Fredhead poll Update: A decision coming Tuesday?
posted at 5:18 pm on January 20, 2008 by Bryan
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Patrick Ruffini is running the poll, which asks two questions.
#1. If Fred drops out of the race, who will you support?
#2. If Fred drops out and endorses McCain, what impact will that have on your vote?
Before you Fredheads yell at me about this poll, consider that Fred declared that South Carolina was his stand state and he finished third there. Also consider that at some point, people have to start dropping out of the GOP race, and Fred and Huckabee are probably the most likely major candidates to drop out at this point. Huckabee because South Carolina gave him a loss on what amounted to home turf, and Fred because the evidence of Fredmentum is, sadly, scant. Reality’s teeth are getting sharper by the day.
If I had my druthers, Fred would stay in, we would go to a brokered convention and Fred would end up on the ticket. But my druthers don’t seem to be accounting for much these days.
Update: Carl Cameron says there may be a decision coming Tuesday.
As we have previously reported Fred Thomspon is in Tennessee visiting his 90 plus year old mother who is recovering from an illness
There will be no decisions today as Thompson mulls whether to carry on his bid for the presidency but he is expected to say something definitive tomorrow, probably first thing in the morning.
While no one in the campaign will be surprised if he withdraws they have no idea which way he will go and they do have some money if he should decide to continue.
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This is coming from a Mitt supporter but I do think Fred would have won the nomination if we had a national (no one state got first dibs), closed (sorry, Mac) primary system. This would keep out the little guy but would give us a candidate that best reflects the views of the party base. And at least for now that base is pretty conservative….though I don’t know about the Huckster supporters.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Does it matter? I’ll hold my nose and vote for the Republocrat!!!!
azcop on January 20, 2008 at 9:02 PM
#1- Romney
#2- If he supports McCain, I’ll be glad Fred dropped out of the race. If I have to vote for McCain to vote against Hillary, I’d rather not use a proxy.
petefrt on January 20, 2008 at 9:03 PM
1. Romney
2. I believe Rush said that if you have a choice between two liberals (McCain and the Dem nominee,) you might as well choose the one with the ‘R’ after their name.
Even though McCain is an arrogant, lying, holier-than-thou a##hole, I would vote for any of the Republican candidates rather than for Clinton or Obama. Staying home in protest wouldn’t accomplish a single thing.
Knuckledragger on January 20, 2008 at 9:03 PM
I have a policy of not paying for movies starring actors that call me names…not buyin goods made by folks that show me contempt…and I’m sure not voting for a man that has backstabbed my party at every turn.
I think it’s called consistency.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 9:05 PM
I’ve mentioned this in other threads, but McCain has a vicious temper. Google “McCain, Temper” sometime and read through all the times he has gone nuclear on people. I don’t fault him for this, but he is rather famous for it among the media. And yet they have not made an issue of it. And instead wax poetic about “how scared the dems are of him” and how he is a maverick and on and on.
Perhaps it is a bit conspiritorial of me, but I believe that the MSM want McCain to win the nomination. Because they know that a reporter can corner him on some tough questions and get him to fly off the handle at them. You will then see that clip on every news program night after night until the general election.
They know he is an easy knock off. That’s my guess anyway.
conservnut on January 20, 2008 at 9:05 PM
I’ll stay home if it’s not Fred or John Bolton. And I’ll watch Obama or Hillary take it home. And for four years, I’ll manage. And every time someone I know who voted for them complains about how the country is, I’ll bring up who they voted for, and how in doing so they are responsible for exactly what they are complaining about, and if they want to fix things, talk to me in 2012.
MadisonConservative on January 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM
They told you there was water here?
They told me there was Gold here.
Looks like we may both have been swindled.
Tuco on January 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM
LOL. WILLARD???!! O man. He is toast. “Fred” is kinda stodgy and somewhat dull to the ears, but WILLARD?
OMG, that stupid rat-infested movie from the 70’s has been forever seared – SEARED – into the collective psyche of the American public. And for the younger generations who have never heard of it, you can bet that H-wood and the MSM will make damn sure to ressurect that sorry excuse for a horror flick the second Mittster gets the nod.
No one – NO ONE – is going to vote for a guy who evokes in their minds the image of rats the second they hear his name.
Yup…time for another drink.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM
I second that!
What? We can’t be both?
Browncoatone on January 20, 2008 at 9:07 PM
If Fred drops out,I will start watching Law and Order.
I have never seen one episode,and I’m really surprised
after all this time,not one idiot Liberal referred to Fred
Thompson as an actor.
If Fred endorses McCain,well that means a longer press
conference with McCain,actually I’m kidding,haha.
Seriously though,if Fred backs McCain it shows to me
that Fred is thinking more of the well-being of the Republican party,rallying behind a fellow consevative
for the cause:irragardless of who the Republican nominee is,
it’s still better than a Liberal Democrat in the White House!
canopfor on January 20, 2008 at 9:07 PM
1) Grasp of whose policy? What policy?
2) Fast on his feet is something I couldn’t care less about. I’m not a “youtube voter” looking for a snazzy comeback or witty line. Elect Robin Williams!
3)Looks matter…jeez, not gonna touch that one.
4)I’ll give you that one, although McCain seems a lot more genuine than pro-life & abortion, varmint-shooting fake 2nd Amendment supporter Romney.
5) I don’t think of how good a fundraiser a candidate is when I think about them, he did work at a private equity fund for Pete’s sake.
Well said, although I just don’t think Romney will inspire much hope among voters, and he certainly won’t get the Democrat or Independent vote that the GOP needs in this election.
FLcapitalistthug on January 20, 2008 at 9:08 PM
When I look at you what I always see.
Entelechy on January 20, 2008 at 9:09 PM
Nice sentiment, but I don’t think that is likely. His fundraising numbers would have been higher if he that level of support nationally to outpace the others.
Spirit of 1776 on January 20, 2008 at 9:09 PM
MadisonConservative and CABE, I highly recommend that you read the most recent Saints Alive newsletter. I can’t say it any better than someone who is an authority on (and has experience on both sides of) this issue.
ITookTheRedPill on January 20, 2008 at 9:09 PM
I’m visualizing a large rat helping old ladies celebrate their 102nd birthdays.
Surreal.
PolitiNOOB on January 20, 2008 at 9:11 PM
…and don’t stop near the top…be sure to read the 21 Questions Answered About Mormon Faith.
ITookTheRedPill on January 20, 2008 at 9:12 PM
You didn’t ask for me to convince you to vote for him, you asked how he was electable. How do you know he won’t be able to get the Independent vote?
davenp35 on January 20, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Fred Willard for President!
Big S on January 20, 2008 at 9:13 PM
I wish you were right but I think it works more like this:
I know that Fred is the only guy that can unite us.
Secular conservatives will not vote for Huck
Real conservatives will not vote for McCain
Evangelical conservatives will not vote for Mitt
Every conservative will vote for Fred!
TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Just a hunch, I think Rudy or McCain could expand the demographic voting GOP more than Romney. Again, just a hunch :)
FLcapitalistthug on January 20, 2008 at 9:14 PM
Probably nobody…
Maybe Guiliani. Maybe Romney
McCain & Huckabee can kiss my conservative butt.
msipes on January 20, 2008 at 9:15 PM
Um…yeah…but his real first name is…Willard
*snicker*
And he’s a Mormon. While the former will not necessarily hurt him in Evangelicaland, the latter will act like a downpour of piss on a Rose Bowl parade – unless, of course, you know a foolproof way to convince Elmer Gantry’s extended family that we are voting for a president, not a pastor.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Bryan I don’t agree with you. If Fred hadn’t split the vote Huckabee would have won.
CCRWM on January 20, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Yeah, I remember that being an issue back in 2000 as well…but I kinda like that McCain has a temper. As far as I’m concerned, we need a President these days like that. McCain was my first choice back then too…basically because he can get things done via bipartisanship (and not just talk about it) and I didn’t like the way the GOP totted Dubya out almost 2 years before the election in 2000 as it’s choice. I still think there were “powers that be” in the GOP that pushed McCain out of it, especially after his big win in New Hampshire that year.
I agree that the media now would like to see McCain (or even more so, Huckabee) as the nominee…and probably for the reason you stated. But I also think we’d see McCain handle it better than the past too, knowing he was in the driver’s seat.
I’m still pulling for Fred tho…even though it’s looking more and more like he’s a goner. The party base must have shifted a bit towards the center the last few years, and the true conservatives are written off by the voters.
JetBoy on January 20, 2008 at 9:17 PM
#1 Romney
#2 Shake my head in disgust, especialy after all the fundraising he got from all the Fred Heads Who hate McVain.
My thoughts exactically!
sorry to weigh in so late everybody :)
Had a lot of posts to wade through.
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 20, 2008 at 9:18 PM
That’s not what the exit polls have said.
It will be hard for McCain and Giuliani when their base even refuses to support them. Plus most social cons don’t like either one very much.
davenp35 on January 20, 2008 at 9:18 PM
Only liberal dems think like that. Conservatives and right thinking Americans don’t allow childish word association games rule their lives.
Ya gotta have faith in folks.
csdeven on January 20, 2008 at 9:19 PM
I’m a HUGE fan of Fred. He could have been our savior, but it didn’t happen…and despite all the eternal optimists, it will not happen.
The Republican party is fractured. All I see are people claiming that they won’t vote for this guy or that guy.
The democrats will win.
So, in light of reality, and the fact that there isn’t a conservative running, I’m going to vote for Obama.
In my view, it is better to have an honest man that is wrong about absolutely everything than the the most vile and corrupt person on Earth as president.
Things are so very bad.
Dorvillian on January 20, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Pttthfffffpt….(the sound of wine being spattered on the keyboard as I lose it and laugh the hardest I have laughed all night).
Thanks, Bigs. I needed that.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:19 PM
Got more of them than Huck in Michigan if memory serves.
Spirit of 1776 on January 20, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Hey hey, ya’ll simmer down now!
sim-a-dona
TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 9:20 PM
Fred totally failed to get hardly ANY conservatives to vote for him in the frappin PRIMARIES! He gave up on Iowa, NH, Nevada, and tried to make a stand in SC. Fred has FAILED in EVERY SINGLE STATE.
Jeeze.
csdeven on January 20, 2008 at 9:22 PM
What you see is not always what you think you see.
Entelechy on January 20, 2008 at 9:23 PM
With corrections, a beautifully succinct precis of my earlier post. Well done.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:23 PM
I was curious to know anyone’s thoughts on what the #1 and #2 issues are to all of you. Personally, it’s the war on terror and the economy. My first choice, Fred, has spoken forcefully on both issues. However, Rudy and McCain seem the most willing to mow down our enemies in the Middle East.
I admit McCain sucks for not voting for the Bush tax cuts, but WILL NOT back down to any jihadist or PC-liberal garbage in that respect. And Rudy is probably just as hawkish and light years better when it comes to economic issues.
Thoughts?
FLcapitalistthug on January 20, 2008 at 9:24 PM
#1 The Economy
#2 The War on Terror
#3 Immigration
thats just me…
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 20, 2008 at 9:25 PM
As you will soon discover, B. Hussein Obama is not exactly the virginal Galahad you imagine him to be.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Every religion has strange beliefs:
Catholics and transubstantiation.
Hal Lindsey’s followers (some churches) and the rapture.
Jehovah’s Witnesses and only 144,000 will be saved.
Mormons and the God-head. (3 separate personages instead of the trinity theory).
A Christian is a religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ. All religions are strange. They are faith-based. To say a religion that believes Jesus Christ is the Son of God and Savior of the World isn’t Christian is absurd.
CABE on January 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM
From a link I followed from bnelson44 I found this vote match. Since we are talking about our 2nd choice candidates I think it may be interesting for everyone to answer the questions pertaining to the issues to see who we should vote for. My 1,2, and 3 have always been Mitt, Fred, and Hunter. Interestingly that is exactly how it matched me after answering the questions. Obviously we may weigh some issues more than others but I found it interesting nonetheless. Check it out and see how accurate it is for you. Click the start here to do you own.
lan astaslem on January 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Or is it?
Actually, I suspected y’all were married.
lol
TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Yeah, you like McCain and Giuliani too much. Any Republican nominee will forcefully fight the GWOT.
davenp35 on January 20, 2008 at 9:27 PM
If Fred endorses McCain,well that means a longer press
conference with McCain,actually I’m kidding,haha.
Seriously though,if Fred backs McCain it shows to me
that Fred is thinking more of the well-being of the Republican party,rallying behind a fellow consevative
for the cause:irragardless of who the Republican nominee is,
it’s still better than a Liberal Democrat in the White House!
canopfor on January 20, 2008 at 9:07 PM
If it’s McCain? There won’t won’t be a difference between the two. AMNESTY is one of the reasons why!!
DfDeportation on January 20, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Sure, FL. Here’s thoughts: Hillary Clinton will be the next president of the United States. Assuming we live to see the end of her term of office, I have no doubt but that I’ll have plenty of other thoughts to share.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Tell that to Michigan (Romney won with self described evangelicals with 34%). Let’s not lump all evangelicals into one group of mindless Huckzombies.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 9:28 PM
CABE on January 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM
What part of the Christian church has denounced mormonism as a cult don’t you understand?
HaraldHardrada on January 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM
My problem with Romney is that if he is a real Mormon then he has to believe the non Scriptural things Mormons do and it becomes almost like thinking Tom Cruise would make a good president. I don’t see myself wanting to vote for somebody who could believe the stuff the Mormons do. Hank Hanagraff(sp)on his show the Bible Answer Man did a whole week on Mormonisn and it was truely enlightning. Mormonisn is a false Christian religion founded by a man similar to a L Ron Hubbard IMHO.
Now I guess if he is the nominee he’ll get my vote but as the lesser of two evils…
CCRWM on January 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM
What part of there is no such thing as the monolithic Christian church don’t YOU understand?
davenp35 on January 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM
and TheSitRep believes he’ll have another beer.
TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Heres the bottom line,it’s January,another nine~ten months
to go,G!d forbid anything nasty happens,the Liberal
moonbats have a lot of scores to settle within their own
team,Republican’s this round don’t have a great harvest of candidates,however the Liberal’s are going to have a bloodbath at the DNC convention,unless Obama and Hillary,
and the first lady Bill kiss and make up.Will Hillary who
has said she wanted to be Pres since she was two,play second fiddle to Obama,probably never,while the Republicans
don’t have a great field,the Liberal are basically at war
with each other,there’s still a lot of time till Nov.4!
canopfor on January 20, 2008 at 9:31 PM
I hope Romney at least consults with the Giuliani law firm when pursuing the GWOT.
Funny stuff. If Hillary wins, they will know me as the disgruntled American that’s always drunk at the poker tables in the Bahamas.
FLcapitalistthug on January 20, 2008 at 9:32 PM
We don’t need to play childish word games to make Obama look bad. His policies are reflective of both his good intentions and his inexperience in solving real problems. He is the media darling of the moment and will simmer down and fall back into party line when Hillary is done cleaning up the nomination process.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 9:32 PM
The economy, combined with other domestic issues, will be the issues that decide the election.
I’m not comfortable with the term War on Terror, because it was so devastatingly ill-chosen to describe a tactic when the war is against Political Islam, which happens to be my #1 issue.
Rudy is hawkish enough to satisfy me WRT foreign policy. I do not trust McCain on policies foreign or domestic, because he is in this race to avenge a grudge against the American people, the Republican Party, and President Bush.
RushBaby on January 20, 2008 at 9:33 PM
What “Christian” church are you talking about?
You’re nothing but a bigot. No wonder you’re a Huckabee supporter. It’s people like you that give our party a bad reputation.
CABE on January 20, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Romney’s an attorney himself. He’ll be just fine. LOL
davenp35 on January 20, 2008 at 9:34 PM
When you,type,l!ke,,,this,nobodywill,want,to,read your,comment.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 9:34 PM
I didn’t say it!!!! I didn’t say it!!!!!
But I was sure thinking it!
conservnut on January 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM
My problem with Romney is that if he is a real Mormon… – CCRWM on January 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM
He’s a politician, CC. Just like McCain. Just Like Thompson. Just like any of the others.
Study history. Do you really believe the so-called “wars of religion” fought over the course of centuries in Europe were really, truly, wars of religion? Religion was merely the pretext for these wars. With a handful of exceptions, the monarchs who ruled in Europe over the past millennium and a half were Christian in name only.
Have no fear when it comes to
WillardMitt. He is about as fervent a Mormon as Ted “where’s my scuba gear” Kennedy is a Catholic.NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM
I was just referencing that stupid line he had a while back at one of the debates when he said he would talk to lawyers if the USA was in immediate peril. You could hear groans for miles.
Good point though, Harvard Law School is okay I guess.
FLcapitalistthug on January 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Those 3 items are not mutually exclusive.
In fact they are legs of one issue.
TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 9:36 PM
This round’s on me.
RushBaby on January 20, 2008 at 9:38 PM
I don’t agree. The stranger belief is that God is nothing, a Holy Ghost, and a man all in one.
The single question no Christian can ever answer without loads of obfuscatory BS, is this….
When God leaves his Jesus mode to be in the God mode, what does he do with his Jesus skin suit? Does he hang it in the Holy Closet? AND, most importantly, does he use wire hangers?
csdeven on January 20, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Avenge the American people? Someone is
drinkingfunneling the Kool-Aid tonight…FLcapitalistthug on January 20, 2008 at 9:38 PM
Lighten up. And give up the fantasy about his good intentions. In some respects, this guy is even more dangerous than Hillary.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:39 PM
OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE FROM THE UNIVERSAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH THAT ALL PEOPLE WHO TRULY BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST ADHERE TO:
HaraldHardrada IS EITHER A REALLY HUGE BIGOT/A**HOLE, ALL AROUND MORON, OR JUST SOMEBODY WHO THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUNNY TO WATCH PEOPLE GET ALL PISSED OFF ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS PROBABLY A JOKE.
sorry about the caps lock
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 9:39 PM
False.
RushBaby on January 20, 2008 at 9:39 PM
I’m in for a round!
conservnut on January 20, 2008 at 9:39 PM
CABE on January 20, 2008 at 9:34 PM
whatever.
2.2 billion Christians and their respective churches have denounced mormonism as a cult!
No matter if you consider yourself a Christian(which is between you and God only)….this fact remains.
HaraldHardrada on January 20, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Someone give me an idea for something to photoshop.
link to the pics etc.
TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I meant it’s not strange to me but to others. But mega-mormon dittos to you. Personally I don’t understand why other religions haven’t abandoned the Nicene Creed?
CABE on January 20, 2008 at 9:41 PM
I don’t disagree, but Hillary doesn’t care about the direction the country goes, only her poll numbers. I do sincerely believe, that even though he is very misguided, Barack Obama wants America to succeed.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 9:41 PM
i’d piss on a spark plug right now if it would keep Fred in till teh convention
stlpatriot on January 20, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Now that IS creative. Kudos. :)
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 9:01 PM
ty :)
stlpatriot on January 20, 2008 at 9:41 PM
You got it, conservnut. Whatchu drinkin?
RushBaby on January 20, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Please grow up and stop being absurd. Wire hangars leave creases. The Almighty uses foam-covereed hangars.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:43 PM
Heh. Of course he does.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:44 PM
@ HaraldHardrada on January 20, 2008 at 9:40 PM
Wow, that is a hell of a statistic. I have several christian friends who support Romney for president and like him BECAUSE of his family values that mormonism brings. But, I havent talked to the other 2199999998 christians that you claim to have heard denounce mormonism.
muyoso on January 20, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Bwahahahaha!!!!
If a persons status as a Christian is between him and God, where do you disgusting bigots get the idea you can decide who is a Christian?
What a fool you and your ilk are.
csdeven on January 20, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Bwah ha ah hahhahahhahaah
BEst post of the night!
er… but where di you get your evidence?
1st cloth-rinthians?
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 20, 2008 at 9:45 PM
2.2 billion Christians? That would be 100% (not 99.9) of all Christians everywhere believe The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a cult?
Wow. And the U.N. should control our armed forces….because world opinion matters!
CABE on January 20, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Every religion has strange beliefs:
CABE on January 20,2008 at 9:26PM.
CABE:Your absolutely correct,Gee wiz,I can’t be the only
one who thinks that this feuding between Mormon’s
Christians,Catholics and rest is an accident.
No wonder there is a rift within the Republican
party on religion.
For the last almost eight years there has been a
coordinated effort by the libs,mainly CNN showing
forever non-stop hit peices on religion,these shows
certianly weren’t aimed at godless Democrats,and it
appears to me all that effort is now coming into
fruitation!
canopfor on January 20, 2008 at 9:46 PM
There’s too much money in it.
csdeven on January 20, 2008 at 9:46 PM
No, dear reader, I said
RushBaby on January 20, 2008 at 9:47 PM
Jack Daniels, make it a double.
Good ball game on by the way.
conservnut on January 20, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I have a crazy idea, leave your religion OUT of politics. Vote on secular things issues that are important to the country, IE, foreign policy, the economy, domestic policy, etc.
muyoso on January 20, 2008 at 9:47 PM
I’m talking about whether or not mormonism is accepted by the Church as Christian and it is not.
I don’t have a problem with mormons…I’ve done aq lot of business with mormons and have found them to be,in general, some of the most honest businessmen around.
HaraldHardrada on January 20, 2008 at 9:48 PM
What about it is cultish to you about Mormonism. The whole Joe Smith/Missouri/tablets story? It may seem far fetched to you, but a lot of my atheist friends think a lot of the stories in the Bible are crazy too. It takes a lot faith and personal strength to still believe what you do when a whole bunch of jerks like you are running around telling you that you’re crazy.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Never thought I’d say this, but point to csdeven.
MadisonConservative on January 20, 2008 at 9:49 PM
@ HaraldHardrada on January 20, 2008 at 9:48 PM
No, you said that christians believe it is a cult, not that its NOT christian. Here you are twisting what you said because multiple people made you look ridiculous.
muyoso on January 20, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Oh, he used to until Joan Crawford straightened him out.
csdeven on January 20, 2008 at 9:50 PM
So McCain has a grudge against the American people…ummm, okay.
FLcapitalistthug on January 20, 2008 at 9:50 PM
God Lord Jesus I hate to bite at this troll,
*SIGH*
…but here we Go…
SO please if ya aint Skeerd Tell us what is this “Almighty” church that YOU belong to? Hmmmmm?
and by what authority does it claim to be the only true religion?
Ya got me curious now. Where are you receiving your marching orders?
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 20, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Once again, where is this single office I can go to and speak to the grand poohbah of every Christian on the planet?
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM
This is pretty remarkable irony when you think about it both on the micro and the macro. You are saying that Christianity is a personal issue between a person and God only, and then you interject yourself to judge as a third person someone else’s relationship.
That view, that religion is measured by action and that everyone’s relationship between God and self is personal is precisely Jefferson’s view. The irony is that Christians came to America for freedom of religion and freedom of worship – penned famously by him in Virginia which led to the insistence of it’s inclusion in the Bill of Rights. Somehow you have come full circle to the Anglican view. congrats.
Spirit of 1776 on January 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Nope, just the ones with Conservative principles. He LOVES liberals.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 9:52 PM
where do you disgusting bigots get the idea you can decide who is a Christian?
What a fool you and your ilk are.
csdeven on January 20, 2008 at 9:45 PM
Give me a break! The Christian church gets to decide whether the church claiming to be Christian should be associated with them or not.
Csdeven you’re just a bigot atheist…why don’t you just switch to the democratic party, where Christian haters like you thrive!
HaraldHardrada on January 20, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Please stop speaking for Christians. You’re embarrassing yourself and the rest of us, in the process.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM
There’s a 50/50 chance that you’re correct.
Entelechy on January 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Dude, come on.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM
When you,type,…
Malan89 on January 20,2008 at 9:34PM.
Malan89: I know it’s a bad habbit I picked up,
only been blogging for six months.
canopfor on January 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM
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