AP runs Soros-funded anti-war “study” as hard news Updated: An inconvenient video

posted at 8:38 am on January 23, 2008 by Bryan

This AP story should have been labeled a press release. That’s what it amounts to.

A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The study concluded that the statements “were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.”

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism.

This late in the war, I’m not even sure why anyone would bother trotting out the “Bush LIED, people DIED” line. If you haven’t bought it by now, you’re not likely to, and if you already buy it, you already buy it. I suppose seeing it in print one more time could be your Daily Affirmation that we’re living in Bushreich’s Amerikkka.

In any case, by stopping the research at 2001, the story is set-up to misreport the facts. The Clinton administration spent years warning the public of the threat of Saddam and his WMD. They even bombed a pharma factory in Sudan on the suspicion that it was making WMD for both al Qaeda and Iraq. So the story either unintentionally or by design left out years of context.

Whatever the motivation, it’s clear that the reporter, Douglas K. Daniel, paid no attention to the man behind the curtain. The Center for Public Integrity is one of many George Soros fronts. Soros pays the bills and his minions, whether they happen to work at the CPI or the Center for American Progress or Media Matters or wherever, dance to his tune. And Soros has made it his life’s work to bring down the Bush administration. He says it’s the “central focus of my life.” Do you think people paid to to “research” by a man with that stated mission are likely to deliver unbiased findings?

Douglas K. Daniel either doesn’t know this or didn’t do his due diligence and report the full facts to his readers. Whatever the underlying issues are with his reporting, it’s dishonest to pass off press releases as journalism. He earns a fail.

Update: Texas Rainmaker has more.

Update: Well, here we go. The NYT is also reporting on this without paying attention to the man behind the curtain. Expect this to form the basis of a Special Comment and half a dozen Vicious Rants and Important Action Alerts.

Update: James Joyner weighs in.

Udate:
Roll the video tape!


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Douglas K. Daniel, Soros sock puppet extraordinaire!!

csdeven on January 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM

what’s the percentage of the public who don’t trust the media? About 80%?

forest on January 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM

Anything that comes from George Soros these days should be taken with about a 1/2 a grain of salt, but it is no big surprise that the AP would be reporting something like this as a major news story without even bothering to check the source. News organizations like the AP are so blinded with hate towards Bush that they could care less these days what the source is, as long as the story can be turned into a Bush hit piece. This is also why news organizations like the AP are losing their credibility by leaps and bounds every single day.

pilamaye on January 23, 2008 at 8:44 AM

And Soros has made it his life’s work to bring down the Bush administration. He says it’s the “central focus of my life.” Do you think people paid to to “research” by a man with that stated mission are likely to deliver unbiased findings?

Isn’t this the same guy who funded the Lancet study which has been so completely debunked?

Troika37 on January 23, 2008 at 8:44 AM

“This late in the war, I’m not even sure why anyone would bother trotting out the “Bush LIED, people DIED” line.”

Because their worst fears are being realized! People are starting to accept the fact that we’ve won the war, so now they hafta go back to claiming it was initiated under “false pretenses”. It’s all they have left in their arsenal.

Tony737 on January 23, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Let’s not forget to thank the MSM appointed “Republican frontrunner” John McCain for setting up the conditions that allowed the legal funding of this kind of propoganda.

highhopes on January 23, 2008 at 8:52 AM

I figured as much when I read the story last night. What do you expect from the AP?

packsoldier on January 23, 2008 at 8:54 AM

Fodder for the sheeple.

Fattening them up for the elections.

fogw on January 23, 2008 at 8:57 AM

A more meaningful study might be the number of statements made by the MSM and the left that undermined the U.S. war effort and contributed directly to the death of U.S. troops.

Think we could get crazy George to ante up for that one?

Potfry on January 23, 2008 at 9:06 AM

Isn’t this the same guy who funded the Lancet study which has been so completely debunked?

It’s been thoroughly debunked, but unfortunately not in the court of public opinion. The Lancet article made a huge political splash (as it was designed to do), was quoted thousands of times in thousands of articles, and entered The Narrative. I would bet most Americans believe it to this day. That the rest of the world believes it goes without saying, but it is the arena of American opinion that is the crucial battleground.

Nobody reads retractions, particularly when the media remains so heavily invested in the original “story”.

docob on January 23, 2008 at 9:10 AM

what’s the percentage of the public who don’t trust the media? About 80%?

forest on January 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM

Obviously not enough. :(

Fuzzball on January 23, 2008 at 9:17 AM

Yahoo was running this story last night as “most important”. I logged in under 4 different user accounts and rated the story a 1 star, hoping to lower it from a 4 star. My very very small contribution.

llano on January 23, 2008 at 9:17 AM

Dear Soros;

Terrorists are losing, Army is winning. I know you have lots of money, but can’t you spend it on something useful?? Like hospitals or something?

Stupid, stupid rich man.

mjk on January 23, 2008 at 9:22 AM

Great stuff. Nothing coming from Soros via the AP and NY Times mouthpieces can harm us. They’re the least trusted entities in the country.

Jaibones on January 23, 2008 at 9:35 AM

Update: Well, here we go. The NYT is also reporting on this without paying attention to the man behind the curtain. Expect this to form the basis of a Special Comment and half a dozen Vicious Rants and Important Action Alerts.

Ahhh….so they are treating it the same way Fox News is….

Sad.

Fuzzball on January 23, 2008 at 9:36 AM

Even if true, do AP and Soros think that FDR and Churchill, during wartime, spoke the simple, unvarnished “truth” to their enemies, through the “bully pulpit”.

Psyops is half of warfare.

You’re trying to intimidate the enemy, and if the home audience can’t grasp the need for it –to save their skinsc’est la guerre.

Although, in this case, the “lies” were more an instance of faulty intelligence (based on Saddam’s own ultimately-suicidal disinformation about his WMD programs), which every nation on Earth also believed.

profitsbeard on January 23, 2008 at 9:36 AM

You’d be ticked too if you’d spent a kazillion dollars to buy the next president and they sent you the wrong one.

Even bin Laden gets props for building hospitals and day care centers on the side while trying to destroy America. Soros just wants to destroy America.

saint kansas on January 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM

llano on January 23, 2008 at 9:17 AM

Its still the main story on the Yahoo main page.

broker1 on January 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM

It’s actually editorial commentary masquerading as a news story. The MSM backwater media is a leg-hugging lap dog of the left.
As for Soros: If he is so concerned about inequality in the world, then he can start writing checks to charity like a normal person instead of giving money to crooked politicians.
Soros is the reigning d-bag of left-wing finance.

whitetop on January 23, 2008 at 9:48 AM

This AP story should have been labeled a press release. That’s what it amounts to.

Not sure if you guys got my email on this, but that was almost exactly my sentiments.

This late in the war, I’m not even sure why anyone would bother trotting out the “Bush LIED, people DIED” line. If you haven’t bought it by now, you’re not likely to, and if you already buy it, you already buy it. I suppose seeing it in print one more time could be your Daily Affirmation that we’re living in Bushreich’s Amerikkka.

I disagree. For starters, I believe I could tie all of our countries current problems to how the “Bush lied” nonsense was treated – It was not reported fairly. If it had been, the media would have noted every time that all of the top Dems spent 13 years leading up to the war making a stronger WMD case than Bush ever did. Because the media didn’t do it’s job (or did if you’re a lib) enough people were tricked, and the Dems created a wedge issue for the 2004 campaigns and they’ve stuck to this nonsense, because it has worked.

Now, why repeat it again? Um, because calling it a “study” gives it some sort of credibility, especially when it pops up as the top story of the day.

Earlier it was the top headline on Yahoo!’s home page. Yahoo! is known for often writing outright lies in their headlines, that actually link to wire stories by different titles. Today’s wasn’t anymore dishonest than the AP’s actual headline, but it was more “juicy”. BUT NOW it is the top freakin’ feature on Yahoo.com, and there is a big picture of Bush next to a big bold faced:

935 false statements on Iraq

AS for this:

Douglas K. Daniel either doesn’t know this or didn’t do his due diligence and report the full facts to his readers. Whatever the underlying issues are with his reporting, it’s dishonest to pass off press releases as journalism. He earns a fail.

I’m feeling a little Trutherish here, given how obvious a piece of crap this is… I don’t know about Daniel, but what’s up with Yahoo! RUSHING this sh** to their home page, and then graduating it to a feature (outside of just the news headlines area). They are punching MILLIONS of people in the eye with a picture of Bush and the implication that he lied, first thing this morning. And then people click the link to read about this “study” but don’t have a f**king clue who was behind it, because Daniel conveniently forgot to mention.

This whole thing stinks. We’ve got economy issues a huge presidential race, celebrity death (which is usually the type of thing featured in that area), etc. etc. And the media is working together to push Soros propaganda as a “study”. I know people think ignoring these things make them better… but ask Bush’s poll numbers how that worked out for him…. Someone, hopefully O’Reilly or Hannity or something, needs to smash this thing, and someone needs to destroy Daniel’s career. Extreme? I don’t care, enough is enough from the AP… when does someone finally get held accountable for their countless infractions?

RightWinged on January 23, 2008 at 9:48 AM

Working for a non-profit, we’re ecstatic when the press picks up ONE of our press releases and uses it to lead a report. This might happen two times in a year for us.

George Soros’ funded non-profits make the NY Times nearly every day.

Maybe we should be soliciting Mr. Soros for funds.

gabriel sutherland on January 23, 2008 at 9:49 AM

Soros is adapting some of the same techniques that he uses to hide his money from being taxed in supporting these leftwing groups and their attacks on the Bush Administration. Using front groups (Media Matters, Moveon), funding “offshore” organizations (Lancet), et cetera.

To his credit (ugh), it’s mostly working. That’s because we have lazy journalists like this AP reporter who uncritically regurgitate press releases. It’s only later, when the attention is less intense, that the dishonesty is exposed (the Lancet study).

Second: As to the specifics. Well, of course the Bush Administration made inaccurate statements about Iraq’s WMD programs. But that is because the intelligence community completely misread Iraq’s arsenal. They gave the White House the inaccurate information.

Using the loaded term “false” implies a willful or deliberate deceit on the part of Bush et al. People go to jail for making “false” statements. People don’t go to jail for making statements that they believe are true when they made them.

There is no evidence – and I’ve seen nothing in this so-called report – to show that Bush, Cheney et al. knowingly made false statements. That’s the key.

Finally, it’s interesting that this organization didn’t examine the “false” statements made by Congress. Or by Clinton Administration officials.

The Soros dog that didn’t bark.

SteveMG on January 23, 2008 at 9:50 AM

This is why Western Leaders can’t act boldly short of a major catastrophe.

TheBigOldDog on January 23, 2008 at 9:51 AM

I wonder how many times the AP has made false statents?

drjohn on January 23, 2008 at 9:58 AM

This is all part of the last chance impeachment offensive and the MSM wants the fight(consciously or unconsciously).

stillaneocon on January 23, 2008 at 10:00 AM

There’s nothing like hindsight analyses.

How many home runs could Mantle have hit if he’d have known what pitches were coming?

Of course the retrospection aspect of the report is not noted.

drjohn on January 23, 2008 at 10:01 AM

I think a lot of folks are missing how big they’re trying to make this bunch of nonsense.

IT’S THE TOP FEATURE, NEXT TO A PHOTO OF BUSH ON YAHOO.COM RIGHT NOW!!!

I explained further a few posts up the page.

Man, the f**king the media really hates this country. Look what they’re trying to do to us with pushing these far left lies while we have real problems going on. I’m usually not shocked at their behavior, but this is just reaching a new level here.

RightWinged on January 23, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Well, this hit piece is now being featured on Yahoo News and though they mention the Center for Public Integrity, Soros’ name is no one to be seen anywhere.

pilamaye on January 23, 2008 at 10:07 AM

Soros paid for a study that claims the entire case for a war that removed a dictator was hype.
Soros paid for a study that claimed 6x as many Iraqis had been killed in that war than have actually been killed

If Rupert Murdoch paid for a study detailing 925 false statements made by John Kerry, John Edwards, and Hillary Clinton (all Democratic Presidential wannabees), and that study claimed they’d deliberately misled the nation and the world into a war to remove a dictator…would there be any AP noise about it?

If Rupert Murdoch bought a study that claimed only 1/6th of the actual casualties in Iraq…would there be any AP noise about it?

If a tree falls in the woods and no one from AP reports it…did it fall, and if a tree doesn’t fall in the woods, but AP says one hit the ground with a thundering crash…

…did a tree fall?

btw, did anyone actually look at this report? I did. Check out the chart they have showing that Bush Admin claims peaked in Aug 2002 (a month before the President started the diplomatic, political, and military buildup to the war with his 91202 address to the UN). I’d swear I saw that chart someplace else; Waxman report, or some other faux investigation. Anyone else seen it?

scottm on January 23, 2008 at 10:12 AM

In the interest of fairness and equality, I offer you all the following PDF:
The Lie That Bush Lied; Democrats Misleading America

scottm on January 23, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Also note the link to additional information leads to this page. And another thing:
“The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of intelligence agencies around the world,” Stanzel said.

The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.

Of course it doesn’t matter that the 532 of 935 statements made upon what was believed to be the truth which was wrong because of faulty intelligence…not Bush’s desire to misinform…the damage has been done by re-affirm the hate America first crowds derangement syndrome.

Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq’s links to al-Qaida, the study found. That was second only to Powell’s 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al-Qaida

Of course what they want is Bush to have “hid” in the white house and not try to keep people informed!

Oh, and don’t forget the other link adjacent to the article about how our combat troop deaths are nearing 4000. Tragic yes , a terible loss, but…we will honor their sacrifice by finishing the job, we will comfort their loved ones, and…we will also teach other generations about how despite the loss we did not suffer casualty rates like that in Vietnam or WWII…we fought smarter when we fought, and that nobody ever mentions how in the 1990’s under bill clinton each service routinely lost 600+ service members per year due to accidentl deaths…kind of puts it in perspective…doesn’t it?

RedLizard64 on January 23, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Front page headline on Yahoo this morning, along with other “breaking” news. The MSM is in full campaign mode — Must be an election year or something.

brak on January 23, 2008 at 10:23 AM

I’m for the AP and NYT knowing full well who funded the study.

In fact I’ll be so bold as to say they knew about the conclusions of the study even before the study was started.

CrazyFool on January 23, 2008 at 10:34 AM

and WMD wasn’t the only reason we took Saddam out, which gets lost in all this. They debated atleast 23 reasons, people only care about 1.

Iraq War Resolution

jp on January 23, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Anyone wonder if such a study funded by Rush Limbaugh would escape the scrutiny this has escaped?

drjohn on January 23, 2008 at 10:52 AM

George Soros, despicable is as despicable does.

Speakup on January 23, 2008 at 11:06 AM

It’s their last ditch,

D E S P E R A T E

Attempt to impeach Bush and get their revenge for Clintoon.

Mazztek on January 23, 2008 at 11:13 AM

Must…attack…lame duck….
Must…distract…from Clinton and Edwards support for war

[/Frankenstein voice off]

scottm on January 23, 2008 at 11:27 AM

They’re just getting ready for the impeachment proceedings. You know they’re all dilusional right? And they’re about to be in near control of the country. And Al Franken will be in public office. And Nancy and Harry will have their 60% majority. Won’t these next few years be a lot of fun? No?

Griz on January 23, 2008 at 11:37 AM

I saw this report last night and my very first thought was, “I bet Soros paid for that study.”

Buford on January 23, 2008 at 11:48 AM

You know, if Soros were to invest his money in more worthwhile causes, like building hospitals, feeding the hungry, funding medical research, that kind of stuff, instead of wasting his money trying to destroy Bush, I think the world would a slight bit better. Instead, he is throwing his money to the four winds and to wacked-out groups like moveon.org strictly on the basis of deep-set hatred towards a guy who is only going to be in office a few more months. Gets you to wondering at what point this guy Soros went so terribly wrong.

pilamaye on January 23, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Thank you, John McCain, for making the Soros “shadow party” machine possible and effective.

mojojojo on January 23, 2008 at 12:19 PM

This late in the war, I’m not even sure why anyone would bother trotting out the “Bush LIED, people DIED” line. If you haven’t bought it by now, you’re not likely to, and if you already buy it, you already buy it. I suppose seeing it in print one more time could be your Daily Affirmation that we’re living in Bushreich’s Amerikkka.

It’s one of those nostalgia things for the Liberals. Looking back on a time where they were able to make outrageous claims without 99% of people thinking they are crazy. Why do you think they all long for the 60’s?

RightisRight on January 23, 2008 at 12:27 PM

Interesting…I was listening to BBC on the radio last night in the wee hours of the night. The first thing I heard was the end of an interview with Soros. Then next was the start of the story of this study. I turned it off. I don’t recall them saying anything to show the connection.

purpleslog on January 23, 2008 at 12:39 PM

Working for a non-profit, we’re ecstatic when the press picks up ONE of our press releases and uses it to lead a report.

Having been on the other end, watching those press releases roll in over the fax machine, I think this is an important point to make.

Reporters are lazy, lazy people. They don’t go out and find news; the “news” is pushed to them. The PR person calls a conference, sets up some folding chairs with a folder on each containing all the key points and numbers, and sets out a table of bagels and coffee. That’s where so many sketchy statistics come from: Joe Reporter grabs ’em straight out of the PR folder without question.

Add to that that you can name your group anything you want: e.g., “The Fund for Independence in Journalism” (sounds like Seinfeld’s Human Fund to me).

saint kansas on January 23, 2008 at 1:00 PM

The biggest problem with AP is that it is used in many cases as the only source of information. For instance, my local paper is an AP affiliate. I’ve called them on that, but they’re not going to listen to me for 2 reasons. It is a financial decision to maintain their solvency and, they have joined with other left-leaning publications to effect change. Unfortunately, simply blogging about it is not going to dispel the lies. It can help a little, but not much. Neither Pajamas Media, nor AIM, have reached their potential, but both are still fairly new in the scheme of things. Perhaps we all have to put more effort into those organizations in order to be able to counter Associated Press.

Connie on January 23, 2008 at 1:06 PM

The video should be run on all networks, it is an excellent counter, in the different senators’ own words. The problem that no news outlet is currently questioning the accuracy, or the intent of this Soros funded continuous smear campain is proof that the networks are in cahoots with this lie.

President Bush is right about the Democrats and some Republicans attempt at revising history.

Rode Werk on January 23, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Stupid, stupid dangerous, dangerous rich man.

mjk on January 23, 2008 at 9:22 AM

Fixed, with indulgence,

Entelechy on January 23, 2008 at 1:09 PM

pilamaye on January 23, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Actually, Soros does do stuff like that all over the world, which is why it has been so impossible to take him down. He was also heavily involved in the beginnings of the euthanasia/right-to-die/hospice movement.

Connie on January 23, 2008 at 1:13 PM

These people are also ignoring the high ranking Iraqi and Russian officers that came out with books detailing the transport of the Iraqi WMD’s to Syria.

They also ignorethe Jordanian news story (reported by John Loftus) of the Iraqi truck seized at the Jordanian border with 20 tons of WMD materials…..

Don’t confuse them with facts!! They made up their narrow minds long ago….

dogsoldier on January 23, 2008 at 1:14 PM

I have a feeling the next president (whoever that`ll be) will be asked questions about this study and things like it for years. Also they`ll be demanding they hold hearing after hearing after hearing after hearing after hearing after hearing after hearing after hearing after hearing until they get an answer they like.

ThePrez on January 23, 2008 at 3:15 PM

I saved this from Free Republic:

Uh, yes tons of them were found:

1) 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium
In a joint Energy and Defense Department operation, 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium and approximately 1000 highly radioactive sources were secured from Iraq’s former nuclear research facility, packaged and then airlifted on June 23, the press statement said.
“This operation was a major achievement for the Bush Administration’s goal to keep potentially dangerous nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists,” Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham said in the statement. “It also puts this material out of reach for countries that may seek to develop their own nuclear weapons. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm

2) 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents
U.S. troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said Saturday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html

thegreatbeast on January 23, 2008 at 3:18 PM

More:

3) 17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin (a nerve agent five times more deadly than sarin gas)
“Laboratory tests showed the presence in them of cyclosarin, a very toxic gas, five times stronger than sarin and five times more durable,” Bieniek told Poland’s TVN24 at the force’s Camp Babylon headquarters.
“If these warheads, which were still usable, were used on a military base like Camp Babylon, they would have caused unforeseeable damage.” http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/07/02/international1018EDT0516.DTL
and:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124576,00.html

4) Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas. “Along with 1.77 tons of enriched uranium, about 1,000 “highly radioactive sources” were also removed.
The material was taken from a former nuclear research facility on 23 June, after being packaged by 20 experts from the US Energy Department’s secret laboratories.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm

5) Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and “conventional” sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

thegreatbeast on January 23, 2008 at 3:19 PM

The Clinton administration spent years warning the public of the threat of Saddam and his WMD. They even bombed a pharma factory in Sudan on the suspicion that it was making WMD for both al Qaeda and Iraq. So the story either unintentionally or by design left out years of context.

You liar, Clinton had nothing to do with Iraq. Leave Bubba alone, he left us with a surplus…remember?

SARCASM

Rick on January 23, 2008 at 3:20 PM

No WMD

Hmmm, somehow I don’t see AP picking up that story

scottm on January 23, 2008 at 3:34 PM

You have to admit, Soros and his troops are very good.

They have the advantage of a compliant press, to be sure. No way that a conservative philanthropist funding such projects could get away with it.

Any guesses on which MSNBC “news anchor” will be pushing this story?

Gee, let me guess…

SteveMG on January 23, 2008 at 4:19 PM

That video is great. The Demrat hypocrisy is so laughable and inconceivable at the same time.

FLcapitalistthug on January 23, 2008 at 4:43 PM

This late in the war, I’m not even sure why anyone would bother trotting out the “Bush LIED, people DIED” line. If you haven’t bought it by now, you’re not likely to, and if you already buy it, you already buy it.

Try replacing the word “war” with “Bush administration” and you have 90% of the answer. They don’t have much time left in the Bush administration to push for impeachment, so they’re trying again.

Amazing how so much money still doesn’t buy you effectiveness, though.

tom on January 23, 2008 at 6:18 PM

I really detest this monster. He’s like an Islamic terroristic who doesn’t care who he hurts – as long as it’s GWB.

Dollar’s golden era is ending, warns Soros

Connie on January 23, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Wouldn’t it be shame if Soros and Douglas were crossing the street and stepped into the path of a speeding bus?

2theright on January 23, 2008 at 7:06 PM

That video is always a classic, as are the 13 years of WMD quotes from the Democrats who now call Bush a liar, Clinton making Iraq regime change our policy a month before giving a blistering WMDs speech before attacking Iraq…

BUT that is all a different issue today. We’ve all known about those things all along, and the media never had any interest in busting the Dems for their big lie.

The issue here is the AP, and Yahoo.com pushing nonsense that was put together by a Soros group, when it’s nothing that hasn’t been said on liberal blogs for years.

I want the author of the article’s head and I want the head of someone at Yahoo! I don’t wield that power, but I’m really tired of the wire services, and especially how Yahoo! uses them, getting away with this crap.

RightWinged on January 23, 2008 at 7:43 PM

Colmes just tried to go after Ari Fleischer with this nonsense on H&C… He, as well as Hannity responded, but unless I missed something, EVEN THEY DIDN’T MENTION THE SOROS CONNECTION!!! Damn it, people are missing the point. We can, as we have been, point to Democrats WMD quotes for 13 years leading up to the war… it doesn’t matter, because the MSM never covers it fairly… but the issue is that the MSM is now pumping this new piece of Soros crap as a “study” when it’s NOT. It’s purely far left blog propaganda put out by “groups”, intended to look like a “study”. The media knows it’s bologna. The point here is not the same old “Dems did it too”, it’s that this many years later and the media is running full fledged anti-American propaganda.

RightWinged on January 23, 2008 at 9:35 PM

Soros? Looks more like PSOROIASIS

TheSitRep on January 23, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Someday, when we have an actual press corps that actually investigates and reports on things… they probably won’t want to talk much about what went on around the turn of the millenium. Too embarrassing to be associated with that moral cesspool that used to be called “the mainstream media.”

Merovign on January 23, 2008 at 11:49 PM

Someday, when we have an actual press corps that actually investigates and reports on things… they probably won’t want to talk much about what went on around the turn of the millenium. Too embarrassing to be associated with that moral cesspool that used to be called “the mainstream media.”

Merovign on January 23, 2008 at 11:49 PM

Sorry, but I think that’s some unrealistic wishful thinking. The situation only gets worse every day (as is evidenced with this current nonsense), and there is no sign of any type of turnaround.

RightWinged on January 24, 2008 at 12:55 AM

Great video. Especially glad to see it was made by the GOP. Perhaps they’ve grown a pair.

Tzetzes on January 24, 2008 at 3:58 AM

Great video. Especially glad to see it was made by the GOP. Perhaps they’ve grown a pair.

Tzetzes on January 24, 2008 at 3:58 AM

I don’t know why this frustrates me so badly… but THAT VIDEO IS OLD, PEOPLE! The GOP put that video together before an election… I believe 2004. They have NOT grown a pair, they are repeatedly castrated every day.

I’m not saying those Dem quotes aren’t important, but I am saying this is old and never got any play at the time, because the media has decided how “WMDs” will be remembered, and it’s disgusting that they’re taking Soros propaganda out even now at this late date, and calling it a “study”, and acting as if it came from some non-partisan group.

RightWinged on January 24, 2008 at 6:48 AM

Another day, another far left press release masquerading as news. Once again, no mention of the Soros/MoveOn.org connection.

SailorDave on January 24, 2008 at 7:26 AM

The two main points of this propaganda piece are wrong.

1) There were WMDs in Iraq. Duelfer found “dozens” of WMD immediately after the invasion and low level production of chemical weapons which he speculated were for purposes of research or terrorism. The WMD count was up to 500 found as of about a year ago. The latest analysis of captured Iraqi government documents shows Saddam destroyed about a quarter of his WMD, sold a quarter to his Arab neighbors, had the Russians move a quarter of it out of Iraq immediately before the invasion, and held a quarter of it.

2) Iraq had ties to Al Qaeda. These were reported in the Western and Arab media before Sep 11. Saddam had informal contacts with Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda group from the time they were in Sudan. An Iraqi agent facilitated and attended a meeting of terrorists in Kuala Lumpur at which two of the Sep 11 skyjackers attended. You just can’t get around that.

It appears that the far Left is following Lenin’s dictum that a lie told often enough becomes the truth. Already, it is common wisdom that Iraq had no WMDs nor ties to Al Qaeda, two assertions easily proven false.

Tantor on January 24, 2008 at 11:03 AM

New mantra:

Saddam lied, people died!

SailorDave on January 24, 2008 at 5:16 PM

Center for Public IntegrityAbsurdity

How is it that a man like Whoros, who survived one of the worst episodes of genocide in history, winds up using his wealth and influence trying to get his adopted country to commit suicide? Seriously, what happens to these people??

labrat on January 26, 2008 at 8:19 PM

Deeper evaluation will show more than just who funded the study. Evaluation of the study methods are troubling….

“Over the past several months, National Journal has examined the 2006 Lancet article, and another [PDF] that some of the same authors published in 2004; probed the problems of estimating wartime mortality rates; and interviewed the authors and their critics. NJ has identified potential problems with the research that fall under three broad headings: 1) possible flaws in the design and execution of the study; 2) a lack of transparency in the data, which has raised suspicions of fraud; and 3) political preferences held by the authors and the funders, which include George Soros’s Open Society Institute.”

http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/databomb/index.htm

scruplesrx on January 26, 2008 at 10:39 PM