I think touchdown Jesus would prefer a little monologue where she praises Him, tells other people how wonderful it is to be His, stretches her arms out like Jesus did on the cross, and dedicate her life to Him. That would be a good beginning.

PoliticallyIncorrectSandy on January 24, 2008 at 8:55 AM

Let me guess…you’re one of those people who fakes being overcome with emotion and ‘spontaneously’ reaches up with one or both arms while listening to Christian rock…

…because everyone else is being spontaneous, too.

unswayed by the fact that she was obviously kidding

I didn’t take it as kidding….The words you use represent what lives in your heart. If she believed otherwise, she never could have made this statement.

Because you atheists have no belief, you cannot fathom what these attacks mean to true believers. You’re in a position much a like a leftist trying to discuss Reaganomics.

Jaynie59 on January 24, 2008 at 12:40 AM

Cornelius Tacitus, AD 55-120, affirms that the founder of Christianity, “Chrestus,” was executed by Pilate during the reign of Tiberias.
Lucian of Samosata, late second century, objected to Christian worship of a man – acknowledging the existence of the Christians’ object of worship.
Suetonius, in his Life of Claudius, refers to Claudius expelling Jews from Rome for their activities surrounding a man he calls Chrestus. This expulsion is recorded in Acts.
Pliny the Younger, second century governor of Bithynia, refers to Jesus in a letter to Trajan.
Thallus and Phlegon both recorded that the land went dark when Jesus was crucified.
Mara Bar-Sarapion, late first century, wrote a letter to his son describing the Jews executing their King.
Flavius Josephus, born c. AD 38, described Jesus as a wise man, a doer of wonderful works, and referred to Him as “the Christ.” He mentions that He was executed by Pilate and rose from the dead.

She’s not hot enough to forgive quickly. I think a couple of full frontal nudes and a tearful appology and she is totally forgiven.

Rode Werk on January 23, 2008 at 6:01 PM

I think Touchdown Jesus would prefer a Hail Mary.

you’ve got no right not to be offended.

Get a therapist, man! Your hatred is bad for your health.

She learned that lesson.

2.

Somebody should tell all you Christians that Jesus is an imaginary figure and there is no historical proof that he ever existed. So it’s a little stupid to get bent about an insult to some guy you have no proof ever lived to begin with. Much less rose from the dead three days later.

At least Muslims have historical evidence that Muhammed was a real guy.

Jaynie59 on January 24, 2008 at 12:40 AM

Actually, the historical evidence that Jesus existed is extremely large and has never been seriously contested by historians. Belief in his message and in his rising from the dead three days later cannot be proven or disproven; they are matters of faith.

3.

So, in conclusion… AP: You’re an athiest and we get it. Your incessant pronounciation of this is martyr-esque and gets weary. I don’t see Bryan jumping up and down propogandizing his faith the way you do. I’m constantly amazed by how much restraint Christians often show in the face of opposing religions who flay Christianity and then turn around and act like they are somehow the ones who are truly oppressed.
Jockolantern on January 24, 2008 at 3:05 AM

AGREED!

If she had stopped with the first two f-bombs it would have just shown that she is a cheap slut incapable of expressing herself in a humorous way at a roast.

highhopes on January 23, 2008 at 7:39 PM

Someone wasn’t hugged enough as a kid.

Nonetheless, I have for some time felt a bit of resentment arising over AP and his evangelical atheism. Thus, I find myself visiting the site less than once I did.

I’ve e-mailed AP in regards to this and also wish he’d stop playing these nonsensical Christian-bating stories, but I keep coming back because I do find his conservative insight unique and always fascinating. Besides, Bryan is the resident evangelical here, so he at least provides some balance.

What I have constantly found amazing is how easily Christians are willing to be offended in instances like this. There’s nothing wrong with calling this woman accountable for some tasteless words, but to become take so much offense to this woman as to get bent out of shape over it is the kind of power that no one deserves to have over me or any other reasonable Christian. I prefer to let liberals hand themselves over to me when they take great offense at my words; I refuse to let them sling any sort of weight around my neck.

So, in conclusion… AP: You’re an athiest and we get it. Your incessant pronounciation of this is martyr-esque and gets weary. I don’t see Bryan jumping up and down propogandizing his faith the way you do. I’m constantly amazed by how much restraint Christians often show in the face of opposing religions who flay Christianity and then turn around and act like they are somehow the ones who are truly oppressed.

As for the ESPN lady, the story would’ve been far more intruiging had she actually used “Mohammed” instead of Jesus. We all knew she’d just get a little slap on the wrist for using the latter, but what sort of Britain-esque repurcussions would have accomodated her if she’d let the “M” word slip?

Jaynie59 on January 24, 2008 at 12:40 AM

Either the drunken monkeys got ahold of the keyboard again, or we have our first Islamic troll.

Jaynie59 on January 24, 2008 at 12:40 AM

I think you don’t exist.

Another dull knife in the silverware drawer of life.

At least Muslims have historical evidence that Muhammed was a real guy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Religious_affiliation

Most agree that what Sharpton does is messed up. You seem to want your own Sharpton.

Esthier on January 23, 2008 at 10:48 PM

You are kiddin’…right? In 2001, about 80% of Americans described themselves as Christian, according to the American Religious Indentification Survey. Using 300,000,000 as the baseline population of the USA (that’s a little high for 2001, but it’s close and it’s an easy number to use), 80% of that would be 240,000,000 folks. I don’t think that I’m going out on a ledge here to say that the VAST majority of these 240,000,000 people would be somewhat insulted by what Ms. Jacobson said. To your way of thinking, evidently that’s OK. We are just Christians. Has the Reverend Sharpton responded to this incident? After all, he IS a man of the cloth. What about Jesse Jackson? Oh yeah, I forgot. Ms. Jacobson wasn’t at Emory University drunkenly saying “F**k Malcom X”. THAT would be all over ABC, CBS, NBC, ESPN, MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, etc. Yup, I agree with TheBigOldDog. That double standard needs to be thrown into the dustbin of history.

Simply, it should be clear that any barely cognizant person, even in her cups, should expect some level of backlash for this type of statement at a public forum.

There are many things we might say in an outburst that we know would be hurtful or cause disruption – so as civilized chaps and lasses we tend to avoid such blurts. We see this to the extreme with those far a port and the fear of insulting radical Islam.

This common civility seems to be eroding when it comes to something so personal as the Christian faith. Yet…

She is free to say it again tomorrow without fear of a fatwah by archbishops or popes. To suggest, however, this would not bring offense to many (obviously not all) Christians is (I humbly believe) either disingenuous or tinged with agenda.

A point, again in my humble opinion – that AP and others seem to miss – is the congruence of the deconstruction of the Judeo-Christian ethos, the rise of radical Islam, and the agenda points of the far left.

In Europe, one result of this is the gain in strength of one of my least favorite types – neo-fascist groups.

This is not because most of the people who are suddenly listening to VB and the like are fascist starter kits. It is because they are looking for someone/something that is attempting to ameliorate what they see as attacks on their civilization.

Thus, AP and evangelical atheists might be faced with a choice – who is more of an ally and/or threat, the casual Presbyterian (et al), or the shadow Islamists who rejoice when Christianity is belittled and attacked?

How do you know she’s not a bigot? How do you know what’s in her heart?

I can ask you the same question. How do you know that she is a bigot. How do you know what’s in her heart?

For the record though, I was very clear in what I said.

I’m just saying that she isn’t a bigot for her remark.

For her remark.

I didn’t say she isn’t one. I actually finished the sentence a few words later.

For all I know she is a bigot.

This isn’t a matter of me getting over anything. I could care less if she was a raging bigot. I could care less if ESPN disciplined her or not. The issue here is the massive double standards of the media. I thought I already made that point very clear.

TheBigOldDog on January 23, 2008 at 7:28 PM

No, your issue is a desire to see the double standard corrected by making those who say things against Christians suffer the same fate of those who insult any other group of people. That’s not the same.

Most agree that what Sharpton does is messed up. You seem to want your own Sharpton.

TruthSeeker on January 23, 2008 at 8:52 PM

Well then, I must be one of those radical Presbyterians that go to church most Sundays. :-0

As I posted on this thread, there is a hostile anti-Christian strain on HA that I just don’t understand. It usually shows up in these types of stories and has absolutely nothing to do with topic. Somehow Bill Donohue became the nasty bastard of the story when all he did was object to a public figure bashing Christ! Like you, that’s far from my experience with unbelievers in “real life” who know of my faith and respect it while they hold different views.

Nonetheless, I have for some time felt a bit of resentment arising over AP and his evangelical atheism. Thus, I find myself visiting the site less than once I did.

I have my beliefs – low key, but beliefs – and I am somewhat amazed at the baiting and insulting of Christians that has become so much a part of some atheists’ patter.

My buds that are atheists (or, more usually, agnostic) have no fear that I will belittle them for their beliefs.

Why is it that some atheists have adopted the evangelical zeal they so obviously resent.

Love ya AP, but if someone as low key as I is becoming a bit disenchanted, it may be time to lighten up a tad – not all the way, for it is sometimes well deserved, but a tad.

TruthSeeker on January 23, 2008 at 8:52 PM

I’m with you on that.

Why are so many militant atheists on this site?

And Lent is only 2 weeks away. She should go to an Ash Wednesday service and do some pennance. It seems only fair.