The big six agree on strengthening Iran sanctions
posted at 8:00 pm on January 22, 2008 by Bryan
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Or so says the headline. The story looks rosy too.
The U.N. Security Council’s permanent members and Germany agreed Tuesday on a new draft resolution on sanctions against Iran, strengthening existing measures over the country’s refusal to suspend its nuclear program, officials said.
Germany’s foreign minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, said Germany, France and Great Britain would submit the draft to the Security Council, for discussion in coming weeks.
“We agreed together today on the contents of such a resolution,” he said after meeting his counterparts from the U.S., France, Britain, Russia and China.
Officials said that all six in attendance at the two-hour meeting would vote for the resolution.
A European diplomat and a U.S. official, both speaking of condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said the resolution would expand existing sanctions. But the European diplomat said it would not feature new economic sanctions.
Hey, great, the big powers agree! Except that behind the scenes there’s likely to be the usual back and forth and watering down so that neither Russia nor China actually has to give up a single bit of their trade with Iran. That “no new sanctions” and how one defines that is sure to become a sticking point. And it won’t be the only one.
There will be last minute objections, consultations and furrowed brows until finally at some point the UNSC+1 draft something that they can really all support because it won’t actually do very much.
So I doubt Mahmoud is losing any sleep.
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Hows that saying go???
I’ll believe it when I see it?
Or AFTER it’s been instituted with a track record.
What does it even mean? I’ll chose not to believe it.. yet.
shooter on January 22, 2008 at 8:05 PM
What the hell is going on? First the UN says that things are going well in Iraq, now this!!!!
Why am I in this parallel universe and what have you done with the one I was in?????
conservnut on January 22, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Good. We should not be preparing to use military force unless their nuclear weapons program is restarted. Give diplomacy and sanctions a chance before we send our men and women in uniform in harm’s way.
BlackCapitalist on January 22, 2008 at 8:09 PM
This is nothing more than window dressing. We won’t be able to stop them with words. The mullahs are hell bent on obtaining nuclear weapons. You can bank on it!!
jerrytbg on January 22, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Just broadcast in images of women in burqas reading the Torah and the Bible and Buddhism’s Tripitaka and The Tao Te Ching and Ramayana and Rig-Veda and Poetic Eddas and Popul Vuh and the Laws of Manu and Also Spoke Zarathustra and Epic of Gilgamesh -all in Iranian- to confuse these post-Persian peckerwoods.
There are more weapons than MOABs.
profitsbeard on January 22, 2008 at 8:38 PM
So does this mean Russia’s nuclear fuel is still
waiting to be shipped,on route or already in the
hands of the Iranian Military!
And is this going to be same thing all over again,
where China,Europeans are for it,then at the last
minute against it!
canopfor on January 22, 2008 at 8:38 PM
Nah, when Iran does pull the trigger and still haven’t even buried the dead yet…it’ll be the US’s fault.
AUINSC on January 22, 2008 at 8:49 PM
War with Iran is inevitable, but victory is not. It’s past time to forget cooperation from China and Russia. Our policy should be to organize a coalition to defeat Iran NOW.
Bugler on January 22, 2008 at 8:53 PM
canopfor on January 22, 2008 at 8:38
next fuel
jerrytbg on January 22, 2008 at 9:04 PM
canopfor on January 22, 2008 at 8:38
sorry but that didn’t work let me see what I can do. Anyway, it’s an english language Russian newspaper.
To ans the question, yes, they already have it.
jerrytbg on January 22, 2008 at 9:09 PM
fuel delivery
jerrytbg on January 22, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Meanwhile, the big five are considering ’sanctions’ of their own.
RedWinged Blackbird on January 22, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Putin is still fuming underneath about the demise of his beloved Soviet state. He will continue to allow Iran to be a thorn in our ass.
whitetop on January 22, 2008 at 9:35 PM
He knows the U.N. is weak. He knows that the mainstream media in the USA is on his side. He has nothing to fear…except Israel.
jediwebdude on January 22, 2008 at 9:53 PM
jediwebdude on January 22, 2008 at 9:53 PM
You could be right!!
look here.
jerrytbg on January 22, 2008 at 9:57 PM
As in WWII Russia will get more than what it bargained for in cutting deals with the devil.
Soon Iran will get the doomsday tool, and Russia will too late learn that Islamic purity applies to their brothers north across the border from Iran, and frustrated with ultimate checkmate with Israel and sudden reluctance from their cold war supplier, the struggle to the north will be an easy play.
This time cold Russian winters won’t matter.
Starlink on January 22, 2008 at 10:06 PM
What makes you think it isn’t restarted? I hope you aren’t going by that extortionist NIE report which contradicted itself. And, making the weapons themselves isn’t even the difficult or time consuming part. The hard part is creating the fissionable material and all those centrifuges are still humming right along. We’ve already given European diplomacy over 4 years, and we’ve seen how well sanctions worked in Iraq. Iran is milking it for time, that is all they need. Once they have the bomb, you can forget diplomacy. From then on, it’s blackmail and Al Qaeda with nukes.
a capella on January 22, 2008 at 10:32 PM
I love it when you say “big powers”!
km on January 22, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Fuel delivery
jerrytbg on January 22,2008 at 9:14PM.
jerrytbg:Thanks for the link,absolutely superb!
canopfor on January 23, 2008 at 12:26 AM
WTF? There is no evidence indicating that the Iranian goverment and Al Qaeda are working together. In fact, the Iranians have some Al Qaeda leaders in prison.
I’m not contesting that the Iranians eventually want nuclear weapons, I am contesting that Al Qaeda has anything to do with the Iranian government.
But I see exactly where this is going…
I won’t be surprised to hear that North Korea also has connections to Al Qaeda…
…damnit
BlackCapitalist on January 23, 2008 at 1:09 AM
Let it be known: I am officially increasing my personal sanctions on Iran.
There, that should have about as much effect as the UN will.
tikvah on January 23, 2008 at 1:35 AM
ROFL!!! Iran is helping AQ not actually imprisoning them. Jeepers. You can’t believe their propaganda. UBL has been a guest of the Iranians.
As for the Iranian nuke program, it never actually stopped. Thats just BS from a few former state department libtards suffering BDS.
dogsoldier on January 23, 2008 at 7:01 AM
I saw an interesting program about ancient prophecy on the history channel the other day. It was about the end of the world being on the winter solstice in 2012. they had an odd segment about a computer program project called web bot. Apparently the web bot program was written to predict stock movements in the mid 90’s. But now it makes general predictions as well.
It apparently predicted 9/11, the 2004 tsunami, and hurricane Katrina, it also apparently is predicting a limited nuclear war for mid 2008 early 2009. Sounds like GW just may lose patience with sanctions and take care of Iran himself just before leaving office.
doriangrey on January 23, 2008 at 9:06 AM
What exactly is the list of sanctions?
Kevin M on January 23, 2008 at 9:06 AM
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