Should Fred’s supporters abandon him tomorrow for … Huckabee?
posted at 8:30 pm on January 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
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T-minus 24 hours and counting until, in all likelihood, his political career’s over. I can’t resist one last poke at the Fredhead beehive for old time’s sake.
The argument comes from Patrick Ruffini: Since Huckabee probably doesn’t have the money or organization to run the table on Super Ultra Mega Tuesday but McCain does, shouldn’t South Carolina’s Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson supporters defect tomorrow and vote for Huck to blunt Mac’s momentum heading into Florida? That’s an easy yes in the first two cases but in Fred’s case it would mean the end. Has the time come to take Ol’ Yeller out back? Ruffini says … yes:
If you’re a Romney or a Rudy guy, this is a relative no-brainer. This will be tougher for FredHeads, since their guy has made a stand in the state. But with less than 24 hours to go, and Fred running no better than a weak third, it is probably time to face facts. It’s too bad, because conservatives deserve Fred Thompson as a choice, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening.
John Tabin at Reason likewise fears the Reaper:
Alas, Thompson has hardly taken the race by storm. Glenn Reynolds wrote last month that he might have joined Volokh et al. in endorsing Thompson if he hadn’t observed how poorly Thompson’s campaign is run behind the scenes. That poorly run campaign has yielded poor results. Thompson’s low-key affect and introverted personality made him ill-suited to the hands-on retail politicking that Iowans expect, and he edged out John McCain for third place in the Iowa caucuses by just three tenths of a percentage point despite spending much more time than McCain stumping in the Hawkeye State (McCain focused on New Hampshire, where he won). He made almost no effort in the New Hampshire and Michigan primaries, where he got less than 2 percent and less than 4 percent of the vote, respectively…
Perhaps something will change the dynamics of the race in the remaining hours before South Carolina Republicans go to the polls tomorrow, and Thompson will catch a break. But at the moment, his prospects don’t appear to give fans of smaller government any reason to abandon the pessimism that has by now become all too familiar.
Re: how poorly run Fred’s campaign is/was, be sure to see this Mark Steyn item at the Corner if you missed it last night. Has the time come, ‘Heads? If the polls hold and Fred finishes fourth with less than half of McCain’s vote, Romney’s going to be your guy anyway come Sunday morning. Why not vote strategically tomorrow?
I offer you this to remember the man by. Meanwhile, here’s the state of conservatism in 2008: A RINO touting the kind words of another RINO in, of all places, South Carolina. Between them they’ve got 50% of the vote. Good lord.
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HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 1:28 AM
the majority of people do not know what shorting is let alone how to do it. Most baby boomers are starting to retire, think they might need that 10-15%?
And it’s not 10-15%. the banks have lost more than 50% of their vaule. homebuilders have lost more than 80%. Auto companies have lost >50%, techs have lost 20-40% of their vaule. Industruials like GE, UTX are breaking down. We are not done going down. We could see 50-80% losses in the market.
And you do not have a recession when banks fail. You have a depression. There is a big difference. this is not hype. I have been trading stocks for 20 years. This is not hype.
unseen on January 19, 2008 at 1:34 AM
http://tundratabloid.blogspot.com/2007/09/world-discovers-facism-in-me-but-only.html
HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 1:34 AM
…and I’m still waiting for a connection between the Libyan terrorists who blew up the plane and Nazis. I’m not looking for six degrees of separation. I’m looking for justification to call these two nazis, because I know there is none, because this twit over here made the connection based on the fact that they both hate jews. That’s. All. The. Logic. He. Used.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 1:35 AM
you are obviously too deluded in your Fred love to realize that the above is an insult to Romney (his appeal is just looks) and to his supporters (they are shallow)
Anyway, I wish Fred luck tomorrow, if he does drop out and endorse McCain I’ll be looking for your explanation on how that fits with those “core principals”
windansea on January 19, 2008 at 1:35 AM
…how was what I said bulls*** assertions?
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 1:36 AM
What you stated isn’t simply interjecting your opinion. In fact, just because you have an opinion, doesn’t it make it automatically right for print. You accused all your detractors as hating evangelicals. That is just untrue and a dishonest ploy to distract from your even weaker argument: supporting Huckabee as a conservative for the Republican nominee.
A reminder:
I disagree with you on the issues because of your candidate choice and your candidate’s positions, your Christianity being a non-factor.
geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 1:36 AM
Searching for the word Libya on that page.
Posting results below:
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 1:37 AM
Money is just an inorganic construct.
your wealth is what you can defend as your own property at the end of the day.
MADMAX anyone?
We now live in a nation where the average high school senior can’t dress out a deer and the girls couldn’t dress a hen on Sunday.
We are in for some deep do do.
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 1:38 AM
Just for that I am donating another $20 to FRED.
HotAirExpert on January 19, 2008 at 1:38 AM
Madcon,
Are you by any chance a muslim…or as I say, a muslim nazi terrorist?
HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Oh no, not another survivalist. My best friend forces MREs down my throat every time I’m at his house.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Still waiting for you to provide links to prove your fallacy of consequence.
Oh wait, you don’t understand logic. Never mind.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 1:40 AM
DannoJyd on January 19, 2008 at 1:30 AM
I could care less if the NYT went to zero. I like Fred as I have repeatly stated on this site over the last year. This is not a conservative/liberal thing. This is an american problem. Why do you think the dems and reps finally agreed speedily to the stimulus? You think that was just a lark. Two bitter camps fighting over everything for the last year suddenly calls a ceasefire and proposes a rebate in very quick and fast time for a government bill? You think they just said hey this sounds good let’s do this? In the middle of an election year when the economy can be used to each parties strength they would just agree to give a key issue up like that for the hell of it?
God learn to put two and two together before you hurt yourself.
unseen on January 19, 2008 at 1:41 AM
Go on boy! git cha some. I am up to about 1000.00 I will keep hittin it as Fred Blossims
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Man I ditched Fred as soon as I heard he had spencer abraham on his team and lobbied for pro abortion groups and gave legal advice to muslim nazi terrorists.
are you going to be shocked when fred endorses Mcamnesty??
HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 1:43 AM
You have now officially attained troll status and should no longer be fed. Trollish behavior should be ignored.
Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Another reason for NOT voting for McCain, The Huckster, or Giuliani, is, only Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney appear to be…..”Statesman-like”. The others are lacking this quality, big time!
DfDeportation on January 19, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Just when I was feeling bad about feeding the trolls you just had to join in. Well, at least yours IS a salient point that I’ve recognised for decades [thanks to Robert A. Heinlien] and one that I am trying to correct on a personal [including my family] level. ;o)
Go Fred Go!
DannoJyd on January 19, 2008 at 1:44 AM
Wow… as we degrade this once proud website down to the level of daily KOS.
/sadly shakes his head and walks out….
Romeo13 on January 19, 2008 at 1:44 AM
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 1:38 AM
Yes we are. Most of the crap to come can still be averted if our leaders act NOW. Sadly most of those leaders don’t know how to dress themselves let alone a deer.
unseen on January 19, 2008 at 1:45 AM
I’ll kiss your ass if Fred does that.
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 1:45 AM
Yeah, you ditched him for a guy who thinks Jesus would take all border enforcement away, never met a tax he didn’t like, concealed carries but doesn’t think most people have any right to do so, doesn’t think people should be allowed to smoke, thinks people should pay the government to be able to eat junk food, and that America has an “arrogant bunker mentality”.
Congratulations.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 1:46 AM
You know, the Knights Templar and the Illuminati are sooooo laughing at us right now.
And Dick van Patten. Stealthy b*st*rd is behind it all. I even have tapes of him selling LRH the basics of Dianetics.
Eight is enough, my left buttock. 8 = 6 plus two, meaning two more sixes. 666 …
Don’t you people have EYES TO SEE?!? Dick van Patten is …
Ai-ai-ai! Cthulhu F’tagn!
(how many Michelobs did it take to bring the threat to this?)
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 1:46 AM
It just doesn’t make any sense that anyone would think the dems are better for the economy..I mean what planet are you from??
Heard about dems carried interest tax or capital gains tax raise??
Talk about devastating the economy!
HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 1:46 AM
The only question is whether or not Thompson will endorse McCain if things don’t bode well for him soon. If that sould happen, Fred Thompson will forfeit his conservative birthright of which he is an heir to. That day shall be a dark, dark, dark, day….
DfDeportation on January 19, 2008 at 1:47 AM
Congratulations on finally posting a decent post. You capitalized most of what needed it, actually used punctuation, and your spelling finally got above a 6th. grade level. I do appreciate your previous efforts though as they make my own mistakes look less apparent. Now if you could just learn to stay on topic …
Go Fred Go!
DannoJyd on January 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM
The first R.A. Heilein book I read was “have sapce suit will travel” and I was hooked. I turned my daughter on to him when she was 12
She is 18 now and reads Ann Coulter. if ya know what I mean.
She leans right. She already has her Associates as she ffinished HS at 16
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Your boy Huck will implement 60%+ of all the policies Hillary or Obama would, and they will fail just as badly, and the Republican party will be to blame, which will guarantee a Democratic White House.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 1:50 AM
For CXhrist sake lay off the guy.
lol
Some people drink, ya know?
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 1:50 AM
Oh man! This is a tough crowd…..phew! How’s it going guys?
DfDeportation on January 19, 2008 at 1:50 AM
If you haven’t turned her onto Ayn Rand, you’re doing her an injustice.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 1:51 AM
DannoJyd on January 19, 2008 at 1:48 AM
buddy if I wanted a grammer lesson from you I would have raised my hand.
unseen on January 19, 2008 at 1:51 AM
Are you having a hard time connecting the dots child?.. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” there’s a hint..
whiskeytango on January 19, 2008 at 1:52 AM
Man, I was just sitting out in the garage, listening to Mark Levin, just kickin’ back on a late Friday evening. Ya know, havin’ a few laughs on the radio, and you come in here spillin’ half of that bottle of some serious intensity on floor. Damn, lighten up dude.
DfDeportation on January 19, 2008 at 1:53 AM
I didn’t before, but this thread may yet push me to it.
which wine goes best with self-loathing?
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 1:53 AM
You’re right (again) SitRep, those are “been drinking” words!
geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 1:54 AM
Good call I have “When Atlas shrouged” in paper back. I’ll mail it to here next week. thanx
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 1:54 AM
“Your boy Huck will implement 60%+ of all the policies Hillary or Obama would”
that’s the craziest most uninformed agrgument against Huckabee that I’ve ever heard.
You need to actually learn what his policies are first..
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.Home
HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 1:54 AM
“Why don’t you guys like Huck?????? It’s not fair!!!!”
geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 1:56 AM
My wife, whose first language is not English, did not know that Michelob was the brandname of a beer and thought it very strange that I would talk with friends about how much I liked “Make Love”. It was probably two years after we were married that she finally figured out what I had been talking about. Of course, I did much the same thing several times with phrases in her language… and I was really glad to learn her brother wasn’t a schizophrenic perv… just sayin’
;c)
Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 1:56 AM
geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 1:54 AM
you think?
unseen on January 19, 2008 at 1:56 AM
Chateaux neuf du puss
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 1:57 AM
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again.
Whatever you do, don’t click this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FssH6uQ3Sc
apacalyps on January 19, 2008 at 1:57 AM
LOL!
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 1:58 AM
I didn’t before and won’t do it again.
geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 1:59 AM
Really. Let’s see. In 1942 the US and USSR were allies. 10 years later they were enemies. So your little catchphrase is rather pedantic.
In addition, Soviets, Nazis, Poles, Christians, Muslims, Klan members, and about 1000 other groups hate jews. Does that mean they’re all friends?
I’m so sick of people who, instead of summarizing solid, proven ideas with simple phrases, go instead with phrases that sound good, and then stumble about realizing it doesn’t have a damned thing to do with reality.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:02 AM
I was very disappointed when I found out Fred was a total fraud…….but I got over it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyUXdkrwrd4
HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 2:02 AM
I go out on a Friday night and AllahPundit turns around and slices like a hammer. Then all hell breaks lose and Fredheads have taken to drinking with only 5% in and Mark weighing in with the likes of Ann Coulter. The slow bleed type Republican Conservatives. Fred is finished before he starts why not make your vote can’t and take the one that the liberal but at least he’s the least liberal.
I did that with Bush. Why am I gonna do this again? Okay, go back to your heavy drinking. You’ll need it come to tomorrow. I’m outta here.
SECOND LOOK AT DEFEATISM!!!
Sultry Beauty on January 19, 2008 at 2:02 AM
Nobody’s clicking your links, alpacalips.
RushBaby on January 19, 2008 at 2:02 AM
This thread has 641 posts
It is amazing what 50 awesome Freadheads and 3 negative nabob turds can do.
LOL
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:02 AM
I’m sure you are very proud of your fine young lady. I’m happy to report that my son totally surprised me when he signed up with the Army for a 5 year hitch.
Who says we parents don’t get involved in our off-springs upbringing? To them I say, “Bunk!”
Go Fred Go!
DannoJyd on January 19, 2008 at 2:02 AM
Too funny!
My wife’s English is just fine, but when she slips into Irish she confuses the heck out of me….and every time I try my hand at it she makes me throw ten bucks into the vacation jar.
At the rate I’m going we can afford to move there…which, in the event of President Hillary, we darn well will.
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 2:04 AM
I’m thinking Norway if the Hildebeast wins.
HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 2:06 AM
*sigh*
Look, I’ll lay it on the line. I prefer Christians to atheists. Christians are honest about their having faith. I also admire the morality system from the Bible, and the people who truly live by it.
However, I cannot for the life of me fathom Christians who are going to vote for Huckabee because he mentions his faith as often as Rudy mentions 9/11. If you’re willing to let your faith blind you to what a candidate is actually standing for, that’s your choice.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:06 AM
LMAO! I know, but I just finished a veeery long week and couldn’t resist the temptation. Just imagine what my apprentices have to put up with. Haha…
DannoJyd on January 19, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Outta here? You just got here! :P
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Yeah My son is 13. , I have hopes that he’ll join the Corps.
There are a lot of MFs needin’ killin’.
Good on your boy. I hope he gets some.
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:07 AM
Hmm, Romney… I just don’t trust a word that comes out of that guy’s mouth. His evil
apacalyps on January 19, 2008 at 2:08 AM
lol!
geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 2:08 AM
Hey MadisonConservative. your site is down.
Where are ya from etc?
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:08 AM
Holy carp! Trump in da haoowwse…
Okay, I’ve officially had enough red bulls for one evening.
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 2:08 AM
Dude. Heh.
That pretty much wraps me up for the night. Thanks.
Heh heh. That was a good one.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:09 AM
Just checked. It’s up.
Um…take a look at my name and guess. ;)
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:10 AM
You can disagree with Unseen about the state of the economy if you wish but he’s definitely not a troll.
FloatingRock on January 19, 2008 at 2:10 AM
Umm…. Dolly-wood? ;c)
Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 2:11 AM
http://madisonconservative.blogspot.com/
thats strange, I cant pull it up from here
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:11 AM
Well, then, I’m convinced….
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 2:12 AM
Uh oh…hope no evangelical Huck supporter makes the 666th post. Then the devil will come out of his forehead and smite those that fell for the temptation.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:12 AM
Oh great, now this site has gone to Sith.
geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 2:12 AM
We are all troll . admit it
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:12 AM
A Troll is anyone that wants to read a reply to their own posts.
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:13 AM
I agree. The best candidate for the Republican nomination is mike Huckabee. The GOP, money-con, elite, don’t want him though and they’re influencing the media and ruining it for the people.
Amen.
apacalyps on January 19, 2008 at 2:13 AM
If that’s near Milwaukee, smartass. :P
Then you must be a nazi.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:13 AM
That is funny I used to mark my deuce gear with 666 so the christians wouldn’t steal it.
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:15 AM
What do you disagree with Huckabee about?
He stands for:
Energy Independence
Offense against islamic terrorism
get rid of socialist income tax
cut taxes
protect marriage
ban abortion
allow prayer in schools
no amnesty for illegals
secure the border/employer verification
protect America’s sovereignty
overhaul
education systemliberal indoctrination systemfree market health care
Are these really such terrible policies?
HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 2:15 AM
He got discharged early due to a torn up knee. He didn’t ‘get’ any, was very down when he came home, but has since [mostly] recovered and become a field supervisor and trainer for Comcast cable. I probably should mention the 2 fine grandsons he gave us as they constantly cheer me up. As I see it, we’ve got 2 great potential Bears players here. Now all I have to do is get my daughter to adulthood. Silly girl constantly works at being my favorite son, and she told me I was her ‘hero’ when she was 13. Apparently she still believes that. ;o)
DannoJyd on January 19, 2008 at 2:16 AM
OK, the Dolly Madison reference was a bit tortured… but,
I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there! :c)
Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 2:16 AM
You mean terrorist? Wait, jihadist? Cylon? Dang, what is it?
geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 2:16 AM
Hey Mister Grammer. Do you understand what ramifications this has?
ratings agency downgrades of bond insurers sent the market tumbling. On Friday, a Bank of America Corp. analyst cut its ratings on three bond insurers — MBIA Inc., Ambac Financial Group and Security Capital Assurance Ltd. — to “neutral” from “buy.”
MBIA fell 67 cents, or 7 percent, to $8.55 after a sharp drop Thursday.
Ambac rebounded from Thursday’s drop, though, rising 34 cents, or 5.5 percent, to $6.58. The company said Friday it will ditch its previous plan to raise $1 billion in capital, a decision many investors considered an ill-advised move to maintain its ratings.
Security Capital Assurance fell 17 cents, or 9.3 percent, to $1.65.
Let me guess just hype. right?
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080118/wall_street.html?.v=14
I mean it’s not like the rating acency’s just downgraded the linchpin of every bank and brokerage house that is holding insured home loans. Making the potential loss from those bad loans 100% to the banks bottom lines is it? I mean citi just worte off 18 billion dollars what’s another 500 billion in bad loans that are now not insured?
I’m sure those stockholders, pension funds, state governments, banks, brokerages, holding those loans would never every care about a little thing like insurance on bad loans. right? I mean I’m sure all the banks will just be lining up Tuesday to issue home loans with 100% risk and no possibility of getting insurance on those loans. No big deal.
unseen on January 19, 2008 at 2:17 AM
Nice catchphrases. Now tell me what he has actually proposed he will do. And I don’t mean “attain energy independence”. That’s pure BS. No president in 2009, even if they attain two terms, can achieve energy independence. So I know already one of his points is complete bulls***.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:18 AM
Nope I would never condescende to join a group that would have me as a member.
I am an equal opportunity hater
I hate the KKK, Black panthers, nazis, pta, brownies you name it.
Cliques suck
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:19 AM
You shouldn’t make the mistake of linking grammar with intelligence; they aren’t always linked. For whatever reason Unseen doesn’t take the time to practice perfect grammar and spelling in his posts, yet in my opinion he’s one of the most articulate commentators here at Hot Air.
FloatingRock on January 19, 2008 at 2:19 AM
Dude. Seriously. I’ve seen better material in my spam bucket.
I didn’t see “protect puppies” or “keep mean people locked up” on the list. So…I’ll just have to keep looking.
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 2:20 AM
Did I write EVILutionist? Musta been a typo… hmm, no no… I got it right.
apacalyps on January 19, 2008 at 2:20 AM
Maybe if I got a few beers in me I could get really concerned … NOT!
Go Fred Go!!!
DannoJyd on January 19, 2008 at 2:20 AM
You may have just defined an addict, if not a troll. :|
RushBaby on January 19, 2008 at 2:20 AM
My website is protected by the Super-HuckChristCo-AntiNazi firewall.
It tells me how I should live because God downloads instructions to it daily, and then blocks all Nazis, which supposedly also blocks Muslims because of some weird patch some guy put out on the internet.
Strangely, lots of Muslims seem to get through anyway.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:21 AM
Whatever, Hot Airhead.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:21 AM
I HATE Illinois Nazis.
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 2:22 AM
FloatingRock on January 19, 2008 at 2:19 AM
Thanks, my mind moves faster than my fingers at times. esp when tired.
unseen on January 19, 2008 at 2:22 AM
we built 40 sherman tanks in 4 years millions of riles and jeeps. we were at a point where we were building a ship per day. Trust me my friend we could be energy independants in two shakes of a lambs tail. if we were so inclined.
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:22 AM
No no, you got it right. And it makes me laugh. No, not with you. At you.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:22 AM
No offense meant to you MadCon, but this is the troll who asked:
Why on Earth would you think it’s going to respond to reason? Feeding it will only make it stay around.
Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 2:23 AM
i meant 40,000
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:23 AM
SitRep hate brownies? How about chocolate chip cookies?
RushBaby on January 19, 2008 at 2:24 AM
Touche
TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 2:24 AM
Fascist!
sulla on January 19, 2008 at 2:25 AM
Dude, 60 years ago, flushing a koran would not have gotten someone charged with a felony. We are in an entirely different country and world.
MadisonConservative on January 19, 2008 at 2:26 AM
Elitist!
RushBaby on January 19, 2008 at 2:27 AM
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