U.S. to move Petraeus from Iraq to NATO?
posted at 5:56 pm on January 21, 2008 by Allahpundit
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An unhappy prospect, the converse of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” If it’s being fixed, why break it again? The Times guesses this is aimed at guaranteeing Petraeus a hand in the next administration, which jibes with Bush’s strategy of binding his successor in certain important military matters. I wonder, though, if it doesn’t suggest they’re more worried at this point about Afghanistan than Iraq, especially as things get freakier across the border in Pakistan. The Pentagon’s already known to be mulling an “awakening”-type strategy there of flipping tribesmen to fight the resident jihadis. Why not have a guy in charge who’s practiced at it?
But then, what do you lose in Iraq?
General Petraeus “should stay at least through this year,” said Anthony Cordesman, a military specialist at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “We really need military continuity in command during this period in which we can find out whether we can transition from tactical victory to some form of political accommodation.
“We have in Petraeus and Crocker the first effective civil-military partners we have had in this war,” Mr. Cordesman added, referring to Ryan C. Crocker, the United States ambassador in Baghdad. Gen. George W. Casey Jr., General Petraeus’s predecessor, served nearly three years in the top Iraq job before becoming Army chief of staff.
Further to Cordesman’s point, read this Newsweek piece about Petraeus’s outreach to the Mahdi Army. Some of it will make you cringe, like his insistence on referring to Sadr with the honorific “sayyid,” but results are results; uproot Petraeus and who knows how much of the detente you take with him. Meanwhile, the question is whether legitimizing Sadr this way isn’t helping to make him a long-term player in Iraq. The answer, I guess, is that the country needs a breather and anything that can be done to purchase stability at the moment is a good purchase. Iraq’s breather is our breather — but it’s Sadr’s breather too.
U.S. commanders are engaged in talks with the Shiite militants for the first time since 2003. In public statements the Americans are careful to distinguish between the “special groups” trained and funded by Iran—who are accused of the bulk of Shiite attacks on U.S. forces—and the Sadrist mainstream. “We thought that it would be important that we respect [Sadr's] decision to, fairly courageously, declare the ceasefire,” Petraeus said in a recent interview with NEWSWEEK. In some Baghdad neighborhoods, the Americans are even paying Mahdi fighters to help keep the peace. Officially, the Sadrists deny any dialogue with Americans; a senior cleric says talks are a “red line” the movement wouldn’t cross. But Petraeus says he is in regular contact with a “senior Sadr political official.” Some of his ground commanders exchange text messages with counterparts in the Mahdi Army…
The hope is that this kind of bottomup reconciliation will push senior Sadrist leaders toward moderation, too. (A senior Sadr aide, Ahmed Shaybani, was arrested by the Americans and released by Petraeus last spring. Petraeus says he is now the head of the Mahdi Army.) But things could just as well turn out badly. If Sadr achieves the rank of ayatollah, he will be a heavyweight political, as well as religious, authority—and he’ll have a leaner, more loyal militia at his disposal. Ambassador Ryan Crocker has drawn comparisons between Sadr’s movement and Hizbullah, which does not bode well for long-term stability.
Roggio notes a report this weekend of yet another threat by the Sadrists to rescind the ceasefire and turn the Mahdi Army loose again, but this time with some teeth: They’re complaining now of Iraqi forces targeting them, possibly at the government’s behest and possibly at the behest of one of the rival Shiite militias with which many of those troops are allied. I wonder which way that cuts vis-a-vis replacing Petraeus. You don’t want discontinuity at the top if fighting suddenly breaks out but it may be that one of his possible successors, like special ops honcho Stanley McChrystal, might be better for that sort of hot war than a “cold war” counterinsurgency specialist like Petraeus would be. Any thoughts from our military readers?
I leave you with this fascinating read about the other enemy in Iraq. Go figure: “Based on the Sinjar records, U.S. military officials in Iraq said they now think that nine out of 10 suicide bombers have been foreigners, compared with earlier estimates of 75 percent. Similarly, they assess that 90 percent of foreign fighters entering Iraq during the one-year period ending in August came via Syria, a greater proportion than previously believed.” Any guesses where most of those bombers are from?
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I think Petraeus eventually deserves a promotion, but if I were him I’d say no to the UN post.
davenp35 on January 21, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Isnt this a promotion ? Being head of NATO is a big deal and might be fast track for Petraeus. He deserves any accolades we can give him.
heh but might be fun to speculate if McCain picks him for VP ?
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 6:00 PM
The Iraqi forces targeting them are fairly loyal to the government. Sadr’s party removed themselves from the government and the government bloc maintained its plurality and continued to function, effectively ending Sadr’s pull within the executive … thus freeing up al-Maliki and the Minister of Defense to unleash whatever Hell they and the U.S. feel like on the militiamen under the Mahdi banner.
BillINDC on January 21, 2008 at 6:07 PM
Open question to anyone who has served in Iraq:
Would Gen. Petraeus leaving for NATO have a demoralizing effect on the Iraqi people and our troops there?
Thanks in advance for your responses and thank you for your service.
Greenhorn on January 21, 2008 at 6:08 PM
We need him in Iraq. Iraq is a complicated situation that needs Petraeus’ magic wand. Afghanistan is easy. There’s no civil war there. There’s no sabotage of energy and supply lines there. You basically drop bombs on the Taliban. The only problem in Afghanistan is that there aren’t enough troops there. General Petraeus can do a lot of things, but he can’t pull troops out of his butt.
SoulGlo on January 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM
To me the only promotion he should get is the 5th star.
thomashton on January 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM
davenp35…
… NATO is not the UN, but I agree he should turn down any and all U.N. posts should they ever be offered. Heh.
yojimbo30 on January 21, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Which is why NATO is being pushed to do more and Why Petreaus is needed in NATO ?
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 6:10 PM
I’d consider moving him to Afghanistan but why NATO, what the heck? NATO doesn’t want to do jack in Afghanistan so why bother
Defector01 on January 21, 2008 at 6:12 PM
But wouldn’t putting him in charge at NATO (I assume this means SACEUR) give him a chance to get things done with Afghanistan?
Seems like a good choice for his replacement.
Frozen Tex on January 21, 2008 at 6:23 PM
It may be a good move for Petraeus, who knows how much longer we will be able to afford Iraq. The political sites are for the most part surprisingly mum on the world markets. Funny how many people are going to wake up with a Dow most likely 400-500 points lower and that will probably be the starting point.
LevStrauss on January 21, 2008 at 6:23 PM
I think we can expect him to stay in Iraq for another year or so. After that, hell…. he’ll probably be asked to save Afghanistan or save NATO, one of the two. Or both, since I’m pretty sure they’re related.
For a moment “CENTCOM Commander” popped into my head….
John from OPFOR on January 21, 2008 at 6:24 PM
There are news reports that the taliban in Pakistan can field large groups of fighters, and that the tempo of the conflict in Pakistan is increasing. In other words, it’s getting serious in the ‘tribal areas’.
Then there were news reports out of Russia about their new preemptive nuclear strike tactic coupled with their more aggressive military operational stance, and military build up.
Also, the conflict between Hamas/Hezbolla and Israel appears to be increasingly active, plus the recent provocation by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard toward the US Navy.
What does it all mean? Magic eight ball says, “the future is cloudy”.
rockhauler on January 21, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Most of the NATO allies who have been doing a fair share of the fighting, like the Dutch and Canadians are beginning to grumble a bit anyway. The rest of them, like the Germans and Italians, spend their time on break drinking coffee. I wonder if there isn’t going to be a manpower migration of our front line guys from Iraq to Afghanistan, and this is a prep move.
a capella on January 21, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Yeah?
Petraeus doesn’t need credibility, NATO does.
Speakup on January 21, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Heres something to consider in November no matter WHO the nominees of each party are: if the Dems win and keep control of Congress, I bet you a donut that on January 22nd, the Dems recall Gen Dave and haul him in chains in front of Barbara Boxer, Dick Durbin, Maxine Waters and Jihad John Murtha, ably assisted by the ACLU, CAIR and countless NGOs, to face a hurricane of warcrime accusations.
This is very liklely to happen if the Dems win, (less so with Obambi than Hillary) and would never happen if a Republican wins.
Something to chew on if youre one of those thinking of staying home in November because the guy we nominate isn’t 1000% perfect on every issue,(and he wont be, whoever he is).
Mike D. on January 21, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Mike D.,
A sobering, if not chilling thought.
cool breeze on January 21, 2008 at 6:38 PM
I hear you, breeze. thats why no GOP voter is allowed to stay home in Nov. because their favored world view may be insufficiently represented in whoever the nominee is.
maybe that’s too heavy, but its my opin-Yon
Mike D. on January 21, 2008 at 6:43 PM
He should have the opportunity to finish the mission as needed in Iraq.
Canadian Imperialist Running Dog on January 21, 2008 at 6:45 PM
i grok you breeze. thats why, in my opinion…worth 2 cents, no GOP voter can in good conscience stay home in November because their preferred world view is insufficiently represented in whoever the nominee is.
thats going to happen to 1/3 of all GOP voters, anyway,
but staying home is not an option.
Mike D. on January 21, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Mike D.,
If that link is informing us that Mike D. is Michael Yon, let me be the first to say that my hat is off to you, sir.
cool breeze on January 21, 2008 at 6:57 PM
The Iraq billet is a 18 month billet.
That means he is due to rotate in July.
Casey filled it for 30 and was burnout the last year.
That showed in his actions.
Shifting him to NATO gives him a changeup, where he can have family with him, and puts him where he can influence Afghan for the next 36 months (NATO billet is 36mo…)
I suspect they will move him before fall for those reasons…
DJ Elliott on January 21, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Right, Mike D!
We stayed home from the polls and got Pelosi and Reid…
If we stay home again, Waxman will be investigating Petraeus’ success in Iraq. Please spare us of that nightmare as we have had too many nightmares come true already.
Travis1 on January 21, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Cool breeze my friend, I am not Michael Yon.
I am just a Hot Air acolyte and occasional poster,
unfit to hold a boot for Mr. Yon to relieve himself in.
Mike D. on January 21, 2008 at 7:56 PM
I do not think that “Ike” could get much out of nato….the canadians and dutch excluded….and I would hate to see his (petreus) obvious talent wasted…..
robo on January 21, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Shouldn’t there be a “?” after promotion?
Harpoon on January 21, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Drill a dam oil well on our own soil and then bomb Saudi Arabia and Palastine back into the stone age. All middle-east problems solved.
Griz on January 21, 2008 at 8:36 PM
These Saudis man….they’re killing us in Iraq. They represented the majority of the 9-11 hijackers. They torture their own population with their backwards religious law. Why are we friends with them again??????
mattyj86 on January 21, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Somehow I have the cozy feeling that the US will capture or kill Bin Laden in 2008 and Bush haters will have to admit there’s a legacy -a big one- coming from this administration…
Baphomet on January 21, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Petraeus has implmeneted a sucessful strategy. Noreason to think his sucessor should not be able to continue it. It’s not like his sucessor has to figure out a winning strategy in the midst of a worsening crisis and a failed startegy to date. In this case Petraeus’ sucessor just needs to keep it by the book, and don;t hestitate to use the phone if he has a question.
Move Petraeus to NATO, and get the organization righted, and with it the operation in Afghanistan.
paulsur on January 21, 2008 at 10:52 PM
NATO considering pre-emptive nuke!
Greenhorn on January 22, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Officers are not usually known for ‘not changing stuff’ once they take on a new job. Indeed, ‘not changing stuff’ has been widely regarded as a ticket to getting one’s self fired. In fact, I’ve seen it happen.
On the other hand, officer reassignments happen as a matter of course…I don’t claim to know how the Army does it, but it’s unusual for someone to stay in the same billet (especially command positions) for more than a couple of years and often they are limited to a single year. In this case, there would be a good reason to make an exception…but it would be just that, an exception.
James on January 22, 2008 at 7:52 AM
Hmmm, so even Petraeus can’t talk directly to the fat man? That doesn’t seem right.
Enrique on January 22, 2008 at 12:16 PM
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