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Should Fred’s supporters abandon him tomorrow for … Huckabee?

posted at 8:30 pm on January 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
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T-minus 24 hours and counting until, in all likelihood, his political career’s over. I can’t resist one last poke at the Fredhead beehive for old time’s sake.

The argument comes from Patrick Ruffini: Since Huckabee probably doesn’t have the money or organization to run the table on Super Ultra Mega Tuesday but McCain does, shouldn’t South Carolina’s Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson supporters defect tomorrow and vote for Huck to blunt Mac’s momentum heading into Florida? That’s an easy yes in the first two cases but in Fred’s case it would mean the end. Has the time come to take Ol’ Yeller out back? Ruffini says … yes:

If you’re a Romney or a Rudy guy, this is a relative no-brainer. This will be tougher for FredHeads, since their guy has made a stand in the state. But with less than 24 hours to go, and Fred running no better than a weak third, it is probably time to face facts. It’s too bad, because conservatives deserve Fred Thompson as a choice, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening.

John Tabin at Reason likewise fears the Reaper:

Alas, Thompson has hardly taken the race by storm. Glenn Reynolds wrote last month that he might have joined Volokh et al. in endorsing Thompson if he hadn’t observed how poorly Thompson’s campaign is run behind the scenes. That poorly run campaign has yielded poor results. Thompson’s low-key affect and introverted personality made him ill-suited to the hands-on retail politicking that Iowans expect, and he edged out John McCain for third place in the Iowa caucuses by just three tenths of a percentage point despite spending much more time than McCain stumping in the Hawkeye State (McCain focused on New Hampshire, where he won). He made almost no effort in the New Hampshire and Michigan primaries, where he got less than 2 percent and less than 4 percent of the vote, respectively…

Perhaps something will change the dynamics of the race in the remaining hours before South Carolina Republicans go to the polls tomorrow, and Thompson will catch a break. But at the moment, his prospects don’t appear to give fans of smaller government any reason to abandon the pessimism that has by now become all too familiar.

Re: how poorly run Fred’s campaign is/was, be sure to see this Mark Steyn item at the Corner if you missed it last night. Has the time come, ‘Heads? If the polls hold and Fred finishes fourth with less than half of McCain’s vote, Romney’s going to be your guy anyway come Sunday morning. Why not vote strategically tomorrow?

I offer you this to remember the man by. Meanwhile, here’s the state of conservatism in 2008: A RINO touting the kind words of another RINO in, of all places, South Carolina. Between them they’ve got 50% of the vote. Good lord.


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Mcguyver on January 18, 2008 at 9:17 PM

There you go again, playing chess, when you should just be supporting Fred.

I say that jokingly.

TheSitRep on January 18, 2008 at 9:19 PM

Oh and Bkenney your column on your blog is completely wrong. You say this:

The GOP prides itself on being a “big tent,” and that means that primarily social conservatives like me also share the party with primarily fiscal conservatives and libertarians. Only as a coalition do we have the votes necessary to defeat the liberals of the Democratic Party.

Reagan didnt win a 49 state landslide by conservative on some issues and liberal on others. And it was his isnpiring message that brought Reagan Democrats into the fold.

Sorry if Rudy is your guy, he hasnt done anything and you want Fred to drop out? How about your boy drop out since he hasnt left his house in 2 months.

broker1 on January 18, 2008 at 9:19 PM

When pulling the lever for your candidate has the direct effect of making McCain–a NON-conservative–a nearly unstoppable force for nomination, your conviction has transformed into mania.

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:17 PM

Fred is the only conservative running…

doubleplusundead on January 18, 2008 at 9:19 PM

yeah ..on the 12th

the 12th of never.

ooffaahh.

redrock on January 18, 2008 at 9:19 PM

When pulling the lever for your candidate has the direct effect of making McCain–a NON-conservative–a nearly unstoppable force for nomination, your conviction has transformed into mania.

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:17 PM

So your proposal is that by voting for the candidate you want, you’re a maniacal person because you’re not voting for another candidate whom YOU see as a much more viable alternative (which Rudy was, and is no longer as viable as he was then).

You’re labeling people mentally disabled because they insist on voting for a candidate rather than against one.

You’re nuts.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:20 PM

I’m voting Fred or staying home. Truth. No more Rinos.

TCJ on January 18, 2008 at 9:20 PM

(follow-up)

Didn’t we just barely creep back to 5% unemployment recently?

RightWinged on January 18, 2008 at 9:18 PM

And in case anyone here doesn’t pay that close attention… when I say “creep back”, I’m talking about UP. We were in the 4%s for the past couple of years, with steady job growth.

RightWinged on January 18, 2008 at 9:21 PM

broker1 on January 18, 2008 at 9:19 PM

Tear that ass up!

TheSitRep on January 18, 2008 at 9:21 PM

It seems the American electorate prefers candidates who will promise to have the government take care of them.

They want their Mittcare or Hillarycare. They want their mortgage bailouts.

Too bad my mortgage is a fixed rate and I actually pay it on time. If not maybe Uncle Sam could have picked up the tab for me.

Unfortunately for me, I will just now have the dubious pleasure of paying extra taxes to “help” people too lazy and irresponsible to take care of themselves.

Is that the tyranny of the majority that we were warned about?

funky chicken on January 18, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Voting for Huckabee to stop McCain is like voting for brain cancer to stop liver cancer.

Igor R. on January 18, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Did hell freeze over? AP on the crack pipe?

NOT A CHANCE!

jwp1964 on January 18, 2008 at 9:22 PM

I’m voting Fred or staying home. Truth. No more Rinos.

TCJ on January 18, 2008 at 9:20 PM

Amen! that’s right.

TheSitRep on January 18, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Voting for Huckabee to stop McCain is like voting for brain cancer to stop liver cancer.

Igor R. on January 18, 2008 at 9:22 PM

you tell it on the mountain brotha!
sho nuff, amen

TheSitRep on January 18, 2008 at 9:23 PM

Allah: not just no, but Hell No!

Fred! all the way! As long as he’s on the ballot, he’ll have my vote no matter what. I need to be able to live with my choices in life and come the post-primary morning, I’ll be proud of my choice.

How about you, Allah? Will you be proud?

michaelo on January 18, 2008 at 9:23 PM

If Fred does poorly and drops out, will he endorse one of the others? And if he does, will the Fredheads follow their master’s lead and vote for the guy their guy tells them to?

EJDolbow on January 18, 2008 at 9:23 PM

So, I guess all the Romney voters should go vote for McCain too?

Jeez, this Patrick Ruffini is a real genius.

The Paulbots better get in line too.

All hail McCain?

funky chicken on January 18, 2008 at 9:23 PM

Reagan didnt win a 49 state landslide by conservative on some issues and liberal on others. And it was his isnpiring message that brought Reagan Democrats into the fold.

Sorry if Rudy is your guy, he hasnt done anything and you want Fred to drop out? How about your boy drop out since he hasnt left his house in 2 months.

broker1 on January 18, 2008 at 9:19 PM

Reagan’s opponent was Walter “I’ma raise your taxes guarenteed!” Mondale. Reagan was inspiring and all, but lets face it, Mondale shot himself in the foot.

In the previous election his predecessor was Jimmy Carter, home of malaise mayonaisse, stagflation steak, and killer rabits. Reagan did win big, but both of his opponents sucked.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:24 PM

Amen! that’s right.

TheSitRep on January 18, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Double amen. Vote who you want for president, not for who you don’t want.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:24 PM

I’m voting Fred or staying home. Truth. No more Rinos.

TCJ on January 18, 2008 at 9:20 PM

+1

wccawa on January 18, 2008 at 9:24 PM

If Fred does poorly and drops out, will he endorse one of the others? And if he does, will the Fredheads follow their master’s lead and vote for the guy their guy tells them to?

EJDolbow on January 18, 2008 at 9:23 PM

Hell no I am voting for Fred Dalton Thompson in the general come hell or high water!

TheSitRep on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

What an idiotic question and story.

I can see some people here advocate abandoning conservative principles to vote for the prettiest pony.

Well you asked the question, here is my answer.

F*%k No! Eat a bag of sh*t, since when do we, as conservatives, endorse the American Idol style of picking a candidate.

One has nice hair. He seems nice. He promised me a new water heater for my house. I will vote for him even though he flips and flops depending on the crowd in front of him.

The other tells jokes and is soooo Christ like even though he lives just on the outskirts of the truth. What a nice boy.

This guy is a war hero, I guess I can conveniently forget he never misses a chance to dog his own party. Lets vote for him.

Wasn’t there a guy from New York running too? I should vote for him, he gets the NE mindset.

What!! He refused to put on a fire hat!! That rat bastard I will never vote for him, besides he got in too late! Oh nevermind he espouses core conservative principles, the media tells me I should hate him anyways.

The GOP is truly pathetic.

Sammy316 on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Fred is the only conservative running…

doubleplusundead on January 18, 2008 at 9:19 PM

And Ron Paul is the only man who can save America. See a pattern?

You’re labeling people mentally disabled because they insist on voting for a candidate rather than against one.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:20 PM

No, I’m saying Fredheads are crazed because they are not acting rationally. It is irrational to knowingly take an action that will result in the opposite of your desired effect.

How am I wrong?

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Reagan did win big, but both of his opponents sucked.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:24 PM

So does Hillary. Don’t let fear cloud your judgment.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

What a dumb post AP.

After all, if Giuliani and Romney voters strategically voted for Fred to stop McCain, we could top Huckabee, push him out of the race, and be able to corner McCain.

A stronger Huckabee is not in the interest of Giuliani or Romney, I don’t think. An advantage to EVERYONE would be a candidate leaving the race, except perhaps Rudy.

The better thing for Giuliani and Romney would be to keep the claiming of states as fractured as possible. Neither will win SC, which leaves Huck, Fred, and McCain. The only one who hasn’t had a win in a major state is Fred. Neither Romney nor Giuliani want Romney or Huckabee to be able to claim the title of the first candidate to win two major states.

After all, if Huck wins in SC, he has a very real chance of winning FL. After that, Feb 5th is just momemtum, baby.

Again, dumb idea AP.

American-Infidels.com on January 18, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Sorry, sorry. This idiot thinks everybody should rush out to vote for Schmuckabee?

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

I’d vote for RonPaul before I’d vote for Schmuckabee. Yep, I’d vote for a racist nutter over a slimy, lying preacherman.

funky chicken on January 18, 2008 at 9:26 PM

(follow-up)

Didn’t we just barely creep back to 5% unemployment recently?

RightWinged on January 18, 2008 at 9:18 PM

And in case anyone here doesn’t pay that close attention… when I say “creep back”, I’m talking about UP. We were in the 4%s for the past couple of years, with steady job growth.

RightWinged on January 18, 2008 at 9:21 PM

Anybody catch the video of Huck complaining about the oh-so-serious unemployment problem?

Laura on January 18, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Fine. Here’s a source you might believe. Note the quote in the second graf.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:08 PM

Here is a video from Fox News on Jan. 17th,….Fred never says he needs to win just that he need to have a good showing. Also, this was said after the posting on his website.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player06.html?011708/011708_cameron_thompson&Americas_Newsroom&%2527We%2520Feel%2520Good%2527&%2527We%2520Feel%2520Good%2527&Politics&-1&News&247&&&new

azcop on January 18, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Fred!

infidel on January 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM

I guess everybody at Hot air has voted here
http://www.thesitrep.com/pres.htm
Here are the latest results:

Fred Thompson 76.5% 372

Mitt Romney 14.2% 69

Mike Huckabee 4.9% 24

Rudy Giuliani 3.3% 16

John McCain. 1% 5

TheSitRep on January 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM

AND BTW,

Fred isn’t dropping out unless he doesn’t finish in the top 3.

American-Infidels.com on January 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Huck Army plans attack using Ron Paul’s internet plan

Huckabuck for a huckaboom

William Amos on January 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM

Sammy316 on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

So do you support Thompson, or just hate everyone else in the race? Those other guys, despite their shortcomings, do have significant points in their favor.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM

So does Hillary. Don’t let fear cloud your judgment.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

The difference was that Carter sucked while he was in power, while Hillary is promising “change” from the Bush administration. Consider Hillary more like Carter in ‘76; she could very well win.

Big S on January 18, 2008 at 9:28 PM

If you support Fred, there is no way in hell you would want to vote for the Huckster, the slimey Clinton/Carter clone.

katieanne on January 18, 2008 at 9:28 PM

Fred himself said he needs to win first in SC or he’s done! Get with it Fredheads!!

froghat on January 18, 2008 at 8:51 PM

Gee, if Fred dropped out you’d never have another thing to post about here.

Not saying it’s worth it, just looking for the up side…

snickelfritz on January 18, 2008 at 9:28 PM

I know that poll is skewed because it is just hotair but I think it says something about MM that she drew us together.

TheSitRep on January 18, 2008 at 9:28 PM

No, I’m saying Fredheads are crazed because they are not acting rationally. It is irrational to knowingly take an action that will result in the opposite of your desired effect.

How am I wrong?

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

You just said that voting for a candidate was irrational. You also just said that you know exactly what will happen tomorrow and in the future. You do not know that. What you are saying is that for us to not vote based on your guess as to what will happen is irrational. You apparently consider yourself either psychic, or never wrong.

You’re wrong in claiming you know what will happen. You’re wrong in claiming it irrational to ignore your conjecture. You’re wrong in claiming it irrational to vote for a candidate. You’re wrong in thinking you are either psychic or never wrong.

You’re wrong on every count.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:28 PM

Reagan’s opponent was Walter “I’ma raise your taxes guarenteed!” Mondale. Reagan was inspiring and all, but lets face it, Mondale shot himself in the foot.

In the previous election his predecessor was Jimmy Carter, home of malaise mayonaisse, stagflation steak, and killer rabits. Reagan did win big, but both of his opponents sucked.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:24 PM

Ooooh I get it, so it was a fluke. Reagan got lucky, backed in IN SPITE of his message. Now listen, I appreciate differing of opinions, but some of things you have said arent just about Fred. They attack those of us as not “getting it”. When in fact we very much do get it and have chosen our guy. My apologiez for saying Rudy is your guy when in fact when I read further it was Mitt. And if you think the only thing they have against him is the pet carrier your in denial.

broker1 on January 18, 2008 at 9:29 PM

If I was to vote this again is my list of who Id prefer

1) Fred
2) Hunter
3) Guiliani
4) McCain
5) Romney
6) Huckabee

Ron Paul is not a republican.

William Amos on January 18, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Absolutely….Without a doubt…No way in Heaven or on Earth.

tickleddragon on January 18, 2008 at 9:30 PM

So does Hillary. Don’t let fear cloud your judgment.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Too bad Fred has to beat Juan Mickey, Huckleberry, Romney, Guiliani, and even Stormfront before he even starts talking about that.

Currently his record is being beaten soundly by all of them in every state except Iowa and Wyoming.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Will Allah still post Fred threads after he drops out? I’m just askin’, since it might feel kinda strange around here without all of the Fred love. I figure the eventual endorsement of McCain is worth a thread or two, but what then? Where will all the ‘Heads get their kicks?

Big S on January 18, 2008 at 9:31 PM

If everyone had voted for the candidate they actually liked instead of someone strategic, Fred might have actually won.

It’s too bad, really. Fred was the last great hope. I think I’ll drown my sorrows in yet another glass of cabernet… it’s Friday, after all….

pullingmyhairout on January 18, 2008 at 9:31 PM

I have a strong feeling there will be a lot of crow served tomorrow night.

GO FRED!

azcop on January 18, 2008 at 9:31 PM

Fred never says he needs to win just that he need to have a good showing

I agree that Thompson doesn’t need to win the state to “win” the expectations game, but the fact that he moved his entire campaign staff to that state is rather telling.

If he comes in first, the benefits are obvious. Second? Also a good showing. But if he gets beat by Romney, his campaign takes a major hit.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:32 PM

Currently his record is being beaten soundly by all of them in every state except Iowa and Wyoming.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:30 PM

Fourth in delegates, behind the big three(Giuliani seems to be running the kind of campaign you give Fred so much crap for). He’s being beaten, but not soundly.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM

No, I’m saying Fredheads are crazed because they are not acting rationally. It is irrational to knowingly take an action that will result in the opposite of your desired effect.

How am I wrong?

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Youre wrong like this, if Fred doesnt win. I want a Democrat to take credit for the same disastrous policies that the rest of this Republican would install.

Hence my actions will ensure the same result.

broker1 on January 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM

I hope you’re right AZCOP. I’m hoping for a Fred celebration too!

countywolf on January 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM

katieanne on January 18, 2008 at 9:28 PM

You’re right. I’ll never vote for the huckster. I guess it’s Romney for me. Gag.

pullingmyhairout on January 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:32 PM

I understand….other than Paul and Hunter none of them should drop out until after Super Tuesday…..There is just too much that can happen.

azcop on January 18, 2008 at 9:34 PM

Why did you post this AP? Seriously, why? You really did what you said… stir up a beehive. If it turns out the way you expect, you can stir the hive forevermore, but I see no purpose for writing this on the eve of a major primary other than mean-spiritedness.

This is one FredHead that would drink POISON before I would vote for Huckabee.

Thanks alot AP. You’ve thoroughly ticked me off.

Oink on January 18, 2008 at 9:35 PM

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:32 PM

Do you really, truly, from the bottom of your heart, believe that Fred has a smidgeon of a chance of actually winning in South Carolina?

pullingmyhairout on January 18, 2008 at 9:35 PM

I understand….other than Paul and Hunter none of them should drop out until after Super Tuesday

Well, I wouldn’t mind seeing Huckabee take a bow.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:35 PM

I cannot wait until Fred drops out and endorses McCain. CANNOT WAIT.

SnarkVader on January 18, 2008 at 9:35 PM

Ooooh I get it, so it was a fluke. Reagan got lucky, backed in IN SPITE of his message. Now listen, I appreciate differing of opinions, but some of things you have said arent just about Fred. They attack those of us as not “getting it”. When in fact we very much do get it and have chosen our guy. My apologiez for saying Rudy is your guy when in fact when I read further it was Mitt. And if you think the only thing they have against him is the pet carrier your in denial.

broker1 on January 18, 2008 at 9:29 PM

My blog said that the Republican Party unites social cons, fiscal cons, and libertarians to win elections, and Reagan (and indeed anyone) needed all 3 to stand a chance of winning. There is absolutely zero wrong, factually speaking, with that statement. What I am saying is that Reagan did know how to unite the coalition, but the only reason he carried over 40 states was that his opponents were also idiots.

The only thing Thompson has in common with Reagan is his opponent in Tennessee was an idiot. Otherwise he has zero executive experience, no understanding of “the other side,” as it were, absolutely zero managerial ability, and nothing but a load of policy papers he has never, ever, ever even tried to implement for 8 years of dust collecting he did in the Senate.

Fred is a do-nothing, feel good, warm weather conservative. When times get tough, he might not defect, but he does shut down, fall asleep, and do nothing.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM

No, I’m saying Fredheads are crazed because they are not acting rationally. It is irrational to knowingly take an action that will result in the opposite of your desired effect.

How am I wrong?

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Voting is like raising kids. You basically reward a candidates behavior by voting for them.

I never waver when it comes to disciplining my young’uns
and I swear to you on this day that I will not waver or flinch in this battle for the soul of our great nation.
Voting for a skunk like Huck or McCain just to win in the short term is like giving in to a child’s demands just so you don’t have to whoop his ass in public.

I whoop that ass!

TheSitRep on January 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Do you really, truly, from the bottom of your heart, believe that Fred has a smidgeon of a chance of actually winning in South Carolina?

Unfortunately, at this point, no.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:16 PM

from living in the south for the last 12 years that is exactly what I am saying. I have seen people leave work before it starts to snow. Last year Raliegh NC got 1/2inch of snow it caused almost 3000 accidents, Students where on buses for 12 hours coming home form school. a northerner does not understand what happens to the South when it snows. I would never have imagined the reaction to a couple snow flurry and the weatherman ids calling for 2-4INCHES. This would be like a 2 foot snow in PA or NY>

think about that.

unseen on January 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Fred will not drop out no matter what. Those who spread rumors that he will endorse McCain don’t wish Fred well.

Igor R. on January 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM

I’ve always said I hope Fred can last till ’super tuesday’. ‘It ain’t over till ’super tuesday’ is over’.

countywolf on January 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM

Well, I wouldn’t mind seeing Huckabee take a bow.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:35 PM

You and me both. And the rumor is he has money issues.

azcop on January 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM

I would never have imagined the reaction to a couple snow flurry and the weatherman ids calling for 2-4INCHES.

2-4 inches is a flurry. :-)

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM

Do you really, truly, from the bottom of your heart, believe that Fred has a smidgeon of a chance of actually winning in South Carolina?

Unfortunately, at this point, no.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM

And Obama had no chance to win NH? And Romney had no chance to win MI? As Fred says, doesn’t take a real genius to read the polls.

Igor R. on January 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM

AP, try again and this time ask a serious question.

Why on earth would a Fred! supporter even contemplate voting for Huckascam. The guy is a trainwreck waiting to happen to our nation.

SimplyKimberly on January 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM

We have bad weather coming in the morning–more snow and ice and there are some big curves and hills between me and the polling place.
USBB on January 18, 2008 at 8:54 PM

This is going to be bad for McCain, who attracts older veteran voters, and, it’s going to be bad for HuckabeetleJuice© who attracts weenies and tweenies, but great for Mitt same as it was in Michigan.

Mcguyver on January 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Unfortunately, at this point, no.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM

What are your thoughts then about a brokered convention? could he pull it out then?

I feel he is our only hope. I’m not a rabid Fredhead, but compared to the other fellas, he’s heads and shoulders above the rest.

pullingmyhairout on January 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Should Fred’s supporters abandon him tomorrow for … Huckabee?

NO!

someguy on January 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Anybody catch the video of Huck complaining about the oh-so-serious unemployment problem?

Laura on January 18, 2008 at 9:26 PM

Oh, by the way Laura, Colmes pulled him back from the diversion pretty quickly (because he was trying to pin him down and make him comment on the confederate flag), so he didn’t really get to go anywhere with it.. but it was just retarded that his first reaction was to say that it’s a non-issue because we have a “serious unemployment problem” in this country. WTF?! Again, what a retard.

RightWinged on January 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM

You and me both. And the rumor is he has money issues.

azcop on January 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM

Maybe he can borrow some from Ron Paul. heh.

pullingmyhairout on January 18, 2008 at 9:39 PM

AP, try again and this time ask a serious question.

Why on earth would a Fred! supporter even contemplate voting for Huckascam. The guy is a trainwreck waiting to happen to our nation.

SimplyKimberly on January 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Only a total idiot or a purposefully malicious person would suggest that Fred’s supporters could vote for the Slime from Hope.

Igor R. on January 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM

What are your thoughts then about a brokered convention? could he pull it out then?

Depends on the delegate count at that point. If he can maintain some level of support and rack up delegates, he could be considered for the ticket at a brokered convention.

At this point, though, I don’t think SC is going to do anything but further muddy the waters. Super Tuesday will determine the front-runner, I think.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Fourth in delegates, behind the big three(Giuliani seems to be running the kind of campaign you give Fred so much crap for). He’s being beaten, but not soundly.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Guiliani still has cash on hand, and I think his strategy is garbage too, but Rudians don’t spam every Fred with RUDY IS THE CLEAR CONSERVATIVE CHOICE! NO MORE RINOS! RUDY CAN DO NO WRONG! EVERYONE WHO ISN’T BEHIND RUDY ISN’T A REAL CONSERVATIVE! ONLY PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT RUDY ARE CONSERVATIVES, EVERYONE ELSE IS A HERETIC RINO WHO DOESN’T MATTER! RUDY’S FAILURES ARE ALL THE MSM’S FAULT! GO RUDY 08, ITS AN F’ING RUDILANCHE!

Maybe if the Fredheads weren’t such insufferable little elitists they wouldn’t be ridiculed so much.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM

At least a brokered convention would really draw a line in the sand between RINOS and Conservatives.

azcop on January 18, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Maybe if the Fredheads weren’t such insufferable little elitists they wouldn’t be ridiculed so much.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM

My sentiments exactly.

Big S on January 18, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Maybe if the Fredheads weren’t such insufferable little elitists they wouldn’t be ridiculed so much.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Believing in principle is elitist now?

Igor R. on January 18, 2008 at 9:42 PM

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM

How I wish this was just over and we can go back to dissecting Britney Spears and the gals from the View…

pullingmyhairout on January 18, 2008 at 9:42 PM

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM

I actually like Rudy but to describe him as more conservative then Fred requires the “Willing suspension of disbelief”

azcop on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Maybe if the Fredheads weren’t such insufferable little elitists they wouldn’t be ridiculed so much.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM

That’s freaking rich coming from the guy who referred to “hicks” south of the Mason-Dixon line, you little hypocrite.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Youre wrong like this, if Fred doesnt win. I want a Democrat to take credit for the same disastrous policies that the rest of this Republican would install.

broker1 on January 18, 2008 at 9:33 PM

Yeah…that is kind of what concerns me.

You actually think anyone slightly to left of Fred will be ruinious and cause blame to be heaped on the Republican party.

Doesn’t that…you know…sound a little extreme?

I’m the first to say McCain will be a disaster for Republicans, and Huckabee is basically a Democrat, but you’re saying even Romney and Giuliani are disasters for America in-waiting.

Please, Fredheads, take a deep breath and don’t get yourself whipped into a frenzy of irrationality.

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Well, I’m in OH, not SC, but I say screw it. Frankly until it comes down to the nomination and either Romney or Giuliani gets it, I’m either voting Fred or staying home. Period F’in dot.

BranBresil on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

How I wish this was just over and we can go back to dissecting Britney Spears and the gals from the View…

BITE YOUR TONGUE.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Romney and Giuliani are disasters for America in-waiting.

Please, Fredheads, take a deep breath and don’t get yourself whipped into a frenzy of irrationality.

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Giuliani is a disaster because he has never came out against Amnesty.

Igor R. on January 18, 2008 at 9:44 PM

think about that.

unseen on January 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM

I was razzing you a little bit with the “turn chicken.”

Here in the north we were quite happy with the 60 degree day we had a week and a half ago. That was followed by a snowstorm, and today we had a small amount of rain. The last few days it started below 20 degrees.

In other words, crap weather is pretty much part of everyday life in New England. In the south they don’t know how to handle ice on the roads because it doesn’t happen very often. They miscalculate their ability to stop and accidents happen.

Ironically, Massachusetts drivers are voted almost unanimously the worst drivers in the country, LOL.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:44 PM

My blog said that the Republican Party unites social cons, fiscal cons, and libertarians to win elections, and Reagan (and indeed anyone) needed all 3 to stand a chance of winning. There is absolutely zero wrong, factually speaking, with that statement.

Bkennedy

First saying “and anyone” is an insult. Second he didnt unite them by pandering to their policy issues. It was all 3 legs of the conservative movement in a message of hope and rugged individualism. PERIOD.

Third there are no “facts” in your argument. Just hyperbole and personal opinion in your argument.

And yet again you end your commentary with more insult, its really not endearing to people taking your arguments seriously.

Especially when your point of view comes from calling your candidate “The MoRmInAtOr”. Is there an Arnold endorsement coming soon?

broker1 on January 18, 2008 at 9:45 PM

My sentiments exactly.

Big S on January 18, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Yeah, standing up for strict principles is really elitist. We should be less elitist and vote for Romney. Even less elitist and vote Giuliani. Far less elitist and vote McCain. Hell with it, let’s go all the way, be good ol’ boys and vote for Huckabee.

You and BKennedy share a despicable outlook, where you feel hostility towards those willing to take a stand that you don’t have the guts to touch.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:45 PM

I’m the first to say McCain will be a disaster for Republicans, and Huckabee is basically a Democrat, but you’re saying even Romney and Giuliani are disasters for America in-waiting.

Please, Fredheads, take a deep breath and don’t get yourself whipped into a frenzy of irrationality.

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

I am a Fredhead but will go to the polls and support Rudy and/or Mitt. They are not all that bad.

azcop on January 18, 2008 at 9:45 PM

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Amen!

EnochCain on January 18, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Somewhat off topic…well not really I suppose. Today on Fox News, Neil Cavuto was talking with someone (I’m almost positive it was Tom Delay – I was in the other room) and Delay was talking about how McCain is destroying the Republican party – how he has spent his entire political career working with Democrats to essentially sabotage Republican agendas in congress. Considering how everyone has more or less been giving Mac the pass on really examining him it was interesting. I’m starting to really think that the news has an agenda to keep the as many candidates aboard as possible in order to keep ratings up. As soon as Mac is getting a lead they tear into him some and start giving Fred a bunch of positive coverage. Its like they’ve got an intended script of the elections or something, and they’re making air-time decisions based on it. Maybe its the wine talking…but as far as conspiracy theories go I’d say its a legitimate one.

blankminde on January 18, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Amzing how everybody thinks are so clear based on less than 5% of the delegates and 3 winners in 4 contests. Folks: NOTHING is going to be clear until Feb 6th and maybe not even then.

michaelo on January 18, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Denial. It just ain’t a river.

csdeven on January 18, 2008 at 9:45 PM

Hey, at least Fred actually has a couple of delegates (from WY). That’s more than Hunter, Paul, and Giuliani can say. I think they should drop out first.

aero on January 18, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Please, Fredheads, take a deep breath and don’t get yourself whipped into a frenzy of irrationality.

Nessuno on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Disagreeing with your guesses about what will happen in this election is not irrational.

Believing that it is, is irrational.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Ironically, Massachusetts drivers are voted almost unanimously the worst drivers in the country, LOL.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Massachusetts drivers aren’t very good swimmers either.

Igor R. on January 18, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Maybe if the Fredheads weren’t such insufferable little elitists they wouldn’t be ridiculed so much.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:40 PM

“Insufferable little elitists”…Where the H-E-double hockey sticks did that come from? Why is it the FredHead bashers think of Thompson supporters as all this kind of crud?

Where does it come from?

JetBoy on January 18, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Ironically, Massachusetts drivers are voted almost unanimously the worst drivers in the country, LOL.

And with good reason.

Seriously, though, the snow may be good for Thompson. Bad weather tends to bring out only the most committed, and as we’ve seen, Thompson supporters are certainly committed.

Slublog on January 18, 2008 at 9:47 PM

That’s freaking rich coming from the guy who referred to “hicks” south of the Mason-Dixon line, you little hypocrite.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Hey, not my fault Fred said he’d rather be with South Carolinans that up in New Hampshire. Apparently that also applied in Michigan, Delaware, and Iowa. It’s not my fault that Fred is willing to denigrate one part of America to win favor with another. Fred’s a hick, plain and simple.

BKennedy on January 18, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Believing in principle is elitist now?

Igor R. on January 18, 2008 at 9:42 PM

No, but believing that your principles are the only valid ones is elitist. Got it?

I actually like Rudy but to describe him as more conservative then Fred requires the “Willing suspension of disbelief”

azcop on January 18, 2008 at 9:43 PM

Some of us Republicans don’t want the most conservative candidate to be nominated. Hence the support for Giuliani and McCain. It’s not like we’re a bunch of idiots who are fooled by their rhetoric.

Big S on January 18, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Rasmussen just said on Hannity and Colmes that 41% of republican voters could change their mind tomorrow!
Mitt supporters should vote for Fred.

GO FRED!!

flbill on January 18, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Yuck.

Tzetzes on January 18, 2008 at 9:47 PM

JetBoy on January 18, 2008 at 9:46 PM

Contempt of those who have the guts to not be swayed by nice hair.

MadisonConservative on January 18, 2008 at 9:47 PM

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