Open thread: The “let’s talk about ‘change’ for three hours” debate
posted at 7:30 pm on January 21, 2008 by Allahpundit
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8 p.m. ET on CNN. The Messiah’s up big in SC although none of those results account for Hillary’s win in Nevada. Expect much talk of healing tonight to commemorate MLK Day, interspersed with accusations that Bill Clinton’s a liar and Obama’s team is dabbling in voter suppression.
While we wait, here’s the video of BJ dozing in church yesterday during an MLK remembrance. Comments of the “what if a Republican did this?” variety are, as always, encouraged. Fox News’s embed video of Mitt’s travels on MLK Day also comes recommended, but stick with it until the end or else you’ll miss the “bling bling” line. If you’re in the mood for something meatier, Moran can help you out. Don’t read it if you’re depressed, though, as it might send you spiraling.
Sound off below if you’re watching; Bryan and/or I will have video highlights later. My program guide says CNN has cleared three full hours for tonight’s festivities, but if you can’t spare the time, watch this clip instead. You won’t miss anything.
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Wow… stop the War on Terror so we can get faster internets. Brilliant.
askheaves on January 21, 2008 at 9:09 PM
“Bogged down in Irag”
Way to support the troops.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Reminds me of Kerry.
darii on January 21, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Is BHO saying that the war costs too much so we have to end it, then we should take that money and use it for something else?
If we can’t it afford it then we can’t afford it.
He lacks logic.
pappy on January 21, 2008 at 9:10 PM
Still think McCain is as bad as these guys ?
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:10 PM
I’m not a fan of Bush, but I can’t manage to hate him as much as Hitlery does.
MrScribbler on January 21, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Wolfie, “Hillary let me ask you about Iraq, and how soon you will bring the troops home. Everyone out by the end of 2009?”
Hillary, “Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush Bush.”
Wolfie, “OK, thanks Hillary for clearing that up.”
fogw on January 21, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Anyone watching the audience reaction feed on CNN.com
darii on January 21, 2008 at 9:11 PM
On defense? No.
On everything else? Yes.
But, I’ll admit, the former is a bit more important than these chuckleheads on stage want us to believe.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Hillary is a loon,off the rails,US Forces base in Irag,
it’s called intimidation,Iran make our day!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:12 PM
They’re all running against Bush. But he’s not on the ballot. lol
darii on January 21, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Wolf Blitzer – Hey guys, let’s throw away the RuLeZ! It’s wacky, wacky Dem pander time! Love it!
AUINSC on January 21, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Poor Chelsea, she looks just like her parents.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:14 PM
It’s a steel cage match–anything goes! It’ll be wild!
darii on January 21, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Good strategy CNN …. bringing out chairs for the candidates to sit on.
Might keep them from talking out of their a$$e$.
fogw on January 21, 2008 at 9:16 PM
hope those chairs are bolted down… this could get ugly
rosewaning on January 21, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Wow BC is on CNN and he is nuts
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Bill Clinton just said he wants to march in and bitch slap the Vice President
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Still think McCain…
William Amos on January 21,2008 at 9:10PM.
William Amos: well stated,this debate is farce,to
a Liberal it’s a dream coming true,if whoever the
Republican candidate is,I hpoe the United States comes
first rather than I can’t vote for that candidate,not
Republican enough!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:18 PM
I so bummed that Wolf didn’t follow up with Hillary and ask her if her health plan covered illegals, and then followed up w/ her statement that “no woman is illegal”.
Over30 on January 21, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Notice no time limit,”Your time is up”!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Bill Clinton was just giving a speach in Memphis and said he wants to march into the White House and Bitchslap the Vice President
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:19 PM
What a comfy setting.
darii on January 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Is Hillary’s head on a spring?
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM
OK realized the filters are blocking me
Bill Clinton said he wants to march into the White House and slap the vice President in a speach in Memphis
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM
OMG.
How much is Blitzer in the tank for Hillary?
fogw on January 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Ha John Edwards, candidate of “white males.”
Vizzini on January 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM
White males? Owned. Edwards is so irrelevant.
darii on January 21, 2008 at 9:20 PM
You can’t end poverty by giving money away, John.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM
John Edwards – Noticing Poverty!
AUINSC on January 21, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Someone check MLK’s grave for any sounds of spinning.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Now we’re going to have a Poverty contest! Whose got the least?
darii on January 21, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Hillary – Made herself poor so she be relate to the impoverished!
AUINSC on January 21, 2008 at 9:23 PM
All these African American questions,Liberals
simple want this to go on forever!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Hillary: Republicans hate black people.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Hillary: I’ve been trying to end poverty for 35 years.
OMG! Will someone please call her on the carpet about the whole ‘35 years of experience’ thing.
Over30 on January 21, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Solving poverty, Democrat style.
Keep those entitlement programs running.
Good idea Hill, it’s works so well for the last 50 years.
fogw on January 21, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Hillary want to create shared prosperity.
OK, I’ll take some of hers.
pappy on January 21, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Besides ranting and raving like a Markist idiot, what has Edwards done to lift ANYONE out of poverty?
ThePrez on January 21, 2008 at 9:27 PM
ZING !!
fogw on January 21, 2008 at 9:27 PM
WE want to move beyond our divisions, so let’s keep highlighting them until we’re elected.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Barak “Its not about race its about change”
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Oops :)
ThePrez on January 21, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Obama: Republicans hate black people.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:28 PM
I’m intrigued that John Edwards is being used by both of the other candidates as the butt of their jokes…
Vizzini on January 21, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Wolf: blah blah blah?
Candidate: First of all, blah blah. Blah blah blah.
pappy on January 21, 2008 at 9:29 PM
ugh silky stoopid statistics
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:29 PM
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Griz on January 21, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Nobody should be the poorest person in america.
pappy on January 21, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Maybe mom should have thought about how much it actually costs to raise a kid.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:30 PM
hah the Black Bill Clinton
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Is anyone sort of confused how anyone on stage can criticize the media’s “preoccupation of race”… at the Congressional Black Caucus debate?
Vizzini on January 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Obama: President Clinton was not black enough.
Over30 on January 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Great not all White southerners are racist /Barack Obama
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Dancing abilities? Seriously?
Vizzini on January 21, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Man how stupid is this democratic debate ?
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Bubble with thoughts of collective audience at debate …..
*** I’m feeling so good, I never want this debate to end ***
fogw on January 21, 2008 at 9:33 PM
He can dance around the truth
atxcowgirl on January 21, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Frederick Douglas?!
Oh … please.
Great man, but I’m not buying it from Hillary.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Wicked stupid.
pappy on January 21, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Its turned into an Oprah/Dr Phil talk show
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:36 PM
No kidding. Group hug everyone.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Hillary – Dem’s we are the IP!
AUINSC on January 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM
The only injustice regarding Hillary is what she’s doing to that pant suit.
Oh, and Hillary: Republicans hate black people.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Silky – I love the poor because I’m poor (intellectually, morally, emotionally, etc..)
AUINSC on January 21, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I cant watch anymore. Its a bash America because we are too racist not to just take care of people based on their colorby giving them limitless amounts of federal aid.
William Amos on January 21, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Sounds like John Edwards just advocated school vouchers.
askheaves on January 21, 2008 at 9:40 PM
…and the debate grinds to a halt.
Vizzini on January 21, 2008 at 9:41 PM
Yes Hillary,tell the first lady Bill to shut up.
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:41 PM
She want to withstand the Republicans, not work with them. What happened to bi-partisanship?
pappy on January 21, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Bush doesn’t care about America?
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Question about Hill’s voice and about Billy Jeff being too involved w/ her campaign.
Was that one of the top 10 issues that people of SC wanted to hear addressed at the debate.
Gawd! that voice.
Over30 on January 21, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Wow – even the water has a CNN logo on it.
Branding, people. It’s all about branding.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:43 PM
and the debate..
Vizzini on January 21,2008 at 9:41PM
Vizzini:You are correct,a grinding halt it is,
I’m starting to get politicaly drowsey!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:44 PM
ok, i just threw up in my mouth a little, so I gotta go…i’m saturated with this meaningless, destructive crap that all of these guys spew. if we can’t stop these dems from gaining the white house, we’re screwed as a country. i’m not sure we can…gonna be a night of bad dreams for me.
AUINSC on January 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Ooh, intriguing angle by Edwards by evoking McCain…
Vizzini on January 21, 2008 at 9:46 PM
I’m done, too.
I’m not sure which is more disgusting, these candidates promising the same change that’s been promised for 50+ years, or the people who’s lots in life are the same, or worse, after the same 50+ years of those promises.
It boggles the mind.
Republicans may not be the best thing since sliced bread, but most of them aren’t campaigning to be my mommy.
yo on January 21, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Obama:right wing faiths!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:53 PM
So eewww,Hillary just said she wants to take McCain down!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:54 PM
I am going replace the syrup of ipecac in my medicine cabinet w/ a picture of these candidates.
Over30 on January 21, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Did I hear right Hillary said “the children are lobbyists!”
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Three lawyers arguing over who’s the most “honest.” Right.
baldilocks on January 21, 2008 at 9:58 PM
They said it twice now,McCain will be the front runner,
pack up the posters,the bus and head home!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Silky is priceless,pull out of Irag,but then on
the otherhand in his alternate universe the terrorists
need to be hunted down!
The Liberals forget a nano-second after they say it!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Well it started out to be a real snarky debate,then
after the !ss kissing it just snark out!
canopfor on January 21, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Jeez, that debate reminded me of one of the album covers from Frank Zappa: Weasels Rip My Flesh.
Over30 on January 21, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Wow, that “change” video was brilliant, but sadly, I fear it will just encourage the disaffected who say there is no difference between the candidates.
thuja on January 21, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Powers is on O’Reilly again, shilling for the HRC as always. I wonder how much the Clintons are paying her?
fourstringfuror on January 21, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Just about now I think the Dems are getting as dissatisfied with their choices for Prez as the Republicans were…
I still like Bush and that doesn’t mean I don’t think he made some mistakes. I just think he is a person of conviction and doesn’t speak out of both sides of his mouth or whichever way the wind is blowing. So Hillary’s constant attacking of him gets real old and just makes me dislike her all the more.
CCRWM on January 21, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Giuliani: The “Change” Dems Want Is From Your Pocket
Chakra Hammer on January 22, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Hillary proposes broad based programs. Bill to supply the broads.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on January 22, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Hillary proposes broad based programs. Bill to supply the broads.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on January 22, 2008 at 10:18 AM
HAAAA!! HAAA!!!
kcd on January 22, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Let em keep on attacking W…I don’t think they realize yet that he’s not running…He-He-He
kcd on January 22, 2008 at 12:01 PM
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