agree wholeheartedly. What happens when conservatives go moderate? Liberals go even farther left. Trying to get a moderate (read, Democrat) elected as a Republican will very effectively grease the path for socialism/communism to slide right in.

NTWR on January 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM

McCandidate.

whitetop on January 24, 2008 at 2:36 PM

I can’t figure out if this is the darkest hour, or if it will be the night of the election.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM

And the drunkest will thrive
Yes, the sober will cower while the intoxicated will survive
If we wait for the darkest hour
Till we spring alive
Then with claws of fire, we rip open our wine bottles like a falcon in the dive

Percy on January 24, 2008 at 2:39 PM

http://confessionsofapoliticaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-often-do-candidates-do-stuff-like.html

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:24 PM

I am gifted with an uncanny ability to acurrately judge whether someone has character and integrity (I don’t know how or why, just that I ave been disappointed only TWICE in my entire life, and I am 43 years old) and I felt right from the start that Romney was the right kind of guy. Thanks, Zett, for the link.

JustTruth101 on January 24, 2008 at 2:39 PM

I have been disappointed wrong.

There, corrected my own typos

JustTruth101 on January 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Seriously, at least we have a chance with Romney. There is no hope for McCain. We already know who he is.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

I agree, I think Mitt is trainable.

Presuming Hillary is the Dem’s nominee…Who stands the best chance of beating her?

McCain does. And he’s not as anti-Conservative as you like to believe…

JetBoy on January 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM

If McCain is our only hope against the beast….Then.. I for one, welcome or new socialist overlords.

ChrisM on January 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM

“wrong twice” - ERRRR [preview is my friend...]

JustTruth101 on January 24, 2008 at 2:41 PM

Freely giving up independence is incredulous for me. Hardly anything depresses me more.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM

True E. I’ll second that sentiment. But keep that chin up for now. The darkest hour has not arrived yet. Dark forces are at work (they always are) but they have acheived nothing yet and the 1/3 of the population that matters is still standing between them and their socialist goals. So long as that 1/3 is still there they can never get what they want. A good leader and unifier will rise up in support of the vision of our founders. They always have before. They will again. Its certainly not too late.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Watching Mitt’s campaign is like viewing a parody of every negative stereotype voters have of politicians.

Heh. Except for marital infidelity. But Rudy and McCain are covering for him.

Mark Jaquith on January 24, 2008 at 2:43 PM

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Point taken, you leave out one important point…Mitt is not electable on a national level, Obama or Hillary out poll them.
The last election was a very narrow margin for Republicans, very narrow…Hillary or Obama will have a higher vote support than Gore…McCain (unfortunately)has a better, still slim, but much better chance than Mitt…Mitt is a sure loser to the Dems.

right2bright on January 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM

Percy on January 24, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Nice Percy. You made me smile, not laugh, just smile. I’m too depressed to laugh today. I don’t believe in much today. On your note, I’m good company, but I don’t drink much. Maybe I’ll start on election night, this year.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 2:45 PM

Seriously, at least we have a chance with Romney. There is no hope for McCain. We already know who he is.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:27 PM

Exactly. I’m willing to give Romney a chance. I couldn’t care less that he’s a Mormon. There are a lot of Mormons in Arizona, and while I don’t agree with their religious beliefs, I have found them to be very decent, family-oriented people. Most of the ones I know are also very conservative — something that can’t (truthfully) be said of McCain.

AZCoyote on January 24, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Point taken, you leave out one important point…Mitt is not electable on a national level, Obama or Hillary out poll them.
The last election was a very narrow margin for Republicans, very narrow…Hillary or Obama will have a higher vote support than Gore…McCain (unfortunately)has a better, still slim, but much better chance than Mitt…Mitt is a sure loser to the Dems.

right2bright on January 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM

We don’t have a national election. Lets see how things look after he wins the Republican primary. Numbers change especially when a candidate is in the process of introducing himself to the nation. But more importantly, national numbers don’t matter. I think more states will be in play with Romney at the top of the ticket along with a good VP then you are anticipating.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Point taken, you leave out one important point…Mitt is not electable on a national level, Obama or Hillary out poll them.

right2bright on January 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM

This means nothing at this point. As we’ve all seen, polls can change dramatically in a very short time. Hillary is so hated throughout this country that I find it extremely hard to believe voters would choose her over anyone else in the race.

With that said, Hillary will still win because conservative voters will not be showing up to vote. That, and the illegal aliens, dead people, and farm animals she’ll have showing up at the polls.

Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Exactly. I’m willing to give Romney a chance. I couldn’t care less that he’s a Mormon. There are a lot of Mormons in Arizona, and while I don’t agree with their religious beliefs, I have found them to be very decent, family-oriented people. Most of the ones I know are also very conservative — something that can’t (truthfully) be said of McCain.

AZCoyote on January 24, 2008 at 2:47 PM

AZCoyote, I agree, and in the interest of full disclosure I’m not a Morman. The one’s in my life I’ve known though have always been the type to do this:

http://confessionsofapoliticaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-often-do-candidates-do-stuff-like.html

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Heard this on KFI 640 AM this morning - sad state of our country…

With who is left, I would choose Romney. However, between Hillary and McCain, it is a no brainer. On a scale of 0 to 10, zero being “the end of civilization and 10 being Ronald Reagan, Hillary is a 1 and McCain is a 2. That means McCain is twice as good as Hillary.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Best way I’ve heard of putting it. Although, I think the analogy only really works if you score McCain as maybe a 1.5 , maybe 1.7

tom on January 24, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Point taken, you leave out one important point…Mitt is not electable on a national level, Obama or Hillary out poll them.
The last election was a very narrow margin for Republicans, very narrow…Hillary or Obama will have a higher vote support than Gore…McCain (unfortunately)has a better, still slim, but much better chance than Mitt…Mitt is a sure loser to the Dems.

right2bright on January 24, 2008 at 2:44 PM

And right2bright, this was posted in another thread but at this point in the primaries when Reagan was running Jimmy Carter had better then 60% support nationally compared with Reagans less then 30%. Believe me, those numbers mean nothing.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Best way I’ve heard of putting it. Although, I think the analogy only really works if you score McCain as maybe a 1.5 , maybe 1.7

tom on January 24, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Sorry. McCain is a big fat zero.

Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 2:55 PM

I don’t know about you, but every time I see McCain on TV, I CRINGE!

He just makes me CRINGE!
Then seeing Stallone,,,,DOUBLE CRINGE!

Go Romney or Rudy! Almost anyone but McCain.
Please God!

Conservaboomer on January 24, 2008 at 2:57 PM

I’ve got to believe even the Dems are gagging at their choices.

If only it were possible to convince the entire population to write-in “NONE OF THE ABOVE”

Can we start this entire process over with all new candidates? Please?

Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 3:02 PM

Hey McCain - I got your straight talk right here, pal.

whitetop on January 24, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Thanks for the link, Zetterson. That was an interesting story about Romney.

I don’t get all the anti-Mormon fervor. (I’m not Mormon either). I’m guessing that most of it is coming from people who don’t actually know any Mormons.

AZCoyote on January 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM

SECOND LOOK AT SETTINGS ON THE AUDIO COMPRESSION OF THE SECOND VIDEO!

calbear on January 24, 2008 at 3:09 PM

I don’t get all the anti-Mormon fervor. (I’m not Mormon either). I’m guessing that most of it is coming from people who don’t actually know any Mormons.

AZCoyote on January 24, 2008 at 3:08 PM

I know quite a few Mormons and would have been married to one if not for her “religious requirements.”

Every Mormon I’ve ever met has been an extremely good person. I don’t think people have any problem with “Mormons.” The problem is when you start looking at the Mormon “religion” which is made up of some pretty bizarre beliefs.

So I think you’re right. Those who actually know Mormons do not have any problem with them, but those who start digging into what their religion is about start freaking out.

Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Dole Part Deux!Were sunk…

ronsfi on January 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Registered Republican students from AZ request your early ballot for the primary online HERE!

Do it right NOW!

Deadline is Jan. 25th.

Vote Mitt!!

Deety on January 24, 2008 at 3:16 PM

Deety on January 24, 2008 at 3:21 PM

Can we start this entire process over with all new candidates? Please?

Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 3:02 PM

What would happen if NOBODY voted in November? How would the Constitution handle something like that?

SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM

So long as that 1/3 is still there they can never get what they want. A good leader and unifier will rise up in support of the vision of our founders. They always have before. They will again. Its certainly not too late.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Your hopeful outlook is admireable Zetterson, and so much needed these days. It’s the squishiness of that 1/3rd which makes me very nervous this year. Many of this 1/3rd forget what their independence, and giving it up, means.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM

What would happen if NOBODY voted in November? How would the Constitution handle something like that?

SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM

I’d love to find out

Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 3:42 PM

That, and the illegal aliens, dead people, and farm animals she’ll have showing up at the polls.

Gregor on January 24, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Since when did they actually have to show up at the polls?

Troy Rasmussen on January 24, 2008 at 3:50 PM

Your hopeful outlook is admireable Zetterson, and so much needed these days. It’s the squishiness of that 1/3rd which makes me very nervous this year. Many of this 1/3rd forget what their independence, and giving it up, means.

Entelechy on January 24, 2008 at 3:33 PM

E, the 1/3 is there. They are disheartened but there and ready to go for the right reasons. We saw the 1/3 step up to the plate during the whole Shamnesty debate. Do you remember how we felt that day? Do we remember what it felt like to see the 2/3’s defeated? Do remember who showed up on the side of the 2/3’s? Do we remember who showed up on the side of the 1/3? We should have received all the information we needed during that debate.

What I think is causing the deep ambivalence and reluctance of the 1/3 to show itself now, in this primary election season, is a bit like a battered wife sindrome. We have been betrayed lately by a few leaders who we thought were with us. We thought they were happy to be amongst the 1/3rd. They were not. We thought they loved our constitution and our founders who drafted it. They didn’t. Or at least it meant something different to them then it did to our founders, then it does to the 1/3rd. It hurts to have to stand up against one of your own. Its divisive. Now the 1/3rd is looking around and is careful not to elect one of the enemies claiming to be a fellow 1/3rd.

Right now we have the scariest senario. We have a leading candidate who we know is in line with the 2/3rds (McCain). Then his biggest competitor is claiming with every breath to be one of the 1/3 (Romney). But he has developed a reputation for maleability politically. Unpredictability is scary to us “battered wives.” We need to take a close look. A very close look and then as a fellow 1/3rder once said, “trust but verify.” This time around I think I’m leaning towards “trust but put a chain around their necks and don’t allow them to stray.”

Fight for everything E. Thats how we got where we are in the first place.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 3:50 PM

What would happen if NOBODY voted in November? How would the Constitution handle something like that?

SimplyKimberly on January 24, 2008 at 3:32 PM

I know I wont since Fred! dropped out but unfortunately bunches of misguided so called Republicans will. I’m almost led to believe the Libs are registering as Reps just to vote for these clowns in the primaries. I see no other explanation for this madness.

Buttercup on January 24, 2008 at 3:58 PM

How come the block quote thing shows up in the preview but not the actual post? Not sure what I’m doing wrong.

Buttercup on January 24, 2008 at 4:00 PM

How come the block quote thing shows up in the preview but not the actual post? Not sure what I’m doing wrong.

Buttercup on January 24, 2008 at 4:00 PM

You did fine Buttercup. You just had a dark block. The lighter block would have showed you block quote more fully. Scroll up. You’ll see all of the dark blocks look the same.

Zetterson on January 24, 2008 at 4:02 PM

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