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Audio: Laura Ingraham slams McCain on the Wisconsin Right to Life case

posted at 9:10 pm on January 22, 2008 by Bryan
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Let’s just say that Laura Ingraham and Michael Medved don’t see eye to eye on John McCain’s claim to be a conservative. Laura tees off on a topic that NRO’s Andrew McCarthy hit the other day: McCain’s siding against a pro-life group on a campaign speech issue. It was Wisconsin Right to Life, taking on McCain-Feingold. McCain claims a solid pro-life record, but when push came to shove he opted to use his anti-free speech law to muzzle a pro-life group. McCain also claims he’ll appoint conservative judges, but–

[T]he blunt fact is that such judges would be innately hostile to the “living constitution” — meaning they would be suspicious not only of Roe v. Wade but of schemes like campaign finance reform, a signature McCain issue. It is not for nothing that Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito were in the majority ruling against McCain’s side in the Wisconsin Right to Life case last term.

McCain went 0-3 in that one case, against freedom of speech, against right to life and against the two conservatives President Bush has appointed to the SCOTUS. McCain didn’t have to file an amicus brief in this case. He chose to, making himself a partisan in it. This is a conservative?

The problem with McCain goes deeper than what he says about taxes and what he says today about immigration that contradicts what he said days or weeks ago. It’s about the battles McCain chooses to fight and the enemies he chooses to make. McCain consistently chooses the wrong battles and makes enemies out of the very people he now expects to carry him to the White House.

(h/t Laura Ingraham)


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Whatev. Hasn’t she heard? No one cares what talk radio says anymore.

BJ* on January 22, 2008 at 9:13 PM

Holy cow! Laura Ingraham looks hot in that photo.

McCain on the other hand…I just wish he would go away and leave our party.

CABE on January 22, 2008 at 9:14 PM

People need to show up at McVain rallies and chant:

GIVE US OUR $50 LETTUCE JOBS, JOHNNY BOY!

profitsbeard on January 22, 2008 at 9:18 PM

THe difference is Medved supported the McCain Bill and he is the BIGGEST shill For GOP.
thats all if its good for the party hes for it.
SO he supports McCain because he would be a win for the GOP.
Laura As always has the argument down as the good lawyer (the non-practising kind LOL)she is.

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 22, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Laura is spot on and my admiration for her grows daily. McCain is an abomination against the conservative philosophy espoused by Ronaldus Magnus. He couldn’t carry Ron’s jockstrap.

Charles Martel on January 22, 2008 at 9:18 PM

Nice job, Laura. “No understanding of the 1st Amendment of the Constitution!” Right-on.

Btw, that picture looks like she is telling a fishing story (this big!).

Spirit of 1776 on January 22, 2008 at 9:19 PM

With all due respect, McCain-Feingold is the law on the books. If WRtoL was violating it, what would prefer law enforcement do, let alone our elected officials?

Vizzini on January 22, 2008 at 9:21 PM

Holy cow! Laura Ingraham looks hot in that photo.

What you see is what you get. LI is hot! McCain, not so much.

AUINSC on January 22, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Vizzini on January 22, 2008 at 9:21 PM

Right, that’s part of why it has to be challenged so that it could go before the Supremes.

Spirit of 1776 on January 22, 2008 at 9:24 PM

Wow that was a very powerful argument. But I’m already of the belief that McCain is a low-rent crap weasel.

Zorro on January 22, 2008 at 9:28 PM

Laura’s a babe. McCain’s a boob.

whitetop on January 22, 2008 at 9:29 PM

It’s troubling ain’t it!

canopfor on January 22, 2008 at 9:31 PM

I think the world of Medved but I gotto say ay to go Laura.

ORrighty on January 22, 2008 at 9:31 PM

I hope this guy isn’t the nominee. He made it difficult for a pro-life group to spread the truth about abortion. This is a conservative?

If he’s the nominee, I’m going to have a very hard time voting for him.

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Once a baby killer and gun grabber, always a baby killer and gun grabber!

flytier on January 22, 2008 at 9:35 PM

If he’s the nominee, I’m going to have a very hard time voting for him.

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Remember, it’s not about us, it’s about the country. Faced with a choice between a 70% crappy candidate, a 60% crappy candidate, and a 50% crappy candidate, I’ll charge into that voting booth and pull the lever for the 50% crappy candidate. So should we all.

Big S on January 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Do you think a McCain president (shudder) would have a litmus test on McCain/Fiengold before nomination.

I’m thinking yes!

conservnut on January 22, 2008 at 9:41 PM

For all you Spurs city readers, to listen to Laura, tune your ole radio to 930 AM at 8:00-11:00 in the morning.

RushBaby, a prominent HotAir commenter didn’t even know this… couldn’t believe it.

Mcguyver on January 22, 2008 at 9:43 PM

@ flytier on January 22, 2008 at 9:35 PM

I understand the gun grabber part, but seriously, why is it anyones business who has an abortion? If you dont like it, dont have one. If you think everyone who has one is going to hell, let them go to hell. As long as the government isn’t funding it at all, and it is in no way harming yourself or your family, i dont see the issue.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 9:43 PM

I.will.not.vote.for.McCain.

MCPO Airdale on January 22, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Remember, it’s not about us, it’s about the country. Faced with a choice between a 70% crappy candidate, a 60% crappy candidate, and a 50% crappy candidate, I’ll charge into that voting booth and pull the lever for the 50% crappy candidate. So should we all.

Oh, I agree, but I’m going to feel extremely dirty after voting if McCain is the nominee.

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 9:45 PM

As long as the government isn’t funding it at all mandating that it is a constitutional right, and it is in no way harming yourself or your family, i dont see the issue.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Fixed that for ya.

conservnut on January 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM

I think the world of Medved

ORrighty on January 22, 2008 at 9:31 PM

Doesn’t take much brain to think that.

Medved regularly calls everyone that doesn’t agree with him any name under the sun that the FCC allows without getting fined.
You should be embarrassed to voice your support of Medved.
But then, there are sure some strange people in here.

Mcguyver on January 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM

We need to make a John McCain is a douchebag website.

CABE on January 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Wow, and to think we just gave up Fred for this scumbag.

Sir Andrew on January 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Go Laura!

rockhauler on January 22, 2008 at 9:48 PM

@ conservnut on January 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM

No need to fix, I agree with that point as well. If anything its a right given to the states to decide.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 9:49 PM

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 9:43 PM

It’s because if you don’t respect life, you don’t respect the rights that we have as human beings. That spreads from the life, to liberty, to the pursuit of happiness.

flytier on January 22, 2008 at 9:50 PM

@ CABE on January 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM

I think this one will suffice for that purpose.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 9:50 PM

Remember, it’s not about us, it’s about the country. Faced with a choice between a 70% crappy candidate, a 60% crappy candidate, and a 50% crappy candidate, I’ll charge into that voting booth and pull the lever for the 50% crappy candidate. So should we all.

Big S on January 22, 2008 at 9:40 PM

You still dont get it. At least to us, he is around 2%. Not 50%.

Not strong on the WOT, would close GITMO and give terrorists attorneys - Liberal Stance

Would not elect the right judges that could overturn his McCain Feingold - Liberal Stance

Open Borders - Liberal Stance

Voted against tax cuts - Liberal stance

Let a friggin democrat take credit for all of that. Do you get it NOW why we are going to stay home if this guy gets nominated?

PS. Please dont say “But he said he has come around on these issues”. LYING yet ANOTHER liberal stance.

broker1 on January 22, 2008 at 9:52 PM

We need to make a John McCain is a douchebag website.

CABE on January 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Done

Deety on January 22, 2008 at 9:53 PM

McCain is a low-rent crap weasel.

Zorro on January 22, 2008 at 9:28 PM

“…low rent crap weasel”. Perfect.

Zorro, may I use this as a signature line?

uncivilized on January 22, 2008 at 9:55 PM

That’s why I love Laura.

McCain = Pwned

Hawkins1701 on January 22, 2008 at 9:56 PM

I.will.not.vote.for.McCain.

MCPO Airdale on January 22, 2008 at 9:44 PM

I’m torn, MCPO.

On the one hand, I’ve been preaching that anyone who stays home to protest vote the lack of a true conservative is making a big mistake. Mainly due to the risk of Obama or Hillary having the ability to nominate, and possibly have confirmed, liberal justices to the Supreme Court. Far reaching and long lasting problem there.

On the other hand, I’m really having a hard time convincing myself that a vote for McCain would give me any comfort whatsoever that he would protect even one of my conservative positions.

If he were to pick Huck as a running mate, I don’t think I could get drunk enough to vote for them with the hope I wouldn’t remember.

Really, really torn.

BacaDog on January 22, 2008 at 9:58 PM

@ flytier on January 22, 2008 at 9:50 PM

That is such a weak argument. If that were truly a backbone of the reason people are behind abortion, they would DEMAND candidates that help the 4.6 billion super impoverished people in the world, tons of which starve everyday and die from easily preventable diseases. I can fully respect life and understand that the world does not need to have an unwanted child brought into this world which will be given up to an adoption agency and grow up without a family and without a loving household. I am playing devil’s advocate here, abortion is pretty much a non-issue for me, but I am willing to be swayed either way. I am just curious why its SUCH an important issue to people.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:00 PM

We need to make a John McCain is a douchebag website.

CABE on January 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Better

Deety on January 22, 2008 at 10:00 PM

I am just curious why its SUCH an important issue to people.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:00 PM

I think that you are being a bit disingenuous here. It would have to be an important issue to people who sincerely believe that abortion is infanticide.

Deety on January 22, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Someone should explain to Laura that abortion is none of her business.

Oh, sorry. When it comes to abortion and what type of sex someone has, then conservatives are all for the nanny state. I forgot.

Jaynie59 on January 22, 2008 at 10:09 PM

On the issues that matter to me, there’s no difference between McCain, Obama and Hillary. We’re going to lose on taxes, on immigration, and on the economy. If it’s between those, I”ll take Obama. That should put a serious dent into the race industry. So atleast we’ll get that as a sorta-win.

p0s3r on January 22, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Oh, sorry. When it comes to abortion and what type of sex someone has, then conservatives are all for the nanny state. I forgot.

Jaynie59 on January 22, 2008 at 10:09 PM

How would you like your abuse that’s sure to come here at HA?

I mean really, unless you’re a real liberal, that’s out of the left field for sure.

Mcguyver on January 22, 2008 at 10:17 PM

I would love to see Mitt bring this little issue up in the next debate. And watch McCain melt down!

conservnut on January 22, 2008 at 10:17 PM

@ Deety on January 22, 2008 at 10:06 PM

How is that disingenuous? If people think its infanticide, that still doesn’t explain how its any of their business. I, as an atheist, think a LOT of negative things about religion, but its NONE of my business if people want to believe what they believe.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM

This issue has some purchase. I informed an acquaintance of mine who was planning on voting for McCain about this lawsuit, and he changed his vote on the spot.

I hope word gets out that McCain is against the Right to Life movement.

Nessuno on January 22, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Easy to be ok with abortion once you are safe.

EnochCain on January 22, 2008 at 10:21 PM

@ EnochCain on January 22, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Very true. Best argument I have heard yet.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:26 PM

I also will NOT vote For McCain.. that goes for my family, friends, church members, workmates and anyone that will listen to me to do the same. I dont care if he is the last Rino standing after the rest of them are exposed for thier lies and deciet.. Romney will have to make some Promises before I’d give up my place on the couch come Election day. Fred was a Good Man..a decent Man who just wasn’t willing to fulfill everyones need for a fricken circus I guess. Now it really does look like You get the Government You deserve.. Turn off the damn tv and perhaps you could make an informed decision about who is a Conservative and who isnt.. no wonder the Media plays the GOP like a fiddle..Just like Bubba.. “They Can”… AND THEY ARE! and btw.. They Will as long as you listen to them.

LibsREvilDoers on January 22, 2008 at 10:26 PM

Laura Ingraham slams McCain

Laura, when you have to shoot…Shoot! Don’t talk.

Tuco on January 22, 2008 at 10:26 PM

… but its NONE of my business if people want to believe what they believe.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM

OK. I happen to believe abortion is murder. I won’t vote for people who do not. No nuance there. It’s black and white for me.

BacaDog on January 22, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Muyoso @9:43
In case you haven’t heard, Planned Parenthood is subsidised in part by the federal government.

Jordan Yentsch on January 22, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Second look at Laura for president

Mojack420 on January 22, 2008 at 10:29 PM

Okay Ingraham is passionate about the 1st Amendment. How about the 2nd Amendment? Romney will sign the first piece of AWB legislation that would get to his desk just as he did in Massachusetts. Ingraham’s a damn fool to think otherwise, so where’s her outrage on that?

Is this what we have to look forward to for the next few months , a bunch of pundits forgetting how unconservative there candidate is to label all other candidates RINOs? Well guess what, they’re all RINOs. The GOP is getting more pathetic by the minute and that include Ingraham, Coulter, Hewett, etc. etc.

lowandslow on January 22, 2008 at 10:30 PM

And another thing, if anyone thinks Romney’s epiphany on abortion in 2004 didn’t have anything to do with his Presidential aspirations, I got a bridge to sell ya.

lowandslow on January 22, 2008 at 10:36 PM

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:00 PM

I’m all against the government inferring with anything we do, but I am just as opposed to the government helping to fund the killing of children. What’s to stop them from funding the killing of people who they deem not to be useful to society and then deciding that anyone that disagrees with them should be killed. It is a slippery slope, just as outlawing assault rifles, then rifles altogether, then hand guns, then shotguns.
Free speech is the same, if they can ban the Illinois Nazis from marching, they can ban conservatives, atheist or any other group that doesn’t fit their idea of what should be said.

flytier on January 22, 2008 at 10:39 PM

@ Jordan Yentsch on January 22, 2008 at 10:29 PM

I know, and I disagree with that 100%.

@ BacaDog on January 22, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Fair enough. Gotta wonder what your stance on Death penalty and all of the suffering children in Africa and third world countries are then. I already know the argument you are going to pose for the death penalty, and I agree with it partially. BTW I am pro death penalty.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:43 PM

I see a Huckabee endorsement coming.

Maybe Laura has the sense to endorse the only conservative left in the race.

I can’t see her willing to throw all of her pro life principles out the window by endorsing any of the other RINO’s.

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Mark Levin included this in his column from the other day, in which he rakes McCain over the coals on every issue he can lay his hands on:

McCain filed a brief in the Supreme Court with several Democrats against the Wisconsin Right to Life organization challenging its right to run informative ads prior to an election. Wisconsin Right to Life won. Ironically, as best I can tell, this is the most aggressive action he has taken in all his years in Washington on the right-to-life issue, which probably explains why the vast majority of these groups have endorsed other candidates. The point is that McCain’s easy disregard of first principles, in this case political speech, runs deep with many conservatives and is not easily downplayed.

INC on January 22, 2008 at 10:43 PM

@ flytier on January 22, 2008 at 10:39 PM

I dont think the government should have a hand in abortion at all. There should not be a single penny spent on it from the government. I agree with your entire post, entirely.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:44 PM

McCain = Dole

Any questions?

Mojave Mark on January 22, 2008 at 10:44 PM

@ HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 10:43 PM

I can’t see her willing to throw all of her pro life principles out the window by endorsing any of the other RINO’s.

So at least you are willing to admit now that Huckabee is a RINO.

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:45 PM

Iowaandslow.. She is correct in pointing out McCains faults but she would be equally horrified at Romneys’ if she went to Youtube and watched a few of his past gems.. but hey, that was when he was Governor of Massachusetts.. and we all know what one has to “do” to survive politics there, what one might “say” to get elected. I think thats what the GOP call a “Viable candidate, one with Fire in his Belly”

LibsREvilDoers on January 22, 2008 at 10:47 PM

Huckabee is the only conservative with strong pro life positions in the race!

Mccain won’t sign an abortion ban

Rudy is pro abortion

Romney swears to “protect and defend the rights of mothers to choose”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQbeBC_fOI

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Laura - Conservative Lady

Medved - ConMan

EJDolbow on January 22, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Oh, I agree, but I’m going to feel extremely dirty after voting if McCain is the nominee.

Slublog on January 22, 2008 at 9:45 PM

The hurtful part is that you know now, if you end up having to vote for McCain, he’s going to piss you off so many times that you’ll end up wondering if we weren’t better off with a lib Dem.

I wish I knew how to find the quotes here from the McShamnesty imbroglio; people wanted to impeach Bush. I could probably laugh about it now, but I was spitting blood at the time.

Jaibones on January 22, 2008 at 10:52 PM

I see a Huckabee endorsement coming.

Maybe Laura has the sense to endorse the only conservative left in the race.

HaraldHardrada on January 22, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Don’t die, I’ll get you water. Stay there. Don’t move, I’ll get you water.

Tuco on January 22, 2008 at 10:55 PM

The hurtful part is that you know now, if you end up having to vote for McCain, he’s going to piss you off so many times that you’ll end up wondering if we weren’t better off with a lib Dem.

Jaibones on January 22, 2008 at 10:52 PM

The thing is I’d rather have America take a 4 year beating at the hands of a horrible Dem, than a horrible Rep. McCain getting in the office will ruin our party for good. He will be another George Bush, right on a few things, but horribly wrong on so many others.

p0s3r on January 22, 2008 at 10:56 PM

I just remember the taste of bitter rage in my mouth during McShamnesty. It was delicious.

Jaibones on January 22, 2008 at 11:15 PM

By the way, Laura looks pretty spectacular. Say a little prayer of thanks that she is well and healed.

Jaibones on January 22, 2008 at 11:17 PM

muyoso on January 22, 2008 at 10:43 PM

Not sure where you are coming from with the “starving children in Africa” question. How can you equate my being opposed to abortion with an assumption I want children to starve? Weird logic there.

Of course we should do all we can to alleviate starvation. We should do all we can to protect all innocent children. Including those in the womb.

As for the death penalty, I support it. In my view, there are some crimes against mankind so heinous [sp?] we have an obligation to take the most severe actions to punish the guilty and discourage others from performing those acts.

Conceiving a child is not one of them.

BacaDog on January 22, 2008 at 11:18 PM

McCain is a confused liberal. Anti-free speech, pro-amnesty. Completely unable to disagree with a Democrat. Don’t be surprised if he recruits Al Gore for his VP and Hillary wins in a landslide.

Griz on January 22, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Lindsay will cry.

Griz on January 22, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Maverick:

‘An unbranded range animal, especially a calf that has become separated from its mother, traditionally considered the property of the first person who brands it’

John McCain is just a couple of chromosomes short of a Donkey…

DANEgerus on January 22, 2008 at 11:29 PM

Let’s see if we have this right. John McCain has never abandoned his pro-life position, and John McCain, who unlike Mitt Romney, has never campaigned as a pro-choice and pro-gay rights candidate for any office, is the one attacked by Laura Ingraham, not because of a case involving abortion restrictions, but because of a court case involving campaign restrictions where a litigant is a pro-life group. Give me a break.

Phil Byler on January 22, 2008 at 11:34 PM

To Mohave Mark re 10:44 PM post: your intended equivalence of Dole and McCain does not work because the circumstances of the 1996 election and the 2008 election are very different. In the 1996 election, Dole had the unenviable task of running against an incumbent President in Bill Clinton at a time of peace and prosperity and when Bill Clinton’s personal popularity was running high. In contrast, John McCain is shown in the polls as the only Republican who can beat the Democrats in 2008 after the George W. Bush Presidency.

There is, however, an equivalence of Dole and McCain worth noting, even though unintended by you. Both Dole and McCain are war heroes who are genuine patriots. I recommend to everyone to read Rick Atkinson’s second book in his WWII liberation trilogy, “Day of Battle,” about the Sicily and Italian campaigns in 1943 and 1944. The battle in Italy was awful, a sickening slugging match reminescent of WWI. Dole was very badly wounded in the fighting in Italy, so bad that he came back bed ridden and even after recovery had one arm paralyzed for life. Reading “Day of Battle,” you gain appreciation for what service Dole did in WWII. McCain, of course, was a Navy combat aviator who flew jets off and on carriers during the Vietnam War to conduct bombing missions over North Vietnam, which had one of the toughest air defense systems in military history. On the day that McCain was shot down, he took off from a carrier, flew over Hanoi and bombed a power plant there, was shot down by a surface-to-air missle, bailed out but was very badly injured when captured; he thereafter enddured 6 years as a P.O.W. subjected to real torture by sadistic North Vietnames guards.

That Dole and McCain are referred to you, Mohave Mark, in the negative way you intended is really disgusting. True conservatives are patriots who honor such patriots as Dole and McCain.

Phil Byler on January 22, 2008 at 11:50 PM

Give me a break.
Phil Byler on January 22, 2008 at 11:34 PM.

Ain’t that something? I think if Rush or Ingraham would say “ya know, after taking a second look, John Edwards isn’t all that liberal after all.” You would have people parroting the same horseshit within the hour.

lowandslow on January 22, 2008 at 11:54 PM

I say this with all sincerity to all you anti-McCain posters: you are out of touch with reality. Your unjustified hostility to John McCain is leading you to talk about actions that will only help put an anti-military socialist in Hillary Clinton in the Presidency, where she will increase government spending, seek outright amnesty in immigration, pursue appeasement policies in foreign affairs and nominate left wing judges to the federal bench. McCain will do the opposite.

By the way, McCain’s speech Tuesday tonight in Manhattan was about as Reaganesque as you can get; and he was introduced and endorsed by former Senator Alphone D’Amato.

Phil Byler on January 23, 2008 at 12:00 AM

John McCain, who unlike Mitt Romney, has never campaigned as a pro-choice and pro-gay rights candidate for any office

I’m never sure what to make of this criticism of Romney - is it that some people refuse to accept that he has legitimately change his position on this issue? It is certainly reasonable to assume that he was once pro-choice and evolved, no? Has he done or said anything during the course of his campaign that lead you to believe that his evolution is not sincere, or that he will change back?

I ask, because I was once pro-choice,and now am strongly pro-life. I am certain that I will not change back. I think that there are many of us out there that have flipped, but not flopped.

I guess my question is -do you believe that Romney will default back to a pro-choice position?

Priscilla on January 23, 2008 at 12:03 AM

To lowandslow re 11:54 PM post: I agree, and add the points that real conservatives think for themselves and honor military service to the nation and that a lot of posters on this site who think that they are conservative aren’t.

Phil Byler on January 23, 2008 at 12:05 AM

. . .a lot of posters on this site who think that they are conservative aren’t.Phil Byler on January 23, 2008 at 12:05 AM

Ok, I’ll take the bait.

Let’s hear your definition of ‘patriotism’ and ‘conservative’.

You be’n a harvard educated Manhattan lawyer, and me be’n a toothless, knuckle drag’n red necked gear jam’n 18 wheeler drive’n country rube, this could be fun.

rockhauler on January 23, 2008 at 12:15 AM

To Priscilla re 12:03 PM post; no,it is not that I think that Romney should go back to espousing a pro-choice position; it is that I don’t know what Romney really believes. I am very pro-life and hope that the country is moving in that direction. The reason that I point out Romney’s change of position is in appraising Romney as a candidate. When it was convenient for him to be pro-choice and pro-gay rights when running for Governor of Massachusetts, he was stridently pro-choice and pro-gay rights. Now it is seemingly convenient for Romney to be pro-life and pro-marriage. I honestly don’t know if he has changed his position or whether he really has believed one or the other ever. I honestly think that Romney will take whatever posiiton that is convenient.

In contrast, John McCain did not follow what was convenient when he stood up with respect to the Iraq War, first in criticizing tkhe prior light footprint strategy and then in vocally supporting the surge and General Petraeus when Democrats were declaring defeat and most Republicans were either looking for a way out (e.g., Senator Lugar) or looking at their feet (Romney). McCain was right; he visited the troops often; and he stood by them and their mission throughout. As for being pro-life, I don’t doubt that John McCain is pro-life because he has had to defend that position in, for example, New Hampshire Town Hall meetings where it was challenged.

Let me add one other observation. My older son is a U.S. Army First Lieutenant (with Ranger tab) who until last October served as an infantry platoon leader in Iraq; for his service, he earned a Bronze Star and an Army Commendation Medal for Valor for actions under fire. My younger son will be commissioned a U.S. Marines Second Lieutenant in May having already passed dofficer training at Quantico. I cannot help but note and appreciate that John McCain’s sons are contining his familiy tradition of military service to the nation. John McCain is the son and grandson of U.S. Navy Admirals. One of John McCain’s sons is a Lance Corporal in the U.S. Marines serving in Iraq; the other is attending the U.S. Naval Academy. John McCain speaks often of service to the nation. In contrast, Romney’s sons are working in Romney’s campaign, and Romney said that they are serving America by doing so. That did not sit well with me; it smacked of an attitude of “it’s all about me.”

Phil Byler on January 23, 2008 at 12:24 AM

To rockhauler re 12:15 PM post:

“Patriot”: see my posts at 11:50 PM Tuesday and 12:24 AM Wednesday for descriptions of patriotic Americans. Pardon the pride in my sons, but they are to be included as patriots.

“Conservative”: one who believes in: personal responsibility; low taxes; a primary reliance on the private sector and voluntary community organizations for economic and social activity; a society based on law; recognizing that human rights are God-given rights; pro-life; upholding legal institutions while seeking betterment of those institutions; support for the American federalist system of government; a strong military to protect the nation; respect for property rights and traditional marriage; the free enterprise system.

Phil Byler on January 23, 2008 at 12:38 AM

I’m all for Laura but she really got my goat when Obama won Iowa. She sounded like a giddy, gushing schoolgirl.

Domino on January 23, 2008 at 12:42 AM

…and this guy could potentially be our alternative to Hillary or Obama.

Again, someone remind me how socialist it is to not vote this year? Someone tell me how important it is that we vote for WHOEVER opposes the democrats? Someone tell me again how any republican would be better than the democrats?

Forget it. America, if you choose these people to lead you, you deserve them. I refuse to help them take their position from which to do so much damage.

MadisonConservative on January 23, 2008 at 12:44 AM

Wow, and to think we just gave up Fred for this scumbag.

Sir Andrew on January 22, 2008 at 9:46 PM

We didn’t give up jack. Thousands of people said “Well, he’s not going to win, so I might as well not vote for him.”

And guess what. They didn’t. And so he didn’t.

Think maybe they’ll have learned their lesson four years from now?

Nah, me neither.

MadisonConservative on January 23, 2008 at 12:49 AM

Ok, thanks.

I’ll have to investigate HotAir search functions. Apparently you have retained a copy of your previous posts, probably indexed by time, date, and subject.

Conservative: low taxes, and John McCain’s votes for making the Bush tax cuts permanent is . . . ah . . not conservative.

Society based on law: and John McCain’s position of enforcing existing immigration regulations is . . . ah . . not conservative.

The boiler plate I’m gonna ignore. Meanwhile I’ll have to try to find out what your referenced comments said, since you don’t want to repeat it here.

rockhauler on January 23, 2008 at 12:51 AM

John McCain is just a couple of chromosomes short of a Donkey…

That’s funny right there…. I don’t care who y’are!

I agree, by the way.

brewser on January 23, 2008 at 1:01 AM

RE: John McCain’s conservative voting record

Some interesting links:
Project Vote Smart : McCain’s vote on taxes [31 Not Voting]
Hot Air archive of March 19th “McCain’s voting growing ever more liberal”
Americans for tax reform where John McCain said to reporters [off the record] that he would raise taxes as president.
Here is an extensive report on John McCain CongressPedia

hosted by sourcewatch.org. (You can stay up all night doing this stuff. )

rockhauler on January 23, 2008 at 1:33 AM

Hmm I smell a RINO. Look there it is the great white rino, I believe that one is called McLame. Laura is smart and hot, I listen everyday!

HotAirExpert on January 23, 2008 at 1:49 AM

Best, most passionate rant I’ve heard from Laura. I, for one, will NEVER forget what he tried to do with the amnesty bill.

Livefreeordie on January 23, 2008 at 2:45 AM

… I, for one, will NEVER forget what he tried to do with the amnesty bill.

Livefreeordie on January 23, 2008 at 2:45 AM

And which bill he will eagerly sign as POTUS, if he gets the chance.

I give McCain all the credit in the world for his service and sacrifice - I don’t think anyone seriously disagrees. But that does not excuse what he is so fervently trying to do to our country with his immigration bill.

I have a good friend who was a Kiowa pilot in Iraq in 2004 - hard crash landing, broken back, and now recovered. While my friend was risking his life to guard the “front door” against terrorists, Bush and McCain actively sought to undermine our country’s security via the “back door.”

In a recent year, over 140,000 OTM’s were caught crossing the border (maybe 1/3 of the total??) - including this woman. The OTM’s include people from all the terrorist-sponsoring countries. No back door security = no national security.

McCain swears and sneers at those legislators, and citizens like me, who simply want our laws enforced, as his own Arizona is now doing, and very successfully.

His policy is to reward (grant residency and path to citizenship) to law-breakers who have no respect for our laws (immigration, ID theft, fake documentation, etc.) and demand “immigrant rights.” He dishonestly echoes that tired false dichotomy of Bush: “We can’t deport 12 million blah blah THEREFORE we must make them citizens.” To ignore the very successful policy that four states are using - attrition by enforcement - is intellectually dishonest.

McCain’s policy will keep these villages in perpetuity, because his sytem of rewarding illegals is just an enticement for more to risk their lives crossing the desert to settle in more of these villages. His bill will grant permanent residency, after only a 24 hour waiting period for background and health checks, to up to 30 million law breakers. And with that news, we will have another 30 million right behind them, because no fence will be high enough to stop the flood.

No thanks, John. I refuse to accept your anarchy. I vote for law enforcement.

From McCain’s web site:

Recognize the importance of assimilation of our immigrant population, which includes learning English, American history and civics, and respecting the values of a democratic society.

Senator, our values included respect for the law.

fred5678 on January 23, 2008 at 4:41 AM

Laura just keeps getting better! I love it when she shows her passion about an issue– but never lets her argument stray from the facts. She can be tough, but she is fair as well. Good job, Laura. Very good job.

gajaw999 on January 23, 2008 at 4:55 AM

y’all that are complaining about McCain have some good points but what most of you miss is that Romney has a similar trait and that is that he is a person that does not have principles except the promotion of Romney, and what happens with that is that you get the McCain like pandering to the left wing on some issues to get their appreciation.

Example: Romney just lied to the folks in Michigan about bringing back low cost mfg jobs there. That is total BS

georgealbert on January 23, 2008 at 7:36 AM

Senator, our values included respect for the law.

fred5678 on January 23, 2008 at 4:41 AM

Well said, fred5678. Isn’t it interesting how so many “law and order” types (like Bush and McCain) conveniently ignore the likely effect of having tens of millions of brand new legal U.S. residents/citizens who believe (because we’ve taught it to them) that they are free to ignore any U.S. law that stands in the way of something they want? Want to live in the U.S. but don’t have a visa? No problem, just sneak across the border illegally. Want a job in the U.S. but don’t have a green card? No problem, just steal a citizen’s SS number, or make one up. Want welfare benefits you’re not entitled to? No problem, just sign your name to an affidavit full of lies.

How many times have we heard the Left’s lame rationalization that “they’re just trying to provide a better life for themselves and their families”? Can’t the same be said for all sorts of other people who choose to break the law? I’d be willing to bet that your average embezzler, burglar, drug dealer, etc. are also trying to provide a better life for themselves and their families. We don’t accept that excuse for their lawlessness, so why should we accept it for millions of law-breaking foreigners? And what kind of society are we going to have if tens of millions of people believe that they’re free to pick and choose which of our laws they’re going to obey?

AZCoyote on January 23, 2008 at 7:50 AM

God, she’s cute.

Just throwin’ it out there…

Spanglemaker on January 23, 2008 at 9:03 AM

You still dont get it. At least to us, he is around 2%. Not 50%.
broker1 on January 22, 2008 at 9:52 PM

In the context of the original comment, you should say McCain is a 98% crappy candidate and a 2% decent candidate.

csdeven on January 23, 2008 at 9:31 AM

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