Mexican state whines about influx of Mexican workers
posted at 6:52 pm on January 19, 2008 by Bryan
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Here’s the story. When I came to this section, I lol’d.
A delegation of nine state legislators from Sonora was in Tucson on Tuesday to say Arizona’s new employer sanctions law will have a devastating effect on the Mexican state.
At a news conference, the legislators said Sonora – Arizona’s southern neighbor, made up of mostly small towns – cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools it will face as illegal Mexican workers here return to their hometowns without jobs or money.
Now they know what it’s been like north of the border.
“How can they pass a law like this?” asked Mexican Rep. Leticia Amparano Gamez, who represents Nogales.
“There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or relative working in Arizona,” she said in Spanish.
Well, that’s the problem, isn’t it. Rep. Gamez earns an epic fail. And so will Mexico if it can’t figure out how to take care of its own citizens without exporting them.
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Yo no comprende los cosas.
Mcguyver on January 19, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Hey, I have an idea. Let’s nominate McCain who will give into Mexico’s every demand.
davenp35 on January 19, 2008 at 6:55 PM
That’s easy, Senora Baggadouche! It’s OUR country.
Maybe we should use the techniques that their country uses for illegals form Guatemala. How does that sound?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 19, 2008 at 6:57 PM
OR…..how about a trade-off.
How about they turn over their all of the oil to us instead?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 19, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Well, the potential downside from border enforcement is social upheaval in Mexico (no safety valve; no US dollars sent back) leading to a Hugo Chavez-like or Fidel Castro-like figure rising to power. “The Norte Americanos es malo.”
That’ll make the past influx from their look like a family picnic.
It’s always sumpthing.
SteveMG on January 19, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Classic.
Valiant on January 19, 2008 at 7:00 PM
The ruling class ethnic cleansers in Mexico don’t like it when the Indios and Mezclados that they thought they got rid of come back.
MB4 on January 19, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Schadenfreude.
In other news, a border patrol agent was struck and killed by a vehicle that crossed the border into California illegally.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,324107,00.html
fusionaddict on January 19, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Ahh, the double whammy for Sonora, increased demand for services with the returning workers and a loss of income from the remittances. Hmm, sounds vaguely like increased demand for services from illegal immigrants and depressed wages from an increased supply of unskilled and low skilled laborers.
Here’s a thought, why not figure out why there’s jobs in Arizona but not in Sonora and fix that?
trubble on January 19, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Come on. This story merits a pic of red meat no?
mred on January 19, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Bummerito.
Yeah, but think about how nice your lawns are going to look in a few months.
fogw on January 19, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Ay, que LASTIMA!!
(Oh, what a PITY!)
…Now maybe they get an inkling of what they’ve been doing to US! I sure wish these Arizona laws get copied by many other states. I’m all for legal immigration…my own grandparents on both sides immigrated here. NOBODY has the “right” to come into any country illegally. And saying that isn’t racism. It’s all about fair treatment. If MY relatives had to come in the legal way, EVERYBODY’S should, is how I feel about it. Let some liberal come here and call THAT…a desire for equal fairness….a racist viewpoint. And if they do…I wanna hear WHY they think it’s racist…’coz it’s NOT.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 7:16 PM
How pathetic. Has there ever been a more worthless government? They make ours look positively effective. Well, ok, maybe that’s being a little overly generous.
Regardless, I have nothing but disdain for that country. Someday, someone is going to have to tell them to grow up and start acting like a sovereign nation. Honestly, it’s like they’re America’s thirty something child living in our basement.
Grayson on January 19, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Sweet. This made my day!
I heard on the radio today that it is suddenly almost impossible to find enough workers for construction jobs in Tulsa, so they’re trying to recruit local vo-tech and college students, and construction “prices” — i.e., wages — are going higher. On the radio yesterday, I heard that 20,000 Mexicans had left the Tulsa area (out of an “undocumented community” of about 50,000 in a city of 400,000). Related to our new workplace enforcement laws…?
elladeon on January 19, 2008 at 7:20 PM
So, how did Sonora handle the demand before the immigrants left in the first place?
This is not a problem for Arizona, or for the US, for that matter. Mexican solutions to Mexican problems!
fourstringfuror on January 19, 2008 at 7:22 PM
I just can`t believe they`d say that……I just can`t, it sounds too-I mean what the….Wait a minute, they actually (head explodes)
ThePrez on January 19, 2008 at 7:23 PM
For some reason, I just pictured trying to put a raw egg back into its shell.
Ugly on January 19, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Oh, c’mon now…there must be jobs in Sonora that Americans won’t do!
flipflop on January 19, 2008 at 7:26 PM
You know you’ve had too much internet when… ;)
madne0 on January 19, 2008 at 7:26 PM
Que lastima!
Ja Ja Ja Ja Ja Ja
pobrecito cabrones mexicanos!
Wind Rider on January 19, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Why, don’t they know the combined cost of health care, free food,housing and education is more than offset by cheap labor.
Since Mexico doesn’t doesn’t care one bit about free anything they should be really happy to get fresh cheap labor.
Apparently hypocrisy is the national motto south of the border.
If the pressure climbs high enough they can Vive La Revelucion!
This time they can legislate some anti trust laws.
Speakup on January 19, 2008 at 7:27 PM
By doing what Mexicans cannot do, that’s how.
Mcguyver on January 19, 2008 at 7:29 PM
I’m sure the next thing we’ll hear is that they were manufactured for this market.
Speakup on January 19, 2008 at 7:30 PM
the irony is………priceless
Janos Hunyadi on January 19, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Maybe Mexican Rep. Leticia Amparano Gamez can ask her Congress how it was done — Mexico has one quite like it on a national level.
Dusty on January 19, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Reminds me of someone who has snuck into Disneyland without paying then bitches about the price of the admission and demands a refund.
repvoter on January 19, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Facepalm.
PolitiNOOB on January 19, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Dirty little secret.
RushBaby on January 19, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Oh. My. God. This is hysterical. What hypocrisy!
stonemeister on January 19, 2008 at 7:40 PM
mred on January 19, 2008 at 7:10 PM
No, I like the shiny brass balls better. That says it all.
cjs1943 on January 19, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Little… tears… dripping… down… cheeks…
Well, at least they know the language.
29Victor on January 19, 2008 at 7:45 PM
Nah, more like trying push water up hill with a stick.
broker1 on January 19, 2008 at 7:46 PM
No worries, Hillary Care will extend to the Annexed state of Mexico.
Egfrow on January 19, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Schadenfreude is right. God, I love this. Reminds me of the bully, can dish it out but can’t take it.
OT – what does iirc mean? I can’t decypher that one. Thanks.
cjs1943 on January 19, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Of course Mexican politicians are going to whine & probably go nuts.
They’re afraid they are going to have to clean up their system and fix their problems instead of shipping them to the U.S.
29Victor on January 19, 2008 at 7:50 PM
I’m sure Spittle Geraldo is on his way for an “exclusive” interview with the Mexican whiners.
Zorro on January 19, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Waaahhhaaaahahahahahahaha
peski on January 19, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Correction: It’s Rep. Gamez not Gomez.
terryannonline on January 19, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Bummer, Mexico will actually have to take care of its own citizens. Radical concept.
katieanne on January 19, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Carne Roja
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Then how are those poor bastarrds gonna get free health care and low cost college. this is an outrage!
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Hmmm, let’s see….
Hows ’bout, your citizens, your problem?
And if it were to become federal law?
Would Rep. Gamez make Mexican citizens “illegal” in Mexico too?
G-man on January 19, 2008 at 8:09 PM
So, reading between the lines, is sounds like Rep. Leticia Amparano is actually saying, “Ay caramba. There are too many Mexicans in Mexico.”
Now they know how we feel.
God Bless America.
madmonkphotog on January 19, 2008 at 8:10 PM
Yup. My bad. Fixed.
Bryan on January 19, 2008 at 8:11 PM
OH BOO-HOO!!!!
Bullboski on January 19, 2008 at 8:16 PM
What’s that? You don’t *like* the taste of your own medicine? Getting floods of low-skilled, disease-carrying lawbreakers isn’t FUN?!?
How’s it feel to be on the receiving end for once — like we’ve been for the past SIXTY YEARS?
Dark-Star on January 19, 2008 at 8:17 PM
it might be that if large numbers of mexicans who have seen relatively honest government went home and saw what they actually have in mexico there might be a certain “regiem change” shall we say.
C
pk on January 19, 2008 at 8:21 PM
What happened to the “giant sucking sound” of NAFTA sending jobs to Mexico?
Mark1971 on January 19, 2008 at 8:23 PM
We don’t need to wait for the knuckleheads in DC to make this law nationwide. The states can do it on their own, just like AZ. Nothing like good old fashioned Constitutionalism (I know it’s not a word, but it fits).
mogilla on January 19, 2008 at 8:30 PM
If he had tried defending himself with his gun he would have risked being prosecuted by Bush’s Justice Dept.
Mark1971 on January 19, 2008 at 8:34 PM
Don’t you worry ‘backs’. When ‘white trash Willy’ & his wife or Barracko or Cain, oops, McCain or Hucklberry Finn get in, they’ll be sure and put it back like it was. You’ll get your free education, thru college, free medical & dental and plenty of welfare money for you & the relations south of the border. America has lots of money. Whoever of the above gets elected I’m sure will make mexican our new official language and make everybody learn it so you feel at home. Hillary might even give you a free condo in town, to be close to your job, and a summer home in thre Hamptons and maybre a few hundred thousand dollars to get you by till you’re settled here. The voters this year will show how sorry they feel for your hardship now and will make it right. What a bunch of crap, huh. Who cares what the mexicans in Nogales think. Rest assured tho, if any of the above get elected – there ain’t gonna be a fence!
countywolf on January 19, 2008 at 8:35 PM
We should capture as many illegals as we can either already here or at the border. When we deport them we should hand them an M16 with a full, 30 round magazine and tell them …
Go Fix Your Own Damn Government !!!
BowHuntingTexas on January 19, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Loved the big brass balls!
dawgyear on January 19, 2008 at 9:14 PM
ROTFISLWTOJSDMF (rolling on the floor in spasmodic laughter, with tears of joy streaming down my face).
And to the Sonora delegation: DLTDHYITAOTWO.
Another success story to add to my collection of the correct policy, Attrition Through Enforcement, working in four states so far.
McCain: N.B. We do NOT need to “legalize” 12 million illegal aliens – they’ll get the message, as long as you enforce the freakin’ law.
fred5678 on January 19, 2008 at 9:16 PM
Be of good cheer … it’s already working in four states , more to come. Only 46 to go, althoug maybe HI may be safe for a while, And AK, too. Make that 44.
And if the states “do the job Bush and Congress won’t do” maybe we’ll get lucky and have the problem solved before McCain, Rudy, or a Dem. push for shamnesty next year.
fred5678 on January 19, 2008 at 9:22 PM
You know a country is screwed up when its leaders start to have hissy fits about too many citizens actually living within the country…defies all logic, but then again we’re talking about Mexico here.
greekinfidel on January 19, 2008 at 10:20 PM
No seriously. What did she really say?
TexasDan on January 19, 2008 at 10:29 PM
I have to press #1 for English at our Jack in the Box near Katy, TX. I am afraid that there is no such thing as a conservative in TX state politics. Apparently our state has already be sold to Mexico by Rick Perry.
rgranger on January 19, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Law passed.
Illegals returned.
Chalupa dropped!
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 10:32 PM
cjs1943- “if I remember correctly”
BillH on January 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Thanks, BillH.
cjs1943 on January 19, 2008 at 10:47 PM
This reminds of when Vicente Fox came on the Oreilly factor and was saying that Mexicans have a right to work in the U.S. I was stunned by his audacity. The more I learned about the mexican gov’s machine that enables and encourages their citizens to cross the border, work and send money back to the madreland. 3rd largest source of income for Mexico.. US dollars wired back by illegals. We’ve gotta shake these pests quick.
whiskeytango on January 19, 2008 at 10:54 PM
I actually lived in Sonora and in Nogales where this story takes place. Nogales is a border town, a lot of illegals who get deported or deport themselves, end up in Nogales. It would be tough having them dumped on any city, but Nogales is known for rampant crime and drug problems with little economic growth and this is magnified by the immigration problem.
Imagine having about 5-600 American ex-patriots dumped into your hometown without any jobs or family to support them every week. It’d destroy your economy. That’s what it’s like for them.
It’s not Nogales’ or Sonora’s fault that people cross illegally, but they sure bear the brunt of the burden for those people’s actions and have a legtimate complaint no matter how ironic it sounds.
Luckedout on January 19, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Whiskey Tango,
Not deliberately wanting to be a snit but I’ll unfortunately come across as one anyhoo.
Actually, “Padreland” would be more accurate. Homeland in spanish is “Patria” which literally, means “Fatherland”.
Which also, when translated into English, unfortunately has an unpleasant whiff of a “third reich” ring it.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Luckedout,
My sympathy level is nonexistant. In the county where I live we spend over ONE BILLION dollars on illegals health care, welfare, food stamps, schooling etc. all because our federal government and my county government has decided not to enforce the immigration laws. Oh, let us not forget the deaths due to illegals driving drunk and smashing into people, illegals killing and robbing etc.
Cry me a river….
Nahanni on January 19, 2008 at 11:49 PM
As a resident of Arizona the Mexican politicans can kiss our backsides…..And I say this as a man married to a Mexican National that came here legally, worked hard to learn English, and is now a U.S. Citizen with a college education.
The system works when used the right way….Legally
azcop on January 19, 2008 at 11:50 PM
That’s a lot of el toro caca
SouthernGent on January 19, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Mexico is so corrupt and run like a mafia operation that the businesses that left here for there packed up and moved to various pacific rim locations.
Speakup on January 20, 2008 at 12:16 AM
True. They were called “Maquiladoras” weren’t they?
Mostly cheap labor used for mindless assembly of high-value-added components built elsewhere (US, Japan, Korea, Germany, etc.)
Shirotayama on January 20, 2008 at 12:55 AM
Let me explain in Spanish so you will understand:
Takeo youro illegalo counttymeno outo ofo ouro countryo ke dealo witho themo ino youro countryo you el stupido grande bitch!!!!!!!!!!
Got it? Good, now vamoos!!
There is a reason we are first world and Mexico is third world heading at warp speed into fourth world status.
Bubba Redneck on January 20, 2008 at 1:29 AM
I’m sure as we speak, Johnny Sutton is working on suing the border patrol agent’s estate for damages to the vehicle.
tballard on January 20, 2008 at 1:31 AM
Good fences and deep moats and tough immigration enforcement and harsh penalties really do make good neighbors.
Now, about that Chavez……
Bubba Redneck on January 20, 2008 at 1:35 AM
What a clear indication of how badly the feds have been rolling over every time some Mexican official whines about something. Now, a state passes a law, and they can’t believe anyone here might take their illegal border jumping seriously.
By the way, as for housing, perhaps they could offer some subprime mortgages to their returning citizens like they were offered here.
91Veteran on January 20, 2008 at 1:47 AM
…serving as a representative of Nogales.
91Veteran on January 20, 2008 at 1:53 AM
Cue soundtrack of baby crying.
Overlap with old M*A*S*H laughtrack.
I will be writing to my guvnuh about implementing the same law here in Louisiana.
LickyLicky on January 20, 2008 at 3:50 AM
WELCOME to your naturalized wife, and (assuming you are in law enforcement in AZ) thanks for your service.
Hopefully, the example of your state, plus OK, TN, and GA, will get attention in Congress this year as the way to go.
McCain, et al, drive me insane when they ignore the will of the American people and flip us the bird.
fred5678 on January 20, 2008 at 5:09 AM
I’m trying to squeeze out some tears…maybe if I drink a lot of water…hmmm…nope. No tears rolling down my cheeks yet. Maybe if I wasn’t laughing at their stupidity so hard it would be easier. I’ll keep trying.
MannyT-vA on January 20, 2008 at 5:57 AM
How can they pass a law like this?” asked Mexican Rep. Leticia Amparano Gamez, who represents Nogales.
Ludicrous, pure and ……….
jerrytbg on January 20, 2008 at 7:11 AM
I think our problem with these foreign nationals invading our country will soon be over.
All these people looking the other way will rethink their position when we have 20% unemployment nationwide.
I bet we’ll have a WPA/CCC type work project to build that fence then.
TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 7:28 AM
On the count of three…
One
Two
Three
BOO FREAKIN’ HOO!!!
hillbillyjim on January 20, 2008 at 7:33 AM
TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 7:28 AM
we can hope.
jerrytbg on January 20, 2008 at 7:44 AM
I thought they were shiny cajones….
darkpixel on January 20, 2008 at 8:48 AM
“There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or relative working in Arizona,”
Soon they won’t be able to say this! Heh.
Kevin M on January 20, 2008 at 9:33 AM
Mexico has plenty of land there really isn’t any reason those returning back to move farther south into touristy areas such as Acapulco, Puerto Vallarta, or Cancun. There are plenty of Brits and Germans who vacation in those parts and spend “muy dinero!” Then again Mexicans are very territorial and they don’t even trust each other!
kiakjones on January 20, 2008 at 9:40 AM
It would be great if Mexico could pull itself up and live up to thepromise of its potential.
jeanie on January 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM
I reject the premise that it’s the obligation of any government to take care of its citizens (or another country’s citizens) if that means socialized solutions. I suppose that part of the problem in this regard is being solved by Arizona by rejecting this premise.
One would think that Mexico would give capitalism a better try. What an opportunity for businesses to take advantage of the influx of Mexican workers. As long as those businesses aren’t in fear of being nationalized by Mexico, it’d be great for them.
threeCents on January 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM
How does one say chutzpah in Spanish?
soundingboard on January 20, 2008 at 11:20 AM
This is what I really despise:
Whose fault is this? Who was the freaking genius who fails to think the problem through?
And mostly- why does this have to become OUR problem?
It’s NOT our problem. It’s THEIR problem.
If they want to live with split families, then let them! But in doing so it would speak volumes about the kind of people we’re speaking about.
drjohn on January 20, 2008 at 11:42 AM
Haven’t there been reports that because so many have jumped the border to work in the U.S. that Mexico was having it’s own shortage of skilled workers? And, they were trying to come up with ideas to replace them? Well now, have we got a deal for them. When they can absorb about 50% of the ones that have lived here illegally for years, I’ll consider playing the tourist down there again.
As far as leaving a spouse and house full of kids for the taxpayer to support here, have to agree with drjohn it does speak volumnes about character and the much abused “family values” our elected critters keep throwing out.
24K lady on January 20, 2008 at 12:16 PM
I hear birds singing
Did any Americans realize free trade would include exporting workers?
The net result of free trade between Mexico and the US:
1. Wealthy businessese in the US made a lot of money selling consumer goods to Mexico
2. Wealthy businesses in the US made an ungodly volcano of profit by replacing American citizen workers with illegal Mexican workers for service jobs, and to manufacture goods to sell to the world
3. The American worker, many displaced by illegals, retained his legal and tax obligations as a citizen while being required to shoulder the legal and tax obligations of the illegal workers
4. In the final battle to preserve the system politicians are attempting to give votes to the imported workers
The lower middle class American household has gone from households where both parents worked to households where many parents work two jobs. I have witnessed workers in $8 an hour jobs rush to their second job, the one that buys food
They have tried to brainwash us to think we cannot run our nation by law.
E pluribus unum is our battle cry. One nation from many, not many nations from one!
entagor on January 20, 2008 at 1:00 PM
The world’s population may double by 2050 and virtually all of the population increase will be in developing countries. Already, there are many such countries exporting manual labor to the developed world and who rely on remittances sent home to stave off unrest. Mexico would be a basket case if all the illegals returned home, and the troubles in southern Mexico, where people can’t work in factories along the US border, would spread everywhere. The mass migration of people out of poverty stricken areas into the developed world has been ongoing for years now, and will only get worse.
NNtrancer on January 20, 2008 at 1:01 PM
Juanita Macarana
TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Maybe on the way back they can take some of this with them.
AZ_Mike on January 20, 2008 at 1:55 PM
That’s truly disgusting. Looks like a landfill.
txsurveyor on January 20, 2008 at 3:01 PM
It’s been replaced by the smells of fried rice and curry.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 20, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Sure does. Meanwhile, the environmentalist wackos are trying to get the fence stopped because it will cause “harm” to the area. They say nothing about all the trash, human waste, etc. that the illegals leave that is choking the desert around the border.
AZ_Mike on January 20, 2008 at 5:17 PM
I say keep it up and get them all back there (unless they’re abiding by our laws, of course). And if they radiclaize and threaten us, then we bomb them like Afghanistan!
urbancenturion on January 20, 2008 at 11:41 PM
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