What if McCain named Fred as his VP?
posted at 4:03 pm on January 21, 2008 by Allahpundit
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A follow-up to Bryan’s post yesterday. Note well the results of Ruffini’s poll: Fred’s continued presence in the race is killing Romney, especially in Florida where he’s got double digits banked but probably won’t do better than fourth or fifth. If Huckabee was still a threat to win it’d be worth having Thompson around to take votes from him too, but he isn’t so it isn’t. All Huck is now is a stalking horse for McCain, lingering on to bleed social con votes from Mitt; if Fred stays in he’s playing the same part, a ball and chain on Romney’s other ankle in the first primary where Maverick can’t rely on Democrats and independents to push him through. Some Fredheads are fantasizing about him trudging along in hopes of a brokered convention, where he’d end up being the compromise candidate. So a guy who not only couldn’t win a primary but couldn’t do better than third place and the mid-teens even in the south is going to be The Man in November? Sounds like a plan.
The Politico piece linked above speculates that McCain may promise the VP slot to Huckabee to stay in but he’s got enough problems with conservatives that he can’t afford another “centrist” on the ticket. So … how about Fred? I hear that Rich Galen, one of Fred’s advisors, was pitching the idea on Fox News radio this a.m. He’d give McCain instant credibility with the base, especially on immigration, and the Fredheads would thrill to the possibility of McCain retiring after one term, leaving their guy the presumptive nominee in 2012. Problems: (1) Fred said months ago, if I recall correctly, that he didn’t want to be anyone’s VP; (2) McCain may not want a guy on the ticket whose candidacy disappointed so many; (3) given Fred’s reputation as the Republican Mycroft Holmes, you’re guaranteed another eight months of “lazy campaigner” memes from the media.
Let’s see if this is worth Maverick’s while. Vote on it below. Obviously this is based on the assumption that McCain’s going to emerge from Florida as the “moderate” alternative to Mitt. If Rudy beats him there, it’s a three-man race. Interestingly, if Rudy doesn’t beat him there, he’ll probably stagger on to Super Tuesday anyway just because New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut are in play. (Or is it too late?) And if so, to the extent that he’d be pulling moderates from McCain, he’d be a stalking horse himself — for Mitt Romney.
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Chakra Hammer on January 21, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Chakra Hammer, Rudy is my second choice behind Fred!, but he is so far from being The Man that it’s not even funny. He’ll get hammered by the Dems if he wins the GOP nom.
Like a number of others, if my top two don’t win the GOP nod then I’ll likely be leaving the party. I’m a conservative first and a Republican second.
HebrewToYou on January 21, 2008 at 6:50 PM
before I reward them with permanent residency, offer them a pathway to citizenship, and solicit a
fineafter-the-fact bribe of $3000 for entering our country without our permission.“non-citizen” is code for ‘illegal alien’ when you really don’t think they are here illegally. Duh.
fred5678 on January 21, 2008 at 6:51 PM
HebewToYou, ALL of the Republican Candidates can expect to get excessive fire during the General, who can return fire the best and ALSO, make the liberals have to spend money in the expensive media markets of the Blue and Purple States?
I rule out Fred and McCain, nominating them would validate Hillary or Obama’s experience(None of them have REAL Executive Experience)
Chakra Hammer on January 21, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Looks like a Security agenda to me.
Chakra Hammer on January 21, 2008 at 6:56 PM
I’m sticking with Fred. Take it to the bank.
Time for Huck to drop out. He really can’t win, while Fred actually still could with his votes. Same goes for Romney.
Heck, same goes for McCain, too.
Hold out for the brokered convention, Fred!
TexasDan on January 21, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Rudy throwing Arafat out of the Lincoln Center, not allow Castro to come to the event, and returning a 10 million dollar check to a Saudi Prince that suggested that our foreign policy was the root cause for terrorism, should also get him some points.
Chakra Hammer on January 21, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Sorry…I was away for a few hours…
I have no idea why my earlier comment to the general board elicited such a condescending response from you.
Then again, I’m reading your comments on this thread, and you sound like a pretty shrill and bitter guy.
asc85 on January 21, 2008 at 7:02 PM
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No, you will get McCain….I won’t be a Republican any more.
ChrisM on January 21, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Why would McCain want to insult and slander such a nice guy with an offer to join his crashing & burning POTUS bid?
Avoid the b.s. artist, Fred!
profitsbeard on January 21, 2008 at 7:06 PM
Rudy was my first choice before I switched to Fred. Guess he’s still the one I’ll revert to if/when Fred drops out (for, like, a whole week). But, for better or for worse, the members of our party who will absolutely, positively NEVER vote for Rudy have convinced me that he is not in fact electable in the general. I just don’t think he can win without the single issue pro-life voters, and I’m convinced they mean it when they say they won’t vote for him, period. He’s a great candidate–the consummate executive, fiscally conservative, aggressive tax-cutter, and security hawk. But without the hard-core pro-lifers, I don’t think he can pull it out, even with some moderates and blue dogs on board. Just like Huckabee can’t win without hard-core fiscal conservatives like me, Giuliani can’t win without hard-core “evangelicals” (or whatever you want to call them). We must respect the splintered factions of our party at this point to preserve any whisper of a prayer of electability in the general, and our options are shrinking fast.
Truthfully, I’m feeling rather disengaged from the 2008 election at this point. I’m starting to look ahead to try to figure out whom to draft for 2012. Sanford? Pawlenty? Jindal? Palin? I’m starting to research now. Don’t want to wait to see who the RNC scoops out of the bottom of the barrel for us. If we lose in 2008, we’ll need our savior lined up by 2010 to start the run against an incumbent Dem. Pessimistic? Maybe. Realistic? Yeah, probably.
aero on January 21, 2008 at 7:11 PM
That’s because you’re already in bed with Rudy. We know this. You post about it in every thread.
But executive experience isn’t what matters to Democrat voters.
HebrewToYou on January 21, 2008 at 7:14 PM
FreeRepublic:
Fred Thompson’s aides announced he is skipping the next debate and will make an important announcement tomorrow.
Also, Carl Cameron reported that his staff have gone with half-salaries all month….
Not on http://www.foxnews.com yet, but reported 2x in the last 15 minutes….
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1957333/posts
bnelson44 on January 21, 2008 at 7:23 PM
And what would McCain answer to this poll?
profitsbeard on January 21, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Hillary “claims to have more” experience than Obama and it shows in the delegate count.
(Still neither one of them have real experience)
If Republican’s want to validate the non-experience of the dems go ahead.
I’d advise against it though.
Chakra Hammer on January 21, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Fred’s dropping out! Awesome…now we actually have a chance to defeat Mcamnesty.
Mike Huckabee!
HaraldHardrada on January 21, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Probably this one
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=4f0c993c-0669-4011-93c1-097cfdf1e0d4
bnelson44 on January 21, 2008 at 7:26 PM
BTW, Rudy’s married and not gay so..
Don’t place me in bed with him, with the lame innuendos
Chakra Hammer on January 21, 2008 at 7:27 PM
I really wish people would stop telling me to drop my support of my candidate so it can give thier candidate a better chance of winning.
That doesnt impress me at all.
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 7:29 PM
Thread has been pulled as rumor.
bnelson44 on January 21, 2008 at 7:31 PM
I loathe the concept of multiculturalism because it is rejects the concept of assimilation. However, that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
I do not deny that there are cultural differences. However, if I were to say that Asians are “gooks” (like John McCain once did) it would not be unreasonable for people to object. Like it or not, there is a difference between making positive and negative statements, and that distinction is… part of our culture.
My name came about during the Danish cartoon controversy. It has absolutely nothing to do with my nationality.
Buy Danish on January 21, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Fred’s dropping out! Awesome…now we actually have a chance
You mean Mike Dukakis Huckabee? The Democrat’s DREAM.
I will never vote for McCain. Never, ever, ever, never, never, ever!
edgehead on January 21, 2008 at 7:40 PM
I can only say, I wish you all had been so adamant about not voting for idiot RINO’s in 2000.
As for me, I’m baffled. I am a life long Democrat and have never voted Republican. But, unless it’s Huckabee, I plan to vote Republican in November. Mainly because the current crop of Dems have gone so far to the left that I believe it would be a disaster for our country if they came to power. Universal Health Care? Immigration? The WOT? Do you people realize what a crossroads we’re at with this next election? Screw your “true Conservative” crap, this is a critical time for our country. If a you guys represent a majority of Conservatives in this country and how they’ll vote if it’s McCain, we are screwed.
How authentic will you feel with a Dem congress and Dem executive?
SouthernDem on January 21, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Oh, and some of you have alluded to how Democrats like Huckabee. You’re wrong. It doesn’t take a genius to recognize a lying snake.
SouthernDem on January 21, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Most of that is in the line of thinking that Democrats want us to nominate Huckabee not because they like him, but because he will be so easy to trounce in the general.
JustTruth101 on January 21, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Sorry. Not buying it. If McCain were to really try to look more conservative, he’d tap Duncan Hunter. Almost as satisfying to conservatives as Fred, younger, from California, and would be practically a promise to conservatives that Hunter was next in succession.
But would Hunter accept the VP slot? It’s almost like selling your soul…
/sarc
tom on January 21, 2008 at 7:50 PM
That should tell you something about McCain, and its not good.
Gianni on January 21, 2008 at 7:50 PM
You know, Fred may be dropping out. I don’t know. But I don’t buy this “Aides said…” crap. That could be made up and NO ONE could prove otherwise.
I assume everyone knows that Fred’s mother is in the hospital and very ill. Mark Levin said “gravely ill.” Could that be the announcement tomorrow? “Mother is ill so I must skip the debate.” No one knows and to guess is just a guess! And yet when Carl Camoron of FNC says it, it suddenly becomes “NEWS.”
Fox News = MSM.
Oink on January 21, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Huh? Have you never heard that phrase used before?
I’m in bed with Fred!, and I’m comfortable enough with my heterosexuality to admit that. You’re a bit too defensive there, CH. Very peculiar behavior…
Wow. You Huck supporters are naive!
JustTruth101 explains exactly why the Dems would love to see Huck as the GOP nominee. He’s a frickin’ joke to the majority of the country. All the Dems have to do is use Huck’s own Crazy Christian Commentary against him and it’s over.
HebrewToYou on January 21, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Believe what you may but here in los angeles..almost all of the demoncraps I’ve met hate the Hildebeast and trust Huckabee and would vote for him if he opposes her!
HaraldHardrada on January 21, 2008 at 7:58 PM
I didn’t read all of the comments in this thread; are you saying that Igor used a racial slur comparable to “gook”? Could you provide some evidence to support your claim?
FloatingRock on January 21, 2008 at 7:59 PM
And if you can’t provide any evidence, why are you continuing to make false accusations?
FloatingRock on January 21, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Oh, I forgot… Rudy’s people had to take a pay cut too (or so it was reported.) Does that mean Rudy’s dropping out of the race?
The MSM is crooked, biased, and they create their own stories. Because of the first amendment, we can never shut them up, nor do we really want to. But you know, if we quit watching them and giving them ratings, they’ll change their ways. It’s all about ratings and thankfully we still live in a free-market society (at least until January ‘09). Just quit watching them (please.)
I will watch MSM news only IF there is a national emergency or other non-political event. What am I saying? Everything is political…
Oink on January 21, 2008 at 8:07 PM
(1) Fred said months ago, if I recall correctly, that he didn’t want to be anyone’s VP;
No one runs for President and states he’d accept second seat as an option. You run to win. If you lose, then entertain options.
(2) McCain may not want a guy on the ticket whose candidacy disappointed so many;
I am not concerned with a candidacy (aka the politics of running for office), I am concered about the character of the man.
(3) given Fred’s reputation as the Republican Mycroft Holmes, you’re guaranteed another eight months of “lazy campaigner” memes from the media.
We’re guaranteed another 8 months of MSM stupidty no matter who runs. No Republicans could run and we’d still get 8 months of MSM stupidity. The MSM doesn’t factor into my direction.
Montana on January 21, 2008 at 8:09 PM
And having McCain, Huckabee, Rudy, or even Mitt SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN TOO. A plan to end conservativisim or, as RUSH said, at least redefine it in a way that we’ll get a whole lot of liberal policies we’ve been fighting against. YOU CAN POUND SAND ALLAH, because those comments are becoming trite and have nothing to do with any of the principals you espouse around here. Now your complaints during “Shamnesty” or any other issue means nothing, because with a blog comment like this you would promote people voting for a “poll” winner vs. the one who least falls under your compliants. Your complaints about Frist or Lindsey, et al, rings very hollow to me.
Bottom line is, none of the other candidates will win either dude. The same thing that happened in the last election will happen again. When you have your own folks up there calling you racist, and demogoguing along with all the others, and talking down to you telling you how they know better, you ain’t motivated to go out of your way to put them in office, even if they are the better alternative. Unlike you, I’d rather die falling on the sword of my philosophical beliefs, than give in to the incrementalism mantra, and “at least he’s not AS BAD mentality”. I don’t know about the rest of you, but that former concept sits a whole lot better with me than the latter.
Continue your pontifications and blovations Allah because your tripe is as bad as you claim mine is. At least I have principals to back mine. What are yours? He just looks like he has a better shot at winning?? What kind of freaking philosophy is that??? So, go ahead and laugh and mock me. But while you’re doing it, you might wanna look in the mirror, eh dude???
Sultry Beauty on January 21, 2008 at 8:16 PM
Now I’m certain you’re a complete fraud, Harald.
I’ve lived in Los Angeles my entire life. Not a single person I’ve met trusts Huckabee. Not a single person. People in this town are very much put off by people who try to tell others what G-d wants us to do. Los Angelinos see right through that scumbag.
You’re insane.
HebrewToYou on January 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM
“some” fo Rudy’s people chose on their own to not get paid as way to stretch funds, thats what you do when you are willing to work for the best candidate in the race.
Nobody asked them to do it, they did it on their own as a way of showing their loyalty to Rudy.
Chakra Hammer on January 21, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Watch Rudy’s Campaign Bus Raqce around Daytona Race track!
Chakra Hammer on January 21, 2008 at 8:27 PM
Pretty sure someone figured out he was a Huckabee campaign person who registered to try and win over voters. Unfortunately, Hot Air members can actually read, so the plan sorta failed.
emailnuevo on January 21, 2008 at 8:29 PM
For those who post here, they know I am a McCain supporter. Fred Thompson as VP would be fine by me. I think that McCain needs a lawyer as VP who has good horse sense.
Phil Byler on January 21, 2008 at 8:29 PM
Looks like I have to vote for what’s left, not by choice, since McAmnsety(anti-1st amendment jerk) is only still in this because of these self righteous “independents” basking in all their glory of screwing up the republican primaries.,because they can’t make a decision as to what what side their on and of course the whiny (i’ll show them)dems crossing over to vote republican…what’s that about anyway? Hunkapoo has no chance , so, in all good conscience i will not ever, never, ever vote for McAmnesty, Hunkapoo or any other left wing socialist.
I will vote for Mitt, Rudy(holding my breathe) and if either of them are the nominee they seriously look at Mr. Hunter or Mr. Tancredo as a VP. that would make the future look quite bright for conservatives.
oldernslower on January 21, 2008 at 8:47 PM
BTW, that website is NOT representative, of MOST of the party,
that website has banned most all support for Rudy opver 11 months ago, they have allowed a small contigent to stay, as to
make it appear as though it’s balanced.
Make NO Mistake, about 11 months ago TONS of Rudy supports were Banned by the owner of that website, just for supporting Rudy…
Several Websites have since been created, that DO NOT ask for funds, how FR can justify over 1/4 Million dollars a year($271,200) is insane, and NOT Fiscally Conservative.
Chakra Hammer on January 21, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Thank you
oldernslower on January 21, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Why don’t you go start your own site or something? This attack the media/host/other republicans/god/life because God didn’t annoint Fred as the chosen one has gotten as stale as government cheese.
Bradky on January 21, 2008 at 9:03 PM
McCain should not select Fred as VP IF McCain is the nominee.
Bradky on January 21, 2008 at 9:04 PM
TOP TEN REASONS WHY FRED WOULD BE THE PERFECT VEEP FOR McCAIN.
#10)You don’t need to have a lot of Administrative experience.
#9) You don’t really need to over exert yourself.
#8) You can attack McCain’s opponents on his behalf.
#7) You can attend a county fair in Iowa in Gucci’s and a golf cart…no one will care.
#6) You don’t really have to make your mind up that much.
#5) You can meet Wilford Brimley and possibly start selling oatmeal because “it’s the right thing to do.”
#4) You can talk alot about conservatism without actually having a record.
#3) All of your material is scripted for you.
#2) You can spend a lot of time with your wife in the Lincoln bedroom.
…and the #1 reason why McCain would be the perfect VEEP for McCain
#1) You can hire and fire staff between the election and the Inauguration.
HERMES on January 21, 2008 at 9:09 PM
After watching this video I don’t think I can vote for ANY candidate without some very convincing pledges to secure the border.
Browncoatone on January 21, 2008 at 9:10 PM
I’ve lived in Los Angeles my entire life. Not a single person I’ve met trusts Huckabee.
HebrewToYou on January 21, 2008 at 8:22 PM
Well, considering that you are a militant anti-Christian atheist…I’m not surprised that you don’t know any Huckabee supporters.
Rest assured…you are just a tiny portion of the population..thank God!
HaraldHardrada on January 21, 2008 at 9:24 PM
After reading all of these comments…..MY HEAD HURTS!!!!
mpax on January 21, 2008 at 9:26 PM
No, he didn’t make a racial slur like that. I was trying to make a point about the difference between positive and negative stereotypes after you indicated that I was being hypocritical when I agreed with Igor when he said that Asians value education.
But, while he did not make a racial slur, he did compare McCain to Hitler and soon after said this:
I don’t know about you, but I think that is a fairly objectionable comment and there seems to be a trend here which I don’t think flatters conservatives.
Buy Danish on January 21, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Um, I think Allah’s point was that you are dreaming if you think that Fred can win in a brokered convention.
Here, let me help you out with the full quote:
Buy Danish on January 21, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Huck wins the next two elections and is president for a total of 12 years!
HaraldHardrada on January 21, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Amendment XXII Section 1. Read it, then do the math.
jerrytbg on January 21, 2008 at 9:51 PM
I read a thread yesterday asking Fredheads who would they vote for if Fred was to bow out. The LARGE majority of people said Mitt. I know that wasn’t scientific but why isnt anyone involved in these conversations even mentioning Mitt? Don’t get me wrong..I like Fred and I am disappointed. I am now undecided. I live in Arkansas and while Huck is a nice guy. I would prefer not to vote for him in the general election.
mpax on January 21, 2008 at 10:07 PM
McCain’s gettin’ up there in years. We could start out every press conference with “BOO!”
(Actually, couldn’t really wish harm to the man. Just look at how our last presidents have aged in office. For all the ego-tripping, politicking, lust for power, family connections, or megalomania that gets someone into that seat — it ends up doing the reverse of Dorian Gray once you’re in office: every year you spend there seems to age you two; yet your campaign posters stay young to mock you.)
Honestly, though — McCain could gain a huge boost from a Fred! veep slot. All he would have to do is say: “My primary focus is fighting the Jihadist enemy. I’m appointing Fred! to be point man on immigration issues.” Poof! McCain’s sad history of amnesty would be neutralized! Do that a few more dozen times (freedom of speech, gang of 14, tax cuts, “torture” protections for terrorists…) and it could be very appealing.
…if he let Fred! take over every issue where they disagreed.
cthulhu on January 21, 2008 at 10:22 PM
First, I wouldn’t trust McCain to keep his word. Second, if he only takes the lead on issues where he and Fred agree, isn’t he really letting Fred be POTUS? For all the untrue allegations by the unhinged left that Cheney has been pulling the strings during this administration, why would anyone want that to become reality?
Stashiu3 on January 21, 2008 at 10:27 PM
If Fred were to endorse McCain, that would raise Ron Paul in my estimation.
Not saying I would vote for Ron Paul, but at least Ron Paul stands on his principals. He would endorse any Republican who doesn’t hold to his views.
Fred has been going on and on about securing the boarders and not rewarding illegals with amnesty. If he were to endorse McCain, and being the Fred supporter that I am I would only have 3 words for Fred.
F&#* You Fred.
I do think that Hillary will be our next president. Unless Fred pulls some miracle come from behind and get the Republican nom, Hillary will win.
Society has shown over and over that when you claim to be a republican and you govern like a democrat, people will always elect the democrat. You a a lib republican will give, but pure liberals always give more.
Maybe Rush is right, it took a Carter to get a Reagan.
RobertInAustin on January 21, 2008 at 11:14 PM
So it’ll take a Huckabee to get an Obama?
Just kidding.
But anyway, the results of this poll are very disturbing in my eyes. I’d go for ANY of the Republicans over ANY of the Democrats any day. Yes, I’m a conservative first and Republican second, yada yada yada, but would you rather have McCain or Hillary? This should be a no-brainer! If Fred endorsed McCain I can’t say it would make much difference to me, but as the VP? That would be great. As VP of Romney, even better. Brokered convention where Fred wins? Better still.
Anyways, I’m probably changing nobody’s opinion with this comment, but consider it a vent.
OneGyT on January 21, 2008 at 11:33 PM
This will sound really evil, but the only positive I could see coming out of a McCain/Thompson ticket would be McCain eating a bullet.
That SOB joined forces with Kennedy in a pact to screw the conservatives and thus guarantee that the liberals would hold power for centuries with all the illegals who became legal voting for them. I have to think that Kennedy offered that SOB a place in their kingdom.
I work with illegals, I scrape them off the streets when they crash while driving drunk. I see them packing the emergency rooms and getting free healthcare. I remember when I worked in the prison system in California and how much of the prison population they made up.
Again, if Ted Kennedy is smiling, conservatives are in trouble.
http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2007/03/14/mccain-immigrationx.jpg
RobertInAustin on January 21, 2008 at 11:42 PM
It does and shows an astounding lack of maturity.
Bradky on January 21, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Just to be clear, the bullet reference is just voicing a frustration. I have no desire to kill McCain.
I know it is evil, but I haven’t even reached the black depths that the kids at KOS have reached when speaking about Bush and conservatives.
RobertInAustin on January 21, 2008 at 11:49 PM
You took a giant leap in that direction with your comment
Bradky on January 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Tell ya what, go does some ride-outs with you local EMS and you may then understand where the frustration comes from.
RobertInAustin on January 21, 2008 at 11:51 PM
I hope you are seeing a counselor to help manage those feelings.
Bradky on January 21, 2008 at 11:57 PM
I’ve been predicting a J-Mac/Fred ticket for weeks.
AP, to answer your 1-2-3:
1) Every politician plays the “No way I’d do that” game. J-Mac once looked me in the eye & told me he’d never run for Prez.
2) Fred got off the ground too late, & everyone assumed he’d never win, so he never attracted major support. But he has proven to be a good campaigner & debater.
3) Fred has been working his butt off.
jgapinoy on January 22, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Again, unless you deal with it face you face you can continue to live in your perfect little middle earth and pass judgement.
Until you have been in an apartment full of illegals trying to steal your narcotics while you are doing CPR , and then when the person dies you get a notice that you are being sued for by some shyster lawer on behalf of the illegals whom you tried to help, then maybe you won’t see where some of us immature people are coming from.
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Sorry for type-o’s. I am on a 24 and McCain makes me see red and I type to fast.
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 12:02 AM
then maybe you WILL see where some of us immature people are coming from.
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 12:03 AM
It requires a huge leap in logic to see wishing for the death of a politician you don’t like because of the experiences you have had in the job.
Perhaps you should consider changing careers.
Bradky on January 22, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Yeah, its a real leap in logic to think that real life experiences could actually effect your views. Maybe if I just concentrate on how much more my salad would cost if legals picked it, that will help me too relax and feel good that McCain wants to reward them.
Your right, despite all the murders, crashes, law suits etc that they commit, the fact that my lettuce is cheaper than if a legal picked it does help put it all into perspective.
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Illegals threaten closure of emergency rooms
Illegal Aliens Drive Another Hospital To Closure
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 12:24 AM
It sometimes helps to put a face to the issue.
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Second, if he only takes the lead on issues where he and Fred agree, isn’t he really letting Fred be POTUS?
Umm, yeah…so, ok, on a scale of 1 to 10, Fred! has an 8 and McCain a 3…does this compute for you now?
cthulhu on January 22, 2008 at 1:12 AM
What if McCain named Fred as his VP?
I will hurl chunks.
Big time.
Dave R. on January 22, 2008 at 1:18 AM
I am so ticked with this whole situation. I put a lot of faith and dollars in to Fred. This will be a bitter pill to swallow if it pans out the way it’s looking. Years back at my college I started a conservative club because the republicans were not cutting it. Since then I have let things slide and oh have they slid. With GWBush turning out to be such a liberal wank, I was thrilled when I read Fred’s platform. I will hold out a little longer to see if Fred does the RIGHT thing. My faith is shaken, but I hope the repbulican party has some guts left.
HotAirExpert on January 22, 2008 at 1:35 AM
That’s like asking “What if Neil Diamond had Ozzy Osbourne opening for him?”
Black Adam on January 22, 2008 at 6:05 AM
McCain is doing well. Why the hell would he want to screw things up by selecting a lazy, unpopular, pro-choice, career lobbyist, terrorist lawyer for his running mate. It doesn’t seem to make much sense to me. Unless of course, you want to derail Johnny Mac’s campaign, then yes, Freddy would be an excellent choice.
tommylotto on January 22, 2008 at 7:02 AM
tommylotto, to respond to your nonsensical rant:
–Fred has been working his butt off for months
–he’s popular, but he’s not getting votes because no one thinks he can win the nomination
–he’s endorsed by right-to-life groups
–every lawyer has worked with losers here & there
jgapinoy on January 22, 2008 at 7:53 AM
Really? Not according to his campaign staff.
If I’d given money to his campaign I’d be one very annoyed donor.
Buy Danish on January 22, 2008 at 8:16 AM
I did and I’m not.
I knew what I was getting into when I started. Some people have it in there heads that if they donate, that makes them a consultant.
Do I wish he had done things differently? Sure. But it was his run to lose, not mine.
We had an agreement. If he doesn’t tell me how to work a heart attack and I won’t tell him how to run his campaign.
Fred!
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 8:23 AM
You forgot who also dines frequently on puppies and kittens.
Fred!
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 8:24 AM
If I played “gotcha” politics, I’d remind the Fredheads of what I have been saying about Fred since his speech at the Lincoln Club.
Ooooopsies. I think I just did. Sorry.
csdeven on January 22, 2008 at 8:50 AM
McCain has curtailed free political speech. He opposed tax cuts. He opposed efforts to eliminate the filibuster of conservative judges. He proposes a job-killing global warming agenda. He trashes free enterprise like the drug and oil companies.
Now, again, why is this guy better than Hillary?
Win or lose, you are either going to get Hillary, or Hillary in drag.
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 9:02 AM
I think this year for Fred! is going to go down looking a lot like 1976 with Reagan. He’s sowing seeds, no more, no less. He’s getting known and seen. Keep your eyes peeled for him at the convention. If he gives a rousing speech you can be guaranteed he’s following the Reagan model.
otcconan on January 22, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Which is to say, we’ll see him again in four years.
otcconan on January 22, 2008 at 9:11 AM
One can always hope.
I hope what can be said of Reagan can be said if Fred. He was crazy like a fox. That he ran with a group of RINO’s so when the next election comes around, and provided McCain has left anything of the first amendment in place, conservatives will beat down Fred door to get him to run.
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 9:26 AM
Ouch.
RobertInAustin on January 22, 2008 at 9:41 AM
The smartest thing Romney could do right now is to discuss the VP slot with Fred. A Romney/Thompson ticket is unbeatable on the Republican side and most likely in the General election. If Fred teams up with McCainesty, I’ll probably vote for Hillary or not vote at all. Some say that’s the same as voting for the Democrat. I say that if Repubicans want to send a liberal to the White House and shun the conservatives, then there’s no distinction between the parties anymore and I surrender.
orlandocajun on January 22, 2008 at 9:50 AM
That has been a frequent thought for me also. Perhaps even two. Heck, maybe even this year. It isn’t too late for Fred to make a run at a dem seat in Tennessee is it?
csdeven on January 22, 2008 at 10:35 AM
That is more evidence that Fred (Jeri most likely) completely misread the electorate. You have to play the game to get the prise.
csdeven on January 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM
Possibly. Considering the grief Mitt got over having lobbyists advise him, how do you think the media will treat him if he puts a lobbyist on the ticket?
csdeven on January 22, 2008 at 10:40 AM
But which plan? Some are assuming that Fred was in it not to win, but to get VP. Fred was a spoiler in the last primary, allowing his best bud, McCain, to win
Was this to hold open the convention for his best friend McCain? Then Fred could be VP to placate conservatives
They could play good-cop/bad-cop with the electorate
‘No fire in the belly’ has been put on Fred so many times he would have to be a fool to continue, unless he was intentionally pulling back everytime his ratings went too high, to preserve votes for McCain and siphon votes from the others
It would be hard for me as a conservative to continue a personal love affair with McCain with his manipulations to force in amnesty, his insults to the American worker, and his deals with the left. McCain is a bald Kennedy except for the war on terror, and even there he is disingenuous with his push for open borders
I have put Fred on the back shelf now, unless something shakes my distrust
entagor on January 22, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I still wouldn’t vote for him.
LegendHasIt on January 22, 2008 at 2:29 PM
Your welcome.
Who appointed you God of the 1st amendment. You can just read over my comments. Allah’s capable of handling himself. And any blog that is opposed to criticism, when they may very well criticize the very readers that help generate the traffic that keeps the blog alive won’t last very long dude. But thanks for sharing.
My comment was made prior to some very similar comments made by Rush on Jan. 22nd, which leaves me feeling in good company. You obviously didn’t read my comment or others and would make assumptions based on that. It’s about let’s make a deal, and ah-huh my guys better than yours nani-nani, playground chatter. Just as Rush said yesterday, let me saying it in a way you might understand, UNLIKE MOST OF THE MODERATE/LIBERALS INFILTRATING A CONSERVATIVE PARTY INSTEAD OF STAYING WITH THEIR LIBERAL PARTY OR CREATING THEIR OWN MODERATE THIRD PARTY, I’M EXPECTED TO WATER DOWN MY BELIEFS TO THE NEW REPUBLICANS. I DON’T SUPPORT A CANDIDATE, I SUPPORT A POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY. I’M NOT UPSET ABOUT FRED NOT GETTING THE NOD, I’M UPSET THAT CONSERVATIVISM IS NOT GETTING THE NOD. THAT MY PARTY HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER A SEEMS LIKE A WATERED DOWN VERSION OF THE DNC. AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HERE CONSTANTLY COMPLAIN ABOUT WHY THE VOTE FOR THOSE CANDIDATES THAT WILL GIVE THEM EXACTLY THAT…. there was that clear enough for you?
Sultry Beauty on January 23, 2008 at 1:32 PM
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