Open thread: Polls closed in SC, too close to call; Update: Narrow lead for McCain? Update: “We are not blind to the obvious,” says senior Fred advisor; Update: Fred heads home
posted at 7:12 pm on January 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Barone was just on Fox saying they can’t say yet who’ll win but they know for sure who won’t — Mitt and Fred, both lagging and locked in a battle for third place. Is a 15-14 “victory” for third place enough to keep this campaign going, realistically? Nope, although he’ll be quite a thorn in Mitt’s side in Florida if he limps, especially if McCain squeaks through here.
As usual, you can follow the returns at CNN or Politico; the results have already summoned the Reaper for one GOP candidate. Heavy evangelical turnout tonight too, ominously for Huck-haters, although in fairness he’s not doing nearly as well with identity politics these days as Mitt is.
Exit question: If Huck pulls it out, will Fred send over those 25 cases of Bud?
Update: NBC’s got detailed exit polls. Maverick leads Huck by three or four points among both genders. Mitt and Fred are even among women but Romney leads by two among men.
Update: I’m not accusing Romney of playing identity politics. It’s his Mormon supporters in Nevada who are playing it. How else to explain 94% support?
Update: Fred just gave his concession speech with lots of “true conservative” boilerplate, but notably didn’t say anything about his intentions. It sounded like a farewell — “the spirit of Reagan lives on” (even if his campaign doesn’t).
Update: A chill wind blows:
While he remains in the race, two sources told CNN that “it was abundantly evident to all of us” that the bar was a win or a very competitive second place in South Carolina to continue to be viable in the GOP presidential race.
Thompson has no public schedule Sunday, and is planning to consult with campaign manager Bill Lacy and other top advisers about the next move.
“We are not blind to the obvious,” said one senior campaign adviser.
But, given the muddled course of the Republican race so far, both aides said Thompson and his advisers wanted to watch the results come in tonight before making a final decision.
When push came to shove, he just … didn’t have enough cowbell.
Update: The Reaper ain’t here yet, says Carl Cameron.
Update:? Fred’s already left the state for home in Virginia. The fact that he’s not waiting around to find out if he edged Romney for third doesn’t bode well for its significance to him.
Update: Huckabee’s getting … 12% of non-evangelical voters. Even if he wins here, his reputation as a one-trick pony who can’t win in less religious states is sealed.
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Take a look at Romney. The only conservative left in this race.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Hey! What’s with you always wanting to declare things dead!?
theregoestheneighborhood on January 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Elaine and the sponges. Classic.
When does the ban come into place, like 2012 right?
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Dude, come on. I admire you for sticking with your guy but even he has all but dropped out already.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Another one that doesn’t quite understand what conservative really means.
LegendHasIt on January 19, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Well, this is for sure….now that Fred is out, Allah is going to need some new material.
I figure the HuckaGibot supporters will do for a while. But after that, I don’t see many McShamnesty supporters or Rudy supporters. That leaves the Mitt supporters for him to start poking with a stick.
csdeven on January 19, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Sorry, I will not vote along with people that feel issues dont matter and feel that identity politics is the only way to vote. I will NOT lend credibility to their way of thinking.
Huck – Evangelicals
Romney – Mormons
McCain – He got the majority military vote
Good luck, I hope all of those people can vote 5 times a piece in the general.
broker1 on January 19, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I’m sticking with Fred.
As Rush has said people act likeSC is all that matters. When we get to the southern conservative states it will all be over for Huck and John because they won’t be able to get the independent vote which is what is carrying them thus far.
I think if Fred does drop, he will back Mitt.
As for Fred going home to see his mother, back the heck off. She is elderly and in the hospital and some crap should be off limits. If it had been Huck he would have Exploited it to his advantage. Fred can keep tabs on the way home on where he stands with Mitt.
RobertInAustin on January 19, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Either way, Im out for a while. Good luck to you guys who are Mitt or Rudy fans. Take care.
broker1 on January 19, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Romney is the most conservative candidate in the race. He’s not perfect on every issue, but neither was Fred.
I wouldn’t say that ALL Evangelicals get together and vote for one candidate. As for the Mormons in Nevada, I just thinked they picked the most viable conservative candidate.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Bologna! Mitt has more delegates and popular vote (?) than anyone. Neither Iowa or NH are LDS bastions.
csdeven on January 19, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Ditto.
I want to see the results in a closed primary state.
What will happen when Independents and Dims can’t vote for Juan?
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 10:42 PM
we thought that because it was the only way for Fred to keep his campaign alive. he isn’t doing anything anywhere else.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Unfortunately, I think SC WAS a closed primary state.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM
For what it’s worth, the General Lee is on the auction block right now at the Barrett-Jackson on Speed.
fourstringfuror on January 19, 2008 at 10:45 PM
No. It wasn’t a closed primary. They said so on FOX News tonight.
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM
And Mike Huckabee issued a press release stating he supports the paint job on the roof of the car.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
You’re right. I stand corrected.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:49 PM
I like how FOX cut off Fred’s speech by saying his mic wasn’t working and then went live to Mitt. I flipped it right to CNN and Fred’s mic was fine. I smell some RINO’s.
Fred!
RobertInAustin on January 19, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Mitt was the big winner today. I think he deserved the airtime. BTW…Newsflash: Not everybody besides Fred and his supporters are RINOs.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Won’t work, any ILLEGAL immigration (your choice gave you away) hardliner that would hook up with McShAmnesty of the McCain Feingold McShamnestys would forever live in shame in the eyes of any real conservative. I never looked at Ronald Reagan the same way after he gave illegals amnesty but then again I’ve always been a Teddy Roosevelt Republican. Probably why I think that Free Market without Trustbusting is a huge mistake. RR somewhat redeemed himself later when he admitted that amnesty was a huge mistake on his part and he would never listen to McCain again but a bell can’t be unrung.
I would guess that if there was any hope that the GOP isn’t going to fracture and die it would have to be Mitt Romney. Fred, for whatever reason, isn’t going to make it and Mitt, at least, has solid Republican cred if not as solid conservative cred.
Honestly I don’t exactly trust Romney’s global corporationalist nature. I think that mindset is exactly what has been wrong for America since Bush41 came into office but then again I work for a living and don’t live off of proceeds from investments. Mitt’s promise that he would have the Federal government bail out Michigan’s economy seemed hollow since it was Mitt’s kind of free market thinking that killed the economy in the first place and as a conservative I thought that statement sounded awfully “progressive”. But then again I’ve always been a TR Republican which means I think free market is great until it hurts my country or the citizens that work hard to live in it. I don’t trust China, or Vietnam, or Mexico, or anywhere else and I trust corporations that owe allegiance to no nation least of all.
But still, Romney is so much better than McCain, Huckabee, Hillary, Obama, or Giuliani, I could vote for him.
Buzzy on January 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Haha!
Me too!!
Texas Gal on January 19, 2008 at 10:53 PM
NEWSFLASH:
FRED NOR HIS SUPPORTERS ARE RINOS
Texas Gal on January 19, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Didn’t say so.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 10:55 PM
news flash: Ron Paul got more questions and time in the last debate, you do the math.
RobertInAustin on January 19, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Isn’t SC the first state where Fred has beat Ron Paul? Besides, Ron Paul is funnier to watch at a debate anyways. Oh, and I didn’t see Ron Paul get any questions at the FNC Presidential Forum in SC last week.
malan89 on January 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Nope. He beat him in Iowa and Wyoming too.
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Fred is Dead; Long Live Fred!
Time to focus on the only remaining conservative running for the GOP nomination, and now with a free conscience. Fred supporters — throw your support to Mitt, the most capable and accomplished candidate for the nomination.
Screw the Huckster.
Jaibones on January 19, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Texas’ primary isn’t until March 4th.
If Fred! stays in until then he will get my vote.
If not, I have plenty of time to decide what to do. I MAY hold my nose and vote for Mitt. But he is the only one that has a shot at getting it outside of Fred!
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 11:22 PM
And still another who doesn’t quite grasp what conservative means.
LegendHasIt on January 19, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Well, SimKim, I think you and I are the PULSE of the Great State of Texas .. ;)
Texas Gal on January 19, 2008 at 11:27 PM
And the winner is…VinyFoxy
I’m waiting for the darkest hour.
MB4, what’s happening inside you tonight? All this is really just politics. The three you listed are all the same, whether we vote, or not. Maybe a Reagan will emerge after 2-3 years of any of them taking over. Believe, and pray.
Entelechy on January 19, 2008 at 11:38 PM
To paraphrase Mencken: Nobody ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of Republican voters. (The stupidity of Democrat voters is axiomatic and therefore warrants no further elucidation).
For the Bible-banging rubes and super-annuated AmVets in South Carolina who voted for Elmer Gantry and the Maverick, H.L. Mencken was a writer full of that there book learnin.
Hunter is out, leaving Thompson as the only consistent conservative who had a snowball’s chance in Hell of uniting the Republican vote. If Thompson drops out that will leave (in order of any shred of reliable conservatism) Mitt, Rudy, McCain and Huckabee (sorry, PaulNuts, but Ron Paul is a freak and will soon be relegated to the dustbin of primary history).
Hear me now and believe me later: the nomination of any of the above four will fracture the Republican electorate and guarantee the presidency of Hillary Clinton. Yes, Hillary Clinton. (You don’t seriously believe the Democrat party leadership would allow a black man to become president, do you? Heh…their advocacy of affirmative action goes only so far, don’tcha know.)
If Huckabee is nominated, the MSM will turn on him immediately as the Christian answer to Ayatollah Khomeini while gleefully pointing out that this guitar-plucking fraud is, in fact, an aw-shucks bull-flopper who knows dick about the role of the U.S. in the world today.
If McCain is nominated there is a good chance that a sizable number of true conservative Republicans will not even bother to vote on election day, reasoning that, at the conclusion of the scorched-earth presidency of the Lizard Queen, the Reagan Coalition will arise as a phoenix from the ashes and retake the Republic. (Heh…good luck with all of that.)
If Rudy is nominated you can kiss the Evangelical vote goodbye – ditto for most of the South, since he is an Italian from New YAWK – with an annoying lisp, no less.
If Mitt is nominated, most of the Republican electorate will hold their noses (yet again) and vote for him – except for the Bible-thumpers, on whom you can count to pretty much boycott the election, which will be rather a shame, seeing as how it will be about as close as the election was in 2000. Their bigoted (yes, bigoted) refusal to vote for Romney for no reason other than the fact he adheres to an utterly silly religion (golden tablets from the angel Moroni? Give me an effin break) will effectively roll out the red carpet for Her Thighness.
Pray, you fools. Pray long and pray hard that Thompson can triangulate this mess to his advantage. Pray that Huckabee Hucks up one time too many and gets the come-uppance he truly deserves. Pray that the Republican electorate realizes that a vote for McCain is a vote for Hillary. Pray that Huck and the Maverick can sufficiently destabilize Romney’s efforts to ensure Thompson’s emergence as the only true standard-bearer of the Reagan Coalition.
Forget not the words of Tennyson: More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of.
NemoParticularis on January 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Ron Paul is the cranky grandfather with dementia at thanksgiving. You just get quiet and count the minutes until his medications kick in and he goes to sleep.
RobertInAustin on January 19, 2008 at 11:41 PM
TexasGal, count me in that pulse.
RobertInAustin on January 19, 2008 at 11:44 PM
NemoParticularis, thank you.
You are a wonderful addition to HA.
Entelechy on January 19, 2008 at 11:45 PM
I am right there with you.
When the rest of the country loses their damn minds, I am thankful that Texas keeps its wits.
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 11:52 PM
I have finally with my own eyes seen what the phrase means: Grasping for straws!
Thanks for that lesson Nemo! Whew! I’m a better man for it.
Mcguyver on January 19, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Thompson is done.
Spirit of 1776 on January 19, 2008 at 11:57 PM
A year ago, I had the pleasure and honor of visiting the Alamo one night, after tourist hours. In defiance of the rules, I slipped past the ropes and touched its walls. In that moment I became one with history, both past and present, living and dead. The effect was electrifying and well worth the admonishment I got from the guard.
God bless the great state of Texas, Kimberly. Who knows? The way things are going, Texas may yet fulfull the destiny envisioned for it by Sam Houston.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Doubtful.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:07 AM
In which case, so is the spirit of 1776.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Nonsense. I’m alive and well.
The reality is that the system is and always have been give and take. The idea that politics is a proverbial Alamo is wrong. I have many people on this site of which I am fond, and I wish that Fred had done better in SC not only for myself, but for their sake. However he did not.
Hanging on and pretending he is going to pull out some victory, (when according to your previous hyperbole he has now lost Trenton) is like been a fan of a recently canceled show. You can sit around and watch old episodes, go to some conventions or whatever, but the show itself is over.
Spirit of 1776 on January 20, 2008 at 12:19 AM
It made me absolutely ill tonight listening to McCain’s victory speech when he intimated that he was the natural heir of the Reagan mantle.
About the only thing McCain has in common with Reagan is Reagan’s ONE big mistake: Amnesty for Illegal Aliens.
LegendHasIt on January 20, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Thanks.
baldilocks on January 20, 2008 at 12:24 AM
As a Fredhead I’m feeling like the Betamax owners in the 90’s. Hey folks it really is a better format.
What are these Republicans NOT getting about controlling the border, winning the war, lowering taxes, and nominating conservative judges?
Mojave Mark on January 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Robert, we do know that Texas is really a Fred State, our only hope is that he hangs in until Mar 4th. If not, I will write him in but once the nominee is decided, it’s gonna be really … I mean really… hard to vote for anyone else … except close my eyes and cross my fingers Romney .. :-(
Texas Gal on January 20, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Are you obtuse on purpose? Or were you born that way?
I never compared politics to the Alamo. I simply mentioned that I visited the place. Wake up. Pay attention.
How small-picture sweet of you. Those of us who see the big picture wish he would have done better for sake of the nation.
Time will tell, ghost. The fat lady – or in this case, the really tall balding guy with a face like a catcher’s mitt – hasn’t quite sung yet. Nevertheless, I stand by what I said: if Fred drops out then Hillary is your next president.
Like it or not, that is the future.
I say, old chap…some scones and tea before cricket?
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:35 AM
I haven’t even gotten to vote in this election yet. Sad.
Dave Shay on January 20, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Well according to voters who were going to vote for Romney, they switched to McLiar because it was “his turn”.
Forget principles and records.
It is all about whose turn it is.
SimplyKimberly on January 20, 2008 at 12:38 AM
If memory serves, that is precisely what the Stupid Party did when they nominated Bob Dole as the candidate for president in the 1996 election.
We all know how that ended.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:44 AM
Saying that if Fred drops out then Hillary is the next President is hardly a daring prediction. But what the heck, I’ll give you credit for it. I’m not exactly sure why people think the gentleman who did not run a campaign well enough (and thus didn’t get his message out enough) to mobilize conservatives could do so on a national scale, but forget the reality, dreams die hard.
No, I’m not obtuse, I just don’t care when people are intellectually lazy and just my nom de plume to try to make a point. Alamo: I think my statement is clear enough. Politics is a give and take, not a proverbial Alamo. If the comparison confuses you because of your travels, make it Custer’s last stand then. I read doubt addition words are needed here.
Yes, it is. But some people here have earned generosity when faced with loss. That is big picture, the nation is, in fact, a conglomerate of individuals. The collective will will again speak in November.
Spirit of 1776 on January 20, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Chin up, Dave! If Thompson drops out you can exercise your right this coming November and vote for either Hillary or the candidate who will lose to her.
Paging Mr. Hobson…paging Mr. Thomas Hobson. Your presence is requested in the voting booth.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:51 AM
There is an ineffable charm to your incoherence. The collective (are we Bolsheviks? Borg, perhaps?)will, indeed, “speak” in November.
Actually, a minority of them will vote. And a majority of that minority will ensure that Medusa takes residence in the Oval Office.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 12:59 AM
“Why I Can’t Stand Huck”
I’ll give a few examples, but will take liberty to add the reactions they spurred in me:
1) “It’s just a BOOKCASE!” (OH, BULLS**T. Quit lyin’.)
2) “Metamucil” (Uncalled for, overly personal Low blow. If you’re gonna say that about Fred, say it for McCain too. He’s 6 years older than Fred is.)
3) “Mormons believe Satan is the brother of..”
I have friends who are LDS who assure me this isn’t the case. I haven’t read enough of the Book of Mormon to determine this for sure yet for myself, so I’ll waver on this one. I still think it was wrong of him to do that. It was a FEAR-based tactic, not a FAITH-based one. And that really bothers me. A LOT.)
4) “I’ll send all illegal aliens home”. (Quit pandering just for votes ya suckup.)
Doesn’t look to me like behavior a claimed disciple of Christ would engage in.
Shirotayama on January 20, 2008 at 1:00 AM
Don’t forget about punching the hippies. :-)
Laura on January 20, 2008 at 1:01 AM
I actually think a moderate RINO like McCain probably has better chances of beating Hillary and/or than a conservative like Mitt or Fred. But, I don’t think you should be freaking out about McCain winning SC. Sure, he’ll get the free press from the MSM for a few days and maybe get a boost in a few meaningless polls, but I would bet on the fact that one of the two conservatives in this race wins the nomination. I know I was down on Fred earlier in the night, but after looking at his numbers in other, larger big delegate states he can still pull it off. If only Mitt and Fred could run as a single entity for the nomination and then in the general as running mates. It would unite the Republican wing of the Republican party under one candidate and defeat McCain and Huck.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 1:02 AM
Wasn’t that on a Hugh Hewitt t-shirt?
Anyways, I think TWO Republicans do get it. Mitt and Fred.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 1:04 AM
Collective in this use is an adjective not a noun. Perhaps you prefer – ‘the aggregate will’. Either way, point remains.
Well, we are veering OT but I will merely add the comment even when the majority choose not to vote, their will is to allow someone else to decide for them. I think that vastly preferable to a system of mandated voting of course, but it still all folds in together to create the mosaic of American opinion.
Spirit of 1776 on January 20, 2008 at 1:07 AM
I never said it was daring, ghost. Only inevitable.
Puhleeeeeze. If anything, Fred Thompson is the exception to the Mencken Rule: he may, in fact, go broke (politically) underestimating the intelligence of the Republican voters – at least, the morons who comprise the Republican electorate in SC.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 1:09 AM
What he needs to do is educate the voters on the backgrounds of Mike Huckabee and John McCain. If I had a clean slate of knowledge on the candidates I don’t know who I’d support. Huckabee is pretty damn charismatic.
malan89 on January 20, 2008 at 1:12 AM
I’ll just leave you with a little nugget to ponder.. once upon a time there was this bloody border war that was fought to secure the sovereignty of Texas and the man that came to our rescue … in the 11th hour … was also a former Tennessean Congressman, and Governor, a first generation American Statesman .. The likeness in demeanor to Fred Thompson is uncanny… ;)
Keep the FAITH!
Texas Gal on January 20, 2008 at 1:18 AM
You said this thread was dead. The moment I’m gone, you throw a party?
theregoestheneighborhood on January 20, 2008 at 1:50 AM
Uh yeah, I’m real confident Fred, the man who keeps getting slaughtered by Ron Paul could beat Hillary Clinton. Puh-leeze, how many states are Fredheads going to call liberal until Fred wins one?
Add these states in the RINO/liberal column:
Wyoming (RINO MITT!)
Iowa (RINO HUCK!)
New Hampshire (RINO MCCAIN!)
Michigan (RINO MITT!)
Nevada (RINO MITT!)
South Carolina (RINO MCCAIN!)
If only the entire populations of 6 states weren’t so full of f’ing RINOS!
I guess SC is just as infested with liberals as New Hamphire.
Which is precisely why I laugh at Fredheads. Fred doesn’t win? Blow it off. That state is liberal. Stay away!
I think by the end of this, Fredheads will be drunk from the beer after realizing all 50 of the United States are liberal for not drinking the Fred Kool-Aid.
BKennedy on January 20, 2008 at 2:15 AM
I’d rather have a drop of Fred’s Kool-Aid than the bucket fulls of BS that are being shoveled out by the other candidates. Romney can always FLIP burgers or FLIP pancakes for his contribution.
I’ll vote “R” in November but I’ll be holding my nose.
Mojave Mark on January 20, 2008 at 2:23 AM
Your bulls*** never stops. I’d like you to quote all the posts that dismiss South Carolina as a liberal state. The only thing I’ve heard aside from “Conservative” and “Evangelical” is that it’s got a lot of love for the military, hence McCain’s advantage.
MadisonConservative on January 20, 2008 at 2:34 AM
Dangit. I hit Fred’s tip jar and I jinxed him.
Perhaps I should donate to Huckabee. My support is the kiss of friggin death.
sulla on January 20, 2008 at 2:50 AM
I will stick with the wisdom of the Rush. In all the above states you listed independents and Dems could vote. When McCain starting waving his enviro wacko sign do you think he was trying to get the conservative vote? In the conservative southern states, with closed primaries, a different picture will emerge.
Fred!
RobertInAustin on January 20, 2008 at 8:29 AM
667
RushBaby on January 20, 2008 at 9:01 AM
Your ignorance of political science is appalling. Perhaps if you studies a bit more and brayed a bit less, you might – just might – begin to understand what’s going on.
Thompson made no concerted effort to campaign in Wyoming; the Iowa caucuses are a joke and most educated students of politics understand this; in New Hampshire the process is open to voters of non-Republican affiliations. Most of McCain’s support came from the sub-species of political retard known colloquially as “independents.” And so forth.
You need to go back and reference my opening remark in which I paraphrased Mencken. Then ponder it for a bit. Hopefully you won’t continue to bloviate like your rotund namesake from Massachusetts.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:06 AM
I disagree, Malan. If history is any guide, conservatism always wins at the national level (and, in a great many cases, at the state level. In the 2006 mid-terms, it was moderate and liberal Republicans – the ones who colluded with Democrats on so many issues – who got whomped at the polls. Note also that the Democrats were clever enough to ensure that only right-leaning candidates ran for Congress). For a detailed analysis, read my 11:39 post above.
I never said he coudn’t. Given the state of flux in which this race still exists, it’s entirely possible that the other candidates could so damage themselve and each other that Fred is the last man standing.
It’s a delicious fantasy, but one that will never become a reality unless Fred is at the top of the ticket. He offered his services as president and, based on everything I have heard from him and read about him, I seriously doubt he would accept the second violin chair in the next orchestra. He didn’t go to all the trouble of carefully delineating and explaining all of his policy positions in papers published on his website only to have them ignored, or worse, trampled underfoot by Romney. On the other hand, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that he would choose Romney as his running mate.
NemoParticularis on January 20, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Thinking on history…
In 1860 the candidate chosen to be the nominee at the Republican convention was fourth in delegates and only won one state (his home state)… He won at the convention because he was the only candidate that was acceptable to all the wings of the party. This candidate later became President… his name was Abe Lincoln. A case can be made that only Fred Thompson is acceptable to all wings of the party. I think this is why he should stay in until the convention.
Fred!
RobertInAustin on January 20, 2008 at 10:15 AM
For what its worth, I’ll still exercise my right to vote in my state’s Primary on Super Tuesday. If my guy doesn’t survive the Convention, I’ll hold my nose and vote “R”(ino) in November.
November is too important to sit out. Number one reason for me: judges.
There’s a large number of judiciary appointments that the Senate is still refusing to confirm. Does anybody know the current number still being held up in the Senate? I’m guessing it is safe to assume that Skeletor Reid will still be running the Senate next year. What are the odds that McShamnesty and the other “gang of comp(R)omise(R)s” would filibuster to hold up Her Thighness’s or The Messiah’s nominees? I’d guess slim to none.
Dave Shay on January 20, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Yes. Thanks, McVain! Hope the media tongue bath was worth it!
Laura on January 20, 2008 at 12:40 PM
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