Fox News, AP call it for McCain; Update: Huck blames Fred for loss?
posted at 9:19 pm on January 19, 2008 by Allahpundit
He’s the presumptive nominee now, especially with Rudy fading. How do you feel?
Update (Bryan): I feel like it’s hard to see either McCain or Huckabee winning the nomination. Huckabee can’t win in South Carolina, a southern state with a heavy evangelical contingent. McCain won overall but doesn’t appear to have won among conservatives, again. So the top two finishers in SC carry very limited appeal.
The question is, who can unify these voters under the conservative party’s banner?
Update: The good news: Huckabee’s basically done. The breakdown:
He can’t win among non-evangelicals. This makes Florida essentially a three-man race between McCain, Mitt, and Rudy, with Huckabee still around to pull votes from Romney among social cons.
Update: Huckabee’s at the podium now taking veiled digs at Mitt by congratulating McCain on not doing any negative campaigning.
Update: Have a look at the recent Florida polls. What do you think they’ll look like this week? To put it another way, is this the end for Rudy?
Update: A noble defeat:
It’s clear who Huckabee camp is blaming for its squeaker of a loss in South Carolina: Fred Thompson.
After Huckabee’s gracious concession speech — in which he had nothing but kind words for John McCain who he said showed great “civility” — former SC Gov. David Beasley, a Huckabee surrogate, railed against Thompson.
“Fred hurt us in South Carolina,” Beasley began. “He had one goal and one goal only — to distort Mike Huckabee’s record so John McCain could pull it out. No ifs, ands or buts about it….
“One thing about Fred; I love Fred, but Fred’s not stupid….I don’t think he had any intention in South Carolina but to hurt Mike Huckabee…. Had Fred Thompson not been in the race, this would have been an overwhelming, dynamic victory for Mike Huckabee.”
McCain’s team also thinks Fred was the difference.
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You guys are overreacting. At least it’s not Huckabee. McCain is far from perfect, and I’d rather Romney win. But if it comes down to McCain and Clinton/Obama..you’re crazy if you don’t vote for ole king RINO.
therightwinger on January 19, 2008 at 10:42 PM
You are really taking it hard about Fred. Watch a movie or something but get some fresh air…
Bradky on January 19, 2008 at 10:42 PM
That was an amnesty, which Reagan said was one of his biggest mistakes, of a few million.
The Juan Plantation McVano Grand Slamo Samnesty-plus would be for tens of millions!
Entiendes la diferencia?
MB4 on January 19, 2008 at 10:43 PM
ten to one its Tim Pawlenty
Micheal on January 19, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Rush Limbaugh is probably drunk right now. lol
froghat on January 19, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Sure he did. Reagan was a compromiser – he had to be, to work with a democrat congress.
1982 tax increases (twice)
1983 social security tax increase
1984 tax increase
1985 tax increase
He was promised spending decreases to go along with them, but they never happened.
lorien1973 on January 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Well if voting for Juan Sellout McVano is sane, then sanity is highly overrated.
MB4 on January 19, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Or principled.
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 10:45 PM
So you’d rather give Hillary who WILL give amnesty and Health Care to Illegals rather than McCain who will only give amnesty ? (Hoping that the party puts in the platform a provision to prevent this)
William Amos on January 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM
This isn’t about Fred, its about damage being done to the conservative movement.
doubleplusundead on January 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM
People are talking a LOT about Rush and who he endorses.
Or even Hannity or Levin.
Do the radio guys still wield the influence they used to, and that a lot of us still THINK they wield?
I have to wonder.
Rush and Hannity and Levin are ALL committed Reagan conservatives.
And yet, despite the fact that pretty much both Rush and Levin, and to a lesser extent Hannity, have been relatively down on McCain, Mac’s still scoring serious wins.
If anybody’s LISTENING to these radio shows, the hosts don’t seem to be influencing voter behavior. It’s as if a whole different set of priorities has taken over the lot of a majority of Republican voters. Priorities that I can’t figure for the life of me. What’s driving all this voting for McCain? It just doesn’t figure for me.
Even IF Rush and Hannity and Levin all fall in line behind the same candidate…I’m starting to wonder if it’d even matter….?
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Nobody is going to attack McCain. They are too afraid of his Shield of Invulnerability also known as his veteran status. That is a bunch of horse hockey. You can respect his service and still attack on the issues. Haven’t the Dems been saying for years how you can support the soldier but not the mission?
McCain is Dem Lite® plain and simple. I think he has co sponsored more bills with Ted Kennedy then he has any Republican with the Ghamnesty.
Just A Grunt on January 19, 2008 at 10:47 PM
If Mccain or Huckabee wins the bid, there will be alot of conservatives sitting this one out. I forsee a future where we will fondly remember the Jimmy Carter days.
conservativegrandma on January 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Or Fred could do what every other cndnidate in election history has ever done: raised funds for the long-term instead of living primary to primary.
Don’t blame Romney’s wealth for Fred’s ineptitude. Huck managed to get a go with little money and Rudy is still sitting fairly well with money.
Sorry your man Fred lost FloatingRock, really, but you’re delusional if you think the candidates who did better than him in varying degrees in every single race are somehow spoilers for Fred’s campaign. Sorry we couldn’t crown Fred king, but the fact is he didn’t run as well as anyone else.
BKennedy on January 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
by this time you’re supposed to be past stage 1 of kubler-ross.
csdeven on January 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Stop the circular firing squad!
Join Rudy!
Chakra Hammer on January 19, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Question for you guys: Everyone talks about how we need a better communicator than Bush in the White House. Is it just me or does McCain seem like an even worse communicator than Bush? He’s not good at giving speeches, comes off as grumpy – bad temper, and sometimes comes off a flat out creepy. It’s a bit ironic that we’re about to elect another guy who’s not media savy. hmmmm
froghat on January 19, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Well I think Huck spoiled it for Fred. So there.
amkun on January 19, 2008 at 10:49 PM
I would not trust Juan Plantation McVano to lead me across the street in a one dog town in the middle of the night.
MB4 on January 19, 2008 at 10:50 PM
We have reached the day which the prophet had in mind when he wrote, “Woe unto them who call evil, good, and good, evil.” (Isaiah 5:20)
apacalyps on January 19, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Join Rudy?
C’mon. I actually LIKE Hizzoner but face facts: The guy’s going NOWHERE fast. Media’s barely paying attention to him anymore. Florida is the test – - HIS CRUCIAL TEST – - since if Rudy loses Florida to any degree less than 2nd place, he’s a goner. Fork-stuck-in-him-DONE.
I actually rooted for Rudy first, was really happy with the way he cleaned up NYC.
And then I gave Fred a serious listen, and am totally bummed he’s not doing better.
I guess if I have to pick a 3rd, I’d go for Romney, 4th McCain.
I have such an equal visceral, in-the-gut dislike for Huck, it’s nearly as bad as the one I have for Hillary.
I must be allergic to Arkansas.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Mccain is known for his short temper and holding grudges. Can you imagine him in a debate with any of the democrat candidates? He doesn’t communicate, he barks
conservativegrandma on January 19, 2008 at 10:52 PM
And that is when he is able to restrain himself.
MB4 on January 19, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Did you guys see Robert Novak on Fox News? Boy, I hate this guy along with Peggy Noonon. They come off as so snooty. I can imagine them at home drinking a glass of wine repeating “I’m the greatest” over and over until they pass out.
froghat on January 19, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Maybe if Fred invested more energy and didn’t view the conservative movement as just an expendable meal ticket to personal power, so much “damage” wouldn’t have been done.
As it stands, nobody even knew who Fred was before he started his candidacy, and if they did, they knew him as that guy on Law and Order. That he’s better known for pretending to be other people than for being a reliable conservative in the Senate speaks volume.
Fredheads have ascribed a totally unreasonable amount of hero worship on Fred. They have welled all their hopes into his candidacy, to the point they identify him with the movement itself.
This is despite the fact Tancredo and Hunter are still around, as well as many other real conservatives.
BKennedy on January 19, 2008 at 10:53 PM
AAAARGGHHHHH!!!!
People we’re electing a COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF and NOT a PASTOR-IN-CHIEF!!!!
Can we discuss POLICY and not Psalms or Proverbs????
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 10:55 PM
I just don’t get it. Neither Romney nor Guliani are perfect, but they are both acceptable. And the frontrunners McCain and Huckabee are truly unacceptable…black is white and up is down and the freaking world has gone nuts. I just don’t get how clear thinking people can make such bad choices.
JustTruth101 on January 19, 2008 at 10:55 PM
The picture FOX News has of McCain on the front page is not flattering at all.
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Nevada has more delegates than S.C. this time around.
Does anyone have an accurate delegate count total for Mitt and McCain?
Buy Danish on January 19, 2008 at 10:57 PM
At least Peggy Noonan can write a reasonably logical, fairly thoughtful opinion column.
NOVAK??? All that guy is look like he’s death warmed over on TV, and leak information about Republican officials and destroy their careers. He’s like the political gossipmonger par exellence. Novak’s a PUTZ.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Right. It’s called absolute moral authority. Any attack against him and his record is perceived as an attack against his patriotism. How can you attack a man that was a POW? Uck. The whole thing makes me ill. I want to see another debate about the issues between Mitt and McLame. I don’t think Johnnie MacNgubmintqueso would have a chance without his lap poodle Huckenjive. You would see the anger that McKennedy still holds about not being the nominee in 2000. Hopefully, a debate between the two would show that Maverick does not have the temprament to be POTUS.
If Fred drops, then it’s on to Mitt first then Rudy second. Who will be left by the time they roll here into Indiana in May? Anybody? I guess my state doesn’t count….
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 19, 2008 at 10:58 PM
MEGADITTOES. What the hell happened to the world I once knew where things happened somewhat logically.
I give up.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM
It was either use that one or the one with spittle running down the side of his chin.
MB4 on January 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM
I guess Hunter speaks at the top of the hour on Fox.
csdeven on January 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM
You should check out his book at the Library “Prince of Darkness”. You would probably change your opinion of him.
Bradky on January 19, 2008 at 11:00 PM
“Shield of Invulnerability”?
What’s that? Is that anything like the “Cone of Silence”???
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Drive 2 FIVE –Help Put Rudy In The Drivers Seat.
But Remember… He Doesn’t Drive, he Navigates.. ;)
Chakra Hammer on January 19, 2008 at 11:00 PM
I just can’t stay away.
You bet there will and it will not only effect the Presidential race. Congress and Senate will go hugely democrap as well. I would not be surprised if there is a veto proof majority for President Clinton or Obama. Don’t blame me and those like me…we’ve made it clear that if a RINO like McShamnesty gets the nod we will stay home or even vote democrap. Yes, we despise McCain.
jwp1964 on January 19, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Magic Number 1,191
Romney72
McCain38
Huckabee29
Thompson8
Paul6
Giuliani2
windansea on January 19, 2008 at 11:01 PM
According to FNC reporters some voters were going to vote for Romney but then just thought that it’s was McCain’s turn (because he lost in 2000)
Really intelligent people there I tell ya.
Oh well, they were all old farts anyway.
Mcguyver on January 19, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Guys, trust me, people are gonna start attacking McCain. You can bet your last dollar, Rudy will spend half of the next debating taking shots at him. Military service has nothing to do with opposing bush tax cuts. Rudy will do that and Mitt will attack him on illegal immigration. Play time is over for McCain.
froghat on January 19, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Disenfranchised and partyless.
aero on January 19, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Agreed, and the irony that Huckabee is masquerading as “good” when he has been underhanded things in this campaign that could be called “evil” is not lost on me.
I wish Mitt would hit McCain on wanting to close Gitmo. That is not good for our national security.
Buy Danish on January 19, 2008 at 11:02 PM
This is all so depressing I am almost tempted to go over to Hugh Hewitt’s site and drink some happy juice.
MB4 on January 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Read this:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Check.asp?idArticle=14607&r=onvmn
bnelson44 on January 19, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Question: When will RuPaul drop? And where would his supporters go?
BIG QUESTION: Do we have to worry about candidate Bloomberg?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 19, 2008 at 11:04 PM
People: There’s a Republican debate before the Florida primary. McCain will get jumped on by everyone. McCain is far from winning the nomination. Hold on!
froghat on January 19, 2008 at 11:04 PM
This is utter and complete bulls***. If what you say is true, then hero worship consists of donating to his campaign, pointing out why they want Fred as opposed to the others, and refusing to respond to “Give up now! You’re sunk! Vote for my candidate instead!”
Yup, realllly unreasonable.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Conservaatives have had issues with Mccain and Huckabee for years. Mccain may have an 83% or whatever conservative rating, but the 17% he missed are core value issues, amnesty and freedom of political speech. Huck actually campaigned for democrats in Arkansas.So, sorry, absolutely cannot vote for either.
Why the bashing of fredheads? I remember Fred Thompson when he was in the senate. He was known to be a conservative voice. Mary Matalin is a Fred supporter. Rudy and Mitt may be too east coast for the rest of flyover country.
conservativegrandma on January 19, 2008 at 11:06 PM
I wonder what is next for Hunter. He’s given up his seat there. Barring an appointment in the next administration, I wonder what his plan is.
Spirit of 1776 on January 19, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Danish: Exactly. He’s an underhanded lyin’ cheatin’ SCUMBAG of a wolf deliberately clothing himself in Christian sheep’s clothing. COUNTLESS times already he’s engaged in behavior designed to WIN VOTES but which to me, is utterly, UTTERLY contradictory to the principled behavior both Christians and Jews are supposed to follow.
ALL of which leads me to conclude two things about Huck:
1) C – A – N’ – T T – R – U – S – T H – I – M
2) DITTO
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Duncan Hunter doing his impression of a speed bump. I wonder what would have happened if he had a better organization and jumped into the top tier instead of Huckabee. Oh well – couldawouldashoulda.
fiatboomer on January 19, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Well, it is Saturday night, and the monster movies are on SciFi channel.
The current crop of Republican candidates is making the movie “Resident Evil” look like Comedy Central.
Thanks for the advice.
rockhauler on January 19, 2008 at 11:09 PM
I just got an email from him asking if he could get in on my plans to colonize Mars.
MB4 on January 19, 2008 at 11:09 PM
I look forward to Attorney General Lindsey Graham!!
SouthernGent on January 19, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Fred should hang in. Insanity can only last so long.
duff65 on January 19, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Holy crap Hillary sounds like Joan Rivers
fiatboomer on January 19, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Danish,
I agree w/you about Gitmo too. We can’t afford to close that place down. A permanent playpen for high value targets outside the reach of the ACLU is an absolute necessity. HVT’s are NOT typically U.S. Citizens and are NOT due the rights of a U.S. Citizen when they’re enemy combatants. Regardless of what the cryin’ liberals think.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:10 PM
haha
Spirit of 1776 on January 19, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Argh! His turn? WTH?
:bangs head on wall:
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 11:12 PM
bet Hillary gets name of Joan’s plastic surgeon before the convention.
conservativegrandma on January 19, 2008 at 11:12 PM
I’m sorry, have you finished slinging “Romney, Huck, McCain, Guiliani, and Paul supporters aren’t true conservatives!” yes?
Is the conservative movement really dead now that Fred, the johnny-come-lately of strong conservatism has dropped out?
Because thats the comments I’ve been seeing, all of them exclusively from Fredheads. They tied the entire conservative movement part and parcel to the campaign of Frederick Dalton Thompson. They have consistently attacked the conservatism of any poster who supports anyone else, they have consistently attacked every other candidate as RINOs, in varying degrees, and they have consistently said they would rather stay home or write in Thompson as a protest vote no matter who the party nominates.
Quite frankly, that is hero worship. That is putting your eggs in one basket, and that is tying the entire movement to a single candidate. A candidate who was unknown to conservatives and conservatism before July 2007.
That is reality. I’m sorry if you don’t like it.
BKennedy on January 19, 2008 at 11:13 PM
She’ll use Nancy “Stretch” Pelosi’s surgeon if anyone’s!
SouthernGent on January 19, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Thanks. Someone was claiming that McCain had more delegates. Maybe they’re looking at S.C.’s delegate count from last year before they got cut in half for screwing around with the primary date.
Good point. I just hope that a) Fred drops out so Mitt can compete better against McCain and b) Fred doesn’t endorse his buddy McCain. If he does, the Fred Heads are going to have a lot to answer for.
Absolutely, and I agree with you about Robert Novak too :)
Mitt can also hit McCain over being the vote that lost us ability to drill in ANWR, which is another national security issue. Also his idiotic manuvering on water boarding, although that one is a bit more delicate.
Buy Danish on January 19, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Shoulda predicted this.
People voting for McCain because it’s “his turn”.
Having lived in Georgia for 8 years, it has not escaped me that many southerners have deep feelings about fair play, about people getting their due, about manners and society’s rules. Tradition is revered and I suppose if McCain is considered “due” and a more “traditional republican” maybe that’s what drove this.
I hope I’m not offending folks but I’m just trying to make sense of how the Party Inspired by Ronald Reagan even DOES this. I am truly Dazed & Confused.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:16 PM
If Mitt is the nominee, yes. Bloomberg’s associates have stated that he’s more likely to get in if “extemists” are nominated, and he’s known to be particularly concerned with Republicans’ stances on illegal immigration. He’s got that businessman thing going for him as well, and might be able to pull of independents who are attracted to that in Romney. He’d be particularly damaging to Republicans in “purple” states with large proportions of independents. Remember, the Republican candidate will need more independent votes than the Democratic candidate, in all likelihood.
Big S on January 19, 2008 at 11:16 PM
“How do you feel?”
Utterly disgusted.
MarkoMancuso on January 19, 2008 at 11:19 PM
I’ve lived in Georgia for 6 years. I also lived in SC for awhile, but there there seems to be a real internecine divide between people from Charleston and the rest of the state, something I haven’t noticed in Georgia.
Buy Danish on January 19, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Big S,
I dunno…I gotta disagree with ya on Bloomberg.
The guy’s a mayor of NYC who DIDN’T save the city, simply capitalized on Rudy’s successes. He’s openly a liberal and clearly RINO. In fact, BARELY even a RINO.
I don’t see him collecting lots of votes outside the Northeast. He’s too New Yorky for the heartland, south, or the west. Libs won’t go for him, the only ones that might possibly vote for him are the ones disenfranchised by either Hildebeest or Hussein losing out. And true conservatives just won’t vote for him. I think the only chance Bloomie has is total independents/swing voters.
Simply can’t see how Bloomy can snag sufficient momentum. I sure would never vote for the guy. I think he should just stick to selling business news and stay outta further politics once his term as mayor is up.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:22 PM
isn’t there a lot of illegal aliens in south carolina??
How is it possible that McShame could win there??
HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 11:23 PM
I think I have come up with a game plan. If Fred drops out and Ron Paul is still around on Super Tuesday I will vote for him hoping he gets enough of the vote to throw the Republican convention into a complete circus.
Just A Grunt on January 19, 2008 at 11:23 PM
I’ve never bought the argument that Thompson is the only true conservative.
He was an actor on ‘Law and Order,’ a show that continually
portrays conservatives as hypocrites. The show portrays pro-lifers and evangelicals as whackos. Any one who is not for gay marriage as a bigot. Last season they
did a show on torture and portrayed our government as bunch of torturers. And I’m suppose to believe the guy who acted in this show as the only true conservative?
terryannonline on January 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Danish,
Actually that divide DOES exist in Georgia.
As non-Atlantan Georgians are fond of saying:
“Well you have Georgia, and then you have Atlanta”.
Meaning, in damnyankeespeak “They really don’t belong to us, we’re just stuck with ‘em.”
But I’d agree with ya about SC vs. Charleston. I think that’s also the case (perhaps less so?) for SC vs. Columbia.
Greenville/Spartanburg? ANOTHER story entirely.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Mitt is an “extremist”?
Bloomberg is not a Republican that is for sure. The only reason he ran as a Republican initially was because there was no one else running on that ticket.
He is as liberal as they come, he is horrible on tax policy, he’s a worse Nanny Stater than the Huckster, and he makes McCain look like a consistent conservative.
Buy Danish on January 19, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I’ve already explained that the general electorate wouldn’t even know who Romney was if it weren’t for his wealth, which afforded him the opportunity to explain it to them. In regard to Huckabee, he may not have had much money but he certainly had plenty of currency. Some here would call it Jesus-juice, but call it what you will, both Huckabee and Romney are Fred-spoilers, not the other way around. I think history will be written that way and McCain will be the nominee.
FloatingRock on January 19, 2008 at 11:26 PM
…and Hunter is out of the running, and Tancredo is gone?
Yes. If you’ll notice, most Fred supporters would vote for them as well. They can’t make it. Past Fred, the rest of the leftovers are the most liberal of the running. Ignore that fact all you like, and keep acting like “Fred is the most conservative” is hyperbole, but it’s been proven time and time again. On issues, Thompson, Hunter, and Tancredo were almost identical. All the rest have liberal positions on at least one significant issue.
THAT is reality. Sorry if you don’t like it.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 11:27 PM
MB4 on January 19, 2008 at 11:27 PM
There is no bright side. Being secure in the knowledge there’s no way Huckleberry will win the nomination, we wanted Huck to win for no other reason than to blunt McVain’s momentum.
clark smith on January 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Oh, Gawd. I think Fred’s done.
He’s heading HOME, not to Florida.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I’m a part-time stage actor. I’ve gone as far as playing a cliche evil Republican. Doesn’t have a single bearing on my views.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 11:29 PM
i
Because of Fred’s big push and negative campaign against Huckabee and Mitt Romney’s strategy of staying out of it and letting them fight each other to death, that’s how.
When is your plane scheduled for Canada? I can’t wait for you to leave.
Mcguyver on January 19, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Well, if Fred accomplishes nothing more in his life than to take Huckabee out of the running for POTUS, we still owe him a debt of gratitude. Thank you, Fred!
aero on January 19, 2008 at 11:30 PM
I agree, he is not the greatest speaker. He is a media darling though. They give him passes because he is a great RINO.
I see this boiling down to Mitt and John. Who do we vote for? I have serious reservations about both of them, but advantage Mitt. He has proven experience needed to turn around things on an administrative level. He is not scared to talk about the international jihad we are fighting (neither is John).
I truly wish that Fred! coulda made it happen, but that doesn’t seem even feasible right now.
If it is Romney, he got my vote. McCain, he got my vote. Huck…I am cashing out my retirement funds and savings and going globe trotting.
I just could not live under another Clinton!
lsutiger on January 19, 2008 at 11:30 PM
In case anyone is interested, re my prediction a couple of days ago? I was wrr…
I was wro….
I was wroooo
I was wrX)g.
Crap.
Oh, well, life goes on.
Tennman on January 19, 2008 at 11:32 PM
That’s odd. I could have sworn that I’ve seen hundreds and hundreds of comments from people who prefer Fred but said that Mitt was their second choice. Oh well, carry on.
That too. How deflating will it be if their conservative standard bearer endorses McKennedy.
Buy Danish on January 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM
I just do NOT believe this.
People are confusing one’s TV ROLE as being the same as their POLITICAL VIEWS???
Just because Fred was in a liberal Hollywood show that slams “evil republicans” (don’t ALL liberal Hollywood shows?) to pay the rent and put food on the table and be able to continue to FUND JERI’S SPENDING HABITS???
This is like walking up to Tom Hanks and confusing him with Forrest Gump. Or meeting Charlton Heston and thinking he’s really Ben-Hur or Moses. In fact, confusing Fred the real guy with his TV role doesn’t even REACH HALF of Forrest Gump’s IQ score!
What on EARTH is going on with our populace?? Just how the F**K does anybody rap Fred for EARNING A LIVING after his Senatorial career was toast????
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:35 PM
No, you’re right what you’ve acted doesn’t reflect your views.
The fact is that before Thompson ran in this campaign, he was largely known as a Hollywood actor. Fairly or unfairly I don’t think many conservatives have a favorable view Hollywood.
terryannonline on January 19, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Some Fredheads think Mitt will be all right, even with the liberal positions he does have. Others do not.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Life goes on
bnelson44 on January 19, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I’m not calling Mitt an extremist. However, he’s taken up positions that Bloomberg has specifically identified as “extremist” on issues such as immigration and the role of faith.
Big S on January 19, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Sorry, man. I was pulling for him in SC. Hopefully he will stay part of the conversation.
Spirit of 1776 on January 19, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Maybe McCain, Fred and Mitt all agreed the one thing they all could not live with is Huck. So Mitt pulls out, Fred stays in and attacks and McCain is the sole beneficiary of both decisions. Perhaps they decided to nip him in the bud….
TheBigOldDog on January 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
If this is the end of the road for Fred!, then at least he went out like a hero: throwing himself on the grenade that is Huckleberry in order to save the party. Even Chuck Norris wouldn’t have done that.
Mallard T. Drake on January 19, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Mad,
I guess I’d have to (reluctantly) fall into that 1st category. If Fred drops out, I’d reluctantly have to start supporting Mitt. But the guy is just too slick, a little too polished, a little too flip-floppy waffly for me to feel 100% comfortable.
Must be a Massachusetts thing. If I ever visit Taxachusetts again, I’ll make sure to order waffles for breakfast. They must be cheap there…they sure seem to have a whole LOT of ‘em.
Shirotayama on January 19, 2008 at 11:40 PM
As a Frehead, I’m not making any announcements until Fred does. I think he may defy you ALLLLLLLLLLLLL and continue onward.
I hope so.
Have hope Fredheads. He DID NOT drop out tonight.
NickTx on January 19, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Mitt is not McLiar.
Mitt is not Huckascam.
Both of those facts are a huge plus in Mitt’s favor to me.
I want Fred!
I may have to grudgingly settle for Mitt. And I don’t get this extremist Mormon meme going around. He seems rather decent and not extremist at all to me.
SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Hey Shiromiester- based upon your rantings on this blog – on what basis should I care what you have to say about what is “utterly contradictory to the principled behavior both Christians and Jews are supposed to follow”…are you a student of these two religions (I’ll have to assume by your speech that you’re not a member of either)… and what’s wrong with someone quoting the Bible in referring to their political views. Remember, the prohibition of a “religious Test” in Article VI is a prohibition upon government, NOT upon America’s citizens. Americans are absolutely free to bring their worldview into the voting booth! YOU apparently want to censor that view from public discussion about politics…hey…you might be a McCain man after all!
HERMES on January 19, 2008 at 11:43 PM
As the Fred!heads prepare for the possible bad news about the Thompson campaign, this is my hope. If Fred! calls it a day, I hope he throws his support to Mitt. In return, I would hope that Mitt would name him as his VP candidate once he wins the nomination. With Mitt’s strength on the economy, Fred’s strength on foreign affairs, both strong in social concerns, they would make a good team to lead the country.
So far Fred! has maintained his dignity and conservative credentials throughout the campaign. It would be the ultimate letdown to see him throw his support to his buddy, McCain. Please don’t do it Fred!
Mallard T. Drake on January 19, 2008 at 11:45 PM
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