Video: McCain says he hasn’t changed his position on immigration
posted at 11:44 pm on January 19, 2008 by Bryan
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Well here ya go folks, carne rojo, rare as it can be. John McCain sponsored McCain-Kennedy, which would have amnestied millions of illegal immigrants without securing the border first. McCain has shifted his immigration stance recently, while lying that he never supported amnesty at all, to acknowledge that the border ought to be secured first.
But somehow, that’s not a change in his position. Ooooook.
The bottom line is that he still supports what McCain-Kennedy would do even though a majority of Americans don’t and even though the base of the party absolutely hated that bill.
Straight talk or arrogance: You make the call.
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(h/t Gateway Pundit)
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LIER, LIER, LIER!
I saw that clip on FNC. What a lying piece of Republican dandruff!
Mcguyver on January 19, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Arrogance….
….which is nothing new for McCain.
Cheesestick on January 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Is his mouth moving?
Then he’s lying.
I’m still waiting for my $50 an hour lettuce-picking job from him.
Liar.
profitsbeard on January 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
The Straight Talk Express: Powered Exclusively by undocumented citizens
Gerard on January 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Straight talk, but I’m not sure which side of his mouth it’s coming from. Looks like the left side.
Surprised no one, except some dude on RealClearPolitics’ live blog, has slammed him for READING his acceptance speech off of a telepromtper. It looked really fake and forced and not genuine…just like McCain!
SouthernGent on January 19, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Please…please please…Fredheads of Florida, please change your vote to someone who can stop this man.
Nessuno on January 19, 2008 at 11:51 PM
SC already did… ugh!
Weight of Glory on January 19, 2008 at 11:52 PM
McCain actually DID vote for amnesty…before he voted against it.
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Memo to South Carolina and the Republican party: Stop allowing open primaries where jellos (independents) and demcocrats can vote in your primaries.
SouthernGent on January 19, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Of course he hasn’t changed his position, he’s lying when he says he’ll do enforcement. He’ll sell out our sovereignty and make the Dems the permanent majority. Huzzah.
doubleplusundead on January 19, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Vid is down. also at the Redlasso link. Oh well, I guess we’ll never know if McCain has decided to stick up for amnesty for illegals, a position he risked his entire political future for a mere 6 months ago, or not.
Or maybe he’s had a change of heart, and he realizes that the brilliant plan he and Ted Kennedy puzzled out together wasn’t so hot after all.
We’ll never know ’cause the link ain’t working.
Might as well make him the Republican nominee anyway, I guess.
billy on January 19, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I want him to go on that new reality show with the lie detector and make those claims.
McLiar strikes again!
Seriously SC? This is the guy you want to lead the free world? I know it could have been worse, you could have picked Huckascam. But seriously, bad, bad, bad choice.
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Arrogant straight talk.
fourstringfuror on January 19, 2008 at 11:58 PM
It’s funny watching everyone panic after McCain’s win tonight. lol calm down.. take a chill pill!
froghat on January 19, 2008 at 11:59 PM
“Secure the border” … so they can all get across safely.
Chimp 6 on January 19, 2008 at 11:59 PM
My call?
Bulls***.
MadisonConservative on January 20, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Maverick:
John McCain is just a couple of chromosomes short of a Donkey…
DANEgerus on January 20, 2008 at 12:01 AM
I think somehow you guys are going to have to get beyond this.
bnelson44 on January 20, 2008 at 12:01 AM
The video’s back up!
And he doesn’t back away from his summer position at all!
Amnesty for illegals and Global Warmening to boot!
Wait’ll the voters of South Carolina hear about this!
He’ll be toast!
…
Oh wait.
Damn.
billy on January 20, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Liar liar your pants are on fire
Mojack420 on January 20, 2008 at 12:03 AM
If getting beyond this means voting for Juan McLiar then you have a really long wait.
He’s never getting my vote. He can pull that amnesia crap on someone who hasn’t been paying attention to his record.
SimplyKimberly on January 20, 2008 at 12:03 AM
My opinion is that he hasn’t changed his basic position. Yes, he at one point used the word “amnesty” to describe his plan but backed away from that, citing the fines one would have to pay and other hoops to be jumped through in order to become a citizen. If you think choosing not to use the word “amnesty” is changing his position, I think that’s only semantics.
In any case, he basically supports the same ideas as before - he only is putting more emphasis on the border control issue than he did previously.
It seems that what he basically wants to happen hasn’t changed - he has only increased the emphasis and timing of one aspect of it.
Vagueperson on January 20, 2008 at 12:04 AM
That clip won’t calm any conservatives tonight.
I thought his line about lowering taxes during his victory speech was a bit confusing, too, considering he did not vote for the Bush tax cuts.
gatewaypundit on January 20, 2008 at 12:04 AM
This is great news.. seriously, if he continues to lie and defend his position he will lose the nomination. If he just said, yes that bill was a mistake, america may be tricked into forgiving him.
Keep it up McCain, I look forward to President Romney.
lan astaslem on January 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Look people, it’s obvious McCain has won the war agaist the Michelle Malkin bloggers. Michelle is deader than Bob Hope
froghat on January 20, 2008 at 12:05 AM
The Straight Talk ExpressThe Forked Tongue ExpressMB4 on January 20, 2008 at 12:08 AM
This justconfirms in my mind what a bunch of uninformed buffoons the SC voters are. McCain is really a Democrat. Duh!!!
Andy in Agoura Hills on January 20, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Ban ‘em.
fogw on January 20, 2008 at 12:10 AM
That’s it. I’m officially staying home for the general election. It’s either going to be McCain or Huckabee, and I can’t stand either of them.
As if my vote mattered. The Democrats are going to kick the crap out of the Republicans come November.
Sydney Carton on January 20, 2008 at 12:13 AM
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DwnSouthJukin on January 20, 2008 at 12:16 AM
The only war must be in McCain’s head remembering which lie to tell.
SouthernGent on January 20, 2008 at 12:17 AM
It has become a verb.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Lame-ass.
This ain’t Marvel and he ain’t Joe Quesada; you cant go expunging whole histories at will.
I like how he slips in the reassertion that republicans care about the environment as much as border security.
PolitiNOOB on January 20, 2008 at 12:21 AM
House.
Senate.
Govenorships. (redistricting is coming up in 2010, Who you vote for now determines who you’ll be allowed to vote for ’till 2020)
That’s the worst thing about the Huck/McCain phenomanon; win or lose they’ll have disastarous effect on all the other races downwind from them.
billy on January 20, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Really I’m not getting all this hate towards McCain. Honestly, America and the Republican party can do a whole lot worst than John McCain.
terryannonline on January 20, 2008 at 12:22 AM
DwnSouthJukin on January 20, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Mentiroso! Mentiroso! Pantalones en el fuego!
(Translation by Babelfish, so if it’s wrong don’t b*tch at me. B*tch at McVain for being a stinking liar.)
ReubenJCogburn on January 20, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Exactly.
LegendHasIt on January 20, 2008 at 12:29 AM
UGH. This is like a nightmare I can’t wake up from.
Go. Away.
amkun on January 20, 2008 at 12:30 AM
Speaking for myself, it’s not hate but it is anger. He’s lying through his teeth about whether he ever supported amnesty and he has made his Senate career on equal parts being a conservative and kicking conservatives in the teeth.
We could do worse than McCain, but it’s debatable on whether we could do a lot worse. If he’s the nominee he’ll get my vote but I won’t support him with much enthusiasm.
Bryan on January 20, 2008 at 12:33 AM
terryannonline on January 20, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Yes, you’re right we could a whole lot worse.
Helluva campaign slogan, if you think about it.
Vote McCain ‘08
we could do a lot worse
billy on January 20, 2008 at 12:34 AM
It’s this sort of political blindness that will kill the conservatism of the Republican Party, and this nation.
Thanks for the illustration.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Didn’t he go after Romney for not supporting them? Funny, I coulda swore he, while a senator, not only didn’t vote against them but actively LOBBIED against them.
amkun on January 20, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Calling VinyFoxy…
Usted necesita aprender español pronto.
Entelechy on January 20, 2008 at 12:36 AM
The idea of ex-patriating and staying here sounds better every day.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 12:38 AM
You shouldn’t single out the voters of SC. This country has decided to get really passionate about politics-as-usual but decided not to let little things like so-called “issues” or “principles” cloud their thinking.
billy on January 20, 2008 at 12:38 AM
It’s either lying or he’s bonkers. Crazy doesn’t mean yelling at nobody wearing a straight jacket –that’s TV stuff.
I think he believes its true, much like Bill Clinton, because he isn’t firing on all cylinders.
Weebork on January 20, 2008 at 12:38 AM
“Really I’m not getting all this hate towards McCain. Honestly, America and the Republican party can do a whole lot worst than John McCain.”
terryannonline on January 20, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Yeah- we could destroy the entire constitution-loving conservative wing of the party - which is, by the way, the backbone of the party - by electing a wackjob senile lying backstabbing RINO - wait - oops, we just did that!
Just stayin’ home in 2008!
TexasJew on January 20, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Re: the video. McCain can’t even keep a straight face when talking about his comprehensive plan to
grant amnestysecure the border.amkun on January 20, 2008 at 12:40 AM
For once John McCain told the truth. He hasn’t changed his stance one iota since he sponsored McCain loves Teddy Kennedy’s ShAmnesty bill. He still wants to give illegal immigrants amnesty. Now the lying part is when he talks about securing the border or upholding our laws etc.
And yeah, McCain worked hard against the Bush tax cuts. It makes me want to puke my guts up that Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn endorsed McCain. I used to really respect that guy but no more. The GOP has apparently gone stupid or insane.
Buzzy on January 20, 2008 at 12:42 AM
I was getting ready to agree with it not being hate, but I’m sorry, when I think about how much damage he has done/is doing/will do to conservatism and this country, frankly, yes, I am beginning to hate him.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 12:42 AM
TD, while this is silly, really, land in Transylvania is breathtakingly beautiful and cheap. I’m however, not considering to move back there. This is still my home.
I advise not giving up yet, and not speaking like misguided lefties do.
Entelechy on January 20, 2008 at 12:44 AM
The McCain-Lindsay Graham ticket. And, as a winning slogan:
“America could do a lot worse… with a rusty coathanger”
TexasJew on January 20, 2008 at 12:45 AM
Lovely Entelechy…reread what I wrote. I said “expatriating and staying here“. I’m suggesting staying in my home country and living off-the-record like the illegals do.
If you can’t friggin’ beat them - thanks, McCain, you bugger.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 12:47 AM
…and btw, nice to talk to you again, Hon.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 12:47 AM
…and if everyone you know leaves & is replaces by 3rd world people who dont share your values, culture or language, Is it still your home then?
Ive seen that exact situation 100 times over here in Texas over the last few years. Wait until McCain, Hillary, Obama, Bush, etc… do this to the rest of the country.
Will it still be your home then?
ARE THERE NO PATRIOTS LEFT ION WASHINGTON?!
*grumble*
DwnSouthJukin on January 20, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Straight talk or arrogance: You make the call.
Neither. He is just reacting to what the American voting public is telling him. The mass media and blogs are propping up polls and saying that people need to vote for certain candidates based on what those polls say. So the candidates are doing whatever they can to get their polling numbers up. McCain, if I remember correctly, was around 6% late last year in October, I believe. Even lower than Fred Thompson. Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani were the leaders. But then, all of a sudden, John McCain rose in the polls and now leads nationally. He hasn’t changed positions on anything, still keeps pushing liberal, redefining Conservative principles talking points and has seen his stock rise.
Meanwhile, with this rise, he sees all the political pundits, mass media and sites like HotAir and others saying that the polls tell the story and we have to focus on “electability” and “momentum” and forget the issues. The focus should be on running a great campaign, not on issues. Just frame the issues in whatever way to fool the most people to vote for you and get your numbers to rise well in the polls. Forget whether or not the policy positions are correct. Just flip flop, misrepresent or outright lie and count on the American voting public to not notice any of this.
Mike Huckabee and John McCain are running their campaigns this way and are garnering praise across the board for having great campaigs. Meanwhile, Mitt, Rudy and Fred run their campaigns on issues and get criticized for it.
So, John McCain is just doing what the American voting public is telling him to do: run a great campaign and wow us with one-liners and identity politics and we shall vote for you.
I really don’t know why people keep criticizing the candidates when they are just doing what the American voting public is telling them to do. McCain is rising in the national polls based on his message. Why should he change it? Especially when people keep saying that he is now inevitable and people should just forget about Rudy and Fred and now need to focus on Huckabee, McCain and Mitt, even though we have not even gotten to Super Tuesday yet.
If political pundits want to live by the polling numbers, we will all die by the polling numbers too. Unless people ignore the polls and encourage people to vote on policy and principle, we will get what we deserve in November with either a liberal, populist RINO or a liberal Democrat in the White House.
Michael in MI on January 20, 2008 at 12:49 AM
I am sooo going to vote for McCain
Rode Werk on January 20, 2008 at 12:49 AM
“People want change”
Yeah riiight.
Saltysam on January 20, 2008 at 12:49 AM
And you think that staying home and giving the win to Hillary is going to better for America?
terryannonline on January 20, 2008 at 12:49 AM
Is this something worth to consider? Vietnam Veterans Against McCain?
mr.nice on January 20, 2008 at 12:50 AM
I think there is little to no difference. He is just a liberal pretending to be a conservative. And Hillary, tho disgusting, is more honest about who she is than McVain. And the fact that you refuse to see that saddens me.
No, I will not be staying home. I will be writing in Fred.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 12:52 AM
There isn’t a handful of difference between Hillary and McLiar.
SimplyKimberly on January 20, 2008 at 12:53 AM
What John McCain really shows us is that the support for national security as a platform is still very strong and viable. His support for the surge, if you believe the media, should have torpedoed him. In fact, it did the opposite and he has risen to the top again.
It wasn’t the other issues because it was the independents that have carried him, and he has moved to the right on all the other issues, including immigration which he now casts as enforcement first.
Spirit of 1776 on January 20, 2008 at 12:54 AM
I will not give up my principles to elect a RINO. I’d rather watch Hillary or Obama make things worse, in hopes that sheep like you and those dolts in SC wake the heck up and turn the Repubs back to the real conservatives.
Ronnie is spinning in his grave. God rest his soul.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 12:54 AM
Yes.
McCain (as well as Huckabee) is a friend of the Democrats. He has many liberal Democrat positions. And I don’t see the Republicans in Congress uniting to stop anything he wants to do as President. They will, however, have more motivation to unite to stop anything a Hillary Clinton Administration wants to do.
Michael in MI on January 20, 2008 at 12:54 AM
It’s a tough choice….should i vote for amnesty candidate #1 or amnesty candidate #2 ??
HaraldHardrada on January 20, 2008 at 12:55 AM
Staying home in 2008? That won’t help a wink. This once proud country is no longer proud and has no fight left in it. It’s become a mushy socialist state.
Since WWII, we’ve been beaten into submission by the very evil we had been fighting.
And have any of you heard of the Communist Goals of 1963? Here’s a few:
11)Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12)Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13)Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14)Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15)Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16)Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17)Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18)Gain control of all student newspapers.
19)Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20)Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21)Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22)Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
Ugly, huh? I think the Communists won.
Don’t sit home, folks. Speak out on the issues that matter to you. Vote. Teach conservative values. Stop crying.
Skidd on January 20, 2008 at 12:55 AM
Do you honestly believe that? Look, I’m not McCain apologist, but you think he isn’t going to affect our budget or the wot or pro-life issues (judges for ex) in a fundamentally different way then Hillary?
Spirit of 1776 on January 20, 2008 at 12:55 AM
So is everyone on here disowning Reagan and Bush as conservatives then? They’ve supported immigration reform. Bush is suppose to be conservative and under his presidency the Republican Congress spent like crazy. Where’s all the dislike for Reagan and Bush?
terryannonline on January 20, 2008 at 12:55 AM
I agree. I see Mike Huckabee and John McCain as simply liberal Democrats running in the Republican Party.
Michael in MI on January 20, 2008 at 12:56 AM
tickleddragon, sorry that I misunderstood. In that case you must aprender español pronto. Somehow I believe you won’t choose to be idle.
The situation is, however, ripe for less ambitious work. Why work hard to pay more taxes? Moving to the country, taking care of the land, and a few animals, and working part time sounds better and better. I have the opportunity, the knowledge, creativity and drive to work much, but not to support socialism and exploitative Capitalism.
Entelechy on January 20, 2008 at 12:56 AM
What better says “change” than a crooked 71 year-old 5-term Senator with melanoma and severe brain damage who has pushed through some of the most unconstitutional legislation on our lifetimes and who couldn’t find the truth if it were glued onto his head?
The future is now!
TexasJew on January 20, 2008 at 12:56 AM
Don’t sit at home??
Why? Is there a viable third party I’m not aware of?
HaraldHardrada on January 20, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Bull***t! He is more of a threat to national security than anyone in Iraq.
DwnSouthJukin on January 20, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Well, one thing seems certain, McCain will do what’s necessary on the national security front and none of the Democrats will and that’s potentially a life or death difference of great importance. As for immigration, the American people rose up once and put the fear of God into Washington and they will do so again if necessary. It’s wasn’t just conservatives that rose up, it was the vast majority, cutting across all political persuasions, gender and race. They are checkmated on immigration for now, but not national security.
TheBigOldDog on January 20, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Cheer up, people! McCain won 2 states that he’s been campaigning in for 8 years and needed indies to bail him out of both. Just wait till he gets to Florida with little organization, little cash, and a closed primary. He cannot win with the Republican wing of the Republican party.
Greenhorn on January 20, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Reagan passed immigration reform under the agreement that the borders would be secured. Congress did not secure them. And Bush is not a conservative.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Good thought. I’m only half-joking.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 12:59 AM
President Bush is not a conservative. Period. He has some conservative positions, but I don’t know anyone who calls him a conservative. Rush Limbaugh stresses this point as well. “Compassionate” Conservatism was simply code for being a liberal with some conservative positions.
Michael in MI on January 20, 2008 at 1:00 AM
No no, I already know mucho Spanish, it is you Gringos who must hurry up and aprenda a hablar espanol!
Moreover, your future el Presidente Juan the First comandos que.
VinyFoxy on January 20, 2008 at 1:00 AM
How about Reagan?
terryannonline on January 20, 2008 at 1:00 AM
Why close your eyes, and hope? I’d rather make sure he doesn’t get the opportunity to try and pass more of his garbage.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 1:01 AM
terryannonline on January 20, 2008 at 12:49 AM
It would be better for the conservative movement in America.
If McCain wins the election, the Republican party is over as we
knowknew it.Saltysam on January 20, 2008 at 1:01 AM
Like allow an invasion of our country from the 3rd world that will alter forever our way of life and the lives of our grand children (against the will of the people)? You know, that way of life he says our men are fighting for in Iraq?
DwnSouthJukin on January 20, 2008 at 1:01 AM
You claim to be a Christian and all you do is complain. Christ told you to shine His light, didn’t He? Yes. He did. You need to concentrate more on Him.
Skidd on January 20, 2008 at 1:02 AM
Juan looks at the polls and sees himself with a lead from which he draws one of two conclusions: either no one remembers The McCain/Kennedy “The Welfare of Mexican Nationals Illegaly Residing in The U.S. Supercedes That of The American People” Bill (or The McCain/Feingold “The People Must Be Silenced!” Bill) OR that we’re all too stupid to understand what he did/tried to do with those bills.
In this first case, he reasons, it’s not a lie if no one remembers the truth. In the second, he reasons that he can say whatever he wants because none of us are smart enough to understand how bad he’s screwed/wants to screw us over.
One thing’s for sure: He MUST be stopped.
SuperCool on January 20, 2008 at 1:02 AM
Add me to that list.
MB4 on January 20, 2008 at 1:03 AM
McVain, I will never forget that you called me, and others like me, bigots for not supporting your Shamnesty bill.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 1:04 AM
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:
Yeah, John McCain’s nomination is going to rally the Republican party much like Bob Dole did. Basically, go over like a lead balloon. Uh, lets see
- He’s been in the Senate for decades
- He’s a certified war hero
- He’s as old as dirt
- He’s ran for President 3 times before
- It’s his turn to get the nomination
Yes, it is! It is Bob Dole! I’ve seen this movie before and didn’t like way it ends. He is just a slightly meaner, nastier version of ole Bob. The country is crying out for change and a new direction for American politics, and the Republican’s send out Senator Palpatine as their nominee? I don’t think so.
McCain=Bob Dole (only less conservative)
joncoltonis on January 20, 2008 at 1:04 AM
Taking part in the political process is a lot more than just casting one’s vote on one day every 2 years. People need to stay active in following legislation and contacting their local and state representatives as well as contacting the Administration to voice their support or displeasure with what our government is doing. Phone calls, letters, e-mails, letters to the editor. All of this is necessary. Voting is only one part of what we can do.
We also need to work to educate and inform our fellow Americans. Coworkers, friends, family. We need to spread info and news to them all the time. Keep them informed and educated. Don’t necessarily try to prostletize to them, but just provide them the info and open the discussion with them and help them make up their own minds on the issue.
An informed, educated and engaged/active American public is the best thing for this nation. We need to stop with the identity politics and get back to talking about issues and ideology.
Michael in MI on January 20, 2008 at 1:04 AM
Hehe…Senator Palpatine. PERFECT.
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 1:05 AM
I cannot speak to the overall conservativeness of Ronald Reagan, since I was not following politics then and I only know limited amounts about his Administration and history.
Michael in MI on January 20, 2008 at 1:06 AM
McCain is weak on every conservative principal that actually matters and has a snow ball’s chance of being changed except 2nd Amendment issues, and given his proclivity for crawling into bed with ultra-left wing libs I don’t trust him on that either. He is awful on immigration and not only ignores the American people, but flat out misrepresents what we have been telling him. He is awful on taxes. He is God-awful on energy and has a record voting against drilling for oil in ANWR and newly discovered fields in the Gulf leaving us dependent on foreign oil, ensuring future involvement in foreign conflict.
I am becoming more and more convinced that my choice in November is going to be to not vote for President. I’m thinking that the gamble that a Hillary presidency is going to ensure a GOP win in 2010 and a retaking of the presidency and Congress is 2012 is worth the risk. Hillary, Obama, McCain and Huckster will all screw up this country terribly. Now it is simply a matter of short v long term strategy. Any of those 4 choices make me physically ill.
deepdiver on January 20, 2008 at 1:06 AM
I honestly believe there is not much difference between Hillary and McLiar.
If I were a one issue voter I would vote for Mike Huckabee. He is clearly the most devoted to being pro-life. But I have to look at all the issues that affect this nation. And if Juan wants to sell our country out to the lowest bidder by keeping our borders open - then all the war on terror success is for naught.
I cannot and will not vote for McLiar.
And it has nothing to do with being a FredHead. Because, I may give Mitt a vote. He has the advantage of not being Juan.
SimplyKimberly on January 20, 2008 at 1:06 AM
Bush is not a conservative. Bush is a RINO also. He spends like crazy. He’s for amnesty. He has done nothing to cut back the growth of government. He’s sending Condi to negotiate in favor of the Palestinian terrorists. He hasn’t done jack regarding Iran. And he’s friends with the Saudis.
Bush is a major disappointment. McCain will be as well.
But as I said, the Republicans are going to get stomped by the Dems in November. All the enthusiasm is on the Dem side. Frankly, the reason why the Republican primary is being dragged out so long is because the base is fed up with the way that the GOP has governed for so long.
Sydney Carton on January 20, 2008 at 1:07 AM
Amen. The other side never gives up, we shouldn’t either.
Skidd on January 20, 2008 at 1:07 AM
Be fair tickles, McCain didn’t call you and I a bigot, his chief S. Carolina supporter, Lindsey Graham, called us bigots.
billy on January 20, 2008 at 1:08 AM
+1
tickleddragon on January 20, 2008 at 1:08 AM
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