There’s a large number of judiciary appointments that the Senate is still refusing to confirm.

Yes. Thanks, McVain! Hope the media tongue bath was worth it!

Chin up, Dave! If Thompson drops out you can exercise your right this coming November and vote for either Hillary or the candidate who will lose to her.

NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:51 AM

For what its worth, I’ll still exercise my right to vote in my state’s Primary on Super Tuesday. If my guy doesn’t survive the Convention, I’ll hold my nose and vote “R”(ino) in November.

November is too important to sit out. Number one reason for me: judges.

There’s a large number of judiciary appointments that the Senate is still refusing to confirm. Does anybody know the current number still being held up in the Senate? I’m guessing it is safe to assume that Skeletor Reid will still be running the Senate next year. What are the odds that McShamnesty and the other “gang of comp(R)omise(R)s” would filibuster to hold up Her Thighness’s or The Messiah’s nominees? I’d guess slim to none.

In 1860 the candidate chosen to be the nominee at the Republican convention was fourth in delegates and only won one state (his home state)… He won at the convention because he was the only candidate that was acceptable to all the wings of the party. This candidate later became President… his name was Abe Lincoln. A case can be made that only Fred Thompson is acceptable to all wings of the party. I think this is why he should stay in until the convention.

Fred!

I actually think a moderate RINO like McCain probably has better chances of beating Hillary and/or than a conservative like Mitt or Fred.

I disagree, Malan. If history is any guide, conservatism always wins at the national level (and, in a great many cases, at the state level. In the 2006 mid-terms, it was moderate and liberal Republicans – the ones who colluded with Democrats on so many issues – who got whomped at the polls. Note also that the Democrats were clever enough to ensure that only right-leaning candidates ran for Congress). For a detailed analysis, read my 11:39 post above.

I know I was down on Fred earlier in the night, but after looking at his numbers in other, larger big delegate states he can still pull it off.

I never said he coudn’t. Given the state of flux in which this race still exists, it’s entirely possible that the other candidates could so damage themselve and each other that Fred is the last man standing.

If only Mitt and Fred could run as a single entity for the nomination and then in the general as running mates. It would unite the Republican wing of the Republican party under one candidate and defeat McCain and Huck.

It’s a delicious fantasy, but one that will never become a reality unless Fred is at the top of the ticket. He offered his services as president and, based on everything I have heard from him and read about him, I seriously doubt he would accept the second violin chair in the next orchestra. He didn’t go to all the trouble of carefully delineating and explaining all of his policy positions in papers published on his website only to have them ignored, or worse, trampled underfoot by Romney. On the other hand, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that he would choose Romney as his running mate.

BKennedy on January 20, 2008 at 2:15 AM

Your ignorance of political science is appalling. Perhaps if you studies a bit more and brayed a bit less, you might – just might – begin to understand what’s going on.

Thompson made no concerted effort to campaign in Wyoming; the Iowa caucuses are a joke and most educated students of politics understand this; in New Hampshire the process is open to voters of non-Republican affiliations. Most of McCain’s support came from the sub-species of political retard known colloquially as “independents.” And so forth.

You need to go back and reference my opening remark in which I paraphrased Mencken. Then ponder it for a bit. Hopefully you won’t continue to bloviate like your rotund namesake from Massachusetts.

I think by the end of this, Fredheads will be drunk from the beer after realizing all 50 of the United States are liberal for not drinking the Fred Kool-Aid.

BKennedy on January 20, 2008 at 2:15 AM

I will stick with the wisdom of the Rush. In all the above states you listed independents and Dems could vote. When McCain starting waving his enviro wacko sign do you think he was trying to get the conservative vote? In the conservative southern states, with closed primaries, a different picture will emerge.

Fred!

Perhaps I should donate to Huckabee. My support is the kiss of friggin death.

Which is precisely why I laugh at Fredheads. Fred doesn’t win? Blow it off. That state is liberal. Stay away!

BKennedy on January 20, 2008 at 2:15 AM

Your bulls*** never stops. I’d like you to quote all the posts that dismiss South Carolina as a liberal state. The only thing I’ve heard aside from “Conservative” and “Evangelical” is that it’s got a lot of love for the military, hence McCain’s advantage.

I think by the end of this, Fredheads will be drunk from the beer after realizing all 50 of the United States are liberal for not drinking the Fred Kool-Aid. BKennedy on January 20, 2008 at 2:15 AM

I’d rather have a drop of Fred’s Kool-Aid than the bucket fulls of BS that are being shoveled out by the other candidates. Romney can always FLIP burgers or FLIP pancakes for his contribution.

I’ll vote “R” in November but I’ll be holding my nose.

Puhleeeeeze. If anything, Fred Thompson is the exception to the Mencken Rule: he may, in fact, go broke (politically) underestimating the intelligence of the Republican voters – at least, the morons who comprise the Republican electorate in SC.

NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 1:09 AM

Uh yeah, I’m real confident Fred, the man who keeps getting slaughtered by Ron Paul could beat Hillary Clinton. Puh-leeze, how many states are Fredheads going to call liberal until Fred wins one?

Add these states in the RINO/liberal column:

Wyoming (RINO MITT!)
Iowa (RINO HUCK!)
New Hampshire (RINO MCCAIN!)
Michigan (RINO MITT!)
Nevada (RINO MITT!)
South Carolina (RINO MCCAIN!)

If only the entire populations of 6 states weren’t so full of f’ing RINOS!

I guess SC is just as infested with liberals as New Hamphire.

Which is precisely why I laugh at Fredheads. Fred doesn’t win? Blow it off. That state is liberal. Stay away!

I think by the end of this, Fredheads will be drunk from the beer after realizing all 50 of the United States are liberal for not drinking the Fred Kool-Aid.

malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 1:12 AM

You said this thread was dead. The moment I’m gone, you throw a party?

Keep the FAITH!

If anything, Fred Thompson is the exception to the Mencken Rule: he may, in fact, go broke (politically) underestimating the intelligence of the Republican voters – at least, the morons who comprise the Republican electorate in SC.

What he needs to do is educate the voters on the backgrounds of Mike Huckabee and John McCain. If I had a clean slate of knowledge on the candidates I don’t know who I’d support. Huckabee is pretty damn charismatic.

Saying that if Fred drops out then Hillary is the next President is hardly a daring prediction. But what the heck, I’ll give you credit for it.

I never said it was daring, ghost. Only inevitable.

I’m not exactly sure why people think the gentleman who did not run a campaign well enough (and thus didn’t get his message out enough) to mobilize conservatives could do so on a national scale, but forget the reality, dreams die hard.

Puhleeeeeze. If anything, Fred Thompson is the exception to the Mencken Rule: he may, in fact, go broke (politically) underestimating the intelligence of the Republican voters – at least, the morons who comprise the Republican electorate in SC.

The collective (are we Bolsheviks? Borg, perhaps?)will, indeed, “speak” in November.

Collective in this use is an adjective not a noun. Perhaps you prefer – ‘the aggregate will’. Either way, point remains.

Actually, a minority of them will vote.

Well, we are veering OT but I will merely add the comment even when the majority choose not to vote, their will is to allow someone else to decide for them. I think that vastly preferable to a system of mandated voting of course, but it still all folds in together to create the mosaic of American opinion.

What are these Republicans NOT getting about controlling the border, winning the war, lowering taxes, and nominating conservative judges?

Mojave Mark on January 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM

Wasn’t that on a Hugh Hewitt t-shirt?
Anyways, I think TWO Republicans do get it. Mitt and Fred.

Chin up, Dave! If Thompson drops out you can exercise your right this coming November and vote for either Hillary or the candidate who will lose to her.

Paging Mr. Hobson…paging Mr. Thomas Hobson. Your presence is requested in the voting booth.

NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:51 AM

I actually think a moderate RINO like McCain probably has better chances of beating Hillary and/or than a conservative like Mitt or Fred. But, I don’t think you should be freaking out about McCain winning SC. Sure, he’ll get the free press from the MSM for a few days and maybe get a boost in a few meaningless polls, but I would bet on the fact that one of the two conservatives in this race wins the nomination. I know I was down on Fred earlier in the night, but after looking at his numbers in other, larger big delegate states he can still pull it off. If only Mitt and Fred could run as a single entity for the nomination and then in the general as running mates. It would unite the Republican wing of the Republican party under one candidate and defeat McCain and Huck.

What are these Republicans NOT getting about controlling the border, winning the war, lowering taxes, and nominating conservative judges?

Mojave Mark on January 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM

Don’t forget about punching the hippies. :-)

I’ll give a few examples, but will take liberty to add the reactions they spurred in me:

1) “It’s just a BOOKCASE!” (OH, BULLS**T. Quit lyin’.)
2) “Metamucil” (Uncalled for, overly personal Low blow. If you’re gonna say that about Fred, say it for McCain too. He’s 6 years older than Fred is.)
3) “Mormons believe Satan is the brother of..”
I have friends who are LDS who assure me this isn’t the case. I haven’t read enough of the Book of Mormon to determine this for sure yet for myself, so I’ll waver on this one. I still think it was wrong of him to do that. It was a FEAR-based tactic, not a FAITH-based one. And that really bothers me. A LOT.)
4) “I’ll send all illegal aliens home”. (Quit pandering just for votes ya suckup.)

Doesn’t look to me like behavior a claimed disciple of Christ would engage in.

Yes, it is. But some people here have earned generosity when faced with loss. That is big picture, the nation is, in fact, a conglomerate of individuals. The collective will will again speak in November. – Spirit of 1776 on January 20, 2008 at 12:48 AM

There is an ineffable charm to your incoherence. The collective (are we Bolsheviks? Borg, perhaps?)will, indeed, “speak” in November.

Actually, a minority of them will vote. And a majority of that minority will ensure that Medusa takes residence in the Oval Office.

I haven’t even gotten to vote in this election yet. Sad. – Dave Shay on January 20, 2008 at 12:37 AM

Chin up, Dave! If Thompson drops out you can exercise your right this coming November and vote for either Hillary or the candidate who will lose to her.

Paging Mr. Hobson…paging Mr. Thomas Hobson. Your presence is requested in the voting booth.

NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:35 AM

Saying that if Fred drops out then Hillary is the next President is hardly a daring prediction. But what the heck, I’ll give you credit for it. I’m not exactly sure why people think the gentleman who did not run a campaign well enough (and thus didn’t get his message out enough) to mobilize conservatives could do so on a national scale, but forget the reality, dreams die hard.

No, I’m not obtuse, I just don’t care when people are intellectually lazy and just my nom de plume to try to make a point. Alamo: I think my statement is clear enough. Politics is a give and take, not a proverbial Alamo. If the comparison confuses you because of your travels, make it Custer’s last stand then. I read doubt addition words are needed here.

How small-picture sweet of you. Those of us who see the big picture wish he would have done better for sake of the nation.

Yes, it is. But some people here have earned generosity when faced with loss. That is big picture, the nation is, in fact, a conglomerate of individuals. The collective will will again speak in November.

Well according to voters who were going to vote for Romney, they switched to McLiar because it was “his turn”. Forget principles and records. It is all about whose turn it is. – SimplyKimberly on January 20, 2008 at 12:38 AM

If memory serves, that is precisely what the Stupid Party did when they nominated Bob Dole as the candidate for president in the 1996 election.

We all know how that ended.

As a Fredhead I’m feeling like the Betamax owners in the 90’s. Hey folks it really is a better format.

What are these Republicans NOT getting about controlling the border, winning the war, lowering taxes, and nominating conservative judges?

Mojave Mark on January 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM

Well according to voters who were going to vote for Romney, they switched to McLiar because it was “his turn”.

Forget principles and records.

It is all about whose turn it is.