Report: Fred dropping out; Update: Confirmed; Update: What went wrong? Update: The man who stopped Huckmentum

posted at 2:18 pm on January 22, 2008 by Allahpundit

Ambinder says so and Carl Cameron is reporting it on Fox now. Stand by for updates.

Update: Cameron says it could come tonight or tomorrow. He’s already informed his campaign headquarters, in person.

Update: The website hadn’t been updated in four days. The “Fred File feed” is already offline.

Update: Here’s the official statement via his web guy, Jon Henke:

McLean, VA – Senator Fred Thompson today issued the following statement about his campaign for President:

“Today I have withdrawn my candidacy for President of the United States. I hope that my country and my party have benefited from our having made this effort. Jeri and I will always be grateful for the encouragement and friendship of so many wonderful people.”

Update: The problem in one word: Not laziness but disorganization. Karl’s been doing yeoman’s work at Goldstein’s place lately tracking how Hillary managed to eke out wins against Obama despite the fact that he’s well-funded and light years more charismatic than she is. Read this post and follow the links to the Las Vegas Sun and, especially, to Zak Exley to see what it takes. The media likes sexy/dopey pop-psych narratives about election-eve crying and racial jabs, but organization matters — a lot, a rule Fred always seemed to believe he could ignore by counting on his True Conservative status to carry him through. Again I point you to this Mark Steyn post, or to MM’s tale of how his people couldn’t pull it together to get 500 signatures in Delaware. If the lesson (or one of the lessons) of Ron Paul’s newsletter fiasco was that you can’t trust a guy to manage a country if he can’t manage his own vanity publication, how can you trust a guy who can’t figure out how to get on the ballot in all 50 states?

So I’m chalking it up to disorganization. The alternative, that Bush killed the Reagan coalition dead and left Thompson types inviable no matter how efficiently their machines might run, is simply too terrible to contemplate.

Update: He served up the red meat, says Geraghty, but he didn’t char-grill it.

Update: I fear this news calls for anti-humpbot.

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Update: Mitt’s race to lose now in Florida?

Update: I flagged these links after the South Carolina but we’re in obit mode here so let’s bring them back. What’s the legacy of Fred’s campaign? Disappointment and disorganization, yes, but something else too:

The reaction from Marvin Katzen, the McCain supporter who told us earlier in the evening that he was looking for vindication from the 2000 loss to tonight’s win: “Thank God for Fred Thompson.” Katzen credits McCain’s victory to the fact that Thompson split the conservative evangelical vote with Mike Huckabee in Upstate.

“While well behind and tied for third place with Romney, Thompson did make gains,” wrote Thomas Edsall, “and the data suggest that the 6 points Thompson picked up came out of Huckabee’s hide.” Huck’s own people admitted as much. It falls to Romney to finish McCain but Fred can claim a moral victory in having dispatched the demagogue.

Update: If you believe ARG, and you probably shouldn’t, McCain’s lead in Florida is now large enough that picking up Fred’s supporters won’t matter to Mitt.

Update: A wistful eulogy from Spruiell.

Update: Rich Galen, a now former Fred advisor, is pushing his man for veep.

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Prediction: Fred’s support goes 60-30-10 Romney-McCain-Huckabee. Rudy’s supports about to erode, too, when people start figuring out that Mitt may beat the other moderate in the race, and that Rudy’s floundering as an alternative.

Vizzini on January 22, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Well, about the extreme religious part backing itself into a tight corner, anyway.

amerpundit on January 22, 2008 at 3:00 PM

I’m surprised that so many of you are in shock. If Fred were to run this country the way he ran his campaign we would be worse off in 2012. He did the right thing by dropping out. I’ve been behind Mitt since day one and I would have to say that I don’t even think I would want Fred as a VP. We need a VP who isn’t wishy washy about what he wants to do. If he can’t make a simple decision about whether to run or not then how can he be trusted to make more important decisions. Fred has no one to blame but himself.

calirighty on January 22, 2008 at 3:00 PM

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Where in the world did you get those notions? Those votes would have tended as much if not more toward Mitt, as we’re seeing now. Huckabee won’t even come close in Florida.

Vizzini on January 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM

fourstringfuror on January 22, 2008 at 2:57 PM

I don’t think Thompson would have played well in other either. So it’s not the early states fault either. It’s disorganization, like Allah said. I was listening to Dennis Prager yesterday and he had a reporter say that Fred would give 8 min. stump speeches to people who had traveled hours to hear from him. He would tell them “You don’t want to here from me.” All that time he spent contemplating his running should have been spend on getting a good organization.

terryannonline on January 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM

tommylotto on January 22, 2008 at 2:52 PM

Just wait and see…
Hell, even in their debates, I can’t tell you how many times I heard “I agree with Fred”.
You’re a bitter little slug in victory. You need help.

edgehead on January 22, 2008 at 3:02 PM

No but he and MM sure didn’t help! Hope they get what they deserve. HILLERY!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on January 22, 2008 at 2:50 PM

Ok lets please stop this, as a Fred guy Allah and the bunch did a great job, both for Fred and showing posts showing his negatives. Fred supporters should stand with me and show that we are gracious in our exit.

Allah, Bryan…good job in the last 4 months on this issue.

broker1 on January 22, 2008 at 3:02 PM

On what? Any other regular commenter here can tell you that I preferred Fred (mildly) to anyone else in the field. I simply refused to kid myself about his chances. Thinking a guy can’t win isn’t the same as hoping he won’t. Everyone else seemed to get that except you.

Well, that’s not quite true; others don’t get it either. To them, if you dare to report any negative fact about Fred — or even subject his campaign to a little constructive criticism and/or gentle ribbing — you’re agin’ ‘im. I don’t recall your making your preference for Fred explicit, but clearly he was the consensus candidate of Hot Air and of its readers. Fewer candidates makes the choice easier for the rest of us — and having more solid conservative undecideds is bad news for everyone but Mitt — but it’s too bad Fred is out (and that he’s a bit old to try again in 2016 or even 2012).

calbear on January 22, 2008 at 3:02 PM

I am now suffering from political PTSD. Where is the vodka.

Fred!(I am in denial)

infidel on January 22, 2008 at 3:02 PM

Did Arkansas improve in any measurable during the reign of the Huckster?

eLarson on January 22, 2008 at 3:02 PM

I hear Huck & McCain are conspiring together to try to draw votes away from Romney. Rumor has it, Huck told McCain he would take down Romney and draw vote away if McCain promises him the VP spot on the ticket.

If this is true, I’m definitely for Romney. I don’t want any dirty, back alley coalitions determining who is nominated for the Republican ticket. Wasn’t this how Reagan was treated before he actually got nominated in 1980? Alot of dirty attempts to block Reagan’s nomination?

Planet Boulder on January 22, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Well, I’m pretty much done with the Republican party.

I MIGHT vote for Romney…but most likely I will either hope someone independent gets it going for the general election or I’m tossing my vote.

I will never give my valuable vote to RINOs.

If only McCain would wake up and smell the illegal immigration BS he is shoveling. If he would be tough on illegal immigration, then I would put my vote in for McCain…but he kicked me right in the balls when he voted for that amnesty bill. He still to this day his a hard ass and he will pay for that… by not getting my vote.

McCain… You are not fit to be the President of the United States. You have betrayed us.

msipes on January 22, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Thanks for the jokes Fred!

omnipotent on January 22, 2008 at 3:03 PM

SECOND LOOK AT THE BLIMP!

Waiting for Vinnie from AoSHQ to come chime in on the blimp….

broker1 on January 22, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Huckabee 47%

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 2:59

You are off your nut, man.

yo on January 22, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Oops correction, Vinne is from MyPetJawa.

broker1 on January 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM

That bunny kill vid reminds me of a French film.

peski on January 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Vizzini on January 22, 2008 at 3:00 PM

What Fred supporter would now support Huckabee? I don’t think Huck will get any of Fred’s voters. Rudy would get more than Huck!

CABE on January 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Spirit of 1776 on January 22, 2008 at 2:59 PM

So you also think it’s AP’s fault that I wussed and didn’t double down a couple of times I should have and won more money??

:))

thirteen28 on January 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM

My apologies to you, Ms. E., for the courseness of my diatribe.

To you, tommylotto, I say Feh!

Tennman on January 22, 2008 at 2:58 PM

No apology needed, no offence here. Enjoyed it – it was so much more effective coming from you. An ars calling another one the same is pretty meaningless, but a gentleman calling an ars to task, now that was impactful. Same love and respect,

Entelechy on January 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM

peski on January 22, 2008 at 2:55 PM

Go ahead jerk @%F kick the Christians out of the republican party..you know what you’ll be left with???

Probably about 1 million people. You going to win any elections with a 1 million member party? No.. never again.

Christians are by far the largest faction of the republican party..without us you have nothing!

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Florida Fred supporters, you should vote for Rudy. Here’s why. If Rudy wins Florida it will still be a 3 man race and McCain will be weaker and will start running out of money. If you vote for Romney and McCain wins, Rudy is done… Which gives us a McCain VS Romney showdown. Which means there’s a 50/50 chance of us getting stuck with McCain. VOTE RUDY IN FLORIDA!

froghat on January 22, 2008 at 2:51 PM

Let me get this straight. You’ve spent the past how many days insulting Thompson supporters, exhibiting bad form and the lack of any general discipline.

Now that Thompson’s out, you want them to vote for your guy? You’re courting the same ignoramouses you spent all your free time berating?

Darksean on January 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Focus 1 – get rid of Huckabee
Focus 2, and just as important – get rid of McCain

Entelechy on January 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM

The problem in one word: Not laziness but disorganization.

I couldn’t disagree more. Laziness IS the word. If he wanted it, he’d have gone after it with energy instead of allowing it to come to him. There’s two kinds of people in business; (and politics) the fast and the dead. It’s a shame that he gave such a half-assed effort for you people who supported him. And maybe it’s more of a shame that you continued to support him despite his lackluster “effort”.

RWLA on January 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM

So I’m chalking it up to disorganization. The alternative, that Bush killed the Reagan coalition dead and left Thompson types inviable no matter how efficiently their machines might run, is simply too terrible to contemplate.

Most Republicans are still undecided… so I think that bodes well for the “disorganization” theory. If people were 100% supporting McCain, Rudy, Huck and Mitt — then it’d be time to start considering that conservatism is dead.

Mark Jaquith on January 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM

without us you have nothing!

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:05 PM

And that kind of attitude makes me say good riddance to your kind of Republican.

MadisonConservative on January 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM

thirteen28 on January 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM

lol, yeah:) It seems as likely as someone up thread saying Huck was going to win!

Spirit of 1776 on January 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Christians are by far the largest faction of the republican party..without us you have nothing!

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:05 PM

I know christians, you sir, are not a christian.

infidel on January 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM

The last conservative has dropped out of the race. Now let’s hope the party stops feeding upon itself and NOT nominate McCain or Huckabee, which will be the death knell for this country.

trainwife1962 on January 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Too bad about Fred. He was the cantankerous old man keeping the voice of the past alive in the present political race. His voice will be missed.

Prediction: Fredheads will go to Romney. He’s the only old-school conservative left even with his baggage.

Viscount_Bolingbroke on January 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM

CABE on January 22, 2008 at 3:04 PM

Maybe, but I’ve got a feeling Rudy’s support is trending away from him, even for those who might otherwise have had him as a second choice.

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Pipe down while we’re repressing you.

Vizzini on January 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Thompson to be Rudy’s VP??

From the link on Drudge:

http://www.examiner.com/a-1172864~Thompson_may_position_himself_for_VP_bid.html

Galen said Thompson could end up as vice president because he could mitigate the conservative shortcomings of potential nominees such as Rudy Giuliani.

“Having somebody like Thompson on the ticket, it seems to me, could go a long way toward unifying and energizing the base,” Galen told The Examiner.

“I don’t even know if he’d take it, although I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of anybody turning it down,” he added. “He has said flat out he’s not interested in becoming vice president, but that’s what they all say.”

froghat on January 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Thanks AP—now I have the Brown Bunny and Fred image stuck in my mind!

Steve LLamabutcher on January 22, 2008 at 3:08 PM

I’m let down and betrayed by the GOP. Let down by Fred’s half-assed effort after he made people like me believe in him, let down by the rest of our party’s stagger towards the middle (if not the left) of the political spectrum….

What a joke. I would vote for Romney, but only because he’s a far less evil than anyone the Democrats will run against him. But when I pull that level, I’ll be voting for a man and not a party. I really do believe this is the beginning of the end of the GOP and the sooner we all realize that, blow it up and start over the better off we’ll all be.

Oh, and if McCain’s the nominee, I’m staying home.

World B. Free on January 22, 2008 at 3:08 PM

bnelson44 on January 22, 2008 at 2:53 PM

With it being obvious for some time now that Fred was either a longshot or had no shot, I’ve considered whether I should lay off criticism of Romney since McCain is no better and Huckster is worse.

Then he pulls me back in with shameless pandering like this. Bloody hell, what next? Government R&D money for beer and cheese research while campaigning in Wisconsin? Legalizing pot when in California? Subsidized ammunition in Texas?

How he can look at himself in the mirror and sleep at night I don’t know.

Hollowpoint on January 22, 2008 at 3:08 PM

I’m surprised that so many of you are in shock. If Fred were to run this country the way he ran his campaign we would be worse off in 2012. He did the right thing by dropping out. I’ve been behind Mitt since day one and I would have to say that I don’t even think I would want Fred as a VP. We need a VP who isn’t wishy washy about what he wants to do. If he can’t make a simple decision about whether to run or not then how can he be trusted to make more important decisions. Fred has no one to blame but himself.

calirighty on January 22, 2008 at 3:00 PM

I do see your point, and it goes without saying that you can’t win if you can’t run a good campaign. Fred certainly didn’t run a good one, except perhaps maybe towards the very end, when it was too late.

But sometimes I wonder if running a good campaign is necessarly a good gauge of measuring how someone will govern. After all, Jimmy Carter ran a good campaign in 1976, but we all know how he governed.

thirteen28 on January 22, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Mike Huckabee has a huge base of supporters and now that Thompson is out Huck will win!

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 2:51 PM

That’s probably why he’s out of money.
Harald, I think underneath it all you have a man crush on John Edwards. He’s a role player too. “Fess up, now.

a capella on January 22, 2008 at 3:09 PM

And Huckster has only been getting about half the ‘Christian’ vote.

The other half have enough sense to see that he IS a Huckster.

Being a good Christian doesn’t mean you HAVE to suspend every shred of rationality.

LegendHasIt on January 22, 2008 at 3:09 PM

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jummy on January 22, 2008 at 3:10 PM

Christians are by far the largest faction of the republican party..without us you have nothing!

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Pride goeth before the fall.

thirteen28 on January 22, 2008 at 3:10 PM

Go ahead jerk @%F kick the Christians out of the republican party..you know what you’ll be left with???

Probably about 1 million people. You going to win any elections with a 1 million member party? No.. never again.

Christians are by far the largest faction of the republican party..without us you have nothing!

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:05 PM

Just like the Huckster, your true Christian character is showing through. Very brotherly of you to mask the curse words with goofy characters.

And if your brain hadn’t been surgically removed by your dogma, you might notice that I have no interest in kicking Christians out of the party. I like the alliance we forged together. It’s you and your lying socialist demagogue of a presidential candidate that’s threatening to break up the party.

peski on January 22, 2008 at 3:10 PM

I refuse to give this country over to Hillary, Obama, or HuckaGibot just because of a stubborn desire to make a moot point.

csdeven on January 22, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Right. And while all those folks who hold every conservative principle so dear are smugly sitting home for the next 4 years, Hillary or Obama will be stacking the Supreme Court with liberal justices whose terms will effect us for 20 years.

It won’t matter if a true, pure Conservative emerges for 12′. The damage will be done.

BacaDog on January 22, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Didn’t Fox News have Fred at the roundtable discussion while deliberately un-inviting Ron Paul?

Oh, the irony.

fossten on January 22, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Oh well…now I’ll be trying to decide between Mitt or Rudy. I am (was) a Fredhead, but I guess not so eager that I early voted here in Tennessee. I had a feeling this might happen. I hope not too many people voted early.

Linlou on January 22, 2008 at 3:11 PM

though i guess we’ll be talking about giuliani’s unstopppable viability for the next week though.

jummy on January 22, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Christians are by far the largest faction of the republican party..without us you have nothing!

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:05 PM

You’re not the at-large Christian of the Republican Party. Romney has thus far won more delegates than Huckabee, so obviously somewhere along the line there were Christians willing to vote for a Mormon. He didn’t get all of his delegates in Nevada.

amerpundit on January 22, 2008 at 3:12 PM

And Huckster has only been getting about half the ‘Christian’ vote.

Yep. Mitt pulled more then he in Michigan.

Spirit of 1776 on January 22, 2008 at 3:12 PM

And Huckster has only been getting about half the ‘Christian’ vote.

Yep. Mitt pulled more then he in Michigan.

Spirit of 1776 on January 22, 2008 at 3:12 PM

Yes, a bright spot in the clouds.

peski on January 22, 2008 at 3:12 PM

thirteen28 on January 22, 2008 at 3:10 PM

seconded.

jummy on January 22, 2008 at 3:13 PM

Mitt’s mormonism wouldn’t prevent from voting for him.
Now, if he were a priapist…

eLarson on January 22, 2008 at 3:13 PM

R.I.P Conservatism. I will miss you…

serenity on January 22, 2008 at 3:16 PM

If the members of the GOP party identify with the RINO politics of Rudy, Mitt, John, and Huck, then finally…Goodbye GOP! Your party has sucked for a long time and this is the last straw.

When the time rolls around, I’ll still write in Fred just to spite you RINO supporters all.

AZCON on January 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Now, if he were a priapist…

eLarson on January 22, 2008 at 3:13 PM

What? That would be where you would hang your hat? :)

Tennman on January 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM

The republican party is deeply fractured.

If McShame somehow wins the nomination..we’re pretty much done.

The only way way to keep the party together(if McVain wins) is if McPain nominates Huckabee as VP.

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM

As Bryan pointed out during one of the S.C. primary threads, Gov Huckabee only does well among Evangelicals, which means he will do terrible in other states where they are not so strong, as in N.H.

As far as Sen McCain, he only does well in primaries when Independents and moderates are allowed to participate. When Republicans are only allowed to vote, Mr Romney does well.

Weebork on January 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM

thirteen28 on January 22, 2008 at 3:10 PM

When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

- Proverbs 11:2

MadisonConservative on January 22, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Do Mitt’s supporters encourage Romney to try and convince Fred to be his running mate? Would they want him?

RobTN on January 22, 2008 at 3:18 PM

When the time rolls around, I’ll still write in Fred just to spite you RINO supporters all.

The Clintons appreciate your support.

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Broker1, I’m with you…

ricer1 on January 22, 2008 at 3:19 PM

i hope this does something to kill the nihtmare scenario of mccain/huckabee 2008

its vintage duh on January 22, 2008 at 3:20 PM

The Clintons appreciate your support.
Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Although if Huckabee gets the nomination, I might be forced to join the sit-in.

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 3:20 PM

My spreadsheet just crashed and I forgot to save it.

Congratulations, Allah.

Nineball on January 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM

I’ve been behind Mitt since day one and I would have to say that I don’t even think I would want Fred as a VP. We need a VP who isn’t wishy washy about what he wants to do.
calirighty on January 22, 2008 at 3:00 PM

And this moment of unintentional comedy brought to you by a supporter of Flip Flop Mitt, the wishiest, washiest candidate in recent memory.

Hollowpoint on January 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM

*bursts into tears*

emmaline1138 on January 22, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Like most things it’s not necessarily what you think. I plan on tactfully pointing out some of the campaign’s flaws–probably including my faults–in the future.

[Disclaimer: I used to work for Friends of Fred Thompson.]

seanhackbarth on January 22, 2008 at 3:22 PM

Congratulations, Allah.

Fine, if you guys want to play this game I’ll play along with you. Thanks! Thanks a lot!

Allahpundit on January 22, 2008 at 3:22 PM

When the time rolls around, I’ll still write in Fred just to spite you RINO supporters all.

AZCON on January 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Yeah. We have known that for months.

AZCon sez: Spite, meet my nose.

csdeven on January 22, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Let me get this straight. You’ve spent the past how many days insulting Thompson supporters, exhibiting bad form and the lack of any general discipline.

Now that Thompson’s out, you want them to vote for your guy? You’re courting the same ignoramouses you spent all your free time berating?

Darksean on January 22, 2008 at 3:06 PM

Call it tough love. The Fredheads were delusional. They got those spiral thingies in their eyes every time Fred cleared his throat and broke out that Southern drawl. Now that Fred is dead, maybe some of them will snap out of the hypnotic spell and take a wiff of reality.

The Fredheads do not want McCain. That is priority one. They’ll take Mitt before Rudy, but only by a small margin. However stopping McCain is priority one. So, if Rudy wins FL, Rudy resurges and McCain, Rudy and Mitt live to fight it out on 2/5. This bodes well for Mitt, because though McCain and Rudy are very different they seem to be fishing in the same waterhole of voters. McCain and Rudy will split on 2/5, and Mitt has a better chance of prevailing, plus Rudy might pull a miracles and that would not be too bad — all thing considered. However, if Mitt wins FL, Rudy will be out of the race and most of his support will go to McCain. So, if Mitt wins FL it is bad for Mitt and good for McCain. Mitt will win the 57 FL delegates but he will loose on 2/5. McCain will take NY, NJ, CA — all the big delegate rich states that might otherwise had been split between McCain and Rudy.

If you hate McCain, you want Rudy to win FL. Rationalize it anyway you want, but Fred is dead and McCain must be stopped.

tommylotto on January 22, 2008 at 3:23 PM

The only way way to keep the party together(if McVain wins) is if McPain nominates Huckabee as VP.

How so? Mac is pro-life, so is Huck so both get social con cred. Huck brings nothing else really to the table. That’s not an insult, just fact.

Spirit of 1776 on January 22, 2008 at 3:24 PM

The alternative, that Bush killed the Reagan coalition dead and left Thompson types inviable no matter how efficiently their machines might run, is simply too terrible to contemplate.

It may be too terrible for some to contemplate but it is true in spades.

Bush’s Ten Plagues:

First Plague: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq.

Second Plague: Propagating the Islam is a great religion of peace and American troops must die for them doctrine.

Third Plague: Putting Chertoff and Myers and other incompetents in charge of our security.

Fourth Plague: The Bush/McCain/Graham/Kyl/Kennedy axis of weasels.

Fifth Plague: Stabbing the working men and women of America in the back.

Sixth Plague: Selling the Unites States of America out to
agri-business, the Chamber of Commerce and other plantation owners.

Seventh Plague: Burdening Americans with massive amounts of imported crime, drugs and welfare dependents from a foreign country.

Eighth Plague: Trying to legalize and institutionalize serfdom in the nation of Abraham Lincoln.

Ninth Plague: Aiding, abetting and facilitating the ruling class in Mexico to ethnically cleanse much of their lower class.

Tenth Plague: Trying to destroy the party and coalition that Ronald Reagan build.

To be continued as it appears to be a work in progress. There may end up being more than Ten Plagues as El Presidente Arbusto still has 19 12 more months as Commander Guy to go.

MB4 on January 22, 2008 at 3:24 PM

When we look at what has gone on in the political parties for the last 20 years, there has been a movement from the principles that made this country great.

I remember several years ago, at the Democratic convention where a governor was not allowed to speak because he believed in conservative principles.

The between 1992 to 2004, the Democratic party went from a place where Zell Miller gave the keynote at the Democratic convention to giving the keynote at the GOP convention because his party had left the conservative principles behind.

I fear that in the Republican party we are not far off. Someone mentioned about the GOP becoming more like the Christian Democratic Party in Germany and other EU states conservative parties that are triangulating the ideas of the liberals and making them part of their party.

With the defeat of the conservative principles that the GOP was founded on that Fred Thompson stood for, makes you wonder how long pro-life and pro-legal immigration will still be part of the party platform?

Or how long people like him, or George Allen or Phyllis Schafly are still accepted in this party of Lincoln and Reagan?

I think for this year, we can still hope for the best but prepare for the worst, but maybe next time around, it may be time for a separation from the party to a new Conservative Party that stands for the principles that made this nation great and not the ideas of the MSM and their comrades.

ConservativePartyNow on January 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM

The Clintons appreciate your support.

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 3:18 PM

The Clintons are getting the support of all the RINO’s out there. Thanks to them no one can tell the difference between the two parties. At least Bill will provide some entertaining fiddling while Rome burns.

I have ZERO guilt in giving Fred my vote in November. ZERO

ihasurnominashun on January 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM

SECOND LOOK AT PLAYING ALONG!

csdeven on January 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM

The Fredheads were delusional. They got those spiral thingies in their eyes every time Fred cleared his throat and broke out that Southern drawl. Now that Fred is dead, maybe some of them will snap out of the hypnotic spell and take a wiff of reality.

tommylotto on January 22, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Now, aren’t you a lawyer? Aren’t you supposed to be able to convince a judge or jury to side with you?

If this is your normal tactic, insulting the intelligence of your audience, you must be one terrible lawyer.

MadisonConservative on January 22, 2008 at 3:26 PM

McCain is making a lot of announcements today

bnelson44 on January 22, 2008 at 3:27 PM

I’m glad I didn’t blow my money on Fred like I wanted to.
Um.. go Mitt.

Hendo on January 22, 2008 at 3:27 PM

McCain is making a lot of announcements today

bnelson44 on January 22, 2008 at 3:27 PM

Hopefully Mccain is making the same announcement that Fred is.

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Sorry, Fredheads…this does stink and I empathize with you.

Now, on to Mitt! Seriously, McShamnesty has stabbed us all in the back many times. The Mitt-hate is all about SUSPICION that he will stab us in the back like W and McCain did. But give me an example, a concrete example of ONCE when Mitt said he would do one thing, THEN did the oppositte.

He grew up, he changed his mind, he realized his youthful leanings toward liberal causes were wrong, and now he’s on the RIGHT PATH. We should support him on that path.

JustTruth101 on January 22, 2008 at 3:28 PM

If you hate McCain, you want Rudy to win FL. Rationalize it anyway you want, but Fred is dead and McCain must be stopped.

tommylotto on January 22, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Vote for one open amnesty supporter to prevent another amnesty supporter from getting elected? No thanks- not when he’s also a gun-grabbing, cronyist, authoritarian with the morals of a jackal in heat.

Hollowpoint on January 22, 2008 at 3:29 PM

From McCain’s statement on rate cuts:

Financial market events raise the urgency of cutting taxes and pro-growth policies in the United States…

And yet he voted against tax cuts. Shameless.

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 3:29 PM

When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

- Proverbs 11:2

MadisonConservative on January 22, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Admittedly, I’m not too up on biblical verse … but I do think you got the point ;)

thirteen28 on January 22, 2008 at 3:29 PM

I think for this year, we can still hope for the best but prepare for the worst, but maybe next time around, it may be time for a separation from the party to a new Conservative Party that stands for the principles that made this nation great and not the ideas of the MSM and their comrades.

ConservativePartyNow on January 22, 2008 at 3:25 PM

I’m ready to have this conversation.

RushBaby on January 22, 2008 at 3:30 PM

…Fred can claim a moral victory in having dispatched the demagogue.

And that’s worth some gratitude.

Spirit of 1776 on January 22, 2008 at 3:30 PM

Fred,
You blew it from the start with a tentative entrance. If you ever try it again, don’t stick your pinkie in to test the water, do a Van Halen – JUMP!

whitetop on January 22, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Sunk cost…

Vizzini on January 22, 2008 at 3:31 PM

This is what florida primary will look like:

Huckabee 47%

Mccain 33%

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Wanna bet?

Onager on January 22, 2008 at 3:31 PM

I’m glad I didn’t blow my money on Fred like I wanted to.

Hendo on January 22, 2008 at 3:27 PM

Tell me about it..I wasted $2,300 on that lazy fraud..and $2,300 on the cross dresser early on.

I want my money back.

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Hopefully Mccain is making the same announcement that Fred is.

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:28 PM

So is Huck pulling out of Florida?

bnelson44 on January 22, 2008 at 3:32 PM

thirteen28 on January 22, 2008 at 3:29 PM

Twas just covering fire, bro.

MadisonConservative on January 22, 2008 at 3:32 PM

new Conservative Party

Yes. Start organizing 11/05/08. Maybe Newt or Fred would be willing to serve as party chairman.

JustTruth101 on January 22, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Now, aren’t you a lawyer? Aren’t you supposed to be able to convince a judge or jury to side with you?

If this is your normal tactic, insulting the intelligence of your audience, you must be one terrible lawyer.

MadisonConservative on January 22, 2008 at 3:26 PM

I can be very persuasive when I try. Other times I’m going for acerbic humor. If you read the entire post. One paragraph was a jab or gloat, but the other paragraph had top notch political analysis with unassailable logic. ;-)

tommylotto on January 22, 2008 at 3:32 PM

I just went back into polical retirment, where I’d been since 1988. Fred was the only thing that brought me out.

Thanks for the try, Fred. The Reagan coalition is indeed dead and this country is headed down the path of the Roman Empire.

At least my family can find asylum in either Asia or Africa, if things continue to fall apart.

michaelo on January 22, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Sunk cost…
Vizzini on January 22, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Yeah, but he’s said recently he still wouldn’t vote for the Bush tax cuts.

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 3:34 PM

There must be a reason (other than polling) that Fred pulled out just two weeks from Florida and super Tuesday combined. After all this time, wouldn’t you think that he would at least give Republicans a chance to vote for him? He hadn’t even heard from 1% of the voters yet. Two months maybe…two weeks and this is some kind of play.

I predict this will give Romney a 10 point lead in Florida. I can’t imagine anyone who would have voted for Fred (me included) would vote for anyone other than Romney at this point. Maybe that was his strategy. If he backs McCain, I may join the Green Party.

orlandocajun on January 22, 2008 at 3:34 PM

Christians are by far the largest faction of the republican party..without us you have nothing!

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 3:05 PM

I try to live my life by Christian principles, but I don’t let it dictate my politics. yeah the closer a candidate is to the 10 Commandments the better I like them, but if like Huckabee, they try to use them as a shield to hide behind to deflect attention away from their acts then they are neither Christian nor honorable. Just because I don’t grace the doorway of some building every Sunday doesn’t make me less of a decent person then those avoved Evangelicals. In fact it was a couple of guys posing as evangelicals who ripped off the Marine widow that was talked about yesterday.
If I want to live in a theocracy I will move to the Middle East.
As for the constant bashing of Romney because of his Mormonism, just from where I sit there have been a helluva lot more Mormons who have done good things and lived clean lives then a lot of the so called evangelicals. Yo say Mormon to me and I think Osmonds. So save all the religious chest thumping for your Wednesday night bible study.

Just A Grunt on January 22, 2008 at 3:35 PM

Other times I’m going for acerbic humor. If you read the entire post. One paragraph was a jab or gloat, but the other paragraph had top notch political analysis with unassailable logic. ;-)

tommylotto on January 22, 2008 at 3:32 PM

Considering your past prolificacy for smearing Fred’s supporters, I’m going to summarize for you:

It was just satire.

tommylotto on January 22, 2008 at 3:32 PM

MadisonConservative on January 22, 2008 at 3:35 PM

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